Electoral college favors Obama

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Or it can just be called an exaggeration.
Despite what you may think, I don't think you wanna go that way. Exaggeration has connotations associated with dishonesty because it implies attempting to knowingly bend the truth without it being known to the audience, whereas hyperbole is a recognized rhetorical device because it is not intended to be taken literally.
 
Despite what you may think, I don't think you wanna go that way. Exaggeration has connotations associated with dishonesty because it implies attempting to knowingly bend the truth without it being known to the audience, whereas hyperbole is a recognized rhetorical device because it is not intended to be taken literally.
Got it. Thanks.

Krisken - That would be love-r-ly.
 
So does the fact that Obama has only vetoed two bills in the last four years suggest that he isn't using his executive powers to push congress in the right direction, or that he works so well with them that they don't pass bills he isn't going to sign, or that we've had the lowest number of bills come out of congress this last term than we've had in the last dozen terms?
 
I honestly think it's the third. Congress has become so polarized since the 2010 elections, especially on the House side, getting things done is not a top priority with these clowns.

When the top Republican in the Senate says their goal is to make sure the President doesn't get elected again, it sorta taints everything they do.
 
Ooohh, five democrats in the House. That's bipartisan now.[DOUBLEPOST=1351903838][/DOUBLEPOST]
It saddens me, but it doesn't surprise me. Hell, I would have thought Reid mentally retarded if he didn't take the same stance the Republicans did the last two years. This won't end well for anyone, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for electing more partisan nitwits while kicking out the moderates.
 
If not, then passing Obamacare wasn't bipartisan either.
I agree with that. However, I'd also say it wasn't a partisan bill. Not getting the peckerheads to vote for their own initiatives and demands should put the blame squarely on those who deserve it.
 
... I thought this was a thread about the electoral college, and who had to win what state and all that?
 
... I thought this was a thread about the electoral college, and who had to win what state and all that?
Oh, that's right. My bad for getting sucked in :)

On the Electoral College front, I think it's still favoring Obama. State polls are showing he has a slim lead in Nevada, and slightly stronger leads in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Michigan. I think these four states will be enough for Obama to hold onto the Presidency.

Should be interesting the next 3 days, for sure. Get ready for Wednesday morning legal challenges everywhere no matter who wins.
 
Krisken - if Obama's got the lead here, what is up with all the ####in' Romney signs I saw up and down I-94/90/39 today?
 
Krisken - if Obama's got the lead here, what is up with all the ####in' Romney signs I saw up and down I-94/90/39 today?
Obama's stronghold in the state is easily Madison/Dade county. You're going to see a lot of signs for Romney, for sure, but overall the more populated areas are going to swing more Obama than Romney, especially where minorities and women are concerned.
 
On a similar subject: how many GPS calls have you gotten in the last week?

I've gotten about 12 since the 1st.
 
What's interesting to me is that Obama's campaigning has nothing on Romney. We would get 5-6 calls a *DAY* about "VOTE FOR ROMNEY BLAH BLAH BLAH" and no calls from Obama's campaign. Our junk mail has a token Vote for Obama mailing once and a while, but it's overwhelmingly Romney crap. I was seriously ready to throw my phone out the window and lock my mailbox.

Definitely did early voting the day after it opened just to make it (mostly) stop.
 
Oh, on my iPod Touch, I have nothing BUT anti-Tammy Baldwin* ads on webpages. I suspect they'd be all over the webpages I visit if I didn't have adblock.

* - Tammy Baldwin is running for retiring Senator Herb Kohl's seat in Wisconsin - against my former "boss", Tommy Thompson.
 
Well let's look at the scorecard for election night to get an idea of what needs to go down...



To put mildly, this is Obama's to lose. Romney has to...

- Win every state McCain won in '08. This is likely, but it's not inconceivable he could lose one and basically lose at this step.

- Win back some of the red states that Obama decisively won in '08. Indiana, Virginia, and North Carolina are the most advantageous and most likely to happen at this point, but it's far from assured. I'd probably give him Indiana at least at this point though.

- He must win both Ohio AND Florida. Ohio's statistically going left this election, but it's close enough it go could ether way. Florida is just plain impossible to call because it's population is so transient. If he loses ether Ohio or Florida, he's done unless he picks up a ton of the swing states or wins back several of the one's McCain lost in '08.

- Win at least one of the other swing states. This is pretty likely, but every one he doesn't get makes it harder for him to win. He'd also have to win back several more of these if he loses Ohio, Florida, or fails to regain some of the traditional red states.
 
Here's what I'm going to peep Election Night and Wednesday, and you should too if you like virulently conservative and mostly evil people being disappointed: https://twitter.com/GOP_Tears/republican-tears
Who're the better names it's tracking?
So far I found Laura I and David Limbaugh, does it have Rush and Sean on it? They're the big 2 I'm really hoping to watch fall apart.

Loved this gem by Trump
We can't destroy the competitiveness of our factories in order to prepare for nonexistent global warming. China is thrilled with us!
 
Here's an interesting editorial I just came across:

My plea to the undecideds: Stay home!

By Jeff Greenfield

As the momentous day approaches, with epochal consequences for an anxiously awaiting world, I take pen in hand—make that apply fingertips to keypad—to renew a traditional plea I first made more than 30 years ago. It’s a plea I’ve made in print, on the air, and now through the miracle of digital technology. But its message never changes.

