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Yeah I could be wrong but I think Mecha was first as well. Mecha was Robotech and all those things then Battletech just called them BattleMechs (probably to avoid legal issues).
 
back on topic: Callistarya and I are going to see this tonight.

I really haven't worried about spoilers and have read the thread pretty freely since I assumed (based on the trailers I've seen) that the plot was pretty derivative. Still, i expect to enjoy the show tonight.
 
I think 'mecha' came first, actually. Robotech (that frankensteined Macross show), which introduced the word 'mecha' to Western audiences, came out slightly before Battletech (the unrelated tabletop wargame), which introduced the word 'mech', IIRC.

Good rule of thumb is that 'mecha' refers to a particular sort of show featuring humongous war robots (mostly because those sorts of shows tend to come from Japan, so it only seems fair to use their version), whilst 'mechs' refers to the humongous war robots themselves. Really, though, the two are interchangeable as plurals for 'mech'.
Exactly, one is western, one is Japanese.

It's like calling a Spider-Man comic manga.
 
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JCM

James Camorn is offcially the King of the box office grosses, with Titanic and Avatr being the biggest-grossing films ever. And there's still chance that Avatar can surpass Titanic.
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

(Not to forget that before Titanic, Aliens and Terminator 2 were the highest-grossing movies of their respective franchises)
 
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If you have a math nerd friend, ask him to calculate the average ticket price, then divide the gross by it.
 
If you have a math nerd friend, ask him to calculate the average ticket price, then divide the gross by it.
This is kind of problematic since it's hard to get something remotely close to an average ticket price between matinee shows, night shows, RealD, and IMAX showings. And no clue how many went to each type of show.
 
Thing is, one of the biggest deals about this movie is the use of the new 3D technology. That being said, how many people are actually going to buy the dvd when they can't get the same effect in their home yet?

Or, maybe the movie will bust that industry cherry too.
 
Thing is, one of the biggest deals about this movie is the use of the new 3D technology. That being said, how many people are actually going to buy the dvd when they can't get the same effect in their home yet?

Or, maybe the movie will bust that industry cherry too.
They just announced that the PS3 will get 3D functionality in a firmware update soon. Seems like it's coming to our homes sooner than later...
 
For Blu-Ray, at least.

I'm still in the "fuck hi-def, got plenty of DVDs" camp myself. I'm certainly not going to replace my movie collection for that stuff, and my TV size means I can't tell the difference. But I'm happy that they keep rolling out the Blu-Ray; means regular DVDs are getting cheaper.

As someone who enjoyed it for the movie, and felt the 3D itself was worthless and added nothing, it's on our to-get list when it comes out on DVD.

I think I'm just not a 3D guy. It doesn't give me headaches, but my favorite movie last year was Coraline, which I saw in 3D at the theater, and I just didn't see the point.
 
We enjoyed the movie. The story was derivative and predictable, for sure, but had some unique elements as well.

The only really jarring moment for me was when the general pulled a big ass knife from the mech, since it really was totally nonsensical why the mech would have a big ass knife.

we saw it in 2d..i have no sterovision at all, and so all 3d movies look like ass to me.
 
We enjoyed the movie. The story was derivative and predictable, for sure, but had some unique elements as well.

The only really jarring moment for me was when the general pulled a big ass knife from the mech, since it really was totally nonsensical why the mech would have a big ass knife.

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Yeah there is no need for a knife when you're traipsing through a huge and dense forested planet
 
We enjoyed the movie. The story was derivative and predictable, for sure, but had some unique elements as well.

The only really jarring moment for me was when the general pulled a big ass knife from the mech, since it really was totally nonsensical why the mech would have a big ass knife.

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Yeah there is no need for a knife when you're traipsing through a huge and dense forested planet[/QUOTE]

But I think his was the only mech that had one.
 
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JCM

For Blu-Ray, at least.

