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Soliloquy
I see this being disastrous in S. Korea.
Battle.net 2.0 "RealID" Controversy
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It would be like seeing your name in the phone book for the first time, nothing bad could happen...
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Soliloquy
EVERYDAY RANDOM SON OF A BITCH! TAKE THAT YOU RUN-OF-THE-MILL BASTARD!It would be like seeing your name in the phone book for the first time, nothing bad could happen...
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Rubicon
I canceled my WoW account. I wasn't picking up SC2 already but Blizzard, excuse me, Bobby Kotick, won't be getting more of my money.
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Iaculus
Who is Bobby Kotock? Is that George Harrison's real name?[/QUOTE]
CEO of Activision Blizzard.
Dave
Staff member
Who is Bobby Kotock? Is that George Harrison's real name?[/QUOTE]
CEO of Activision Blizzard.[/QUOTE]
I know. I was playing off the whole thing with nobody knowing Ringo's real name from earlier. Ah well. I thought it was funny.
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Chazwozel
Who the fuck on Earth would give two shits about your identity? You have absolutely no career that could be ruined. No assets to be taken advantage of. No family to be concerned over the well-being of. Mav, my friend, I think stealing a 13 year old's identity would make more sense than finding out yours.
I don't mean to sound conceited, but I'll use myself as an example: I'm a college professor . If I post on the StarCraft forums I run the risk of a student looking up my identity and using it against me etc...
I'm still going to play the game!
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Chazwozel
Yeah, but I still fully support the use of real names on those forums. The parental controls and such should be enough to control that problem. Not to mention that stalking is still going to be illegal. Considering that the stalkers lose the same amount of privacy over those forums as the teenage girls do, it'll make it for Chris Hanson to pay them a visit.
I wonder how many parents pay attention to the release notes of the game. Will they even be notified that this change is taking place, and they can now stop their child from posting on the forums? The kids sure aren't going to tell the parents.
I think it's a stupid idea, but I really don't care. I never post on their forums anyway. All they're going to do is kill what little useful feedback they used to get through the forums. People are also going to think twice before posting on the support forums, so it will be interesting to see if their call center starts getting all those calls.
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Hmmm, I wonder how many kids have their accounts under their parents name. That could make for interesting situations.
I think it's a stupid idea, but I really don't care. I never post on their forums anyway. All they're going to do is kill what little useful feedback they used to get through the forums. People are also going to think twice before posting on the support forums, so it will be interesting to see if their call center starts getting all those calls.
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Hmmm, I wonder how many kids have their accounts under their parents name. That could make for interesting situations.
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Chazwozel
I think that the significant posters are going to still post (the one's that the WoW mods sticky their posts). If I had enough time to post constructive feedback on those games, I sure would still post.
No they won't. As long as the stalker doesn't post, his/her RL name will not be known.
I'm sure they will, but they aren't the ones posting in the support forums or asking for advice on something. People will think twice about posting, and I don't think it will be just the trolls that do it. People with legitimate issues and questions will go elsewhere, and that's not a good thing to have happen. At least they could address those concerns on their own forum.
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Chazwozel
No they won't. As long as the stalker doesn't post, his/her RL name will not be known.[/QUOTE]
Then a parent should tell his stupid fucking teenager not to be an idiot and post on a forum full of creeps. (I realize the irony of posting this on Halforums ;-D) I've already had a chat about internet safety with the 6 year old, and monitor his online time. It's not that hard to keep your kids internet smart.
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I'm not sure if it was mentioned yet but there's at least one (female) Blizzard employee who was an active poster who decided to quit the forums altogether.
Also, it had to be pointed out to me that this is also a bad thing for the transgendered as there are many who are stealth or simply don't want to be scrutinized and trolled, stalked, or worse because of their (current) RL names not matching their gender. I know of several who actively play WoW. Some may not post on the forums, but they cannot accept any friends requests from guildmates and such either now.[/QUOTE]
How is a transgendered person going to be affected by this specifically? If you're name is Charline Johnson, how is a person going to know if you're really a man or woman?
Dave
Staff member
Overall, this change seems pretty useless. If I'd troll under a lvl 1 alt, I'd just continue trolling under a fake name. So as an anti trolling tool it has 0 effectiveness.
Unless Blizzard want's to link the RealID to a verified bank account name I don't see this stopping anything.
And as far as anonymity on the internet: As a guy who doesn't really ruffle anyones feathers I couldn't give 2 shits about remaining anonymous or having to put my real name out there. I can imagine that as a somewhat attractive female this change could negatively affect your forum experience, so I'd suggest going with the fake name thing.
Unless Blizzard want's to link the RealID to a verified bank account name I don't see this stopping anything.
And as far as anonymity on the internet: As a guy who doesn't really ruffle anyones feathers I couldn't give 2 shits about remaining anonymous or having to put my real name out there. I can imagine that as a somewhat attractive female this change could negatively affect your forum experience, so I'd suggest going with the fake name thing.
GasBandit
Staff member
Really? It won't?
What's your REAL NAME?[/QUOTE]
David Nihsen.
