Bow Before Victoria Von Doom!

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

So, in addition to all of the other news of the Fantastic Four reboot (Michael B. Jordon potentially as the Human Torch, Miles Teller testing for Reed Richard), they may not only use Dr. Doom as the villain, but may in fact make him a woman for it.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=114455

...We really don't need a change like this. Just give us a Dr. Doom who captures the pride and power that Doom possesses, that's all I ask.
 
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ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Oh god. :facepalm:

Her new origin will be that she secretly wanted to bone Reed all this time. Or that Reed rejected her in favour of Sue. You just watch. It'll be a fucking love triangle.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

ThatNickGuy said:
Oh god. :facepalm:

Her new origin will be that she secretly wanted to bone Reed all this time. Or that Reed rejected her in favour of Sue. You just watch. It'll be a fucking love triangle.
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That is my fear. They'll basically just do what the previous Fantastic Four films did, but just add a new layer of dumb.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

filmfanatic said:
That is my fear. They'll basically just do what the previous Fantastic Four films did, but just add a new layer of dumb.
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Which will be equally amazing, given how dumb the previous ones were.

And I say that as one of the few people that didn't hate the last two!
 
General Specific

General Specific

they are considering the possibility of switching the character's gender.
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Might possibly, perhaps, maybe, sorta kinda looking into it. ...Maybe.

Though I do agree that if they change Doom to a woman for the purpose of having a love triangle, it is a stupid move.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Besides my main complaints about making Dr. Doom a woman, I honestly think they should save Doom until the second film, so that they can develop his character without also having to set up the Fantastic Four.

My pick for the villain for a first Fantastic Four film: Mole Man.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

If they get a Reed that young it seems more like this would go Ultimates, but then who knows. This sounds like it might just end up a weird Mario Bros. kind of mess.
 
Fun Size

Fun Size

Movie makers release news claiming consideration of making drastic changes to beloved franchise in an effort to whip up internet rage and speculation guaranteeing that major online outlets report it as "news" and people continue caring about something that isn't even in production yet.

Film at 11.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Look, I just want to see Meryl Streep win the Oscar for playing Dr. Doom
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...Actually, that sounds kind of awesome.

Honestly, I'll cool it off my initial response to making Dr. Doom a woman. If they can come up with something interesting and capture the spirit of the character, I would be fine with that. My main concern is that this might just be a change done for the sake of making changes.
 
Gryfter

Gryfter

Charlie Don't Surf said:
And? There need to be more leading type roles for women. The gender disparity in hollywood is huuuuge, and even worse for minorities.
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Sorry, but recasting an iconic comic book villain who has been male for over 50 years as a woman just cause is in no way going to fix the gender disparity in Hollywood. I am sorry but I don't understand the logic behind the decisions they are making for this film. At the rate they are going they should just create their own team of 4 elemental based heroes, call it the Fantastical Foursome and then they can tell whatever story they want.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Maybe instead of trying to shoehorn an unnecessary character gender-bend, they could work on making a good superhero movie with a female lead?

In fact, I'm surprised there's never been even ONE female lead superhero movie. Not even one.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Gryfter said:
Sorry, but recasting an iconic comic book villain who has been male for over 50 years as a woman just cause is in no way going to fix the gender disparity in Hollywood.
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Sorry, but you're wrong? Casting more women in big budget movies is literally fixing the gender disparity in Hollywood. I don't know how you don't understand that.
 
Tress

Tress

I do not see how being male is vital to Dr. Doom's character. It could be done by a woman without sacrificing any characterization.
 
Cajungal

Cajungal

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I'm not invested in this movie, but I have to say I'm interested in a gender-flipped villain. But then I have a dream of playing Sweeney Todd one day.
 
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figmentPez

figmentPez

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Charlie Don't Surf said:
Sorry, but you're wrong? Casting more women in big budget movies is literally fixing the gender disparity in Hollywood. I don't know how you don't understand that.
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Unless you, maybe, want a long-term fix, and not a slap-dash effort that backfires and only ends up making more resistance to fixing gender disparity because "just look at how poorly movies with more women did at the box office".

If you're going to put women in more roles, put them in those roles for the right reasons, and there are plenty of right reasons to be found.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Sorry, but you're wrong? Casting more women in big budget movies is literally fixing the gender disparity in Hollywood. I don't know how you don't understand that.
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It may fix the gender disparity in employment, but I don't see how it will fix the disparity in stories and such. Victoria VD could unleash a weapon which gender-bends the entire population of Earth into biological females, but I fail to see how a movie about this would legitimately fix gender disparity IRL aside from employing more female actors.

--Patrick
 
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