I'm still in the "fuck hi-def, got plenty of DVDs" camp myself. I'm certainly not going to replace my movie collection for that stuff, and my TV size means I can't tell the difference. But I'm happy that they keep rolling out the Blu-Ray; means regular DVDs are getting cheaper.

As someone who enjoyed it for the movie, and felt the 3D itself was worthless and added nothing, it's on our to-get list when it comes out on DVD.

I think I'm just not a 3D guy. It doesn't give me headaches, but my favorite movie last year was Coraline, which I saw in 3D at the theater, and I just didn't see the point.
In most cases, for older movies, blu-ray is not worth it, if you leave a normal tv for dvd watching (LCD makes dvds look shite)

The bourne trilogy, for example, the first two dont look any better than a dvd on a normal TV. The last, is amazingly detailed, because it was made for HD screens.

My advice? Get it for stuff like Wall-E, Up or new sci-fi/action flicks. Keep using dvd for comedies and older movies. If you have a PS3, it means you get 3D movies with an update, but then you dont like 3D.
 
We enjoyed the movie. The story was derivative and predictable, for sure, but had some unique elements as well.

The only really jarring moment for me was when the general pulled a big ass knife from the mech, since it really was totally nonsensical why the mech would have a big ass knife.

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Yeah there is no need for a knife when you're traipsing through a huge and dense forested planet[/QUOTE]

But I think his was the only mech that had one.[/QUOTE]
I think there was one knifing the natives on horseback in one of the battle scenes.
 
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Chibibar

I finally saw this movie. It is pretty good. Yea it is a "re-hash" from older movies, but I like it. It has action, decent story, and effects :)

(we saw it in 3D)
 
In most cases, for older movies, blu-ray is not worth it, if you leave a normal tv for dvd watching (LCD makes dvds look shite)

The bourne trilogy, for example, the first two dont look any better than a dvd on a normal TV. The last, is amazingly detailed, because it was made for HD screens.

My advice? Get it for stuff like Wall-E, Up or new sci-fi/action flicks. Keep using dvd for comedies and older movies. If you have a PS3, it means you get 3D movies with an update, but then you dont like 3D.
You don't know what you're talking about. Every movie ever made was shot for "High definition" because Film has a higher definition than blu-rays. Blu-ray looks better than DVD for every movie ever shot on film (this is 99% of them). The only exceptions might be old TV shows shot in fullscreen/not on film.
 
We enjoyed the movie. The story was derivative and predictable, for sure, but had some unique elements as well.

The only really jarring moment for me was when the general pulled a big ass knife from the mech, since it really was totally nonsensical why the mech would have a big ass knife.

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Yeah there is no need for a knife when you're traipsing through a huge and dense forested planet[/QUOTE]

A mech is not a person. It doesn't need a machete to easily get rid of vines and thick brush. It can just power through them. A tree wouldn't succumb to a knife anyway. Not to mention, it wasn't a machete...it was a combat knife, and not once, did we see during the entire duration of the movie, a mech using a knife against underbrush.

:rolleyes:
 
In most cases, for older movies, blu-ray is not worth it, if you leave a normal tv for dvd watching (LCD makes dvds look shite)

The bourne trilogy, for example, the first two dont look any better than a dvd on a normal TV. The last, is amazingly detailed, because it was made for HD screens.

My advice? Get it for stuff like Wall-E, Up or new sci-fi/action flicks. Keep using dvd for comedies and older movies. If you have a PS3, it means you get 3D movies with an update, but then you dont like 3D.
You don't know what you're talking about. Every movie ever made was shot for "High definition" because Film has a higher definition than blu-rays. Blu-ray looks better than DVD for every movie ever shot on film (this is 99% of them). The only exceptions might be old TV shows shot in fullscreen/not on film.[/QUOTE]

Yesyesyesyesyes. One other exception: Every now and then you get a very BAD transfer from film to Blu-Ray (See: Ghostbusters 1 Blu-Ray).
 
