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Yup.. Dungeon and Dragon Online. Aug 8th

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=190584

Looks like they are going with "FreeRealm" style you can access a lot of stuff free or have monthly subscription for "premium stuff" or micro payment for some of the stuff.

A friend of mine play since the beginning and will help us to get a drow (400 favor point) so we don't have to spend cash

The Company of Discord... in 3D!?!?!?

Oh shit!

... I actually know next to nothing about this game.

well.. it is Dungeon and Dragon Online.

I do believe it is 3.5e Rules (not 4.0)

Oooooh.

I played a free trial or something a year or so back and it was just unbelievably boring.

It's basically a heavily modified 3D 3.5 dnd game in a Eberron setting. I'll definitely play this occasionally for free.

SeriousJay said:

It's basically a heavily modified 3D 3.5 dnd game in a Eberron setting. I'll definitely play this occasionally for free.

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heh... yea it is free. I'm giving it a shot as well.

doomdragon6 said:

I played a free trial or something a year or so back and it was just unbelievably boring.

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Exactly this. However I am more than happy to try it again for free.

Anyone see where this has started yet and one can sign up and give it a whirl? I am not seeing it on their sight as having begun.

the startup date has been pushed back to Sept 9.
It's right there when you go to www.ddo.com

Thanks.

now, which of you fuckers is going to make a free account? We may as well perhaps try to play together.

Shannow said:

Thanks.

now, which of you fuckers is going to make a free account? We may as well perhaps try to play together.

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I might. I've been looking for a new game and I'm not as much worried about ruining my marriage with an MMO, so...

I guess if I had some people to play with I could.

It's just so.. boring!

I know the game is called Dungeons and Dragons, but I played through a dungeon where it was literally JUST a dungeon! The only thing to stop you were a few traps (which didn't stop me) and if you clicked on the sarcophaguseseses, a skeleton would pop out. I started opening all of them at once just to have something to do.

Sounds like a game I'm install for one day and then delete. Isn't there any semblance to an DnD RPG or did they Diablo it?

doomdragon6 said:

I guess if I had some people to play with I could.

It's just so.. boring!

I know the game is called Dungeons and Dragons, but I played through a dungeon where it was literally JUST a dungeon! The only thing to stop you were a few traps (which didn't stop me) and if you clicked on the sarcophaguseseses, a skeleton would pop out. I started opening all of them at once just to have something to do.

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I haven't run into this yet...plenty of mobs in every quest instance I've entered.

SeriousJay said:

Sounds like a game I'm install for one day and then delete. Isn't there any semblance to an DnD RPG or did they Diablo it?

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It's like AD&D 3.5, with a WoW type spin on it. Clearly they can't do turn-based combat, so instead, there's more wow-style combat, but with concentration checks, tumbling, and all that jazz that is in AD&D

Well then, lets form a group when this damn thing launches!

I'll give it a shot for sure.

I'm in like Flynn.

Maybe. I'm ultraskeptical of DnD video games though.

Well like I said, it was ultra boring, but I'll give it another shot if it's free.

The client is ready for download, the high def version is 3.8 gigs. I suggest downloading it ahead of time before go time as it'll probably be as slow on molasses on the 9th.

Ill snag it this weekend.

So will my attempting to download this tonight be an exercise in frustration?

Shit, i forgot to do that this weekend. guess i will try to do it tongiht as well.

We'll need to pick an official server.

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Roleplaying server is "Sarlona". Overtime, should be less retards on the server. Creating my dude there.

My character's name is Soryon Zauviir on the Sarlona server.

Game feels very LOTRO like.... but they improved on how instances work. I've been to a few of the harder ones thus far and I like it.

Ok, just fought a halfling zombie. This game is officially cool. And the DM talking to the party during dungeons while you're roleplaying is an awesome touch.

I'll try it this weekend when i have time. Maybe it won't be boring when you're not by yourself.

I made a few friends, played for a bit with them. They love THUR cleric!

It's a neat free game. But it's a LOT like LOTRO.

Should finish downloading overnight. I'm looking forward to trying it again since it isn't costing me anything, but whether or not I can play in my office during the day depends on the weather, and it's not looking good.

Yeah, it just crashes on start-up for me.

Apparently according to their faq, my drivers must be out of date.

Fuck off.

And apparently nothing short of downloading the non-HD game client can fix my issue. And so, fuck DDO. You fail as a game.

HD version worked perfectly fine for me.

I found the issue, apparently I have to hammer enter when I start the game up so it skips the intro video. The intro video is apparently a huge issue with many PCs. That's some good work guys.

Good stuff!

We settled on the RP server, right? As soon as it finishes downloading, I'll be on all weekend.

I've settled on Sarlona but frankly, I haven't seen anyone just yet.

I'll try to sign up on that server saturday. My home life keeps me busy, so I can't play as much as I might like, but I'll try to get some time in.

I'll post my character name here.

I'll go on Sarlona as well. What's with the server they recommend for new players? Is it low-pop or something?

Yep

Someone also mentioned they got points? 250 would be all we'd really need to form the HF guild called... *drum roll*

Company of Discord

How do I download the game if I already have a Turbine account?

I'll be on this weekend.

Okay, I made a halfling ranger named Silbeth (no last name) on Sarlona. I think she's going to stay unguilded for now but add me to your contact lists and I'll add you once you post your names. So far I've only gotten through the tutorial dungeon and into the first town.

Boy, did they take that "no solo play" criticism seriously! Love how it breaks down the soloability right in the character creation. Very helpful.

Oh, and it's unlikely I'll be on this weekend as apparently it's going to be hot as hell again, so I can't play in my office (which has my desktop with Windows on it). I'm thisclose to Boot Camping my laptop, though.

Here's the link to download: http://www.ddo.com/ddosupport/download-ddo/

So wait, it's not solo friendly at all? rly:

Shegokigo said:

So wait, it's not solo friendly at all? rly:

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When your picking a build (if you take a generic build) it says how solo friendly it will be.

I made Dwarf Fighter named Grablox, but I'm probably going to be making something else. There are locked doors everywhere, so I'm ether making a Rogue, Wizard, Or Sorcerer. I fucking hate being unable to do quest objectives because my character can't do utility stuff. Damnit, why can't I just roll an Expert?

EDIT: Maybe we should all just try to get together sometime this weekend or next week, role up some new characters, and just play from there.

AshburnerX;252569][quote=Shegokigo said:

So wait, it's not solo friendly at all? rly:

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When your picking a build (if you take a generic build) it says how solo friendly it will be. [/QUOTE]

And there appear to be different difficulty levels for dungeons, including "solo." Although I don't know if that's available for all of them.

In other words they seem to have made it easier to solo compared to when it was released.

Shegokigo said:

So wait, it's not solo friendly at all? rly:

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It's solo friendly, at least as far as I got last month and the month before. I think what Zen is referring to is that when you make a character, they tell you how hard it is to solo that particular class.

When you do dungeons (instances), you have 4 levels of difficulty to choose from: Solo, normal, hard, and extreme.

I was playing a human wizard, which is considered 'challenging' to solo. Though some dungeons were hard to solo (they had lots of low-level monsters, eating up my spell slots), I was able to consistently solo up to around level 6. I gave DDO a rest to give the Champions beta a try.

Champions beta was a little more fast-paced, because of all of the mobs right there in town anywhere you wanted to go grind, but DDO is not a grind game. It's quest based. You don't even get xp for killing mobs, unless that's part of a quest and you complete the quest. I imagine that may turn some people off.

You can solo plenty. If you want a challenge, group up with friends. To me, it made the experience 10 times better when your foes don't take 1-2 hits to go down and actually hit you back.

Dl-ing here to my laptop at work at about 300-500k. Hopefully I will have a little time this weekend to check it out and group up with folks.

Edit: Is Sarlona the decided upon server?

Yes, Sarlona is the server. I've been on it for 2 days. No lags, no downtime. Haven't gotten a bad experience thus far with people I grouped.

Nice. Ill hop on at some point this weekend.

If I can re-partition the bootcamp on my Macbook and add some space, I might try this out.

It sounds like they went out of their way to address a lot of my issues with the original release.

Getting free DDO points is a pain in the ass. I've played over 12 hours and I only have 75! You need at least 3-400 points to get anything good!

What the hell are free DDO points?

Make sure to create your guys on the Sarlona server!

My son informs me it's 2% downloaded. Whee.

Dave said:

What the hell are free DDO points?

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To unlock extra races, classes, quests, weapons, armor and other such things... you need DDO Points. This can be done one of two ways: Buying them for real money, or by doing Favor quests, which will give you points sometimes.

Why does this matter? Because we need 250 to form a guild.

It's a single purchase, alas.

Tinwhistler said:

When you do dungeons (instances), you have 4 levels of difficulty to choose from: Solo, normal, hard, and extreme.

DDO is not a grind game. It's quest based. You don't even get xp for killing mobs, unless that's part of a quest and you complete the quest.

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Wow... ok yeah I'm interested now and will be downloading when I get home. :uhhuh:

AshburnerX said:

To unlock extra races

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Please tell me the warforged are still available from install...

TeKeo;253026][quote=AshburnerX said:

To unlock extra races

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Nope. But I imagine that all the races/classes are already unlocked for anyone who actually bought the game, though I could be wrong.

Dl'd on the laptop, getting on pc now

Installed, etc. Though, since I have a turbine account, this is a pain in the ass. Had to submit a ticket, to get them to send off a key to the email. jesus.

Even I am going to give it a try this weekend, need a break from WoW. I will try to see you guys online.

We should do a quick list of everyone's mains. I'm Grahblox Alebaron, lvl 3 Dwarf Fighter.

Does anyone know if prestige classes are in the game for later on down the line?

I'm Game-crash McUnplayable.

Very irritating.

patching now..I haven't played in a couple months.
Should have my Sarlona character up soon.

Edrondol. Level 2 Human Rogue.

Played for about 30minutes, could not stand the way players and npcs "glide/slide" around.

Did however love the opening instance with the "DM" talking to you as if you were in a real D&D session though.

In now - ToughActin Tinactin - level 1 paladin

Fendrel Drake, Warforged Barbarian, at your service.

Shegokigo said:

Played for about 30minutes, could not stand the way players and npcs "glide/slide" around.

Did however love the opening instance with the "DM" talking to you as if you were in a real D&D session though.

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He actually does that in every instance, if something interesting happens.

Currently trying to restore my Gaming PC from a worm infection. If I can manage that, I'll give this a try.

AshburnerX;253611][quote=Shegokigo said:

Played for about 30minutes, could not stand the way players and npcs "glide/slide" around.

Did however love the opening instance with the "DM" talking to you as if you were in a real D&D session though.

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He actually does that in every instance, if something interesting happens.[/QUOTE]

The game interests me on a whole. Though graphics are leaving much to be desired, and the player/npc animations are pretty weak. Also, I don't have a very strong standing knowledge of the D&D rules so I feel a bit "lost" in all the stats/feats/talents etc.

just played through the first 3 quests with Shannow, his roomie, and ashburner on all the difficulty modes...was a blast. Wiped a few times on Cannith Crystal on Elite as level 1, rank 1 newbs, but after we each got a couple ranks doing the others, we came back and it wasn't much of a challenge.

Now, I guess I gotta get voice up and going.

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oh, and I've created the uninspired-named guild, Halforums

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AshburnerX;252569][quote=Shegokigo said:

So wait, it's not solo friendly at all? rly:

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When your picking a build (if you take a generic build) it says how solo friendly it will be.

I made Dwarf Fighter named Grablox, but I'm probably going to be making something else. There are locked doors everywhere, so I'm ether making a Rogue, Wizard, Or Sorcerer. I fucking hate being unable to do quest objectives because my character can't do utility stuff. Damnit, why can't I just roll an Expert?

