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  1. tegid

    Official Goblins (comic) Thread

    It's up now
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    Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

    My first thought when I read 'climbed into bed with murderous tyrants' was: how is this news for the US*?! Wikipedia lists 5 active embargoes by the US, and I'd wager that there are governments in the world that are more tyrannical and murderous than Cuba and are not embargoed (ahem, China?!)...
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    [News] The USA Police State will never satisfy its lust for beating, gassing, and imprisoning minorities

    This is on topic because the phone may or may not have its batteries in the single digits. Also the words 'police state' are involved. So super on topic! Opinions?
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    President Barack Obama: We tortured some folks

    It's an interesting point though. People answer with 'hey, why are you not complaining equally about other people who do bad shit'? and I understand it's because they feel attacked, be it directly themselves or through people they admire and love or through their values. This is not due to this...
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    [News] The USA Police State will never satisfy its lust for beating, gassing, and imprisoning minorities

    It's funny how I see an example of the use of the word 10 minutes after discovering it in the other thread thanks to Charlie (!)
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    Star Wars Ep. VII has a name...

    We discussed that as a cool possibility with some friends yesterday. My opinion was that it's too soon: If Leia, Luke et al are still alive, it's anticlimatic to have their legacy turned around already. That would be for a later generation still, I think.
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    Roko's Basilisk

    Sorry, I wasn't clear. It doesn't have power over us right now, it will never have power over the present us. In the hypothetical future in which a super powerful AI comes to be, it can take us and torture us. At that point in time! Obviously it can't torture us in the present, or we would be...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    It doesn't, right now. If it ever came to be then it would, and would punish us accordingly because we know that's a possibility and are choosing wrongly anyway. It's retroactive blackmail. That's why I say not playing its game is a good answer. I'm saying right now that wether it tortures me in...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    No, I meant it in the sense that the logic of the theoretical AI can be as alien as you want. So it may not care about how soon it is created and only worry about its goals going into the future, or it may care about people so it doesn't want to torture me, or it may care so much about some...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    But the reasoning behind not helping is important. 'I refuse to play your game' means that the supposed future torture will be useless. It's like 'we don't negotiate with terrorists', if you refuse to play the game the resources they put into it are lost and therefore they won't play either.In...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    There is some of that here. I haven't read all of it but for instance he says:
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    Roko's Basilisk

    This was what confused me. The AI doesn't need to model itself, only the ways in which it affects the universe. Also, I thought they said that on the article but the problem with imperfections in the simulations is solved by doing many of them and taking the collective result...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    Well, the quantum randomness is a good reason to have many simulations running in parallel to have a good sampling of everything that could happen. But the simulation doesn't need to have many levels because it is not simulating the AI, it's simulating you: in the Newcomb problem, it only...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    Okay if I leave this for tomorrow I will probably not post it so here it is: I think Slate's account of what Roko's basilisk is isn't correct. Although I was already familiar with the idea, I had never read about it including infinite nested simulations (btw Necronic, I don't think it does in...
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    Roko's Basilisk

    I have other thinks to answer when I'm not tipsy from a couple beers on top of being exhausted but: It is not obvious that an AI would be affected by quantum uncertainty in its decisions. The macroscopic world behaves mostly independent of quantum uncertainty. Computers do not do weird things...
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    Space stuff (NASA, UKSA, CSA, ESA, etc)

    He's not simply wrong, he's either using a system of physics entirely different from that of the rest of the world, has some secret info about comets, or is high.
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    Everyday sexual harassment of women

    I don't see that... The problem would be to not see the sexism in an image, not not noticing the image itself
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    Space stuff (NASA, UKSA, CSA, ESA, etc)

    Okay, yeah, those count. The 8th then...
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    [News] Our childish insistence on calling soldiers heroes deadens real democracy

    I can't help but ask... What is a hero? Is a hero defined by what he goes through, or is he defined by the cause for which he fights (plus the deeds he does in tha fight)? Perhaps there are different kind of heroes. I am by no means discounting the heroicity of anyone here, in particular not...
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