Animation is Now Child Porn According to Australian Judge

[Charlie Don't Surf]

I'm thankful that I'm not a pedophile.

Great post. Fantastic job.

 

[SpecialKO]

Probably just wanted to make sure the precedent was set.

Doesn't it also set the precedent that it's not that severe a crime if the punishment is only $2,000?

In Australia, are there sex offender lists?

 

[EsteBeatDown]

...so the judge ruled that it was child pornography because it might-somehow-maybe-could lead to real child pornography?

And the sum total of his debt to society is $2,000?

:?

So, put another way, the Judge really isn't worried about that...

Well....

To sum it up, he did not have actual "real" child pornography on his PC. He had pictures of the Simpson children having sex. The issue was whether or not this could be viewed as actual CP since the characters were fictional. The judge found that it could be, even though it was not of real children, and thus charged him with possesion.

Right, and then from the article:

He ruled that the animated cartoon could "fuel demand for material that does involve the abuse of children," and therefore upheld the conviction for child pornography.

Rather than jail the man, however, he fined him Aus$3,000 (US$2,000).

Clearly the judge is not too worried about this guy going on to real child porn.

Yeah. That is what worries me the most.

 

[Gurpel]

Half-hearted devil's advocate - might not animation and drawings be the least harmful way for paedophiles to... relieve some pressure? Compared to any of the alternatives in that direction, it's a victimless crime, and the difficulties we've had with curing paedophilia implies that it's a predisposition rather than a choice.

Don't get me wrong - child porn = way squicky. Just presenting the counterarguments.

great job you have initiated the internet version on "you know hitler actually did a pretty good job in some ways."

but that aside this is a common misconception. [knowledge from nbc dateline inc] child porn, simulated or not only increases a pedophile's desire for more child porn [/what i said]
I think the trouble is that most people equate this sort of thing with like, a drug dependence. It almost makes sense to compare the compulsions, but when you look as not an addiction the situation gets more complicated.

tldr cartoon porn makes pedos want to scar children.

but yeah anyway hitler really turned that economy around huh?

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

itt Cat proves once again to be the best poster on these forums.

 

[GasBandit]

Probably just wanted to make sure the precedent was set.

Doesn't it also set the precedent that it's not that severe a crime if the punishment is only $2,000?

The important part of the precedent is that it establishes animated (or stillframe, hand drawn) depictions of child porn are criminal. The actual sentence is largely mutable, after that, since it isn't explicitly spelled out (unlike the criminality).

 

[Cat]

Goddamnit Kissinger, go worship some OP.

 

[SeraRelm]

It's like the Electric Company up in here!

Child...................Pornography
Child Pornography!

Animated Child....Pornography
Animated Child Pornography!

Yeah, I think that sums it up.

 

It's like the Electric Company up in here!

Child...................Pornography
Child Pornography!

Animated Child....Pornography
Animated Child Pornography!

Yeah, I think that sums it up.

Cue Peter Griffin who can't keep up...

 

[Selgeron]

Well I won't be able to watch like 90% of anime in australia now. No matter how they're drawn like 99% of anime characters are under 18 and 80% them show their tits at some point.

This is a silly ruling, if a man wants to whack off to naked lisa simpson in the privacy of their own home he should be able to. Who does it hurt? Real child pornography has real consequences. Animated child pornography can't be made illegal simply because it MIGHT cause someone to have urges towards 'real' child pornography. If that was the case violent videogames should be made illegal because it might cause someone to have urges towards 'real' violence.... Oh wait.

Why is it that every crime that has to do with the internet has child pornography fueling it. As a whole western culture is predominated with the evils of child pornography. I'm pretty sure itd be harder for a person to get a job after being *accused* of owning child pornography than of *actually* murdering someone.

and the best part of defending it is that now everyone's going to call me a pedo

 

[SpecialKO]

and the best part of defending it is that now everyone's going to call me a pedo

Dude, you're just a pedo.

 

Aaaand this is where I step in.

Rule #1: No child porn. This includes supporting it, showing it or admitting to it. No warning in this case, but the thread is going locky-locky.

This is going to spiral out of control now. Thanks for playing. Have a nice day.