EDIT: Maybe we should all just try to get together sometime this weekend or next week, role up some new characters, and just play from there.[/QUOTE]


at least on the first island, all locked doors are optional (lead to a chest). If you find a locked door that blocks quest objectives, there's a key or lever somewhere in the dungeon.

Shegokigo;253655][quote=AshburnerX;253611][quote=Shegokigo said:

Played for about 30minutes, could not stand the way players and npcs "glide/slide" around.

Did however love the opening instance with the "DM" talking to you as if you were in a real D&D session though.

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He actually does that in every instance, if something interesting happens.[/QUOTE]

The game interests me on a whole. Though graphics are leaving much to be desired, and the player/npc animations are pretty weak. Also, I don't have a very strong standing knowledge of the D&D rules so I feel a bit "lost" in all the stats/feats/talents etc.[/QUOTE]

It's actually fairly simple once you get into it, as there aren't any Prestige Classes to take (though you can take more than one core class later). You can always stick to one of the generic builds until you get more familiar with the system, as you can stop leveling along the build at anytime. They aren't bad builds ether, if not optimized.

Definitely can this this as a fun of-wow game to play with folks. Need to get more abilities and learn the system a bit more, but It has possibilities.


BOOM! ToughActin Tinactin!

Cuyval Dar, Bard.
You have my lute.

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Dave said:

Edrondol. Level 2 Human Rogue.

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Not Turbo?

Cuyval Dar;253742][quote=Dave said:

Edrondol. Level 2 Human Rogue.

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Not Turbo?[/QUOTE]

Nope. It's usually taken so I never try.

I can't have DDO and this forum open at the same time (long story) so can you please friend Silbeth and shoot me a message when I'm on? Or in-game mail, if that's doable.

Is there a way to make the UI less clunky? Playing a healing cleric is irritating the heck out of me.

It works fine for me. Besides, you really don't get a whole lot of mana to cast spells in this game... your going to be burning through it pretty quick as a healer.

Kantankerous Grundt

Yes I had trouble coming up with a name.

Dwarf Ranger

Well, I'm enjoying it. I have next to no idea what I'm doing (Cuyval was helpful with explanations) so I'm just picking what seems good until I know better how to play. I took one level of rogue on my ranger just so I could throw points into lockpicking. I've been doing most of the dungeons on solo but normal isn't too bad either.

Yeah, it's not beautifully polished, visually, but that's not a major concern for me. I really like the variety of the dungeons (the floor puzzle was especially fun) and the fact that you can actually use battle tactics to your advantage.

In this game, do they still charge you double for a cross class skill, if one of your classes has it as a class skill? I.E. If I wanted lock picking, would I only get full price for points on levels I raise it as a rogue?

Kehk the Cleric has been created. Anyone on at the moment?

We seem to have a glut of clerics at the moment... anybody interested in rolling an Arcane caster, Bard, or Monk?

I thought we only had 2 clerics (including me) I'll make a bard.

Edit: Kjorin the Bard has been created!

AshburnerX said:

We seem to have a glut of clerics at the moment... anybody interested in rolling an Arcane caster, Bard, or Monk?

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I was interested in making a wizard but, I'm having trouble getting into the flow of the game. I'll give it another shot tonight.

Regardless, we could use more support or direct damage. Or a Monk/Favored Soul if you want to roll one of those up. We just need more diversity.

dps paladin baby!

Alright, finally finished the stuff on Korthos, so I'm ready to start doing stuff in Storm Reach. Except the "Don't kill Kobolds while you run through their big ass base to steal a gem and THEN kill them" because that mission fucking sucks unless you can cast Invisibility or stealth it.

drinking and football now. waiting for giants game. ill try to hop on tonight to finish off the town storyline

Shegokigo;254018][quote=AshburnerX said:

We seem to have a glut of clerics at the moment... anybody interested in rolling an Arcane caster, Bard, or Monk?

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I was interested in making a wizard but, I'm having trouble getting into the flow of the game. I'll give it another shot tonight.[/QUOTE]

If you have anything specific you want info on, you can ask here or in a PM. I'll do what I can to help out.

I might make a bard again, or maybe a wizard. bard was kinda boring, but it did have its good points.

AshburnerX said:

In this game, do they still charge you double for a cross class skill, if one of your classes has it as a class skill? I.E. If I wanted lock picking, would I only get full price for points on levels I raise it as a rogue?

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Yeah, I believe that's the case. Ranger got lockpicking for free (1 point = 1 point) but they tell you when you're assigning points about the cross-class penalty.

I can pick locks already. Being a rogue rocks. Sneaking up on guys and attacking for x2 damage rules.

anyone can multiclass, too..next time you level, just choose a new trainer to go to. So if you're soloing and hate passing by locks, take ranger or rogue and pick some lockpicking and disable device points.

Tinwhistler said:

anyone can multiclass, too..next time you level, just choose a new trainer to go to. So if you're soloing and hate passing by locks, take ranger or rogue and pick some lockpicking and disable device points.

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That was exactly my thought. And since I don't intend to seriously multiclass, just lockpick, Cuyval advised me to do it early on. Now my question is, I know I won't be able to lockpick as well as a rogue unless I put more levels than I want into it, but how many points is "good enough," especially at lower levels? I trained one rogue level and put all five points into it but would be willing to train one more if I should.

it mostly depends on lock DC (difficulty class)..i don't know how high DCs go in this game.

In pen and paper AD&D, a standard difficulty lock would be about 10 DC, 15 for hard, and 20 for very tough. You'd roll a 20-sided die and add your Open locks points (skill + dex bonus). So, if you had 5 points of Open Lock and got, say +2 dex bonus, you'd have 7 in your open locks skill. You'd only have to roll a 3 on a d20 to open most average locks. That's about an 85% success rate.

Of course, there's no guarantee that the online game will have locks with DCs in those ranges.

Thanks, that's helpful. Well, I only just hit 2, so I guess I'll just wait and see if more points will be required.

I love the outdoor instances, which was something I enjoyed in Guild Wars too. So nice to be able to adventure without fighting over resources with people, and I like the little mini-XP awards for exploring and killing stuff.

Amorous Eyes said:

This game still confuses me to no end, doesn't help I never played D&D to begin with.
I'm having fun playing, but I do have a few questions.

The NPCs told me to go for chain mail and a mace.. I'm a Cleric Healer, I don't get it. I have armor with say 20% spell failure rating. I'm guessing that means I 'fizzle' my spells more often? Should I go for cloth or leather instead at the expensive of armor rating?

I swing a mace and I miss... a lot.. like 2 out of 10 swings I hit the mob with for 1-4 pts. Is this normal? Am I just too much of a noob still to get any proper hit rating?

I also have a wand thingee but that thing only has 50 charges and only seems to recharge once I *exit* the dungeon so I don't use it a lot. Am I doing it wrong? I didn't pick a melee class so why am I swinging a mace in chain mail?

I'm level 1 of 4 (rank 4), I wish I knew what that meant. Why are their ranks? What do they mean?

How the hell do you finish The Collaborator? I died in 10 seconds flat.

Right now I have like 25 platinum, is that a good amount? The tooltip says 10 of each makes 1 of the other. While that seems logical, it does not appear to make any sense at all when I look at my inventory. if 10 copper = 1 silver then why do I clearly have 1,000+ coppers alongside the silvers, gold, and plats?

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You get 1 Action Point to use for Enhancements each Rank. Once you have enough Ranks, you progress a level.

There are certain items you can get that raise your level cap.

Cuyval Dar;254221][quote=Amorous Eyes said:

This game still confuses me to no end, doesn't help I never played D&D to begin with.
I'm having fun playing, but I do have a few questions.

The NPCs told me to go for chain mail and a mace.. I'm a Cleric Healer, I don't get it. I have armor with say 20% spell failure rating. I'm guessing that means I 'fizzle' my spells more often? Should I go for cloth or leather instead at the expensive of armor rating?

I swing a mace and I miss... a lot.. like 2 out of 10 swings I hit the mob with for 1-4 pts. Is this normal? Am I just too much of a noob still to get any proper hit rating?

I also have a wand thingee but that thing only has 50 charges and only seems to recharge once I *exit* the dungeon so I don't use it a lot. Am I doing it wrong? I didn't pick a melee class so why am I swinging a mace in chain mail?

I'm level 1 of 4 (rank 4), I wish I knew what that meant. Why are their ranks? What do they mean?

How the hell do you finish The Collaborator? I died in 10 seconds flat.

Right now I have like 25 platinum, is that a good amount? The tooltip says 10 of each makes 1 of the other. While that seems logical, it does not appear to make any sense at all when I look at my inventory. if 10 copper = 1 silver then why do I clearly have 1,000+ coppers alongside the silvers, gold, and plats?

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Though I tried the trial for DDO about a month ago just before it became f2p I will try to answer the armour question. In D&D heavier armour imposes a Arcane Spell Failiure. Arcane is the key as Clerics use Divine magic so the percent chance should not have effect on your spells.

DDO questions

Amorous Eyes said:

Does that mean there are only 4 levels? It says 1 of 4...

If I get a point each rank, why did they add it? couldn't they have gone with a level system instead and give an action point each level instead of adding a sublevel?

I'm so not getting this..

Why can't level 2 be level 6? (5 ranks+1)?

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Most of my questions got answered by Baerdog in IRC. Thanks Baer!

Forgot a question though... The most infuriating one of all..

WHY can I not --left click select-- anything or anyone ?

Sometimes I see my mouse hover over a person and I see all kinds of boxes and options appear on the round thingee on the bottom right. But then as soon as I move the mouse I can't click any of it. Sometimes it'll even say trade.. WTF?

That is seriously confusing..

Haven't grouped yet so I can't really comment on that yet but I dread a lot of heals going the wrong way or self casted when I'm trying to heal someone else. I realize I can use F1-4 but to me that's not really intuitive. I'd rather click on a person (or mob) and then click o the appropriate spell/skill I wanna use.

I haven't figured out if I'm even attackingthe way I'm supposed to lol. Do I really just hover over the target and click spells? But my mouse needs to remain stationary on the target or I'll cast on someone else?

This is really confusing..

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First one: The Rank stuff is confusing, especially because it has no basis in D&D at all. Suffice to say, this game uses the exact same leveling mechanic as the pen and paper game, which is why the Ranks and levels don't match up. Ignore the ranks, only focus on levels. The little bubbles to the right of your XP bar will show you how many more ranks you need to level.

Second one: You need to right click on something to make it your target. This will aim your spells at that target, though keep in mind that doesn't mean the enemy can't move out of the way or take cover something. Keep in mind though, that since your a Cleric, you do have some melee chops too. Don't be afraid to whip out your mace and wail on somebody.

Amorous Eyes said:

This game still confuses me to no end, doesn't help I never played D&D to begin with.

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Yeah, it's a little easier to play if you've played D&D. Unlike WoW, D&D has about 20 pounds of sourcebooks if you play the pen and paper version, and a lot of what's going on in the game is straight from the pen and paper rules. I'll try to answer your questions as best I can.

Note, I use the standard D&D shortcut for dice notation: d20 = 20 sided die. 3d6 = roll 3 six-sided dice and add them together, etc.

• The NPCs told me to go for chain mail and a mace.. I'm a Cleric Healer, I don't get it. I have armor with say 20% spell failure rating. I'm guessing that means I 'fizzle' my spells more often? Should I go for cloth or leather instead at the expensive of armor rating?

Clerics usually specialize in medium armor and simple weapons. In "old" D&D, clerics couldn't use edged weapons. Though that restriction isn't really in the modern rules, the "chain mail and mace" mindset still lives on.

Magic comes in two classes: Arcane and Divine. Arcane magic requires the mage to move their body in certain ways and speak words of power in order to invoke magic. Heavier armor is also clumsier and can interfere with the perfect performance of spells, causing them to fizzle. Divine magic has no such restrictions, requiring only the prayer to a higher power to be effective. So, your chain mail is fine

• I swing a mace and I miss... a lot.. like 2 out of 10 swings I hit the mob with for 1-4 pts. Is this normal? Am I just too much of a noob still to get any proper hit rating?

