Well, that's it. Have a nice night everyone.
if you think Paul Ryan won that debate, you're a fucking idiot
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update: the Vice President Joe Biden owned. I guess y'all didn't watch the debate.
I did watch the debate, and I agree with everything you just said.
I love listening to the GoP:
Obama vs Romney Debate: Obama just stood there with his head down and didn't bother attacking, he lost this debate! He could have at least put up a fight!
Biden vs Ryan Debate: All Biden did was attack Ryan. How rude and inconsiderate. What a condescending jerk! Ryan wins because he was a nice guy.
Obama vs Romney Debate: Obama just stood there with his head down and didn't bother attacking, he lost this debate! He could have at least put up a fight!
Biden vs Ryan Debate: All Biden did was attack Ryan. How rude and inconsiderate. What a condescending jerk! Ryan wins because he was a nice guy.
GasBandit
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It's cute how desperate the sycophants are to fellate their messiah, even by proxy.
Hey now, VP's have a very important job, going to state funerals of second rate world leaders. Bush was probably the best at it...
GasBandit
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I just got through a week of hearing how the presidential debates don't mean or change anything, and now the vice presidential debate I'm supposed to pay attention to? Sheesh.
I miss Dan Quayle jokes. Those were fun.
The VP debate was entertaining because it was Uncle Joe treating Paul Ryan like the little asshole he is.
GasBandit
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But hey, partisan bickering is what's killing the country, right?
Necronic
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After the first debate I kind of wrote the debates off since I was blown away to the point of being disgusted to see how much Romney was able to improve his polling by lying and blatantly changing his platform. I'm watching this one now and I kind of feel bad for Ryan. He didn't have much chance against Biden. Was like walking into a buzzsaw.
I thought the whole thing was entertaining, but a VP debate really wouldn't affect my decision on who to vote for. Debates in general don't.
GasBandit
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... which is sort of the definition of partisan bickering, isn't it? Just with "... because you're an asshole" added on to your quote.
Why... why did I read the comments?
Because the lower the stakes the more honest people tend to be...
Still less crazy then carving a mirrored B into their faces.
Everyone knows Bush was the dumbest evil mastermind ever!
GasBandit
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Charlie says independents are fucking idiots.
The ones polled in that poll definitely are.
And I think people that identify with their politics by party affiliation are confused that this is a football game.
GasBandit
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Much as I don't like it, the fact of the matter is American politics is driven by the party system. While there are certainly lots of people who don't perfectly fit into any party, you still end up having to back one, and over time a pattern evolves. If you're over 25 and still consider yourself unaffiliated with any party, you're either wishy washy, have impossible compatibility standards, or are fooling yourself.
I am willing to be won over by either party, which is the only way to partake in the party system. The instant I identify with a party, then I award my vote without any consideration of the candidates or their ideas. The democrats typically get my vote, but I agree with Republicans (and Libertarians) on many issues too. I can know my voting history but without throwing my lot in wholesale. Any voter should be willing to vote across party lines.
I would have called myself a blind democrat in 2008. I voted for Obama with minimal knowledge of the system.
Since then I've really expanded my political spectrum. I listen/watch information from all sides. I would very much be willing to vote for a fantastic third party if they had any strength in the system, which sadly they don't. So what I'm left with is judging the two candidates that there are to choose from and seeing which one's policies affect me the most. If Romney had come out and been -for- instead of -against- most of the things that affect my life, I'd have honestly been leaning his way. Sadly he's actually against the things in my life and my family's life so he's just not my choice on those reasons. I'm glad to say it's not because -I AM A DEMOCRAT!! RARGABABLALA!- but because I've been informed, in detail by both sides in multiple different wants on the finer details of the candidates.
Since then I've really expanded my political spectrum. I listen/watch information from all sides. I would very much be willing to vote for a fantastic third party if they had any strength in the system, which sadly they don't. So what I'm left with is judging the two candidates that there are to choose from and seeing which one's policies affect me the most. If Romney had come out and been -for- instead of -against- most of the things that affect my life, I'd have honestly been leaning his way. Sadly he's actually against the things in my life and my family's life so he's just not my choice on those reasons. I'm glad to say it's not because -I AM A DEMOCRAT!! RARGABABLALA!- but because I've been informed, in detail by both sides in multiple different wants on the finer details of the candidates.
"Third parties have no influence on the system so I have to vote Republican or Democrat" - independents, lol
You could you know, don't vote! I'm not saying stay at home November 2nd. I'm saying show up, and not check any name. You throw away your vote when you select a R or D you're not a fan of for any reason, party affiliation or no party affiliation.
You could you know, don't vote! I'm not saying stay at home November 2nd. I'm saying show up, and not check any name. You throw away your vote when you select a R or D you're not a fan of for any reason, party affiliation or no party affiliation.
I don't know if you have this in the USA, but in Canada you can officially "decline" your ballot. You go up to the booth, get your ticket that you're supposed to mark which one you want, and then return it to them un-marked and tell them that you wish to officially decline it, and it is recorded that way. That is different than "spoiled" ballots which some do to express a similar sentiment, but this way you are really saying "nothing there is worth voting for" and/or "I think this system is invalid/corrupt/etc" without looking possibly like an idiot, because most of the "spoiled" ballots is of people just not following instructions, not an actual "protest" vote. It's never added up to anything significant, but it is officially recorded, rather than just not showing up, which could mean anything.
I've said before that if you don't vote, don't complain, but I would accept somebody complaining if they said they officially declined their ballot, rather than saying "oh I just didn't vote." If they go through the effort to decline it, I know they're not just being a lazy ass.
Nobody said that. I specifically mentioned a third party that I sometimes agree with. This is about throwing your hat in completely with a party versus 1.) voting for multiple parties come election day and 2.) choosing a candidate that I do like, no matter the party affiliation.
nice weekly standard link, lmao
GasBandit
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If you liked that, you're gonna love its latest magazine cover.
But yeah, shame on me for not remembering pew polls are only accurate when the liberal press decides to acknowledge them.
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