Captain America - the first great Marvel Studios movie?

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SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Saw the movie yesterday, in 2D. Really, really enjoyed it. Made me wish we had gotten a period-piece for the Wolverine movie instead of the piece of crap that we *did* get.

I'd stick this one just below the first Iron Man. I go "squeeeeeee!" for WW2-era stuff, but RDJr kicked so much ass in Iron Man, he clearly tipped the scales. Plus, it was a *leeeeetle* too obvious that they were going through Captain America quickly in order to set up the next film.
 
Frank

Frank

I dug a few of the easter eggs (original human torch and the like) but man, I was pretty disappointed. Though much of that negativity that could be attributed to the dude sitting next to me who thought every slight joke and quip in the movie was the funniest thing ever and caused him to go completely apeshit laughing louder than the entire packed theater combined. This loud scream laughing worked up the handicapped fellow sitting behind me so he would start howling too and his parent would have to calm him down. Funzies.

Anyways, the movie wasn't bad, but it was super middle of the road I thought. The bad guys weren't threatening in the least (again, always my main problem in movies like this) and the good guys seemed to have zero issue trouncing Red Skulls guys. Hugo Weaving was the best part of the movie as the Skull too but I just couldn't bring myself to care about the whole thing.
 
C

Chibibar

Frankie Williamson said:
I dug a few of the easter eggs (original human torch and the like) but man, I was pretty disappointed. Though much of that negativity that could be attributed to the dude sitting next to me who thought every slight joke and quip in the movie was the funniest thing ever and caused him to go completely apeshit laughing louder than the entire packed theater combined. This loud scream laughing worked up the handicapped fellow sitting behind me so he would start howling too and his parent would have to calm him down. Funzies.

Anyways, the movie wasn't bad, but it was super middle of the road I thought. The bad guys weren't threatening in the least (again, always my main problem in movies like this) and the good guys seemed to have zero issue trouncing Red Skulls guys. Hugo Weaving was the best part of the movie as the Skull too but I just couldn't bring myself to care about the whole thing.
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You would think if the army has a weapon that can VAPORIZE you in one shot would use the firing squad technique. In this case, it would work cause they just have to shoot a wall of vaporizing bolts. Essentially creating a WALL of vaporizing bolts (I presume to works on bullets too?) I saw the enemy run away more than shooting :(
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

ScytheRexx said:
Yet to see Captain America, but I hope to get a trip in next weekend or the one after.

As for the Avengers, the thing that still bothers me is that we will NOT be having Ant-Man or Wasp. It does not feel right without them. At LEAST get Wasp in there, so Black Window does not have to be the only female on the team.

Also, I think I am going to miss the "younger" Hulk from the last movie. The one in the poster seems a bit more aged and has less hair.
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If it makes you feel better, Edgar Wright will be making an Ant-Man film.
 
Norris

Norris

ScytheRexx said:
Also, I think I am going to miss the "younger" Hulk from the last movie. The one in the poster seems a bit more aged and has less hair.
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Oddly enough, Mark Ruffalo is only two years older than Edward Norton. But he does look a bit more...distinguished by age than Norton.

filmfanatic said:
If it makes you feel better, Edgar Wright will be making an Ant-Man film.
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Allegedly. It's been well over four years since that was announced and there still isn't a final script yet.
 
Krisken

Krisken

Saw Captain America in 2D this weekend. Went in feeling kinda meh about it and came out loving it. Totally dug the period feel (which helped break the Iron Man mode of the current super hero movies).
 
Gusto

Gusto

Yeah the art direction of Cap was great, really felt like a period piece.

Which is why I enjoy the phrase I've heard a couple times, "Captain America is the best Indiana Jones movie in 20 years."
 
Covar

Covar

Gusto said:
Yeah the art direction of Cap was great, really felt like a period piece.

Which is why I enjoy the phrase I've heard a couple times, "Captain America is the best Indiana Jones movie in 20 years."
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it's strange how similar they are. probably why they had Red Skull make the Raiders reference.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

I went and saw it last night, and I totally loved it, and I did stick around for the Avengers trailer at the end. After Iron Man 2's Nick Fury appearence, I was worried that RDJ wouldn't be reprising the role of Tony Stark, but he was there in the trailer.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Norris said:
More than a few, actually. Ultimate Hawkeye wore the uniform(s, I think there was some variation) that inspired the movie costume from 2002 (The Ultimates #1) to 2008 (The Ultimates 3 #1). He wore it in a total of roughly 61 issues (very rough, because I don't think he appeared every time The Ultimates did) across numerous limited series. He's worn the current purple suit (which has a couple variants) for roughly 39 issues across a few different series since 2008. With August's Ultimate Comics Hawkeye #1, he goes back to the original look. So yeah.
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He also looked like:

for like 1 billion issues. Your point?