This is pretty normal. If you had a high strength, you'd hit more often and do more damage. In the pen-and-paper version of the game, Armor Class is derived from how much and what type of armor you are wearing: 10 + armor bonus + shield bonus + Dexterity modifier + size modifier. You roll a d20, add your attack bonus (usually from strength), and compare it to your opponent's armor class. Most monsters probably have 12-16 AC right now.

At level 1, your attack bonus based on level is 0. If your strength is 8, you get -1 to that. 0 at 10. +1 at 12, etc.

So, you'll probably be missing 75% or more of the time given the above math. That'll change considerably as you go up in levels, as each "base attack bonus" point you get gives you about a 5% chance better to hit any given target.

By level 20, you'll have a +15 base attack bonus, and should have powerful magic weapons and spells that can add a great deal more to that. It's a different theory than WoW. In Wow, you almost never miss, but do less damage as a level 1. In D&D, your damage doesn't ramp up as you level so much as your ability to hit does.

Maces do 1d6 damage. If you have the "ember" mace from the tutorial, you can get +1 fire damage on top of that. If you didn't change your starting strength from 8, you get -1. Every 2 strength points gives you an additional +1, up to +4 damage at 18 strength.

• I also have a wand thingee but that thing only has 50 charges and only seems to recharge once I *exit* the dungeon so I don't use it a lot. Am I doing it wrong? I didn't pick a melee class so why am I swinging a mace in chain mail?

Most wands don't recharge. If your wand says "eternal", it will recharge once per day. DDO has made it so that when you exit a dungeon, you get all your hp and daily powers back, as if you've rested. This is a change from when I played it a couple months ago. If it's a "finger of flame" wand, it only does 1-3 damage, so I wouldn't use it much. It's practically worthless.

• I'm level 1 of 4 (rank 4), I wish I knew what that meant. Why are their ranks? What do they mean?

You can go up to level 20 in the game. Right now, your level cap is 4, but you can get items to increase it.

Ranks do not exist in the pen and paper game. They're a way to give you "mini levels" between each of the big levels. Each rank gives you some 'action points' you can spend to customize your character a little. These are 'mini feats', that also have no real basis in the game.

However, without these ranks, I think DDO would probably lose a lot of the WoW crowd that is used to getting a level every hour or so of game play. I think they're a good idea.

• How the hell do you finish The Collaborator? I died in 10 seconds flat.

It can be challenging if you're not used to soloing. As a cleric, you should proably have "summon monster I" as a spell. Use it a lot in this quest. It summons a 'celestial dog' which is a pretty powerful ally to help kill enemies and keep them from swarming you. If you're still having trouble, get a hireling, and bring him along. I suggest the barbarian.

• Right now I have like 25 platinum, is that a good amount? The tooltip says 10 of each makes 1 of the other. While that seems logical, it does not appear to make any sense at all when I look at my inventory. if 10 copper = 1 silver then why do I clearly have 1,000+ coppers alongside the silvers, gold, and plats?[/QUOTE]

If you pick up coppers, the game won't auto-convert them to silver. So if you pick up 1000 individual copper pieces, that's how much you'll have. Just be glad that coins have no weight. In pen-and-paper AD&D each coin was roughly 1/10 of pound, so 1000 coppers would be 100 pounds of coinage adding to your encumberance!

25 platinum would be an exhorbitant amount for beginning players in the pen-and-paper game. I'm finding that in the online game, it's not so much.

Folks up to play again tonight?

I'm in, baby!

I almost understood most of that Tin. Thanks for the info.

Anyone have a mini guide for Wizard that I can peruse?

Shegokigo said:

I almost understood most of that Tin. Thanks for the info.

Anyone have a mini guide for Wizard that I can peruse?

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Being a Wizard is more about choosing the right spells for everyday use than it is about building your character. As a wizard, your going to want a high INT (Your going to want to max this) and above average Dex and Con. You'll want to focus on feats that improve your spells (usually -blank- Spell) or help you not get hit. Not sure what to get for skills... definitely Concentration to prevent your spells from getting interrupted. Spellcraft was pretty useful in the tabletop... Tumble might be a good option too.

You might also want to look at Sorcerers... they don't vary too greatly from Wizards, but generally have more spell points, but less available spell types. They can also use more types of weapons.

Sorceror's seemed more about fast, quick spells with less "oomph".

Wizard is more "customizable" from what I've read and really can "specialize" which appeals to me most.

Just curious, do spells like "charm humanoid" base off CHA or somethingelse? I really like the thought of a "witch" style Wizard with Charm abilities.

charm spells work well, unless you're in one of those adventures (like cannith crystal) that say "kill X of this creature" and then they only give you exactly X. If you charm one, you can't kill it (though I have read that they recently added a 'remove charm' feat to get past this problem).

Charm doesn't use CHA. It's magic, not a charisma based skill. Your target gets a periodic Will save to break free.

Shegokigo said:

Sorceror's seemed more about fast, quick spells with less "oomph".

Wizard is more "customizable" from what I've read and really can "specialize" which appeals to me most.

Just curious, do spells like "charm humanoid" base off CHA or somethingelse? I really like the thought of a "witch" style Wizard with Charm abilities.

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Actually, the 3.0 Dungeon Masters Guide actually used "Witch" as an example of a custom made class. It didn't have any of the overt magics that Wizards and such would use to kill people, instead focusing mainly on charms, divination, and such. It was an interesting concept.

It's also not something you'd probably get invited into a lot of parties with. If your a Wizard, people are going to ether expect utility (Knock for locked doors, buffs and such) or for you to call down the thunder with attack spells. It's the same boat that Clerics are in... the MMO mindset says that Clerics are for healing and Buffing, despite the fact that Clerics are hands down the most versatile class in D&D. About the ONLY thing they can't do is pick a lock.

More about lockpicking. I was doing Sacrifices and was in the big room with the bridges and the cells. There was a lever to open a passage to an optional boss, but it said it was locked. I tried a couple of times and figured my lockpicking wasn't high enough.

Later, I came back and tried it again, and was suddenly able to unlock it. Since I did a bunch of stuff in between, I don't know if I unlocked it during the rest of the quest, or if by continuing to click the lever I kept "rolling" and eventually beat the odds.

If it's the latter I'm just going to click-click-click every lock I can't pick.

The witch idea I had would have been something of a mix between damage and charm. I mean, no point in charming something if you can't kill it after it's done killing it's comrades.

Something like Everquest's enchanter to help with groups. Mezmerizing targets, or holding them in place so that a large group of npcs becomes more manageable for the group etc.

Shegokigo said:

The witch idea I had would have been something of a mix between damage and charm. I mean, no point in charming something if you can't kill it after it's done killing it's comrades.

Something like Everquest's enchanter to help with groups. Mezmerizing targets, or holding them in place so that a large group of npcs becomes more manageable for the group etc.

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Hold and Mez are definitely a big part of the Wizard spell list. If you want control, you'll definitely find stuff you'll like.

you can also tab to cycle through enemies you're facing.

That big spider is hard to kill if you stand right there where the frost jets blow on you. Those can kill a level 1 in 1 hit Best bet is to draw the spider back down the little waterfall and take him out down there. Then you can time the frost trap and jump up on the platform between blasts.

Created a Cleric, Horat D'Good. I'm level 2 right now, but I figured I should have a couple of options (healer, tank, etc) depending on what the party needs. And since I am still on VIP, I have 10 character slots.

I'm glad I rerolled a Bard now.
:bard: Yeah, Bard smilie!

I gotta know more about this "bewitching" wizard template stuff.

Ed get online, we need a rogue.

We need a vent or something too, this game is bad ass.

I hate this game and it's support.

I'm easy enough to pick out by my name....

Singularity.EXE said:

Ed get online, we need a rogue.

We need a vent or something too, this game is bad ass.

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We have a Vent.

chi4.ugt-servers.com
port: 21169

Amorous Eyes;255228][quote=Singularity.EXE said:

Ed get online, we need a rogue.

We need a vent or something too, this game is bad ass.

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We did pretty good for duo'ing.

I've encountered quite a few traps, is it a good idea to pick up thieves tools and start disabling them? Do I need to train anything to be able to do so?

I still like being a pure healer, though I'm still confused by a few things. [/QUOTE]

You need to take a level in Rogue to be able to get the skill to disarm traps. It's a useful skill, but if your becoming a Rogue, it's probably going to be to unlock doors, not disarm traps.

Sorry guys! I was on last night for a while and nobody came in so I made a new toon to play around with. Korden the Warforged Fighter is now almost 3rd level in one night of play! I was kicking everything's ass and the only thing that can touch me is magic. I can stand and scratch my ass while creatures try and beat on me but they can't touch me. I have damage reduction 3/adamantine, 3/cold, 3/slashing and 1/-. I'm pretty sure they don't stack but either way they'd have to hit me with an adamantine/cold/slashing weapon to hit me fully. I'm also immune to disease, poison and I don't breathe so I can swim forever.

I can't open locked doors which pisses me off, but I like the character.

Dave said:

Sorry guys! I was on last night for a while and nobody came in so I made a new toon to play around with. Korden the Warforged Fighter is now almost 3rd level in one night of play! I was kicking everything's ass and the only thing that can touch me is magic. I can stand and scratch my ass while creatures try and beat on me but they can't touch me. I have damage reduction 3/adamantine, 3/cold, 3/slashing and 1/-. I'm pretty sure they don't stack but either way they'd have to hit me with an adamantine/cold/slashing weapon to hit me fully. I'm also immune to disease, poison and I don't breathe so I can swim forever.

I can't open locked doors which pisses me off, but I like the character.

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Sorry aboutt hat. I got to watchiong football, and forgot about the game :/

I was on, but i was leveling my new cleric toon. i made Edrondol an officer in the guild, so he can guild anyone who comes on.

I'm the defacto guild leader, simply because I had the points to start it, but I'd be happy to officer anyone or everyone from here or even hand the guild leadership to someone else, as well. My play time is going to be at sporadic intervals, so I won't always be available to guild everyone or perform much of a real leadership role.

Also, if we all hooked up on the halforums vent server while we were playing, it'd make it easier to locate each other when we are creating new toons

Yeah, using the HF vent will be the easiest way to go. Hopefully I will have some time tongiht after dinner to play.

Amorous Eyes said:

You don't breath?

lol

When I was playing with Sin.EXE I realized just how weak I was. He plays a barbarian and omg did he kill stuff fast.. Usually just 1 or 2 chops while I have to wail at it for 20 times. >..>

I play quite a bit but it's still rare to see someone on, of course I'm also eurotrash so that doesn't help either. :/

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I seemed to crit a lot as well, which is always sexy when you see a big "49 - Skull" pop up above the monster that was full health a minute ago.

And Ed, that is damn impressive, I'm still learning the game so I'm going to be a bit slower, but I bet we could kick some ass together.

My barbarian by the way is Mahdis Draesdaen, a Savage of the Wild chick.

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I'll be on the vent when I get home from work and school tonight. I wasn't aware we had one until just now, or else I would've been in it last night.

But yeah, Ame and I found the Manufactury, but weren't able to complete it since it seems like we need a rogue to unlock some doors.

Spent a good two hours on last night JUST customizing and playing through the first couple of instances. The customization system was ALOT more daunting than I expected and I think I'll probably go through a few encarnations of my "witch" before I'm settled.

On the bright side though, working with "Charm Person" in the instance "Defend the Crystal in Town Hall" was amazing. I'd charm an Acolyte and just mop up the melee npcs. Everytime it broke Charm, I'd just hit it again. I could DEFINITELY get used to this style of play. Though like I said, I have a feeling I may not be doing it right.... Example: I have no freakin clue what "Diplomacy" is supposed to do...

Shegokigo said:

Spent a good two hours on last night JUST customizing and playing through the first couple of instances. The customization system was ALOT more daunting than I expected and I think I'll probably go through a few encarnations of my \"witch\" before I'm settled.