But seriously, you're missing the point. If suddenly everybody's real name started being attached to their posts, it probably wouldn't change my posting habits at all, though I might be a bit miffed at first. But I bet you there are a number of females around here who might disappear.
Dave
Staff member
Really? It won't?
What's your REAL NAME?[/QUOTE]
David Nihsen.
But seriously, you're missing the point. If suddenly everybody's real name started being attached to their posts, it probably wouldn't change my posting habits at all, though I might be a bit miffed at first. But I bet you there are a number of females around here who might disappear.[/QUOTE]
Would YOU post there knowing your real name would be attached? If not, then it will have an effect.
GasBandit
Staff member
Really? It won't?
What's your REAL NAME?[/QUOTE]
David Nihsen.
But seriously, you're missing the point. If suddenly everybody's real name started being attached to their posts, it probably wouldn't change my posting habits at all, though I might be a bit miffed at first. But I bet you there are a number of females around here who might disappear.[/QUOTE]
Would YOU post there knowing your real name would be attached? If not, then it will have an effect.[/QUOTE]
I quit playing Warcraft a couple years ago, so it's moot. But no, were I still playing, this would not prevent me from posting on the blizzard forums.
Dave
Staff member
Really? It won't?
What's your REAL NAME?[/QUOTE]
David Nihsen.
But seriously, you're missing the point. If suddenly everybody's real name started being attached to their posts, it probably wouldn't change my posting habits at all, though I might be a bit miffed at first. But I bet you there are a number of females around here who might disappear.[/QUOTE]
Would YOU post there knowing your real name would be attached? If not, then it will have an effect.[/QUOTE]
I quit playing Warcraft a couple years ago, so it's moot. But no, were I still playing, this would not prevent me from posting on the blizzard forums.[/QUOTE]
No offense, Gas, but I think you are not being truthful. What would you do if I implemented this on this very forum? Would you leave or continue to post? I think we'd automatically lose you, Amy, Shego and possibly even Ame.
People have a right to at least some privacy. If Blizzard was smart they'd simply tie the accounts together so that if a 1st level alt got banned so would the primary account. And depending on the level of the trolling they could have their account locked for X time for it. All they need to say is that in-game and forum etiquette is the same. Boom. Problem solved.
GasBandit
Staff member
I don't know, I don't actually think I'd stop posting (any more than I already have but that has nothing to do with privacy). But I think you're right about the other people who'd disappear. Privacy is a good thing, and I agree with you that what this REALLY is about is blizzard being too lazy to administrate their own forums.
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Chazwozel
How is a transgendered person going to be affected by this specifically? If you're name is Charline Johnson, how is a person going to know if you're really a man or woman?[/QUOTE]
I don't think there are a lot of genetic girls called "Richard" or "Michael". Maybe you missed the fact this RealID thing isn't limited to the forums.
Many guilds will want to make use of this feature, and virtually all TGs will have to refuse to participate. If you suddenly have to tell the people who have been your friends & guild mates for years that your name is "James" or "Robert" when they have only known you as "Linda" or "Jennifer" that is too big an obstacle for many TGs to overcome. Though I am sure you can't imagine the amount of ridicule those people would be faced with if they were forced to reveal that bit of information. Most TGs don't go around "Hi, I'm a transsexual! 'sup?". ESPECIALLY online.
Like I said, many TGs and TS are stealth. Laws vary per country, many cannot change their names (and gender) that easily (or ever, even). Being forced to reveal that information can be very damaging to their self-esteem, confidence, etc..
Not only that, there are many more that only have their online life to be free in. To be free in their correct gender. They can be "Barbara" online with friends who accept her completely because her real life would never accept Mr. James McAllistar, CEO of an important company, married with 3 kids for over 40 years, captain of the bowling team changing his gender.
They should, but they don't.
..I hate my current RL name with a passion, always have.[/QUOTE]
Soooo is Blizzard going to require a copy of your birth certificate to make sure you're using your legal name now?
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Element 117
Presumably they'd use the name on the credit card, right?
"Forum of Creeps" is exactly what Blizzard is trying to do away with Chaz.
Warn your kids against posting on a forum where your favorite game developers and community managers post? That's the dangerous place? Seriously you have to be able to look at it from that point of view as well.
Warn your kids against posting on a forum where your favorite game developers and community managers post? That's the dangerous place? Seriously you have to be able to look at it from that point of view as well.
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Chazwozel
Game cards
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I suppose the whole issue is solved if they just buck up and link a "master" nickname to all subsequent accounts.
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Element 117
Dont accounts require a name and address from a CC regardless of GCs?
That's the point Buckley was making on his reply. It's probably the best course of action and what will end up happening when Blizzard pulls the plug on the RL name thing.
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Rubicon
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hahhahahaha.. you really had me there, oh man thats rich
If you're really a college professor, we're all fucked. Thank god none of the professors I had going through college weren't a giant gapping asshole this side of the planet such as you, good sir.
But hey, flex that internet muscle, internet tough at work here folks, stand back he may hurt someone!
lol.. college professor.. thats fuckin great hahaha
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