He's still the only one that isn't in a recognizable "costume".
 
Norris

Norris

Shegokigo said:
He also looked like:
*classic Hawkeye*
for like 1 billion issues. Your point?

He's still the only one that isn't in a recognizable "costume".
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You're right on his classic look being the more well known, but my point about his Ultimates costume was emphatically not that is is more recognizable than his classic duds. You said he wore it a little. I'm saying he wore it for about six years and is about to again. No Hawkeye costume is going to be all that recognizable to the general public and they're going for an Ultimates-influenced version of character (just by nature of him being a SHIELD agent), so I don't see it as a "thing".

As a total aside, I was kind of bummed when they made him take up the Hawkeye name and uniform again. I'm one of the five comic fans in existence who are happy with growth and change of characters. I wish they'd blended elements of his Hawkeye costumes and his Ronin costume, let him keep the nunchaku and katanna in addition to taking up a bow more prominently, and kept calling him Ronin.
 
Adam

Adam

Watched CA last night, enjoyed it. The ending was a bit abrupt and could have used more of a coda. The button after the credits certainly tantalized.

Loved the fact that Cap had his own recognizable theme - I miss that in movies nowadays! Sure, everyone has a theme, but this one was spectacular.

Overall, probably around a 7 out of 10 on the Adammon movie scale.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Noticed in the credits that it was Disney animated movie song writer Alan Menken who did the Captain America song.

Just got back and LOVED IT. It was everything I'd wanted since hearing about it--another film of The Rocketeer's like, but much better. In fact, I have almost nothing to criticize.

Avengers preview was a little too spastically edited for my tastes, but I caught shots of Loki, green glow that I assume was gamma rays, other stuff. I have a feeling this will be 2008 again, as Iron Man to The Dark Knight--Marvel will come out with a very good, fun movie, and then Batman will awe audiences and steal its thunder.
 
Frank

Frank

Yeah, I went with some friend's who hadn't had a chance to see it and saw it a second time. I loved the shit out it the second time, I think it was the crowd in the first viewing that wrecked the movie for me.
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Norris said:
Oddly enough, Mark Ruffalo is only two years older than Edward Norton. But he does look a bit more...distinguished by age than Norton.

Allegedly. It's been well over four years since that was announced and there still isn't a final script yet.
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Well, he WAS writing, directing and editing Scott Pilgrim, to be fair. That production took him years, even though actual production and post was only a year or so, it was held up in pre-production for forever.

I seem to remember reading on edgarwrighthere.com that he was only writing it, wasn't sure if he wanted to direct it at all, and more importantly, that he wanted to take a year hiatus after finishing with Scott Pilgrim.

Still, I would love to hear some actual news on it. I have no interest in an Ant Man movie, unless Edgar Wright is attached. His approach to the character actually had me interested.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

checkeredhat said:
Well, he WAS writing, directing and editing Scott Pilgrim, to be fair. That production took him years, even though actual production and post was only a year or so, it was held up in pre-production for forever.

I seem to remember reading on edgarwrighthere.com that he was only writing it, wasn't sure if he wanted to direct it at all, and more importantly, that he wanted to take a year hiatus after finishing with Scott Pilgrim.

Still, I would love to hear some actual news on it. I have no interest in an Ant Man movie, unless Edgar Wright is attached. His approach to the character actually had me interested.
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I've heard that he recently turned in a fully-polished final draft of the script by him and Joe Cornish. Word is that, while they aren't necessarily using the character Eric O'Grady (the most recent person to suit up as Ant-Man), they are drawing inspiration from the Irredeemable Ant-Man series.
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

In truth, my only experience with Ant-Man comes from the Ultimates, so I don't know what you're talking about.

But I remember Edgar Wright saying he was trying to use Ant-Man's shrinking powers in more interesting ways, because Ant-Man is often kind of just scoffed at as silly, so he was going to write it as kind of a spy-thriller type thing, using his powers for espionage. It had me intrigued.

Does that sound about right?
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

checkeredhat said:
In truth, my only experience with Ant-Man comes from the Ultimates, so I don't know what you're talking about.

But I remember Edgar Wright saying he was trying to use Ant-Man's shrinking powers in more interesting ways, because Ant-Man is often kind of just scoffed at as silly, so he was going to write it as kind of a spy-thriller type thing, using his powers for espionage. It had me intrigued.

