So it was Maras in training.
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from what I can see, if the kids are being a menace after he arrested one (that you can see) then he could fire at them as self defense. He was holding a kid down with one hand and fire with another. I am GUESSING he is just doing cover fire and one of the kid just happen to run into it (it could happen) but if he is a marksman then yea.. you can hit pretty well with one hand and holding down another target.
Officer Charon: you are an officer, how is your shooting skill?
from what I can see, if the kids are being a menace after he arrested one (that you can see) then he could fire at them as self defense. He was holding a kid down with one hand and fire with another. I am GUESSING he is just doing cover fire and one of the kid just happen to run into it (it could happen) but if he is a marksman then yea.. you can hit pretty well with one hand and holding down another target.
Officer Charon: you are an officer, how is your shooting skill?
[/QUOTE]I don't need to be an officer of the law to tell you that they don't do "just cover fire." At least, not against a group of teenagers. You are only supposed to discharge your weapon if lethal force is needed for a situation, and I'm not certain it was necessary here.
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from what I can see, if the kids are being a menace after he arrested one (that you can see) then he could fire at them as self defense. He was holding a kid down with one hand and fire with another. I am GUESSING he is just doing cover fire and one of the kid just happen to run into it (it could happen) but if he is a marksman then yea.. you can hit pretty well with one hand and holding down another target.
Officer Charon: you are an officer, how is your shooting skill?
[/QUOTE]I don't need to be an officer of the law to tell you that they don't do "just cover fire." At least, not against a group of teenagers. You are only supposed to discharge your weapon if lethal force is needed for a situation, and I'm not certain it was necessary here.[/QUOTE]
well... what you would consider lethal? the guy said they are throwing rocks. Rocks CAN be lethal if use correctly so. Personally my parents taught me that if you are going to shoot, you shoot to kill. The video quality is so bad that I can't tell if rocks WERE thrown.
FBI experts are saying there are, and I'm going to secede to their expertise here. And yes, rocks can be quite lethal... it's one of the reasons Riot Cops in the US get a strong helmet if they are deployed. The real question here is whether or not the situation warranted it or rather, whether the Officer felt he had a reasonable assumption of whether or not his life was in danger. Honestly... considering how Mexicans are portrayed in some parts of our country, I could see how some people might think the worst in that situation.
I don't think so. He might have been packing a vest, but I think he's wearing a ball cap with the Border Patrol logo on it. Even if he had been, Kevlar is made to stop bullets from penetrating... it can't stop the weight of a rock from cracking a rib or something without some padding. However, it's very likely they don't issue the Border Patrol with vests due to budget concerns.
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I VERY curious on why/how someone with a cell phone just happens to be on the high point of the area at that exact time and place. The shooting is taking place by what looks like a rail bridge so why the crowd gathering to watch 3-4 teens try and cross the border there?
While I wish it wouldn't happen, if the cops on the Mexican side were as fast to stop them from trying to come over the border as they were to yell at their US counterparts...perhaps some of this could have been avoided.
While I wish it wouldn't happen, if the cops on the Mexican side were as fast to stop them from trying to come over the border as they were to yell at their US counterparts...perhaps some of this could have been avoided.
It has been 20+ years since I've crossed there. But 20 years ago the border was crowded, with long lines waiting to cross to go to their jobs in America.
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