On the bright side though, working with \"Charm Person\" in the instance \"Defend the Crystal in Town Hall\" was amazing. I'd charm an Acolyte and just mop up the melee npcs. Everytime it broke Charm, I'd just hit it again. I could DEFINITELY get used to this style of play. Though like I said, I have a feeling I may not be doing it right.... Example: I have no freakin clue what \"Diplomacy\" is supposed to do...

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http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Skill:Diplomacy

Looks like it acts as a aggro-reducer. My barbarian has Intimidate which is supposed to be a Taunt, but I don't need no stinking Taunt. Also, my Charisma is like 8.

Shegokigo said:

Spent a good two hours on last night JUST customizing and playing through the first couple of instances. The customization system was ALOT more daunting than I expected and I think I'll probably go through a few encarnations of my "witch" before I'm settled.

On the bright side though, working with "Charm Person" in the instance "Defend the Crystal in Town Hall" was amazing. I'd charm an Acolyte and just mop up the melee npcs. Everytime it broke Charm, I'd just hit it again. I could DEFINITELY get used to this style of play. Though like I said, I have a feeling I may not be doing it right.... Example: I have no freakin clue what "Diplomacy" is supposed to do...

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You use diplomacy as a skill to convince mobs to target someone else instead of you. It's the inverse of intimidate, which can actually make mobs target you instead of someone else. I really have no idea if it's valuable or not, but there are definitely better choices at least.

And yeah... I tried sending you a message last night but you didn't respond! *shakes fist*

So it's basically like a "redirect" the monster's agro to say, the tank? As in, worthless if you're solo?

I was thinking it could be used on NPCs or used to have monsters fight each other... See what I mean about needing to remake this character multiple times?

As for the message thing Ash, I'm still getting used to the UI and really don't pay much attention to the chat box as most of it is just idiot spam...

Shegokigo said:

So it's basically like a "redirect" the monster's agro to say, the tank? As in, worthless if you're solo?

I was thinking it could be used on NPCs or used to have monsters fight each other... See what I mean about needing to remake this character multiple times?

As for the message thing Ash, I'm still getting used to the UI and really don't pay much attention to the chat box as most of it is just idiot spam...

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Well if you're charming monsters and redirecting them, maybe you can use Diplomacy in order to sway them into attacking your pet?

Singularity.EXE;255329][quote=Amorous Eyes said:

You don't breath?

lol

When I was playing with Sin.EXE I realized just how weak I was. He plays a barbarian and omg did he kill stuff fast.. Usually just 1 or 2 chops while I have to wail at it for 20 times. >..>

I play quite a bit but it's still rare to see someone on, of course I'm also eurotrash so that doesn't help either. :/

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I seemed to crit a lot as well, which is always sexy when you see a big "49 - Skull" pop up above the monster that was full health a minute ago.

And Ed, that is damn impressive, I'm still learning the game so I'm going to be a bit slower, but I bet we could kick some ass together.

My barbarian by the way is Mahdis Draesdaen, a Savage of the Wild chick.

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I'll be on the vent when I get home from work and school tonight. I wasn't aware we had one until just now, or else I would've been in it last night.

But yeah, Ame and I found the Manufactury, but weren't able to complete it since it seems like we need a rogue to unlock some doors.[/QUOTE]

Turn the valve in the rest area. That will unlock the crystal door. No rogue needed on this level unless you want at the nice chest in a cage near there.

Generally speaking, you only need rogues (or Arcane casters with Knock) to get to bonus chests and to finish secondary objectives. I've never seen a mission that REQUIRED a Rogue to complete it.

Are there many updates you need to download after installing?

None.

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Or at least I don't think so. My son said it was really fast.

Cool, I may be able to hop on tonight if there aren't.

I'll be in Vent as I do my reading if anyone wants to play.

I really need to study these feats, abilities, skills some more before making a final decision on a character....

I think you can reset ability points.

Bastards! Get online now and appease me! My name is Mahdis in case anyone has forgotten.

Sorry, I don't DDO till my WoW time is done. Plus I'm really trying to research the kind of wizard I want to create.

Singularity.EXE said:

Bastards! Get online now and appease me! My name is Mahdis in case anyone has forgotten.

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I've been on every day.

ZenMonkey;255731][quote=Singularity.EXE said:

Bastards! Get online now and appease me! My name is Mahdis in case anyone has forgotten.

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I've been on every day.[/QUOTE]

Are you on right now? I don't see you. =(

No, but will definitely be on later. Our goddamn Internet went down right when I was in the middle of that last, long-ass quest in the snowy area of Korthos (after doing all the climbing around), so I'm going to have to do it all over again. At least I can up the difficulty this time.

Well I'm getting called into a WoW raid, I'll try and make it short and sweet.

Welp, nevermind. Back into DDO.

Updates!
I'll let it go overnight and try it again tomorrow.

Korden will be on right after I pee and eat. Yes, in that order. I'll wash my hands.

Amorous Eyes said:

I noticed no updates apart from *maybe* a tiny 10 second one? It was fast anyway.

AshburnerX said:

I think you can reset ability points.

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Someone told me you get unlimited respecs, you just need to spend gold of which the amount is based of your character level not how many times you've respecced.

I'll be on again in a bit, not everyone is in the Halforums guild (yet) making it a tad tough to find people when they're playing alts.

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I've promoted a few people to officer.
Officers can /guild recruit <name> to get folks into the guild when I'm not around. I will take any suggestions for more officers, also.

So anyone getting an error when trying to make an account? And is the free limited to NA, coz i heard some rumours about that when i asked about it around...

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So anyone getting an error when trying to make an account? And is the free limited to NA, coz i heard some rumours about that when i asked about it around...

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No errors and I have no idea if it's limited to North America. That would suck for you guys, though!

So, anyone kind enough to make me an account?!

Dave said:

Korden will be on right after I pee and eat. Yes, in that order. I'll wash my hands.

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You're such a liar.

so their site just hates me... figures.

Ok. I am playing on Cannith right now (new server) Name I am using Xircon, Cormian, and Tilania

Stats - these are fixed. You cannot respec so choose wisely.

Feats - You can exchange 1 feat every 3 days using gold and sibryl shards (level of
shards depend on your level. Flawed which is 100 fragment for level 1-4 and it goes 1000 for 5-8, 10,000 for 9-12 etc etc.

enhancement - these are action points you get per rank. You can respec these once every 3 days also (I think or was it one day. I don't respec that much) and it cost you gold to do it (depending on level)

Wands - There are two types of wands. Eternal and regular. Eternal wands recharge overtime (1 charge/min I think) and it auto refill when you rest. You get one at the beginning of the game if you choose it and some quests give you also. You will see 50/charges/day or something like that.

Spells - Spells comes in two flavor. Arcane and Divine. Arcane are the only class of spells that will fail when using armor with Arcane failure. (Wizard and sorcerer) there are some enhancement that will negate this feat and only certain race have them (drow, elves, and warforge that I know of) Summoning monster I exist on divine AND arcane. you can pick it when you rest or an inn ONLY if you are Cleric or Wizard. You can only change 1 spell per 3 days if you are favored soul or sorcerer (thus choose carefully)

difficulty - most quest can be solo (and some solo is not available but it is doable on normal) if you need help but no one is around or you want to play with, hireling is a good way to do this. They cost a little gold (don't buy the store one) they last 1 hour after you activate it. This means that you cam resummon them after you leave the dungeon/instance. There is a 5 min cooldown between summons.

If y'all have any questions, feel free to ask.

You forgot that Bards are Arcane casters as well.

Someone mind writing down the template for starting a new character? I want to get a head-start on what I'm going to settle on when I get home.

As in, how many feats/abilities/stats etc I can choose from when rolling a new one.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Home

this is a good site to start in terms of what class gets what.

ash: I always forget about bards. Bards are actually pretty good in DDO.

Well I meant more like a "template" that players get when they start so I can pick and choose from the wiki ahead of time.

Like do we get 2 or 3 feats to start? 1 or 2 Abilites? 4-5 Spells? etc.

1 normal feat, 2 if you choose Human as your race.

Dave said:

1 normal feat, 2 if you choose Human as your race.

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Also you can get a class feat.

Wizard get a metamagic feat at level 1. Warrior get another at 1

so if you make a human wizard, you will get to pick 2 feats + 1 metamagic feat (or you can pick 3 meta magic but 1 of them HAVE to be metamagic)

Warrior's feat limit to attacks (of course)

all character starts with 28 points. (unless you buy a drow or unlock it or you manage to unlock 32 point build - not buyable)

Spells. So far the sorcerer are limit to pick spells they can cast. I usually max the stats so sorc get 3 spells to start.

Wizard can pick up to 7. Bard I think pick 2, cleric get all and just have to "memorize"

I'm in as a human fighter, Kyalami Silverstone.

Only just started. Got my sword and headed to the dungeon entrance. I'll check it out later tonight after the full download is complete and I get home from Photoshop class.

Shegokigo said:

Well I meant more like a \"template\" that players get when they start so I can pick and choose from the wiki ahead of time.

Like do we get 2 or 3 feats to start? 1 or 2 Abilites? 4-5 Spells? etc.

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My read-fu sucks today

here is a planner
http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO/DDOCharGen.html (there is a newer version you can download and plan all the way to level 20)

So, no one want to make me an account?


Well i'm going to bed, but if anyone want to, just put in


10x.

Hey Shego, if you want to do some kind of versatile caster based on charisma, maybe a Bard could work for you? Their spellcasting is based off Cha, but I don't know how their spell list works.

Sorcerers use CHA also. They don't get as many spells as a Wizard but they cast those they do have more often.

Nah, I like the versatility of Wizard. Teleportation, open doors, etc. Thanks for the thought though!

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Sorcerers use CHA also. They don't get as many spells as a Wizard but they cast those they do have more often.

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D'oh!


I think I'll download it tonight and try it out when I can. Maybe roll a cleric for soloing (Since I like druids and I guess it's the closest thing) or maybe a wizard. The thing is I like casters but also being able to change my spells every day so yeah.

Amorous Eyes,

Yup. The Wizard class is very versatile. At level 1 you can only cast 3 spells, BUT you are correct, when you hit a rest shrine, you can switch out those three spells to anything else before you attack anything else (you get a spell switch icon which is like a quarter magic circle symbol)

Wizards can also scribe more spells into their spellbook via buying inscription materials (cost like 140g for level 1 and 480g for level 2 BASE cost before haggle check) and you can scribe new spells into your book. You can buy scrolls at the marketplace which is locate in the middle of the market (new tent, can't miss it)

When you level up as a wizard you get to pick up NEW spells for FREE so choose wisely. I do believe you can pick up 2 spells (only level 3 wiz so far so I get to pick 2 each time I level) and you can choose spells from ANY levels you have access to. I recommend scribe any spells you find scrolls for so you can be versatile in an instance.

Here are some of the cool spells you can use in the early levels.

Level 1
Hypnotism - this is an Area effect spells (AoE for short to those who are new) This is a GREAT crowd control in early levels. It is essentially "sleep" so they stay imobile until you hit it (or your team mate hits it)

Summon Monster I - This is a good companion and "hidden mob" detector. They can see hidden monster and will start running off and attack it. It only last one minute and have 1 minute cool down (except sorcerer which STILL last 1 minute but only 30 second cool down)

Niac's Ice ray - this is probably one of the most powerful 1st level attack spell (requires a save) and does pretty good damage early to those not immune to ice (like ice mephits)

Magic Missiles - well.... who doesn't want to attack the darkness with magic missiles.

Level 2 spells
Web - this is probably going to be the best spell in groups. Mainly anything that runs thru it will have to make a save or be stuck (and can't attack back or cast spells) this is great against all kinds of mob unless they are immune to web (rare)

Tips on bonus items.