It’s a plea directed to those of you who are still uncertain about for whom you will vote. And it’s as simple as it is heartfelt: Stay home.

The candidates have been at this for years; both President Obama and Mitt Romney began running for the presidency six years ago. They’ve made speeches, answered (or evaded) questions and raised billions to persuade you of their worth—or the other guy’s worthlessness.

The media have been covering their every move and word, even when the candidates thought they weren’t. (Can you say: “Cling to their religion and guns?” “Forty-seven percent?”) The coverage has been slanted, scrupulously fair, superficial, in-depth, misleading, dead-on. With a flick of a page or the click of a mouse, you have been able to find out every conceivable piece of information you might want on their backgrounds, families, values, experience, positions taken, positions abandoned, promises made, promises broken, and what music they have on their iPods.

And after all this time, you’re still trying to make up your minds. The overwhelmingly likely reason is this: you have the reasoning power of a baked potato.

Okay, I grant you that you may be one of the small minority of concerned involved citizens who are genuinely torn, who have not yet evaluated the relative worth of the health care reform notions, or the vagaries of the tax proposals, or the respective approaches to the increasing power of the renminbi.

But I wouldn’t bet a nickel on it.

The odds are, you’ve just been too busy obsessing about the misfortunes of the Kardashians, or the quality of your ringtone, to spend any time thinking about who the better president might be.

Well, that’s your right. Unlike the Australians, we don’t compel people to vote, and it would likely be a First Amendment violation if we tried. A refusal to vote can be seen as a statement that the electoral system is rigged, or meaningless, or so thoroughly corrupt as to deserve contempt. (“I never vote,” one citizen said long ago. “It only encourages them.”)

And there are other valid reasons for not voting. As a personal matter, I stopped voting more than a decade ago, on the ground that it helped me as an analyst not to think about making a choice in the voting booth.

So it strikes me as a sound, honest statement for a prospective voter to say: “Look, I haven’t given this election a minute’s thought, and it’s just not fair for me to cancel out the vote of someone who actually gives a damn.”

Indeed, it’s not just sound and honest—it’s the ethically responsible thing to do.

Men and women in my lifetime have died fighting for the right to vote: people like James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, who were murdered in Mississippi while registering black voters in 1964, and Viola Liuzzo, murdered by the Ku Klux Klan in 1965 during the Selma Voting Rights March. In these days of early voting, we’ve seen people waiting on line for hours to exercise the franchise. Countless others, who have never had to fight for it, have spent real time either trying to decide how to cast their vote, or donating their time to persuading others.

So if you’re one of those folks who have stayed utterly disengaged through all of this, do the honorable thing: honor those for whom the vote really matters by staying home.

You’ll be doing yourself—and the country—a favor.
 
Last presidential election in Taiwan, I went down to the polling station and submitted a blank ballot. I exercised my right to vote, but I also did not think either candidate was worth voting for.

Well, okay, technically I wrote my name in the margin and voted for myself. But that'll be counted as a spoiled ballot, much like a blank one.
 
I'm quoting myself from another thread: Paul Ryan thread
I don't know if you have this in the USA, but in Canada you can officially "decline" your ballot. You go up to the booth, get your ticket that you're supposed to mark which one you want, and then return it to them un-marked and tell them that you wish to officially decline it, and it is recorded that way. That is different than "spoiled" ballots which some do to express a similar sentiment, but this way you are really saying "nothing there is worth voting for" and/or "I think this system is invalid/corrupt/etc" without looking possibly like an idiot, because most of the "spoiled" ballots is of people just not following instructions, not an actual "protest" vote. It's never added up to anything significant, but it is officially recorded, rather than just not showing up, which could mean anything.

I've said before that if you don't vote, don't complain, but I would accept somebody complaining if they said they officially declined their ballot, rather than saying "oh I just didn't vote." If they go through the effort to decline it, I know they're not just being a lazy ass.
Maybe you didn't have that option in Taiwan bhamv, but if any Canadian comes in here and says they did what you did, I will call them an idiot.
 
So I thought it would be interesting to check out that guy who essentially called Nate Silver a stupid little girly man. Here's his most current electoral map:



Pretty different from most of the other polls, but check out this one from a week earlier:

[DOUBLEPOST=1352180273][/DOUBLEPOST]Wait, I missed his latest projection, done today. Muuch closer now.

 
I can understand the projections of a close Romney victory, but I'm having trouble imagining how anyone could have reasonably projected a 350+ Romney victory. Even at the height of his debate bump, the only way you could get that figure was to systematically ignore every poll that still gave Obama the edge in any state-by-state popular votes...oh.
 
A refusal to vote can be seen as a statement that the electoral system is rigged, or meaningless, or so thoroughly corrupt as to deserve contempt.
Not voting only shows apathy and tells politicians that you can be safely ignored because you're a non-participant. If you want to make a statement show up, and submit a blank ballot. Whatever you do DON'T vote for the lesser of two evils, that just says you're okay with the shit being fed. Vote for the candidate you agree with, or don't check a box at all. The important thing is participating.
 
Leaving the ballot blank can allow people to check one or the other options... be truly paranoid and check both, and write some sweet words on it about why you did it... probably won't matter, but it sure feels good...



Also, didn't know where else to put this, but Holy Cow, Romney actually comes off as human for once: http://www.salon.com/2012/11/05/romney_rant_on_mormonism_goes_viral/ and here i tohught he was just some sort of mormon automaton beamed down from Kolob to bring about the Rapture.
 
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