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figmentPez

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

One of the better Confidentials this week, I think. Tours of Venice, historical research, funny on-set stories. Very enjoyable.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Have I mentioned before how much I love Karen Gillan?

Well, just to be sure then:

MAN do I love Karen Gillan.
 

figmentPez

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Have I mentioned before how much I love Karen Gillan?

Well, just to be sure then:

MAN do I love Karen Gillan.
I bet you're jealous of Arthur Darvill this week. A kissing scene with Karen and she forgets she's supposed to be the one to break off the make-out session?
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

And the wanker even made sure the director told her to make it "the kiss of his life".

That bastard.
 
R

Rubicon

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Another enjoyable episode tonight, despite some rathy shaky CGI and plot holes. I also thought it was one of the funniest.

The best moment had to be the library card though, not only for it showing Hartnell but for Dr. J. Smith!


I caught that too and totally geeked out, I love when they tie in really older version Doctor stuff into the new series. Great stuff.

Overall good episode. Still better than the Dalek stuff thus far. Though the crack-in-the-universe stuff is painfully obvious..
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

It seems so far that every single director who's directed Karen Gillan knows that her face was made for close ups.

Even the guy who did this interview.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Another "eh" episode. The Dream Lord was so anti-climactic, too.

For a seaon that started out so strong, it's starting to peter out and become one of my lesser favourites.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

i really enjoyed the low-key feel of the episode, as well as the dreamlord painstakingly deconstructing everything about the doctor. " if you had more tawdry quirks you could open up a tawdry quirk shop! i'm surprised you haven't got a little purple space dog'

the ep had more fridge horror than genuine scares. Like the fact that
the doctor apparently hates himself enough to create the twisted game in the episode.

speaking of which, time for
valeyard
speculation!

and next week? silurians!
 
V

Veteran

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

"Floppy-haired wuss" won it for me!

The episode reminded me of Father's Day for Rose, just straightforward character development and much needed.
 
M

Matt²

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

the Valeyard, or The Doctor, as I've always known him, is an amalgamation of all the darker parts of the Doctor somewhere between his 12th and 13th regenerations.
(from the Master during "Trial of a Timelord")

Hence, the "Dreamlord" as he's calling himself, is just ONE of those parts! We're likely to see another, if not several more, by the looks of it, if Moffat is keeping the timeline history intact.

also interesting to note (TLDR, if this has been mentioned, sorry) that Dreamlord's snaps to other areas in the Tardis, instantly, like a video flicker.. Eccleston and Tennant both had memory programs that did that too, even if this was all a dream.
 

Green_Lantern

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I liked this episode, good-to-average and interesting, two bad I already knew that.

both realities are dreams, still, Dreamlord being the Doctor dark side was awesome


edit: also, hey, finally 1000 posts >.<
 

figmentPez

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

I don't think I could correctly identify more than 2 of these compaions, but this is still awesome:

 
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Veteran

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

That's great! I can identify 8: Susan, Sarah-Jane, Leela, Romana (both of them), Peri, Ace and obviously Rose. Can't remember the name of the woman in McGann's movie, or who Bonnie Langford was.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

That's great! I can identify 8: Susan, Sarah-Jane, Leela, Romana (both of them), Peri, Ace and obviously Rose. Can't remember the name of the woman in McGann's movie, or who Bonnie Langford was.
Shame, you missed Nyssa and Teegan.
 

figmentPez

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Okay, took me a while to get around to watching last week's Confidential, for the episode Amy's Choice, but it made me wonder something. I'm spoilering because it's a tangent, but it does go off of plot points:

Am I the only one who regularly has dreams and knows he's dreaming? Sometimes I have dreams where I don't know I"m dreaming, at the time, but I also frequently have dreams where I'm fully aware I'm in a dream and often I can take control of the dream as well. Trying to force too much change in the dream usually causes me to wake up, and it's pretty exhausting to try some of the cooler stuff (flight, power ring constructs) but all the writers and cast were talking like no one ever knows it's dream while they're in it, and that's an odd concept to me.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Okay, took me a while to get around to watching last week's Confidential, for the episode Amy's Choice, but it made me wonder something. I'm spoilering because it's a tangent, but it does go off of plot points:

Am I the only one who regularly has dreams and knows he's dreaming? Sometimes I have dreams where I don't know I"m dreaming, at the time, but I also frequently have dreams where I'm fully aware I'm in a dream and often I can take control of the dream as well. Trying to force too much change in the dream usually causes me to wake up, and it's pretty exhausting to try some of the cooler stuff (flight, power ring constructs) but all the writers and cast were talking like no one ever knows it's dream while they're in it, and that's an odd concept to me.
What you're describing is called Lucid Dreaming... it's something most people experience a few times, but it's not by far, common for it to happen a lot. Indeed, there are people who work for YEARS to achieve lucid dreaming.. keeping dream journals to recognize "dream signs", etc. And then they have to learn how to keep a lucid dream lucid without waking up or slipping into a non-lucid one. It's hard work, dude.