Here are the following in terms of what bonus stacks

Stats
feats
enhancement
item bonus + competence bonus

You can only have ONE of each to count. So if you have a glove that gives +1 dex and +2 dex, you only get the +2 dex

now you can spend action points to enhance your dex (depending on class and race) it stacks so lets say you spend 2 points to get +1 dex, wearing an item that gives +2 dex, you will have +3 dex to your base dex.

Tomes add permanently to your stats so it falls under stats. if you eat a tome (yes eat it literally) like a +1 tome, then from above you will have +4 dex. Now, the tomes follow the same rule. If you eat a +1 dex tome and a +2 dex tome you only get TOTAL +2 dex from tomes and then +1 enhancement and +2 item.

Attack bonus works the same way.
Stats = you BAB base. Normally you get +1 per level. Feats DO stack since those are spend upon level.

One of the coolest item to get in the beginning for combat type is goggles of insight which gives +1 compentence bonus to hit which mean it will WORK WITH anger set which gives +2 to hit (or pathfinder set) that means +3 to hit at level 1 kinda nice eh? not including any enhancement or stats bonus. (which is strength base)

I might make a wizard myself here tonight since I might be getting my sister and father into the game. More of you bastards need to login though, Ame and I got trashed last night at Gnashtooth.

Isn't that where we got trashed the night before?

Now. Here is a section for those who like to solo (cause sometimes it is just fun)

The best classes to solo is rogue 2/mage 18 (eventually)

melee class are not very good to solo at high level, but high DPS class like monk/ranger is one of the best since you can use healing wands and get most of the benefits.

monk/barbarian is another great two-handed weapon DPS king (so I'm told)

Why rogue/mage combo is good?

start with rogue, the high int will help you to keep up the skills of disable devices and search (cross class for wizard) and 2nd level rogue gets evasion (pick up at level 9) Wizard is good cause they get firewall at level 7 wizard and with evasion, you can pretty much jump around and cast spells and survive a lot of normal level instances by yourself. with ability to spot, search, open lock and disable devices, there isn't much you can do (except you can't heal unless you are a warforge then you are self healing solo machine.

format:
usually pick rogue first to get the max bonus on skills. Max out search, spot, disable devices, and open lock. you can pick other skills as you see fit (like concentration, diplomacy and such. stat wise you should have at least 16 dex and 16 int. you can go higher int, but that means less stats for other stuff. Then you pick wizard from 1 to 7 (which makes you level 8 and then pick rogue again at level 9 (get evasion) and wizard the rest. Spells you pick what you like to use the most. The cool part about wizards is that you can switch out spells when you are at an inn or rest shrine (after you rest)


Warforge (WF) is a popular build for this. Wizard gets repair spell which essentially is a heal spell for WF. WF starts with 6 on cha and wis which you might want to put some stats into Wis for magical defenses. cha is your dump stat (unless you want to use more diplomacy/haggle which are cha) WF are immune to poison and paralyze. This helps A LOT when solo. If you pick up weapon finess (which only effects light weapon) you can take advantage of your high dex for hand to hand to save mana. It is pretty awesome combo for solo.


There are benefits for pure class when you hit 20 but sometimes people just want to play to have fun.

I will try to post other templates later.

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I will make a monk/ranger character tonight. Do we have a guild yet? I can make one and send out sigils for people.

I believe Knock is a level 2 spell and it's definitely worth getting if you like to solo, for opening up locked doors.

Yeah, we have a guild. What time are you getting on tonight?

Dave said:

Isn't that where we got trashed the night before?

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Aye, we went the other direction though and got trashed by about +40 kobolds. I think I we could've done it except for that damn fear. Also, we got ambushed as we were heading down a ramp, and managed to get surrounded.

Sounds like you guys could have used a "crowd control" Witch.... :slywink:

hmmm... looks like you might need a healer more than a DPSer I can create a cleric instead (which I don't have one) I'll PM you dave with the name once I create her (or him) I haven't decided it.

Shegokigo said:

Sounds like you guys could have used a "crowd control" Witch.... :slywink:

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I would love for a crowd control witch! Right now my battle strategy goes as follows:

1. Open door.
2. Charge blindly into room.
3. Kill everything.

Questions:
1. Did y'all skip tutorial yet? also, did you leave the island yet? (makes a difference if I can play with you or not.

2. What is the group makeup we have right now? need healer? dps? tank? or magic users?

I can make and play any characters needed by the group.

Chibibar said:

Questions:
1. Did y'all skip tutorial yet? also, did you leave the island yet? (makes a difference if I can play with you or not.

2. What is the group makeup we have right now? need healer? dps? tank? or magic users?

I can make and play any characters needed by the group.

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There really is not unity in where we currently are. I know Ame, Ed and I are on Stormreach but I'm not sure where everyone else is at. I think we're rather low on magic users at the moment, most of us are fighters, rogues and clerics, so more boom in the magics would be nice.

Singularity.EXE;257174][quote=Chibibar said:

Questions:
1. Did y'all skip tutorial yet? also, did you leave the island yet? (makes a difference if I can play with you or not.

2. What is the group makeup we have right now? need healer? dps? tank? or magic users?

I can make and play any characters needed by the group.

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There really is not unity in where we currently are. I know Ame, Ed and I are on Stormreach but I'm not sure where everyone else is at. I think we're rather low on magic users at the moment, most of us are fighters, rogues and clerics, so more boom in the magics would be nice.[/QUOTE]

I have a level 3 rogue/wizard right now I can use that. His name is Xircon. I can join your guild if you send me a sigil (if y'all are level 3)

I'm level three, and I have invite powers, but what the hell is a sigil?

Also, I found a quest that gives a leveling sigil that grants access to level 5-8 for all of us still-free users.

Singularity.EXE said:

I'm level three, and I have invite powers, but what the hell is a sigil?

Also, I found a quest that gives a leveling sigil that grants access to level 5-8 for all of us still-free users.

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The leveling sigil is random, actually. Not everyone can get it from the same quest.

I'm level 3 right now and in Stormreach.

I have now paid the $15 a month. Trading 1 crack for another.

there are two type of sigils
leveling sigils for raising leveling cap.
the other is guild recruit sigils

the command is /guild recruitsigil this will create sigil that you can MAIL to your alts or other characters. Then all they have to do is click on it and tada! joined a guild

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Amorous Eyes;257195][quote=Singularity.EXE;257151][quote=Dave said:

Isn't that where we got trashed the night before?

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Aye, we went the other direction though and got trashed by about +40 kobolds. I think I we could've done it except for that damn fear. Also, we got ambushed as we were heading down a ramp, and managed to get surrounded.

Shegokigo said:

Sounds like you guys could have used a "crowd control" Witch.... :slywink:

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I would love for a crowd control witch! Right now my battle strategy goes as follows:

1. Open door.
2. Charge blindly into room.
3. Kill everything.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that was a lot of kobolds, lol. Fun though.
I had switched out my remove fear in favor of another spell, I'll be sure to put it back in.

Could definitely use a bit more crowd control![/QUOTE]

ah....... y'all are doing Kobold Assault. You need a full party for that one. It is a 15 minutes of non-stop kobold attacks (which can be fun) but you need a cleric/FvS for sure for remove fear buff.

That's actual an ingenious idea, I'll have to do that when I make my alt.

Yea. It is a pretty neat. I'll bring my mage/rogue with y'all tonight. We can do several runs of stuff.

Oh no, we were in the Wetworks, specifically Gnashtooth's Prison. On one side there is a prison with a huge swarm of kobolds, and the other side a CR4 kobold boss with about 15 buddies in the wings.

Singularity.EXE said:

Oh no, we were in the Wetworks, specifically Gnashtooth's Prison. On one side there is a prison with a huge swarm of kobolds, and the other side a CR4 kobold boss with about 15 buddies in the wings.

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Oh that one... yea. there is a little trick with that. If you use range and hit the 1st line. generally that will draw them in waves. I can run y'all and show you all the tricks (hope you have waterbreathing cause we are gonna need it) I'll double check and grab that spell if y'all don't have it.

I'm gonna try to make a monk tonight. We'll see if I have time though.

Shakey: one thing the game doesn't quite say is that in order for you to retain you Ki (you gain from combat) is concentration level. Whatever your concentration skill is (after all the bonus) that is the amount of Ki you can store between combat. It is VERY handy to have high concentration since stunning fist takes 15 ki (which I don't recommend you taking it early in the game since holding 15 ki is hard)

Another thing to think about is are you going Kama combat, quarter staff or fists (uses wraps) one of the feat to think about is weapon finesse since you will need high dex anyways. Remember weapon finesse effect the ability to HIT while damage is still strength.

Since you're being so helpful Chibi, and know the abilities a bit better, what kind of template should I be looking at for in a "crowd control, charm commanding with slight dps" Witch (wizard)?

Shegokigo said:

Since you're being so helpful Chibi, and know the abilities a bit better, what kind of template should I be looking at for in a \"crowd control, charm commanding with slight dps\" Witch (wizard)?

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Hmmm.. Pure Wizard can do pretty much all of that. The only difference is race. Since you are using free account, I would say human for the extra feat. the reason I chose wizard mainly it will give you the freedom to switch out your spells on the fly and EASIER to play than a sorcerer. Sorcerer DOES have faster casting speed and more mana BUT you can only switch one spell per 3 days which can get fustrating. Once you find the spells you like, I would let you decide which one you want to keep.


Starting spells (your 7)
Charm Person (works on kobolds and many humanoid creature, but not undead)
hynotism (this is just great everyone just stop and I'll get to you in a moment spell)
feather fall (this is handy at misery's peak but remember it is 1 target per caster's level)

you can choose your own attack spells like
summon monster I - this is a great spell to have another target for them to chase
niac's cold ray - this is an awesome spell to use to fight with
burning hand/acid spray - your choice, this is cone base attack spell. This is GREAT when you have a fighter tanking everything and you just burn/acid them all at once good times.

magic missile is nice in the future since they always hit (but can resist via spell resistance but that can be overcome in higher levels)

another class to think about is Bard. They are good Crowd control via songs AND spells (you get 3 song usage to start) later have great party buffs which are insane. They are CHA base and have a tons of skills to choose from. they can also cast charm spells and such but their magic is mix with divine and arcane.

Both classes above is better to be pure for most effectiveness, but if you want to splash a little rogue in (for the skills and evasion) it won't hurt since both would need high int (bard use cha also)

Races:
Human is best to get extra feat (3 in all for a wizard) I would suggest get extend and enlarge if you are planning to just crowd control ALOT. It does suck up the good ol mana since it cost +20 for both, but it is awesome when casting hypnotism. (they are activate feats) I would say toughness is another to take. Don't take mental toughness, you get a little boost in your mana but in the long run you need HP to survive since con might be dinged for points spend in int or cha (which ever you play)

Elf - you would get only 2 feats, but do get immunities like charm and sleep. This is handy plus bonus to dex (good since you will be wearing robes)

halfling is good

Warforge (paid) is good for a mage. You just need to pick up "Repair light" spell and guess what? self heal!!! it is awesome. If we have all warforge party, at higher level there are AoE version of this spell. They have tons of immunities (paralyze, poison, disease, energy drain) good stuff. but it is paid can be purchase via Turbine point or VIP sub.

Drow - this is essentially 32 point built in character. It is unlockable with 400 favor (which most people can get it when they hit around 7-8 level. They have good stats and good for bard or wizard and other classes. You can also buy this via turbine point.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Races - gives you an idea.

Stats
If you are going pure wizard, I would say either 16 or 18 Int. if you planning to splash in some other classes you might need some stats for that too.

main stats to think about
int - this is your mana pool AND how effective your spells. 18 is good if you are going pure.
Con - hp = good. (12 or 14)
Dex - you need this for dex bonus on armor and reflext save (12 at least for +1)
will - this is good for will base save spells (12 at least for a +1)
Cha - this is optional if you want to use diplomacy. It is a skill to tell the mob, "hey attack someone else" they can fail the check and randomly attack someone else... once every 6 second (activate skill not passive)
Str = this is essentially your "dump" stat, but remember, you need at least 10 str so you can carry all that loot you get from runs having 8 str sucks.

