Usually, at least in my experience, the difference is "sexual assault" and "rape", as in, you can be sexually assaulted in a way that targets your sex/person, but it isn't necessarily rape, but rape is a form of sexual assault. Both are bad and should never be allowed to happen, but I wouldn't consider the number of times I've been sexually assaulted as rape.
Everyday sexual harassment of women
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http://feministchallengingtransphob.../03/22/if-everything-is-rape-nothing-is-rape/
Thought this was an interesting read and relevant to the conversation.
Thought this was an interesting read and relevant to the conversation.
GasBandit
Staff member
"The Rape of the Sabine Women" is referring to how they were abducted, not what happened afterwards, after all.
Captain Gloriosus raped Thrace thrice?[DOUBLEPOST=1409061132,1409061000][/DOUBLEPOST]
One thing that definitely HAS annoyed me about the "gaming community" as its overuse of the word "rape" in a context simply meaning victory. Very irritating.
PLEASE let us talk about the definition of the word rape and quote a dictionary, that is REALLY a great form of discourse and will help everyone have a greater understanding
They're already doing that. Come on, dude, read past the OP.
What's your price, Charlie? How much money and time would it take to train/bribe you to stop everyday assaulting women? $20? $40? Would a one-time payment be enough, or would we need to set up some kind of subscription thing to keep the "You shouldn't be doing that" fresh in your head?
--Patrick
I have no clue what you're even beginning to say in your post, sorry
Necronic
Staff member
The way it changes is through coversations like this which will slowly push public opinion in ways that will force public figures to change how they present themselves which will then change the prevailing culture that children are raised in.
And it's working! Just the discussion of it. The whole Dickwolves thing, I can guarantee you that it has changed how a lot of authors write. And I'm not arguing that the Dickwolves argument was right or wrong. I'm jus saying that increased exposure of the issue through discussions like this eventually get us moving (sort of) forward. "Rape culture" will eventually be like civil rights/racism. It will still exist, but it will be socially unacceptable.
So anyways. Keep talking about it. Talking about our problems doesn't directly solve them, but it makes us more thoughtful which goes a long way to fixing things. We're doing it right now. We did it before. And we'll do it again!
And it's working! Just the discussion of it. The whole Dickwolves thing, I can guarantee you that it has changed how a lot of authors write. And I'm not arguing that the Dickwolves argument was right or wrong. I'm jus saying that increased exposure of the issue through discussions like this eventually get us moving (sort of) forward. "Rape culture" will eventually be like civil rights/racism. It will still exist, but it will be socially unacceptable.
So anyways. Keep talking about it. Talking about our problems doesn't directly solve them, but it makes us more thoughtful which goes a long way to fixing things. We're doing it right now. We did it before. And we'll do it again!
I could be wrong, but I'm assuming Charlie has had no part in manufacturing kids of his own, and therefore no frame of reference when it comes to the raising of chillens.
--Patrick
It seems very Hawthornian to me.
To be fair, I believe the question is one of nature AND nurture, with both having a bearing on the finished product. One can blame poor construction on the materials or on the architect, but in reality the end result is mainly the product of both those factors.
--Patrick
I couldn't decide if I should post this here or the misanthropy thread, but this is the one I found first. http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/09/08/womens-rights-violence-advertising?cmpid=tp-fb
I'm not so sure. Let's say that tomorrow, no one committed any crimes. Would people stop getting pulled over or arrested? I don't think so. Officers show their value through what they bring in, which is why at either the beginning or end of the month, at least up north, you'll see increased police cars on the highway, about three times more than usual for quota time.
The entire concept regardless of gender is just horrible.
Oh, I'm not arguing that at all. I'm just explaining why I thought a woman's image was chosen.
--Patrick
figmentPez
Staff member
Nope, not even a fair comparison. Though there are some people every year who are offended by this. Y'know, the hanging man/KKK connection.
GasBandit
Staff member
I think people are overreacting, including the person who wrote the linked article, who describes the image as a woman "beaten and tied." I didn't see any obvious signs of beating, I think that's just the author's colorful storytelling.
The truck decal might have been in poor taste, but it's hardly a ghastly crime against humanity worth, to borrow a phrase from someone else around here whose name escapes me, all this pearl-clutching.
figmentPez
Staff member
I've never seen a photo-realistic dummy hanging from a tree on Halloween. If I did, it probably would make me sick to my stomach, but I'm squeamish like that. However, I wouldn't comment on it, unless the person decided that they were just going to keep it up as decoration all year round, because they think that hanging is a joke.
fade
Staff member
Yeah, that doesn't even remotely strike me as in the same vein as a halloween decoration, but I'm finding it hard to verbalize why. A Halloween decoration doesn't carry the same implied message. A Halloween decoration is supposed to be scary precisely because you understand that what it represents is bad. Even when used for humor, it's always obvious that what it represents is a bad thing, and as a joke, it's a form of whistling in the dark. The decal implies neither though--only that it's HILARIOUS to have a woman tied up in the back of your truck.
GasBandit
Staff member
Not at all - it's not supposed to be hilarious, it's supposed to be jarring. The point of the decal was to get the quality/realism of the decal noticed, thus drum up custom for the decal shop. No matter how photorealistic it is, however, any lateral movement would reveal it for the sham it was and undo the illusion.
How about this one -
The child drawn on the street is supposed to be jarring to drivers who aren't paying enough attention. Naturally, the illusion breaks down very quickly if you're not in the sweet spot cone of perception, but still, how many people would slam on their brakes? How many rear-end collisions might have occurred because of this? Should the City of Vancouver have been reprimanded for making this happen? The thought of running over a child is just as heartrending.
GasBandit
Staff member
And, again, you're getting your impression of the decal people from a hit piece on them.
GasBandit
Staff member
Not really.[DOUBLEPOST=1409365835,1409365372][/DOUBLEPOST]Imgur just learned about those who think as Charlie does on the anti-rape-drug nail polish.
How dare people have tools to keep themselves safe.
It's about 50/50:: genes/environment. AND I'm a huge fan of epigenetics, where your environment affects your genes and subsequently passes those affected genes to your offspring! People aren't closed systems, and their environment has a huge impact on their character; however, no matter how ideal or Utopian a society is, there will always be bad eggs. Charlie be living in a dream world.
Epigenetics is mind blowing stuff. It apparently doesn't exist in the mobile dictionary either.
figmentPez
Staff member
I know right? I mean, fuck locksmiths and companies like Schlage. They just perpetuate the idea that it's property owners responsibility to prevent theft, and charge people for it! Seriously, any time that you sell security products, you're just sending the message that it's okay to make sure that thieves steal from someone else.