Does that sound about right?
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Sounds sort of right. The Eric O'Grady character was a former SHIELD agent, though his time as Ant-Man had him see-sawing between being a hero (which he wants to be) and being a criminal (which he used to be and still enjoys).

Maybe we'll have Hank Pym recruited to SHIELD and he'll serve as a spy with his shrinking tech.
 
Norris

Norris

checkeredhat said:
In truth, my only experience with Ant-Man comes from the Ultimates, so I don't know what you're talking about.

But I remember Edgar Wright saying he was trying to use Ant-Man's shrinking powers in mroe interesting ways, because Ant-Man is often kind of just scoffed at as silly, so he was going to write it as kind of a spy-thriller type thing, using his powers for espionage. It had me interested.

Does that sound about right?
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The Irredeemable Ant-Man was a SHIELD agent under Nick Fury, was later a member of Norman Osborn's black ops hit squad, and is currently with Captain America's personal team of espionage Avengers. So...yes.

Tress said:
Ant-Man is the Aquaman of the Marvel universe. A movie would be so incredibly lame.
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Aquaman is the king of a magic and weird technology using fantasy kingdom. He can breathe underwater, swim at 1oK Feet Per Second, is impervious to everything up to and including machine gun fire, has superhuman strength, and can summon an army of sharks and giant squids to wreck your boat and eat the survivors. He fights high tech pirates, ancient sea demons, his evil sorcerer brother, his evil rebel army-leading sister-in-law, and at least one humanoid shark. His "family" includes his wife (who has all his abilities save for communication with sea life, instead able to create solid water constructs), a sorcerer whose most basic ability is control over water (including boiling it, spouting it at you, freezing it, and vortexes), the son of pirate nemesis (who has the solid water powers and electric eel abilities), and a bad-ass mercenary genetically altered to be live underwater.

Aquaman isn't fucking lame. Super Friends is fucking lame.

That said, I think the recent "Wasp" incarnation of Hank Pym would make the best movie version. Call him Yellowjacket (to leave the Wasp name free), but the "lightning gun wielding science adventurer who happens to be able to shrink and sprout wings" is just win. Laboratory housed in a parallel dimension, Pocket Tool that keeps an entire lab of Reed Richards-level equipment shrunken in his pocket, awesome leather-labcoat costume, cool goggles, and a fucking lightning gun. One of the few things about Dark Reign I was sad to see go.
 
drifter

drifter

It's funny what a person will and won't accept in fiction. Aquaman can telepathically summon an army of aquatic monsters? No problem. Aquaman can travel 9x the speed of sound underwater? Waaait a minute...
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Oh man, they included the artist angle, there was a Human Torch reference, and the Zola thing was awesome, even if i was the only one in the theatre who got it...

Hydra's tech was a bit too SF though... i would have preferred some old timey looking gauss rifles instead...

Oh, and seriously, they should have included a white Nick Fury in WW2... just have him marry Gabe Jones' sister or cousin... the Howling Commandos just felt off without him...
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

sixpackshaker said:
Sam Jackson Nick, is a WWII vet. So they could not do that.
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In the ultimate comics maybe, but i don't remember anything about it in the films (and i really hope they don't make him another attempt at using the super soldier formula like in the comics). And seeing how he's active 70 years after WW2 he'd have to be over 85...
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

@Li3n said:
In the ultimate comics maybe, but i don't remember anything about it in the films (and i really hope they don't make him another attempt at using the super soldier formula like in the comics). And seeing how he's active 70 years after WW2 he'd have to be over 85...
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But he aged slowly like a good whine... (I know wine...)

If Sam Jack Nick just turns out to be a Gov't Douche without the ability to whip Ironman's ass... I'd rather not watch.
 
Gryfter

Gryfter

Bowielee said:
It's been established in previous threads that DC vs Marvel had nothing to do with who would actually win, but the popularity of the character :p
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Actually, only four of the matches were decided by popular vote (meaning fans called in and voted for their favorite) and Namor vs Aquaman wasn't one of them. ;)
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Gryfter said:
Actually, only four of the matches were decided by popular vote (meaning fans called in and voted for their favorite) and Namor vs Aquaman wasn't one of them. ;)
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That's because no one likes Namor or Aquaman. :p

That said? The fucking fan-vote fights had Wolverine beat Lobo. The Main Man held his own against SUPERMAN while drunk out of his gourd. Wolverine'd be a pushover for him.
 
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