COICA threatens to black list the Internet

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Necronic

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Exactly. Pirate Bay can simply be connected to by VPN through a relocatable proxy that changes as fast as they can shut it down, whereas LegitSmallCorp LLC will be massively at a disadvantage in selling widgets compared to SuperUberCorp Inc.
I absolutely loath it when people say "the criminals will get them anyways" UNLESS someone makes a real argument for why. This is the best argument I have heard for why NOT to implement this bill.

Would this be easy for not tech savy people to do?
 

GasBandit

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Exactly. Pirate Bay can simply be connected to by VPN through a relocatable proxy that changes as fast as they can shut it down, whereas LegitSmallCorp LLC will be massively at a disadvantage in selling widgets compared to SuperUberCorp Inc.
I absolutely loath it when people say "the criminals will get them anyways" UNLESS someone makes a real argument for why. This is the best argument I have heard for why NOT to implement this bill.

Would this be easy for not tech savy people to do?[/QUOTE]

It'd be very easy to distribute a one-click-and-done VPN client you could install to connect.
 

Necronic

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would you have to re install it any time they moved the proxy? Or could the installer be used to track and shut down the proxy?
 

GasBandit

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would you have to re install it any time they moved the proxy? Or could the installer be used to track and shut down the proxy?
There's a number of ways it could be handled. probably the hardest/most lawman-resistant would just be to have a field on the VPN client to enter the proxy's ip address, and whenever it changes just disseminate the new address via social media. How much easier it gets than that depends on how forceful the blacklist is.. IE, if it disrupts DNS resolution or not.
 
would you have to re install it any time they moved the proxy? Or could the installer be used to track and shut down the proxy?
The thing is, even if they shut down the proxy, someone else could just set up another one and then the game begins again. Servers are relatively cheap... at least when compared to the price of sending cops somewhere to unplug it.
 
thats when it becomes illegal to have a private server.
That'll never happen... many companies host their own websites on servers they own, on site. Many of them huge businesses that are trying to control their own assets. Even if it WAS made illegal, those servers aren't just going disappear.
 
thats when it becomes illegal to have a private server.
That'll never happen... many companies host their own websites on servers they own, on site. Many of them huge businesses that are trying to control their own assets. Even if it WAS made illegal, those servers aren't just going disappear.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, no way are any of the telecoms, Google/Microsoft, Big Oil, banks, manufacturers, or investment trading firms going to allow legislators to make private servers illegal. Hell, the SEC would probably throw a shit fit because there's no way they would want to be responsible for policing other company's files on a 24/7/365 basis.
 
thats when it becomes illegal to have a private server.
That'll never happen... many companies host their own websites on servers they own, on site. Many of them huge businesses that are trying to control their own assets. Even if it WAS made illegal, those servers aren't just going disappear.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, no way are any of the telecoms, Google/Microsoft, Big Oil, banks, manufacturers, or investment trading firms going to allow legislators to make private servers illegal. Hell, the SEC would probably throw a shit fit because there's no way they would want to be responsible for policing other company's files on a 24/7/365 basis.[/QUOTE]

Forgive Mr. Thehun, he's talking about China.
 

GasBandit

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Looks like a co-founder of Priate Bay is working on a new decentralized DNS system. It will be interesting to see if they can pull it off.
Ho ho hooooo boy. Decentralized DNS? I know I'm a Libertarian kook and all that, but even THAT sounds a little too close to potential ANARCHY. Ha ha... but it may be what is necessary. I just don't envy the DcDNS hax0rwarz over who gets www.sex.com.
 
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