This look any good? I'm new to it so I'm not real sure on what all I should take.

normally I like to start out with even numbers mainly you don't have the +stat items yet (but you can find them later) so that is a toss up. Looks pretty good starting build I rarely use meditation for ki but 13 wis might drop to 12 and put the points somewhere else (probably con if possible) since how much Ki you can have is base on Con.

Dex is nice if you planning to go weapon finesse style but I say have 16 str first cause you are using pure hand to hand.

Remember that you can only have 1 form active at any given time

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normally I like to start out with even numbers mainly you don't have the +stat items yet (but you can find them later) so that is a toss up. Looks pretty good starting build I rarely use meditation for ki but 13 wis might drop to 12 and put the points somewhere else (probably con if possible) since how much Ki you can have is base on Con.

Dex is nice if you planning to go weapon finesse style but I say have 16 str first cause you are using pure hand to hand.

Remember that you can only have 1 form active at any given time

It wouldn't let me take weapon finesse at level one, I think I'm going to go with the Kama.

I got rid of Disciple of Breezes and went with Monk Concentration for my enhancement.

I also swapped my con and wis scores. Str take 3 points to up to 16, so I would have to drop 3 other skills to get it there.

Shakey said:

It wouldn't let me take weapon finesse at level one, I think I'm going to go with the Kama.

I got rid of Disciple of Breezes and went with Monk Concentration for my enhancement.

I also swapped my con and wis scores. Str take 3 points to up to 16, so I would have to drop 3 other skills to get it there.

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Yea... that is always a tough thing to do.

I always recommend don't go above 16 (cost too much where you can put points someplace else) if you DO want to hit 18, it is better to be in groups or REALLY know your character cause you are min/max yourself (like any other games)

Disciple of the Breeze is nice since you do get bonus to dex and AC but dps is fire hands down (pun intended)

Tips:
I am kinda sad that there are no higher level Barbarians anymore (there use to be not sure what happen to them)

BUT you can get a level 1 barbarian which is a boon to anyone who wants to play on normal. remember once you activate the contract, it will last 1 hour (real time when you are log in) and has a 5 minute cooldown (before you can summon again) this is universal cooldown for all contracts. So if you have like 5 contracts ALL are on the same cooldown.

Barbarian is a nice NPC to have. He is try to break EVERYthing if he is close enough. This is kinda good if you hate going out of your way to break stuff.

I personally bind the key "interact" to f mainly this will allow me to pick up stuff that is near me (with smart target on) without having to click. This also works on chest, lever and switches. Once I see it glow, I hit f. much faster.

getting most EXP out of the same quest.
You can repeat a quest UPto 3 times before getting a penalty BUT you can do higher level quest to get even more.

i.e. solo to hard gets bonus of +25%
so I would normally do this
run solo once (if you want to) then normal x2 (you get +25% then normal exp) then hard once (+25) and then elite if you have the chance (+50%) basically you are milking the exp if that is the route you want to take, but I can assure you there are enough quest to last you a while without having to repeat, but it is good thing to know.

set items - http://ddowiki.com/page/Unique_item_sets this will tell you what item set you can earn but doing the mayor quest (goggles, boots or gloves) and misery peak (necklace) note: you can ONLY get ONE necklace EVER. Even if you finish misery's peak multiple times. I know.. so choose wisely. magic users, I highly recommend getting the archivist necklace mainly for the mnemonic which restore SP for free (2 times per rest) of course you can do the mayor's quest (the aqueduct one) and you can use the item for bonuses but won't get the set bonus (which if you look some of those items are NICE)

one of the item I suggest is the anger boots. It is has 2 uses of expeditious retreat which is NICE to run away or run around town (btw, you can get item charges restore by sitting at an inn for couple of minute OR use a rest shrine)

protector's glove is another since it has 1/DR which means it s like invulnerable you just take 1 less damage. so if a mob does 1 damage then you take 0 damage (all my character has this until I find something better)

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newest patch notes some interesting changes
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Release_Notes_DDO_Unlimited_Patch_1_Official

Are there any addons you can get like WoW has?

Dave said:

Are there any addons you can get like WoW has?

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nope.. probably a good and a bad thing.

It is self contain.

On Sarlona as Fadey Holtim.

I have no idea how to find anyone of you.

Whoever can invite, please send a guild sigil to Allihandra so that way I can tell if anyone is one who are in the guild it will be easier that way.

You can create a guild sigil by typing /guild recruitsigil (if you are an officer)

She is going to be rogue/wiz. I figure I'll create a new chara to join y'all guild. edit: I'm playing on Cannith

edit... doh! I am making a new chara on Sarlona now name will be Allihandra. Send a guild invite to her.

Is there any way to patch other than through the launcher? With Wow I can at least download everything from a separate computer and not have to download it at home. It's taking an insane amount of time to patch and I have no idea how long it will take. Yeah yeah, dialup sucks ass and all that but at least I could play WoW within a day of installing. I don't know if it is timing out or what, but I don't think I'm even half way through fucking patching and I've been going for almost 2 days.

ok.. also made a guild on Cannith. I figure if y'all want to start out a fresh server, this is the place (still new server) economy is not totally bonk yet and I have friends who are high level can help us if we are "stuck"

We can either join up on Halforum or join my guild the Wandering Blades (run by 3 of my real life friends who are experts in DDO. one of my friend John play since beta until now)

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Shakey said:

Is there any way to patch other than through the launcher? With Wow I can at least download everything from a separate computer and not have to download it at home. It's taking an insane amount of time to patch and I have no idea how long it will take. Yeah yeah, dialup sucks ass and all that but at least I could play WoW within a day of installing. I don't know if it is timing out or what, but I don't think I'm even half way through fucking patching and I've been going for almost 2 days.

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I don't think there is an offline patcher I haven't found it on the support forum (quick look) but I always download via the client.

Well, I got Windows 7 tonight and will get Snow Leopard tomorrow, so as of this weekend if all goes well, my laptop will run DDO. Good for Silbeth; bad for my productivity.

Chibibar said:

I don't think there is an offline patcher I haven't found it on the support forum (quick look) but I always download via the client.

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I kinda figured that. I'd love to join you guys, but that's why I didn't get into SWGEMU. I'll let the launcher go again tonight, but if it ain't patched tomorrow I may give up.

I'm downloading the game right now. Just the standard client, hopefully it doesn't look poopy. Can't play the game yet though since I want the account tied to my current Turbine account and that requires help from support (Of course! Turbine has one of the stupidest, non functioning, account and billing management pages there is).

So I can start playing tomorrow or next week (crosses fingers) if they aren't too swamped with support tickets. I may make a dummy acount to fiddle and figure the gameplay out with, for now, if I don't hear from support tomorrow. Hope it's fun!

New character made on Cannith. If you can't guess my name, you don't deserve to see me ingame.

Amorous Eyes;258198][quote=Chibibar said:

ok.. also made a guild on Cannith. I figure if y'all want to start out a fresh server, this is the place (still new server) economy is not totally bonk yet and I have friends who are high level can help us if we are "stuck"

We can either join up on Halforum or join my guild the Wandering Blades (run by 3 of my real life friends who are experts in DDO. one of my friend John play since beta until now)

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Sin.EXE and I both rerolled our toons to join on the Halforums guild on Cannith, it's a fresh new server which means less influx of wow kiddies and not so much crazy billion gold amount prices on the auction house.

Having fun, redid all my stats/skills/feats to be more powerful as a Healing Cleric from the get go.

Chibi, when you get a chance can you please also make an me an officer so I can invite any other people who might wanna move over to Cannith? Thanks! [/QUOTE]

Done

jesus H Christ, so now its a new server?

I'm staying on Sarlona. I only play sporadically anyway.

Shannow said:

jesus H Christ, so now its a new server?

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My thoughts exactly. I thought I fucking lucked out getting a level sigil so early... now I'm going to have to re-roll AGAIN?! For fucks sake...

So are we moving over there? I do like the in game voice chat. Chibibar sounds nothing like I thought he would, but he moves through the game like a blur!

fade said:

So are we moving over there? I do like the in game voice chat. Chibibar sounds nothing like I thought he would, but he moves through the game like a blur!

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We're generally trying to avoid the in-game voice chat, because on some of our systems (mine for example *sigh*) it comes in too quietly to be audible. We use the Vent instead.

I've played around a bit with a few characters today and will roll a paladin on Cannith when the servers are back up again. I'm European so I probably will not be on at the same time as many of you, but it seems like we have a decent group playing on our side of the world as well. I will post my character's name when he is created, looking forward to playing with you!

Oh, and I really love the DM narrating during the quests!

*sigh* Kalvi Mojo on Cannith. Send me an invite when you get a chance.

Cannith, huh? *sigh*

Dave said:

Cannith, huh? *sigh*

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Yup. People just have to be difficult. Guess Ill roll a toon there over my lunch hour. Maybe a fighter.

I'm trying the Rogue/Mage thing. I enjoyed my Cleric, but I want to be able to solo effectively.

I'll make Fadey Holtim Bard there, too, I guess. Invite me if you see me.

Fiurad Ulvoga, bastion of all that is good and holy, is now alive and ready for adventure on the first island.

What's the Ventrillo server name?

It amuses me to no end, how people who were playing for about 2-3 days max are complaining about rerolling on a server, where there is a higher level forumite willing to help and able to get them past whatever they accomplished in a week, within a day or so.

Some of the names people are picking for their chars in this thread are terribly generic, where are you all getting them from? A random name generator?

ToughActin Tenactin is not generic! :humph:

Shegokigo said:

It amuses me to no end, how people who were playing for about 2-3 days max are complaining about rerolling on a server, where there is a higher level forumite willing to help and able to get them past whatever they accomplished in a week, within a day or so.

Some of the names people are picking for their chars in this thread are terribly generic, where are you all getting them from? A random name generator?

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I just had no idea why we were moving. If this is a new server I assumed there would be no high levels there. I further assume that this is Chibi's character that will be helping out.

fade said:

What's the Ventrillo server name?

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I found it. I think. Is it still chi4.ugt-servers.com? I'm in there, but no one else is (understandably).

Shannow said:

ToughActin Tenactin is not generic! :humph:

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I obviously wasn't referring to you then, was I?

Dave said:

I just had no idea why we were moving. If this is a new server I assumed there would be no high levels there. I further assume that this is Chibi's character that will be helping out.

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Again, if you weren't complaining, I wasn't talking about you directly! :slywink:

Do people read the stickies? VENT INFO HERE:

http://www.halforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9289

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Shegokigo said:

Dave said:

I just had no idea why we were moving. If this is a new server I assumed there would be no high levels there. I further assume that this is Chibi's character that will be helping out.

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Again, if you weren't complaining, I wasn't talking about you directly! :slywink:

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Well, he had the same replies as the rest of us, pretty much, so it is safe to assume he was! No nyah!

Shannow said:

Well, he had the same replies as the rest of us, pretty much, so it is safe to ass - u - me he was! No nyah!

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Quoted and edited for emphasis.

As far as the sticky is concerned, I have no idea how Vent works. For all I knew, that was a server specific to WoW or something. The problem with RTFM responses to help requests is that sometimes the manual may be clear to you, but not the newbie.

Ventrilo is a program that you download that allows you to chat voice with others.

For those who don't know what Ventrilo is, it's an online voice chat program you run. You will obviously need a headset with a mic or speakers & a standing mic to run it. You can download it here. It's free and easy to use.

In order to access the server, you need to first set up a User name by clicking on the -> button next to the User name selector. We generally go by our forum handles or some variation of them. You then need to click on the -> button next to Server. Put the following information in it's respective fields.

