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I'm not sure advertising that you've already given up is what you should be doing.

I wish they wouldn't do another fucking election so soon but that's mostly because I like the NDP keeping the Liberals from too much fuckery.
 


I'm not sure advertising that you've already given up is what you should be doing.

I wish they wouldn't do another fucking election so soon but that's mostly because I like the NDP keeping the Liberals from too much fuckery.
Who is this kind of shit for? Like I'm broadly conservative but who the fuck enjoys these shitty meme/gag/insult ads? "How can we convince people we're the mature ones? Oh I know..."
 
I'm pretty such that was/is the Trump campaign motto.
Well copyright aside, us Northern folks ban adds outside of election season.

Which just kicked off with todays dissolving of Parliament. 35 days, 5 weeks of this madness. Yuck. Ugh, remember that 76 day campaign in 2015? Fuck Harper, that was torture and soley chosen because the PCs had enough money saved to campaign that long.
 
And hot on the heels of the NS provincial election too! There are so many signs around town already! Let me have clear boulevards for a while! Please!
*sigh*
Also - of course Trudeau wants a majority, no shit sherlock! But, like, do you need a poorly created 'attack' ad to spread your whiney bs?? Ug.
 
My mother was watching a live Q&A with NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. She just said "I just don't like him. I wish he'd remove his turban."

I IMMEDIATELY called this out and said that's racist.

She said "He's in Canada now. He doesn't have to wear it."

I told her it's his religious freedom to wear it if he wants. I told her it's no different than her freedom to wear a cross.

This is honestly shocking for me because I always thought my mother was an open minded individual. I NEVER thought I'd hear her say something so racist.
 
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My mother was watching a live Q&A with NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. She just said "I just don't like him. I wish he'd renove his turban."

I IMMEDIATELY called this out and said that's racist.

She said "He's in Canada now. He doesn't have to wear it."

I told her it's his religious freedom to wear it if he wants. I told her it's no different than her freedom to wear a cross.

This is honestly shocking for me because I always thought my mother was an open minded individual. I NEVER thought I'd hear her say something so racist.
But Nick, why would anyone NOT be christian unless someone had a gun to their head?

Flippancy aside, I feel you, bro. I'm so disappointed in so many members of my family, too, lately.
 
But Nick, why would anyone NOT be christian unless someone had a gun to their head?

Flippancy aside, I feel you, bro. I'm so disappointed in so many members of my family, too, lately.
Unfortunately, I've always known most everyone in my family were racists. :(

When they were alive, my grandparents lived in Lawton, OK. It's was a pretty white town, except for everyone stationed at the army base. That's a pretty diverse crowd, as can be imagined/assumed.

I credit a black guy for showing me how ridiculous my grandmother's racism was when I was about 6 or 7 years old. We were driving to the library "across town" (like 5 miles away) and he pulled up next to us at a stop light. My grandmother noticed that there was a black guy next to us, and she spazzes out and fumbles to lock the doors.

He noticed, and sarcastically spazzed out and locked his own doors. It was so hilarious, and has stuck with me my entire life.

Both my grandparents were Sunday school teachers. And while my grandmother didn't really seem that godly to me, my grandfather was as close to Mr. Rogers as anyone I have ever known. Super accepting, gracious, uplifting, etc. It wasn't until I was in my 20's or 30's that I noticed his racism in hindsight. I'd occasionally hear him say stuff like "she was very well spoken for a colored person". It wasn't the hate-filled racism of my grandmother (who often used the n-word), but more the natural assumption that black people were...less. It broke my heart when I realized it.

My mom's racism is somewhere in between. Not as vocal as my grandmother's, not as gently condescending as my grandfathers. My brothers...pretty much just like my grandmother. I think the only person in my immediate family that I can't recall ever making any kind of racist statement in my entire life is my aunt.
 
