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Frank

Frank

fade said:
See, everyone keeps saying "story story story", but what got me more than the story was that, well, everything else felt so done, too. I could swear I've seen all those ships before, and exoskeletons that looked just like that, and the unimaginative Na'vi...
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The spaceship designs seem like something we'd actually make off in the future, the shuttles and the actual transport itself. James Cameron was just ripping himself off with the powerloader...I mean, suit-troopers and those helicopter things look like any number of futurecopters from any number of near future sci-fi video games or comics or whatever.

In my opinion anyway.
 
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SeraRelm

World of Warcraft the movie? Yeah, we saw it.
The Nightelves get attacked by the Gnomes who are trying to destroy Teldrassil. A Hunter shows up, gets his first riding mount, trades it in for a flying mount when they go to Nagrand, then eventually gets an epic mount all in his quest to save everyone.
Add a dash of Fern Gully and there you go.

 
Frank

Frank

Worldwide: $1,098,736,685

Holy fucking shit. I don't think anyone saw that coming based on the predominantly negative buzz from everyone I knew based on the trailers.
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Espy said:
Of course it's just my opinion. It was fun and cliche'd but done well.
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I wasn't offended by this movie. I don't think I've ever been offended by any form of entertainment. I just think the only thing that should be lauded is the effects. Everything else was mediocre to me.
 
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JCM

Espy said:
I totally agree with Roger Ebert:
Watching "Avatar," I felt sort of the same as when I saw "Star Wars" in 1977. That was another movie I walked into with uncertain expectations. James Cameron's film has been the subject of relentlessly dubious advance buzz, just as his "Titanic" was. Once again, he has silenced the doubters by simply delivering an extraordinary film. There is still at least one man in Hollywood who knows how to spend $250 million, or was it $300 million, wisely.
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I find it hilarious that people are making the pretentious assertion that one must view this movie as moronic. Go watch Transformers 2 then Avatar and let me know what's moronic. The story isn't brilliant nor original but far from moronic, in my opinion of course. If someone else's is negative of it great but lets avoid the "Ur dumb if you don't think this thing is dumber!" malarky.

Unless it's Transformer 2.
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You had to bring that up, didnt you?
 
Rob King

Rob King

Considering there was 'talk' of two sequels should the movie do well, I'd say it's a sure thing now. I look forward to what the sequels will bring: I hope it will take advantage of those high science fiction concepts that were slipped in there.
 
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Iaculus

Unimportant grammar-pedant note - if you're not bothered about something, it's "I couldn't care less". Saying "I could care less" just means that you care about it to a certain extent.

Thank you, and good night.
 
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LordRavage

I stayed away from this thread until I saw the movie. Saw it last night and it was everything I thought it would be. Visually stunning but a tired, over used plot. The 3D kicked ass.

All I have left to say was the Colonel was the best character in the movie. Hands down.

:D
 
ElJuski

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My favorite part of the movie still is by far when he pulls out a fucking knife on his mech, and started knife fighting with a hillariously oversized knife.
 
strawman

strawman

tegid said:
What?? Do they still use the red/green ones somewhere?
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Imax uses glasses that combine both color lenses and polarized lenses. And they aren't perfect, so you get a lot of bleed over (especially noticable during credits), and if you tilt your head you get a lot more bleed over.

RealD uses polarized only lenses, but instead of linear polarization they use circular polarization, which isn't affected when you tilt your head.

RealD is superior for this, but of course it's patented, and IMAX is already invested in their version. I took the disposable reald glasses and put them in clip on sunglasses so I don't have to wear the headache inducing frames they provide (one size fits no one!).

We saw it in imax tonight (it was awesome!) and I want to see it in reald later to see if there's really as big a difference as I think there is.

Either way, this movie is a major win. I really enjoyed it. It was a simple story, and one might be understandably upset that it's a relatively overdone/trite/etc plot, but I thought it was assembled well, told a "real" story (in the sense that verbal tales, such as brothers grimm, are "human" tales easy to remember because they strike a chord in us) and was presented in a rather spectacular way.

Definitely one to be seen again.

I'm more excited about the announcement of 3D blu-ray, and existing 3D TVs, etc - I suspect Avatar will be one of the 'showcase' films for that consumer push this fall (still expensive, and early adopters only, but they'll be out and available).

But yeah, definitely going to see it again.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

stienman said:
It was a simple story, and one might be understandably upset that it's a relatively overdone/trite/etc plot, but I thought it was assembled well, told a "real" story (in the sense that verbal tales, such as brothers grimm, are "human" tales easy to remember because they strike a chord in us) and was presented in a rather spectacular way.
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There are only like 10 stories that can be told overall anyway, the problem was that it was told in a rather trite way... no one complained about any of those operas that where just copied from some myth cycle, or Shakespeare doing the old star-crossed lovers etc.

Cliches are only cliches when no one does anything new/interesting with them.
 
ElJuski

ElJuski

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Yeahhhh the story is really plain and bad, honestly. Which is why there's so much hate for it--beyond people going against the grain of expectations, which is, I admit, a camp I am strongly in. But really, no, the story sucks. And to anyone that disagrees I can compile a list of movies / books / etc. which deals with essentially the same thing, but in a more novel, interesting, intellectually expanding manner.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

I wouldn't say bad because i've seen some way more horrible stuff... it just feels like they where simply going through a checklist instead of actually trying to tell a story.
 
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Iaculus

ElJuski said:
My favorite part of the movie still is by far when he pulls out a fucking knife on his mech, and started knife fighting with a hillariously oversized knife.
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You mean apart from the impromptu combat-drop from an exploding gunship?
 
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LordRavage

Iaculus;326134][QUOTE=ElJuski said:
My favorite part of the movie still is by far when he pulls out a fucking knife on his mech, and started knife fighting with a hillariously oversized knife.
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You mean apart from the impromptu combat-drop from an exploding gunship?[/QUOTE]

The Colonel was on freaking fire! I laughed at how awesome that was. Plus the fact the mech had a dagger was awesome. Reminded me of Full Metal Panic.
 
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Alex B.

LordRavage;326257][QUOTE=Iaculus;326134][QUOTE=ElJuski said:
My favorite part of the movie still is by far when he pulls out a fucking knife on his mech, and started knife fighting with a hillariously oversized knife.
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You mean apart from the impromptu combat-drop from an exploding gunship?[/QUOTE]

The Colonel was on freaking fire! I laughed at how awesome that was. Plus the fact the mech had a dagger was awesome. Reminded me of Full Metal Panic.[/QUOTE]

heh, I loved that. My nephew kept saying, "That's so lucky! That guy's lucky!" and I had to reply, "No, that's not luck, he's just a total badass!"
 
evilmike

evilmike

stienman said:
RealD uses polarized only lenses, but instead of linear polarization they use circular polarization, which isn't affected when you tilt your head.
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Interesting. I guess they use the opposite rotations to separate right-left information? Do the glasses convert the polarization to linear and then cross-filter it, or is there a more direct kind of filtration?
 
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Iaculus

I think 'mecha' came first, actually. Robotech (that frankensteined Macross show), which introduced the word 'mecha' to Western audiences, came out slightly before Battletech (the unrelated tabletop wargame), which introduced the word 'mech', IIRC.

Good rule of thumb is that 'mecha' refers to a particular sort of show featuring humongous war robots (mostly because those sorts of shows tend to come from Japan, so it only seems fair to use their version), whilst 'mechs' refers to the humongous war robots themselves. Really, though, the two are interchangeable as plurals for 'mech'.
 
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