Hell, they're already testing a device of sort that will emit a low sound when you enter REM sleep, so that when you hear it you know you're dreaming and can then have a lucid dream.

So yes, most people don't get that naturally and it's not foreign to see dreams as something you don't know is happening at the time.
 

Green_Lantern

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

My few lucid dreams were boring, mostly because the lack o f challenging.

Also, this slast episode... was just average, impressively average, no terrible bad moment but no awesome moment either
 
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Overflight

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

So I just saw "The Hungry Earth"/"Cold Blood". Pretty good episodes. I don't think this season has had a bad episode so far.

Poor Rory. :( I hope the ring is meant to be some way to restore Amy's memory and bring him back.
 

Green_Lantern

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

So I just saw "The Hungry Earth"/"Cold Blood". Pretty good episodes. I don't think this season has had a bad episode so far.

Poor Rory. :( I hope the ring is meant to be some way to restore Amy's memory and bring him back.
"pretty good"? The first bit was the most average episode in the entire Doctor Who new run (average meaning that it lacked anything truly good or bad) the last one was... a abomination
 
M

Matt²

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Poor Rory. :(
Who?

heh, exactly. I know he's slated to return though, but I hope permanently.. it would suck if they permanently killed him off like that!

the part with the Doctor pulling the shattered and broken piece of the Tardis at the end was TOTALLY FRICKIN AWESOME! I don't think I've been this eager to see what's coming since the series revived in 2005!!
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Holy shit.

That was... holy shit.

I had goosebumps all through that last museum scene. And I got watery eyes at some point. Oh man.. such a wonderful episode.

The whole Whovian thing was nothing but background... it was all about Van Gogh. And it was wonderful.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Yeah, the whole episode was ho-hum until the end and it was worth it. To be honest, I was so tired, I fell asleep through the episode and woke up right about when the Doctor asked Vincent to get cleaned up.

I still have to say, aside from the first four or five, this season has been wholly disappointing for me.
 
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TwoBit

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Wow. That was a rather sad and poignant episode. It was nice to have an ep that didn't do the "ZOMG time rift!" thing again.

Since when did the Doctor have a godmother with two heads?
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

It was like The Girl in the Fireplace with a happy ending.
 
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Iaculus

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Wow. That was a rather sad and poignant episode. It was nice to have an ep that didn't do the "ZOMG time rift!" thing again.

Since when did the Doctor have a godmother with two heads?
Knowing the Doctor, he probably has hundreds of godmothers. Dozens with two heads.

Agreed on it being a nicely poignant episode, but...

... giant invisible chicken? Really?
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Stop criticizing it!!! This episode, ladies and gentlemen, is the moment I decided I like the new Who, even if not The Doctor himself (yet), as much as the previous incarnation. With lots of room to grow.


I'm loving this season, and if we get more episodes like this I'm gonna start loving it more than Tennant's.
 

figmentPez

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Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

The emotion in that episode. Such a wonderful smiling sadness. Van Gogh, Amy and Rory. The Doctor being the Doctor. Magnificent. And such beautiful cinematography as well.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

The perspective... the not even explaining WHY Van Gogh could see the alien. That was the magic in this episode.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Just for that, I'm revoking your "could crash on my couch" status.
 
Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

Then I'm revoking your "Honorary Irishman" and "My Mexican Irish Brother" status.

.... see if you get any of the Irish Mexican tacos next time I'm around.....
 
M

Matt²

Doctor WHo: The Eleventh Victory of the Angel Bellow

I'm just not enjoying this season's episodes as I have enjoyed the ones prior.
I haven't enjoyed many of the episodes either, particularly the one with River Song returning, and the very lackluster "whale in space eating people but not children" ship story, etc etc.. but it has finally started to grow on me. I enjoyed the Silurian ending, and how it kept with 40 year old Doctor Who history. Well, 50 years if you count the 2020 timeline! ;) ..

But they are big shoes to fill and each actor has had an adjustment time fitting into the shoes. We'll see how it ends.
 
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