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JCM

In most cases, for older movies, blu-ray is not worth it, if you leave a normal tv for dvd watching (LCD makes dvds look shite)

The bourne trilogy, for example, the first two dont look any better than a dvd on a normal TV. The last, is amazingly detailed, because it was made for HD screens.

My advice? Get it for stuff like Wall-E, Up or new sci-fi/action flicks. Keep using dvd for comedies and older movies. If you have a PS3, it means you get 3D movies with an update, but then you dont like 3D.
You don't know what you're talking about. Every movie ever made was shot for "High definition" because Film has a higher definition than blu-rays. Blu-ray looks better than DVD for every movie ever shot on film (this is 99% of them). The only exceptions might be old TV shows shot in fullscreen/not on film.[/QUOTE]The old "it can be better than Blu-Ray" argument, yes, its true film (same goes for photographic film) has a resolution thats bigger, hich I wish were true all the time, because my criterion collection giftbox doesnt have ANY noticeable difference from their counterparts in DVD.

Every old movie I have on both, dont show any noticeable difference besides they dont look like mud on a LCD screen like a dvd does. Watch ANY old movie transfer. Now watch a high-def movie, like lets say, Dark Knight or Wall-E. And it'll look less detailed and less sharp.

Today's lesson is higher film resolution is not always = sharp crisp high def.
Same applies for normal cameras vs high definition cameras.

If you do have any good crisp Blu-ray transfers that I may rent and test out, I'll be glad to rent them and check them out, because until now I've only gotten dissapointed.
 

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When VHS died, I didn't even really buy into DVDs. I've got a few, but services like Netflix and Redbox had become so entrenched, even at the beginning, that it seemed pointless to buy anything. Not to mention, when movies went digital, I suspected that the next format would be virtual. I still do, and I think Bluray is intermediary at best. There are already better high-def compression algorithms out there. They just need support and standardization.
 
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We enjoyed the movie. The story was derivative and predictable, for sure, but had some unique elements as well.

The only really jarring moment for me was when the general pulled a big ass knife from the mech, since it really was totally nonsensical why the mech would have a big ass knife.

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Yeah there is no need for a knife when you're traipsing through a huge and dense forested planet[/QUOTE]

A mech is not a person. It doesn't need a machete to easily get rid of vines and thick brush. It can just power through them. A tree wouldn't succumb to a knife anyway. Not to mention, it wasn't a machete...it was a combat knife, and not once, did we see during the entire duration of the movie, a mech using a knife against underbrush.

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Really? That was some thick vegetation - enough to stop a tank, I'd say, and the mechs employed were significantly more fragile in design than that. It also makes sense that on a densely-forested planet with limited line-of-sight where everything's trying to kill you as a matter of course (including some very nasty oversized ambush predators, like that big hairless lion-dog beastie it got into a brawl with at the end), you would want to keep a little something around for close encounters. Note that even the standard-model mechs had some very nasty-looking bayonets on their guns.

Also, Quaritch was a bloodthirsty crazy with enough clout on the base to get himself a neat little custom mech with no questions asked. See also: the Joker's little speech on knives from the Dark Knight.
 
Really? That was some thick vegetation - enough to stop a tank, I'd say, and the mechs employed were significantly more fragile in design than that.
Really? It's funny how none of that was actually in the movie I saw. You know, vegetation stopping tanks, mechs being fragile, etc. In the movie I saw, I saw the machinery (mechs and tanks) pretty much tearing up the plant life and all but the largest animal life. Even without the knife, the general's mech was able to man-handle the big puma-thing that probably weighed in at probably close to half a ton (based on size and mass--male african lions are nearly a quarter ton on average and this thing was much larger than one of those.). So, yeah, I don't think a mech is going to have much trouble just tearing down most vegetation with it's arms.