(Hostname or IP): chi4.ugt-servers.com
(Port Number): 21169

That's everything your going to NEED to do. Once you've done it, you can just log in and hopefully there will be someone there to talk to! One note though: You might want to go into the Setup menu and ether set the voice to \"Push to talk\" (You'll need to set a button for this) or \"Voice Activated\", depending on your preference. You can also adjust your outgoing volume or incoming volume if you desire that as well.

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Dave said:

Ventrilo is a program that you download that allows you to chat voice with others.

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The internet is a series of tubes.

Shegokigo;258443][quote=Shannow said:

Well, he had the same replies as the rest of us, pretty much, so it is safe to ass - u - me he was! No nyah!

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You are right. When i assume, it makes an ass of you, not me! :rouckout:

Now, to figure out a name for the new toon.....hmmmmm

Shannow said:

Now, to figure out a name for the new toon.....hmmmmm

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I'd suggest:

Erectile Dysfunction

or is that a bit too close to home? :slywink:

Blah blah, whatever. Not taking the bait.

Also, awesome new server! Seriously, I mean, wow! In the middle of the day, it has a queue of 342 and 20+ minutes! Sweet choice all!

Siska said:

Stuff!

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Woot! Turbines account managment has not failed to undeliver, yet again. I am unable to create a dummy account. After hitting submit on account creation page I get sent to this page ---> https://trial.turbine.com/index.php. And there if I click on the click here I get sent back to step one of create a new account <headdesk>. Checked my e-mail and tried just logging in, in case that was it, but no.

I'll try making an account again later, in case their account server is just down or some other temporary brain fart on their part. If not I guess I'll just have to wait for them to e-mail me a code. Of course, I have not recieved a confirmation e-mail that the ticket I sent has even been recieved, so I am stuck in the limbo of uncertanty on that front too.

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Blah blah, whatever. Not taking the bait.

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:sevil:

On the queue part: At least you know it's a busy and populated server? :bush:

Yeah. I only hope that its due to the downtime earlier today. If its worse during peak hours, then it is pointless. not that it matters, i guess. This wil be sporadic for me anyways.

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Oh for the love of. get in, and it says "For very high settings, you need to restart the application to apply a patch for very high textures"

back in queue again! :explode:

That's weird that it has a queue, it didn't have one when I logged in earlier. I think they are probably doing something with the servers, as it is only Friday afternoon.

Also, is Mahdis Draesdaen generic? I thought it was very awesome. =(

It's generic unless an explanation is given.

Created ToughActin on that server, though as a dual weilding barbarian elf!

Barbarian... Elf?

*has a mental image of a thin, lanky elf in a loincloth*

:explode:

Well.. the idea is that I have a guild here who are well verse in DDO. If we need help levelng (or just need start up money) it is easier with this server. I already have a level 7 favored soul that heals very well and have good equipment to help anyone. We can run instances/dungeon faster and better.

Also on new server, you tend to be able to find groups for low level stuff easier. I notice when I started on Arg, it was hard to find any decent group. Right now everyone is trying to pass the low level stuff to get to the high level stuff

I can start sending money and stuff to people who needs it once we get off the island (finishing misery and end up on sunny side)

also since I am not sure how many of you might stay after a month or so, all the time invested in the character I can use with other guilds if it doesn't take off.

Amorous Eyes said:

Dazzling Star needs no explanation.

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I got no qualms with descriptive names! -

Shegokigo said:

Barbarian... Elf?

*has a mental image of a thin, lanky elf in a loincloth*

:explode:

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My barbarian is a short middle-eastern woman. Mahdis is the Persian word for "Moon-like" and the last name; Draesdaen is the name of the town she was born in (as was customary centuries, your surname was your home.) And Draesdaen is the name of a city I use a lot in my writings.

Just a respelling one of my old character's names.

Shegokigo said:

Barbarian... Elf?

*has a mental image of a thin, lanky elf in a loincloth*

:explode:

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He is "wirey."

Amorous Eyes said:

I'm guessing the queue was just a temporary thing because all of the servers were down. Cannith may have been the first one up, dunno.I got right in anyway.

Level 3 again already, saving up my action points. I wanna be a good healer.

Been running around with Mahdis, Fadey, Allihandra, Fiorad, and myself for a few hours and we all made good progress, Chibi definitely knows his way around the game.

...I think I'm forgetting one, but that may be the hireling, heh.

Having lots of fun, sleepies times now.

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Dammit, looks like I'm doing the dragon quest, and all the other ones solo from now on, heh.

I finally got it up and going. It looks pretty cool. I don't know if I'll be on again tonight, but the name is Uldron.

So are we definitely switching to Cannith? I don't really care, as this is only going to be an occasional thing.

I can't keep track of where you guys are. Mr. ZM rolled on Sarlona with me so I'm sticking there. If I decide to make an alt maybe it'll be on Cannith.

YAY, got my code! Started on Cannith. Made 2 characters right away. Ulrika Leonora (human paladin) and Izuela Liodis (elf sorceress). Might reroll them if I don't like the classes, but will keep their first names.

Is it considered better to multiclass or sticking with one class? I was thinking of giving the paladin a few levels in either fighter or cleric, or sticking with pure pally. Whatever is better in the end. Same with the sorceress only with a few levels in either rogue or hunter.

Tinwhistler said:

i'm sticking on sarlona, too.
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Yeah, I was more talking about having high levels who've played the game longer, giving you tips while you played/made characters. Not exactly the power leveling it seemed like I was coming across with.

@Li3n said:

So, no one want to make me an account?


Well i'm going to bed, but if anyone want to, just put in

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Name: Aratura Bubuit, dob: 01.01.1981, mail: a_bubuit at yahoo dot com, account name: mps.4li3n, pass 123456 (i'll be changing it if it works, and none of the info is legit, so no need to censor it)

10x.

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So, no one willing to help out?!

First of all, that's not enough info to make an account. We need a community name (should be different than your user name) and password as well.

Second of all, stop whining. It really doesn't make us want to help you more.

AshburnerX said:

First of all, that's not enough info to make an account. We need a community name (should be different than your user name) and password as well.

Second of all, stop whining. It really doesn't make us want to help you more.

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The community name fields aren't marked as required... and 4li3n works as a community name... keep the pass the same, easier to change then.

Account is made. You need to get one of these downloads.

Download Turbine Manager here (Fastest option)

Download Standard Resolution here (Normal looking graphics, 2.8 Gigs)

Download High Resolution here (Best looking option, 3.8 gigs)

I actually agree with you Shego. Chibi's friend last night was being nice and helpful with Bard advice. Which I appreciate, don't get me wrong. But there's also that feeling that it takes some of the fun of finding out for yourself out of the game. The problem with advice from long-playing players is that they tend to think there's only one good way to do something. Also, I know nothing about the Waterworks, because we went through so quickly, I don't even know what the story was. Again, I totally appreciate the help and the xp, but I did miss the story.

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I actually agree with you Shego. Chibi's friend last night was being nice and helpful with Bard advice. Which I appreciate, don't get me wrong. But there's also that feeling that it takes some of the fun of finding out for yourself out of the game. The problem with advice from long-playing players is that they tend to think there's only one good way to do something. Also, I know nothing about the Waterworks, because we went through so quickly, I don't even know what the story was. Again, I totally appreciate the help and the xp, but I did miss the story.

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Yup..that's the exact kind of thing I was referring to. I joined a pickup group that had a couple level 5's, and we blazed through the waterworks on hard. I don't even know anything about it other than "hey, there are kobolds in the sewer which we can kill, yay!" and "Hey, there are instances inside of this instance, which can seem confusing. Yay!" and "Wow, if I stop to type something, these guys are three rooms ahead of me. I might as well just sit here and collect free xp...uh, yay?"

While I appreciate the xp run, I am looking forward to actually visiting the place and sussing it out for myself on my own timetable.

AshburnerX said:

Account is made. You need to get one of these downloads.

Download Turbine Manager here (Fastest option)

Download Standard Resolution here (Normal looking graphics, 2.8 Gigs)

Download High Resolution here (Best looking option, 3.8 gigs)

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Thank dude... i already d/l those last week, the nice thing was that you can just d/l the first one and then let it d/l the rest in the background...

BTW, which 2 are the European servers? All i could find is that they're named after Eberron deities, but i only know Khyber...

Tinwhistler;259291][quote=fade said:

I actually agree with you Shego. Chibi's friend last night was being nice and helpful with Bard advice. Which I appreciate, don't get me wrong. But there's also that feeling that it takes some of the fun of finding out for yourself out of the game. The problem with advice from long-playing players is that they tend to think there's only one good way to do something. Also, I know nothing about the Waterworks, because we went through so quickly, I don't even know what the story was. Again, I totally appreciate the help and the xp, but I did miss the story.

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Yup..that's the exact kind of thing I was referring to. I joined a pickup group that had a couple level 5's, and we blazed through the waterworks on hard. I don't even know anything about it other than "hey, there are kobolds in the sewer which we can kill, yay!" and "Hey, there are instances inside of this instance, which can seem confusing. Yay!" and "Wow, if I stop to type something, these guys are three rooms ahead of me. I might as well just sit here and collect free xp...uh, yay?"

While I appreciate the xp run, I am looking forward to actually visiting the place and sussing it out for myself on my own timetable.[/QUOTE]

Kobolds are treated as second class citizens in Stormreach, to the point where they mainly live in the sewers and waterworks. They are still allowed up on the streets however, as long as they don't cause any trouble (This is why one is working as a bouncer in the Wayward Lobster and one is gathering holy items near the blacksmith). However, the ones living in the sewers have claimed it as their territory and attack anyone who goes in. THOSE kobolds are jerks.

Anyonelse annoyed you can only play different shades of "Good". Where's my "Chaotic Evil" alignment choice damnit?!

Shegokigo said:

Anyonelse annoyed you can only play different shades of "Good". Where's my "Chaotic Evil" alignment choice damnit?!

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That did annoy me. I also wish I could play as a Kobold, considering how core they are to the setting and how stereotypically evil races are often quite different in Eberron.

Yea. I wonder about that. no evil allow at all

as for power leveling, there is no power level in DDO. If the levels in your party is greater than 3, you get no exp so if a level 1 is being run by level 5, you get no exp at all. Also if a quest is too low for a character, you get no exp either. Some quest giver require base level to take on (usually utpo 3 levels also).

What I do offer is knowledge of the game and resources. The only reason I suggest cannith (and some did go there) is that I don't know how many of y'all will be playing for a long time. I don't have a max character yet and trying to get at least 1 character to 1750 favor (unlock 32 point build character) which takes a long while (about a year or so since you have to get a lot of quest in elite mode)

Also since Cannith is new, they do not allow character transfer, so the economy is still pretty balance. You don't see some insane prices (well you always see some) but at least a lot of players are being realistic.

Shegokigo said:

Anyonelse annoyed you can only play different shades of "Good". Where's my "Chaotic Evil" alignment choice damnit?!

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Yes! I keep picking the bitchiest conversation choices in hope it'll skew me towards evil or at least neutral, but I guess that only works in Mass Effect. rly:

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Chibibar said:

Also since Cannith is new, they do not allow character transfer, so the economy is still pretty balance. You don't see some insane prices (well you always see some) but at least a lot of players are being realistic.

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Now that I have it running beautifully on my laptop, I will probably hedge my bet by rolling a cleric on Cannith.

Edrondol the Sneaky on Cannith. I played him for a good while last night and was almost level 3 when I finished. Warforged thief. Sweet!

I really wish I could find time to play this between my WoW/TF2/S.T.A.L.K.E.R playing.... it really seems like I could get into it if I could just play it for a few hours.

Maybe tonight....

I know the feeling... any time I can get on to play, it seems no one is around. At night I have CoH commitments or I'm just plain tired.

weekends I'll try to be on weird hours. Weekdays usually at night until 11pm (central time) give or take.

No worries. I am probably going to level up my monk/ranger to match the guild and then continue leveling allihandra higher so she can find stuff FOR the guild.

