Well...I have my reason not to sleep now.
13 real life kids straight out of horror movies.
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Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.
On the one hand, we have that 12 year old girl who wrote that they're legends, or even immortal, now. So maybe we should forget them.
On the other hand, it's not a bad idea to remember that this world is not all candies and roses, and that people do bad things to each other, often for no good reason. Even kids.
Ten years ago, a group of 14 kids in Milwaukee beat a neighborhood man to death.
A little summary:
On September 29, 2002 a group of approximately fourteen teenagers hunted down and beat a Milwaukee man to death. The man, Charlie Young, Jr., had apparently knocked out the tooth of one of the teenagers earlier in the day. At one point Young had barricaded himself inside a home while the gang began tearing at the door and windows. The homeowner force Young out of the home and into the clutches of the gang.
The case was disturbing in that it clearly illustrated the vicious mentality of a new generation of street gangs. Most of the children involved in the beating came from dysfunctional homes. "Trash and shattered glass litter streets pocked with boarded-up houses," the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel wrote in an Oct. 2, 2002 article. "It is a battle zone where almost everyone you talk to needs more than one hand to count the murdered relatives and friends -- and blames police and society."
The incident was the first in a string of similar incidents. In one later incident a group of boys threw a man in from of a bus severely injuring him.
I had to deal with a handful of the kids who were involved in that beating. None of it fazes me. I have a copy of the associated article from the MJS to that incident ("Crime Gangs and Broken Homes play large part in boys' lives", if you want to Google it). AFAIK, the youth are still in the DOC, though they've probably moved on to Green Bay Correctional by now.
A little summary:
On September 29, 2002 a group of approximately fourteen teenagers hunted down and beat a Milwaukee man to death. The man, Charlie Young, Jr., had apparently knocked out the tooth of one of the teenagers earlier in the day. At one point Young had barricaded himself inside a home while the gang began tearing at the door and windows. The homeowner force Young out of the home and into the clutches of the gang.
The case was disturbing in that it clearly illustrated the vicious mentality of a new generation of street gangs. Most of the children involved in the beating came from dysfunctional homes. "Trash and shattered glass litter streets pocked with boarded-up houses," the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel wrote in an Oct. 2, 2002 article. "It is a battle zone where almost everyone you talk to needs more than one hand to count the murdered relatives and friends -- and blames police and society."
The incident was the first in a string of similar incidents. In one later incident a group of boys threw a man in from of a bus severely injuring him.
I had to deal with a handful of the kids who were involved in that beating. None of it fazes me. I have a copy of the associated article from the MJS to that incident ("Crime Gangs and Broken Homes play large part in boys' lives", if you want to Google it). AFAIK, the youth are still in the DOC, though they've probably moved on to Green Bay Correctional by now.
Yeah, we had a similar circumstance here in Seattle a few years back. Group of teens beat the hell out of a man, apparently just for the hell of it, and then robbed him. He died nine days later from injuries suffered during the beating. Threw the kids in juvie until they hit 18, and now they're back on the streets and (at least one of them) re-offending. And while it's not an everyday occurrence, the stories of gangs of kids (by which I mean groups, not recognized gangs like M13 or the Crips) singling someone out and beating the hell out of them because they're bored, or they didn't like the way the person looked at them or whatever, are far from rare.
My sister has volumes upon volumes of Serial Killer information on her bookshelves and Nook. Needless to say she shares her wealth of information with anyone who will listen, and even those who don't want to. I bring this up because of the topic of Albert Fish that was mentioned earlier. He's easily one of her favorites as she would often say -He was lucky to live in a time he could get away with the things he did-
I love my sister, I do, but as a father with children of my own (though I know she'd never harm a hair on their head) I fear for their safety, knowing there really are people like him and her out there and am very thankful that many are shyed away from actually acting on those impulses because of the level of technology and law we have in our world today. Many of the -high kill count- serial killers lived in times where they could continue to get away with heinous acts because there just wasn't enough information and technology in place to help stop them sooner.
It's rare that outside of 3rd world countries, a long line of serial killings will happen anymore and that does give me a breath of relief.
I love my sister, I do, but as a father with children of my own (though I know she'd never harm a hair on their head) I fear for their safety, knowing there really are people like him and her out there and am very thankful that many are shyed away from actually acting on those impulses because of the level of technology and law we have in our world today. Many of the -high kill count- serial killers lived in times where they could continue to get away with heinous acts because there just wasn't enough information and technology in place to help stop them sooner.
It's rare that outside of 3rd world countries, a long line of serial killings will happen anymore and that does give me a breath of relief.
He was against Bin Laden and Saddam's death penalty so I'm pretty sure he'd be against Albert Fish. I think his stance is -Zero Kill Tolerance-
Because he's a moral coward, his precious ideals matter more to him than actual people do.
I think you can be against the death penalty without being a moral coward. The problem with executing serial killers is that it sets a precedent for, you know, executing people. For every case that you know "100% guilt" there are hundreds of similar cases you don't.
GasBandit
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Where you work? Shit, I can't even remember who you are.
Don't take it personal though.
You've told me what I already know, and it's not the reason I called him a moral coward in the first place. I believe he is one because he espouses morals and ideals that are incompatible with human nature and were they put into practice wouldn't benefit anyone but him. He only states his lofty morals because he wants attention and praise for having them.
Yeah... there is no way in HELL I would ever work Juvenile corrections... being censured for protecting one's self from physical violence or threats? And you can't EVER strike Momma's little darling? Fuck that noise... at least I can still enforce the law, outside the walls of RYDC...
You, sir, are a better man than I.
You, sir, are a better man than I.
GasBandit
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Now if you want me to remember that, you can't ever change your avatar again.
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