You can argue why the guy had a knife all day. It was a cartoon, essentially, so yeah if the guy wanted to have a big knife on his mech, fine. It was just a little jarringly over the top for me.
 
I think it's was hilariously over the top and represented pretty much everything I love about the guy.

"Huh, this ship is a goner. Lemme just jump into my mech so I can leap out from the exploding ship and - oh, I'm on fire, that's annoying - ok, so now jump out, land on my feet, watch the ship explode, and then clamp down on the cigar and I'm goin' huntin'!"
 
He was something else. I loved Spoony and his brother's interpretations of the guy, even if I disagreed with Spoony's take on the movie (which, unlike the criticisms here, seemed to go into "making it up to hate it" land, which is odd for Spoony).
 
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Chazwozel

For Blu-Ray, at least.

I'm still in the "fuck hi-def, got plenty of DVDs" camp myself. I'm certainly not going to replace my movie collection for that stuff, and my TV size means I can't tell the difference. But I'm happy that they keep rolling out the Blu-Ray; means regular DVDs are getting cheaper.

As someone who enjoyed it for the movie, and felt the 3D itself was worthless and added nothing, it's on our to-get list when it comes out on DVD.

I think I'm just not a 3D guy. It doesn't give me headaches, but my favorite movie last year was Coraline, which I saw in 3D at the theater, and I just didn't see the point.
In most cases, for older movies, blu-ray is not worth it, if you leave a normal tv for dvd watching (LCD makes dvds look shite)

The bourne trilogy, for example, the first two dont look any better than a dvd on a normal TV. The last, is amazingly detailed, because it was made for HD screens.

My advice? Get it for stuff like Wall-E, Up or new sci-fi/action flicks. Keep using dvd for comedies and older movies. If you have a PS3, it means you get 3D movies with an update, but then you dont like 3D.[/QUOTE]

Dvds look just fine on an LCD with an upconverting DvD player with HDMI components.
 
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Chazwozel

In most cases, for older movies, blu-ray is not worth it, if you leave a normal tv for dvd watching (LCD makes dvds look shite)

The bourne trilogy, for example, the first two dont look any better than a dvd on a normal TV. The last, is amazingly detailed, because it was made for HD screens.

My advice? Get it for stuff like Wall-E, Up or new sci-fi/action flicks. Keep using dvd for comedies and older movies. If you have a PS3, it means you get 3D movies with an update, but then you dont like 3D.
You don't know what you're talking about. Every movie ever made was shot for "High definition" because Film has a higher definition than blu-rays. Blu-ray looks better than DVD for every movie ever shot on film (this is 99% of them). The only exceptions might be old TV shows shot in fullscreen/not on film.[/QUOTE]The old "it can be better than Blu-Ray" argument, yes, its true film (same goes for photographic film) has a resolution thats bigger, hich I wish were true all the time, because my criterion collection giftbox doesnt have ANY noticeable difference from their counterparts in DVD.

Every old movie I have on both, dont show any noticeable difference besides they dont look like mud on a LCD screen like a dvd does. Watch ANY old movie transfer. Now watch a high-def movie, like lets say, Dark Knight or Wall-E. And it'll look less detailed and less sharp.

Today's lesson is higher film resolution is not always = sharp crisp high def.
Same applies for normal cameras vs high definition cameras.

If you do have any good crisp Blu-ray transfers that I may rent and test out, I'll be glad to rent them and check them out, because until now I've only gotten dissapointed.[/QUOTE]

Dude, what the hell are you talking about?
 
I think it's was hilariously over the top and represented pretty much everything I love about the guy.

"Huh, this ship is a goner. Lemme just jump into my mech so I can leap out from the exploding ship and - oh, I'm on fire, that's annoying - ok, so now jump out, land on my feet, watch the ship explode, and then clamp down on the cigar and I'm goin' huntin'!"
The part that defined the character for me was when he decides breathing masks are for pussies, holds his breath and starts shooting the good guys when they are escaping.
 
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