I'm sure some people will consider me pedantic and doing the Thing again, but islamophobia is not racism.
Yes, I know, the "-phobia" is a misnomer (just like with homophobia - most aren't afraid of gays but they hate/despise/whatever them) but it's an important distinction in the sense that there are quite a few people who will consider themselves open-minded and kind and perfectly A-OKAY with people looking different from them - being brown, or black, or yellow, perhaps even having a tattoo - as long as they think exactly the same way. Muslims - whatever their color - have a different set of values and norms. That's scary/hideous/wrong. And unlike the color of your skin, being of the wrong mind is obviously a choice, so why do these people feel the need to think differently from proper normal whitechristianbelief in our whitechristiancountry?
I'm not saying one or the other is worse, mind.
it's also why you see people who are totally not racist, still balk at allowing/accepting Afro hair as just as neat and proper as "white" hair.
 
I'm sure some people will consider me pedantic and doing the Thing again, but islamophobia is not racism.
Yes, I know, the "-phobia" is a misnomer (just like with homophobia - most aren't afraid of gays but they hate/despise/whatever them) but it's an important distinction in the sense that there are quite a few people who will consider themselves open-minded and kind and perfectly A-OKAY with people looking different from them - being brown, or black, or yellow, perhaps even having a tattoo - as long as they think exactly the same way. Muslims - whatever their color - have a different set of values and norms. That's scary/hideous/wrong. And unlike the color of your skin, being of the wrong mind is obviously a choice, so why do these people feel the need to think differently from proper normal whitechristianbelief in our whitechristiancountry?
I'm not saying one or the other is worse, mind.
it's also why you see people who are totally not racist, still balk at allowing/accepting Afro hair as just as neat and proper as "white" hair.
Just to be further pedantic, Singh is Sikh, not Muslim. Which isn't necessarily racist, you're right, but it is primarily practiced by Punjabi people. So race does enter into this in a way.

 
Just to be further pedantic, Singh is Sikh, not Muslim. Which isn't necessarily racist, you're right, but it is primarily practiced by Punjabi people. So race does enter into this in a way.

Don't know him, didn't bother to look him up, but, well, obviously, a turban isn't a Muslim religious item :oops::okay:
I'm really out of it these past few days, that was dumb of me.
Most of the rest of what I said still holds up, though. The Sikh religion/philosophy is... Pretty out there. Interesting, but quite a bit weirder to western minds than plain old Islam which is honestly pretty close to old fashioned Christianity.
 
Just to be further pedantic, Singh is Sikh, not Muslim. Which isn't necessarily racist, you're right, but it is primarily practiced by Punjabi people. So race does enter into this in a way.

I don't know your mother, or anything about your relationship with her, so this advice may not be helpful, but if she's someone who listens, maybe explain that Sikhs typically don't cut their hair as a sign of respect to God, and they hold it in place with a turban. It's practical as much as it's of religious significance. Maybe read a few blogs by Sikhs about their religion/dress to help you express it. If she's not a listener, well.. maybe drop it. Unfortunately.
 
This doesn't surprise me at all. Kinda surprised the progressiveness wasn't higher, actually. Not sure what may have affected that.

But yeah, I'm very much in the NDP/Green voting territory. Less so Green this year with their complete implosion and suing their leader.

Here's a link to the voting compass in case you're curious.


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I'm assuming the People's Party is the "Thats a bad term. We aren't National Socialists in 1940s Germany" party?
Not quite but they're definitely our bastion of anti-immigrant populism. Fortunately they are having a very hard time raising funds and couldn't even get their leader elected in a favourable riding.
 
I tried taking the quiz just for giggles. It just sat there "calculating result" forever. I guess my results are incalculable.
I'm suddenly picturing a Canadian think tank scrambling around, files and pages flying, as they try to figure out the results, barely coherent mathematical formulas on whiteboards, and a pet goose on the loose.

"How the hell did he manage to answer 'Ewok'!? That wasn't even an option!"
 
I like how it plops me right next to the Green Party, but I'm way more aligned according to my answers with the NDP.

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I'm a little surprised by my results. I'd have put myself more socially central, and I'd never vote for the PPC. I think I probably agree with a lot of their economic views, but there are some pretty significant issues where I just absolutely wouldn't vote for them, even if everything else was perfectly in line with my political beliefs.

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