I'm sure y'all would like a rapier of pure good rather than trying to buy one for 2million gold

AshburnerX said:

I know the feeling... any time I can get on to play, it seems no one is around. At night I have CoH commitments or I'm just plain tired.

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If I just cut out my TF2 time, that'd be 3-4hrs of extra time I could put into DDO, but the problem I think I'm having the most is running more than one MMO at a time. Every minute I'm on DDO, I'm thinking of stuff that needs doing on WoW. :explode:

Chibibar said:

I'm sure y'all would like a rapier of pure good rather than trying to buy one for 2million gold

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You get me a Staff of Pure Evil and I'm sold :slywink:

I've been playing here and there. I have night time commitments to family, Fade, and research, though.

Meh, I am now looking at this as a whnever I might have a little spare time, if even then kinda thing. Playing it more, it is interesting and a bit fun, but jsut not enough for me to overtake anything else I am playing now.

My free time for gaming is limited outside of other fun things I do, and this isnt that high on the list compared to other games that compete for said time.

I've come to the conclusion that this game is even easier than WoW or CoH, and that's saying something. I soloed most of the Korthos wilderness with a 2 Wizard on normal. Nac's Cold Ray makes it a snap. Poof poof poof. All dead in one hit.

Cold Ray starts to suck in Stormreach. That's when the game gets REAL.

yeah...i had a hard time soloing in stormreach as a lvl 2 mage on Argonnessen back before DDO went free. But they didn't have some of the amenities that they have now, like easy to get lower-level hirelings, so it might be easier now.

Niac's cold ray? That spell is pretty good. Remember that some mobs have reflex save and "jump around" a lot so you have to cast against stationary mobs.

How to make them stationary? Hypnotism or have a cleric cast command.

Who's currently playing? On Cannith?

I got me some questions!

Vent!

I played a long time last night. I've pretty much decided that I hate the advice channel, for reasons stated above. People think there's only one right way to play the game. But not as much as I hate the general chat. It makes Barrens chat look interesting. Yesterday, it devolved into antisemitism, yet I couldn't stop watching. It was like a car crash.

Also, admitted stupid question...what's the equivalent to THAC0 in 3rd edition? I mean, presumably there's some mechanism for melee characters to hit more often than non-melee, right?

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Ah, I found it. It's the "BAB", which is apparently just 20-THAC0.

fade said:

[/COLOR]Ah, I found it. It's the "BAB", which is apparently just 20-THAC0.

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Yeah, the "Base Attack Bonus" is simply a bonus that you apply - along with all the other bonuses/penalties from Strength or Dexterity, magic weapons and miscellaneous other sources like feats and spells - to your d20 attack roll. If that attack roll equals or exceeds the target's AC, you hit.

Your AC is equal to 10 plus all the bonuses/penalties from armor, Dexterity and various other sources. (Plate mail, for example, provides a +8 bonus to AC while leather provides +2; Goddamn Armor was annoying when a lower value represented better protection)

Anyway, the BAB of the fighter and various primary combat classes equals the class level. The BAB of the wizard and similar classes equal to half the class level. For clerics, rogues and various others, the BAB is equal to 3/4 or 2/3 the level, I can't quite recall and don't feel like doing the math on that.

3/4 progression

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at level 20, end with a +15 BAB

damn that was some pretty basic Math I didn't bother with. I should probably go sit in a corner with my dunce cap.

I've been playing almost every night. Nobody has even said hi.

I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.

Tinwhistler said:

I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.

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So 1/2 of us jumped to the other server and the active 1/2 didn't?

*le sigh*

I've been on Cannith, playing either solo or with Chibibar.

I'm 3rd level thief and last night I did the kobold attack solo. That meant that I had to take on 200 kobolds. Took me a while and I ran a lot but I made it.

Dave;263826][quote=Tinwhistler said:

I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.

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So 1/2 of us jumped to the other server and the active 1/2 didn't?

*le sigh*[/QUOTE]

Yep, curses to the person who suggested the new server. Seriously.

Honestly, this was to be expected the moment a select few decided to play on another server and advertised their poor decision and pulled a few more away. This wasn't going to work people! The original server chosen was Sarlona. It plays well, there's no lag, no server instability, grouping is solid and overall been decent going. Another server really wasn't needed. What this did was basically destroy the main reason why we were deciding to play together, on the same server and group. It was easy to see that several people weren't willing to start all over and redo the same noobie quests.

le sigh

SeriousJay;263853][quote=Dave;263826][quote=Tinwhistler said:

I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.

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So 1/2 of us jumped to the other server and the active 1/2 didn't?

*le sigh*[/QUOTE]

Yep, curses to the person who suggested the new server. Seriously.

Honestly, this was to be expected the moment a select few decided to play on another server and advertised their poor decision and pulled a few more away. This wasn't going to work people! The original server chosen was Sarlona. It plays well, there's no lag, no server instability, grouping is solid and overall been decent going. Another server really wasn't needed. What this did was basically destroy the main reason why we were deciding to play together, on the same server and group. It was easy to see that several people weren't willing to start all over and redo the same noobie quests.

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Cannith does seem to have a much better economy at least. Prices aren't nearly as ridiculous as they are on Sarlona.

Doesn't mean much to most players who just want to play with friends. How people can screw up on which server to choose after the first batch of people have started playing on is pretty astounding to say the least.

Oh well.

I went to Sarlona a good while after this thread had been created, and played there for days, rarely seeing anyone online in the guild. The reason I went to Cannith was because people in that version of the guild actually seemed to be present and playing. So, I don't think it was "screwing up".

(Though there's hardly anyone there anymore either.)

SeriousJay said:

This wasn't going to work people! The original server chosen was Sarlona.

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Previous post can be summed up as "Why didn't anyone stay at MY party? :waah:"

Get over it, Jay. This wasn't going to work because a) Halforum MMO guilds never work, and b) people understandably wanted to go to a server where there were people with resources who could help out.

I don't recall throwing any parties. I just recall another epic failure.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, someone had to say it. People sucked and the point of playing this failed. *tears here*

BLNT

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I just recall another epic failure.

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No, you're crying because people didn't come to YOUR server and do what YOU wanted. Weak. Also?

Yawn, do us all a favor and stop replying to me. You simply don't understand.

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You simply don't understand.

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About DDO points... Is there some repeatable quest where you can earn that? When I rerolled my character I noticed I would not gain points for my reputation until I passed my deleted character. And can't get any rep beyond elite, on the harbor quests atleast.

Siska said:

About DDO points... Is there some repeatable quest where you can earn that? When I rerolled my character I noticed I would not gain points for my reputation until I passed my deleted character. And can't get any rep beyond elite, on the harbor quests atleast.

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It's entirely tied to Rep, but if you do it on different SERVERS, you can get more points for early stuff. I know I had 100 points before I went to Cannith and by the time I was the same level as I was on Sarlona, I had another 125 points.

Last night (on Sarlona, partly because I wanted to keep my two on Cannith) I re-rolled my Bard. I was able to level him pretty quickly now that I have experience. I took a second level in fighter. The bard was already a decent melee fighter, but that pushed him just enough that he ate through the Korthos Island monsters like burger meat. Combined with the bard buffs and my favorite "Charm Person" spell, it was a snap compared to the pure bard. I just wish I knew where to find a quick greatsword (and longbow?). The armor proficiency is kind of a waste thanks to the huge spell failure, but the rest was worth it.

Yeah, I know---no bard capstone (whatever that means), and apparently I automatically lose some of the bard benefits (according to the advice channel). But I've got this funny feeling I'll never make it to 20. Never made it to 50 on CoH or 80 on WoW before getting bored.

If your not one already, I recommend you switch to an Elf for your Bard/Fighter build. You can take a racial enhancement that will reduce your Spell Chance Failure in armor by 5-10%, meaning you can wear some armors without a spell chance failure (Padded and maybe some Mithril Armors). As for Greatswords and Longbows, you'll start finding those occasionally in the Harbor. I don't even think they spawn as random treasures in Korthos.

on point system.

you get 25 points per 100 favors.
you can usually get around 400 favor by level 7-8. So unless you really push favor, you won't see more than 100 point gain PER server (I think it is per character, but I think it is 1st character on that server)

most you can get is 2250 favor which is a long way to get (takes about a year or so) since you need to get elite in almost ALL the quests.

1750 favor unlock 32 point build. that alone will take a and around leevl 20 now (you can do it at 16 but that is elite in ALL quests)

We do play a lot on Cannith. Two of my friends log on a lot we have multiple alts. If the halforums are not going to play as much except for like 3-4 we can absorb you into our guild (Wandering Blades) which has around 5 active players (all real life friends) which we play weekends and and evenings.

Allithia (John) is willing to run anyone in the guild for anything. He doesn't like to give spoilers so don't expect him to tell you all the traps on normal he believes in actually experiencing it yourself.

Free play is limited and thus exclude from many of the "fast exp" instance run like Tangleroot, Delaras, STK, and Catacombs.

Well, as a bard, there's no penalty for light armor already. It's the medium and heavy stuff.

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Well, as a bard, there's no penalty for light armor already. It's the medium and heavy stuff.

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and shield

Chibibar said:

on point system.

you get 25 points per 100 favors.
you can usually get around 400 favor by level 7-8. So unless you really push favor, you won't see more than 100 point gain PER server (I think it is per character, but I think it is 1st character on that server)

most you can get is 2250 favor which is a long way to get (takes about a year or so) since you need to get elite in almost ALL the quests.

1750 favor unlock 32 point build. that alone will take a and around leevl 20 now (you can do it at 16 but that is elite in ALL quests)

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Ok, I think I got the points figured out. There are some once per server points you can get. 3 or 4 milestones, between 5 and 50 favor that will give you 25 points each. Making one character on each server and getting them up to 50 favor, is a quick, non repetable way to earn a few hundred free points. After that you get 25 free points on every character for every 100 favor milestone. It's slow, think I was about level 6 when I finally hit 200 favor. Those slow points you can earn indefinatly. Since you get them on every character you make.

Siska;269905][quote=Chibibar said:

on point system.

you get 25 points per 100 favors.
you can usually get around 400 favor by level 7-8. So unless you really push favor, you won't see more than 100 point gain PER server (I think it is per character, but I think it is 1st character on that server)

most you can get is 2250 favor which is a long way to get (takes about a year or so) since you need to get elite in almost ALL the quests.

1750 favor unlock 32 point build. that alone will take a and around leevl 20 now (you can do it at 16 but that is elite in ALL quests)

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Ok, I think I got the points figured out. There are some once per server points you can get. 3 or 4 milestones, between 5 and 50 favor that will give you 25 points each. Making one character on each server and getting them up to 50 favor, is a quick, non repetable way to earn a few hundred free points. After that you get 25 free points on every character for every 100 favor milestone. It's slow, think I was about level 6 when I finally hit 200 favor. Those slow points you can earn indefinatly. Since you get them on every character you make.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much.

It is pretty slow after 400. You can get around 400 favor by level 7-8 (which unlock drow for that server) and that equals to 100 Turbine points. (25 per 100) after that it is REALLY slow

Consider the cost of most of the adventure pack, it will take a while to get a lot of characters and "grind" points, but it is doable but with only 2 character slots (4 with premium if you buy some points or go VIP for 1 month) you can get 4 slots. That is a lot of deletions.

Do drow have the XP penalty they do in the real game?

fade said:

Do drow have the XP penalty they do in the real game?

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Nope. There is no xp penalty. They actually have several benefits like Spell Resistance and stuff like that.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Image:Drow_male.jpg

The difference between races are the starting stats (positive and negative) like Drow starts with -2 Con (so it starts at a 6 instead of normal 8)

Drow is essentially a 32 point build since they do have extra +2 dex, int and cha. They make great Pally, Rogue, Wizard, Sorcerer, Favored Soul or any other class. The downside is that the con is a little low so you would need to pump that up.