[News] The USA Police State will never satisfy its lust for beating, gassing, and imprisoning minorities

GasBandit

GasBandit

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I've lost count of how many times I've said I can't fathom why anybody actually lives in NYC if they have a choice. Not 3 months ever goes by without me hearing of the NYPD doing something that should be career ending for the officers involved and everybody above them in the chain of command.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Not one single person has said that the system wasn't broken. Even OC has admitted that there are serious problems that need to be addressed. There's a huge difference between calling for change in the system and blanket calling ALL police officers and officials corrupt and evil.

I'd be curious to know what you would think of black police officers. The concept would probably make your head explode.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Bowielee said:
Not one single person has said that the system wasn't broken. Even OC has admitted that there are serious problems that need to be addressed. There's a huge difference between calling for change in the system and blanket calling ALL police officers and officials corrupt and evil.

I'd be curious to know what you would think of black police officers. The concept would probably make your head explode.
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Like. The racial part is only a part of this? I'd be howling to indict a gay black transgendered woman police officer if she shot an unarmed Fortune 500 CEO.
 
tegid

tegid

Gruebeard said:
To me, the very first guy, the one who said his job was to kick ass, should be hounded out of the job. And quickly
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It's funny how I see an example of the use of the word 10 minutes after discovering it in the other thread thanks to Charlie (!)
 
Necronic

Necronic

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I'm seriously confused by that verdict. This whole thing seems like its straight out of Do The Right Thing.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

stienman said:
I haven't read or seen anything on that case. What policy or procedure did the officer(s) fail to follow that would make them liable for the death?
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From what I understand from when it happened, the choke hold is supposed to be banned by NYPD. I am a bit shocked that this one did not go to trail.

The only thing that I could see as a reason not to charge the officer is that it is inherently dangerous to hand cuff someone who is that obese. Just the pressure on his body from being tackled and cuffing his hands behind is back could cause him to have difficulty breathing.
 
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sixpackshaker said:
From what I understand from when it happened, the choke hold is supposed to be banned by NYPD. I am a bit shocked that this one did not go to trail.

The only thing that I could see as a reason not to charge the officer is that it is inherently dangerous to hand cuff someone who is that obese. Just the pressure on his body from being tackled and cuffing his hands behind is back could cause him to have difficulty breathing.
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Pretty sure the forearm compressing his trachea from behind has more to do with it than being handcuffed.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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The coroner said it was homicide, and there was video of it happening. Like Jon Stewart referenced, how are we supposed to feel better about police wearing cameras if a video of a cop throttling someone to death isn't enough evidence to even bring the cop to trial on charges of throttling someone to death? Not even talking the trial itself, not talking guilty/innocence, just flat out not enough evidence to go to trial?

I wonder how much that particular policeman brought in via civil forfeiture the last few years...
 
ThatGrinningIdiot!

ThatGrinningIdiot!

I'm a bit curious, what would any of you do were you to witness a close friend or family member go through something like Eric Garner did? What does one do to counter this situation effectively?
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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ThatGrinningIdiot! said:
I'm a bit curious, what would any of you do were you to witness a close friend or family member go through something like Eric Garner did? What does one do to counter this situation effectively?
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Do all the big media bits. Do not let it drop, do not be quiet. And I'd be willing to bet big ticket lawyers would claw their way over each other to represent the family for the inevitable civil suit.
 
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stienman said:
The officers intended for him to die? There is a difference between murder and killing. One requires malice aforethought.
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He was saying, "I can't breathe, I can't breathe," and they kept pressure on him until he died. Multiple cops - looked like at last 5, maybe more - holding him down, their body weight pinning him against the concrete, each breath getting weaker, his voice straining, until all went dark.

Yeah, that seems malicious enough to me.
 
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My big question is, does it take 5 uniformed officers and 3 plainclothes officers to hand out a citation for selling cigarettes without a tax stamp? (That's what he was allegedly charged with, though witnesses say he was stopped for breaking up a fight outside his store). That's a lot of backup to have already on hand for what had been a non-violent crime. Well, non-violent until the police decided to kill the dude, anyway.
 
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