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Girl Won't Date a Nerd

#1

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://gizmodo.com/5833787/my-brief-okcupid-affair-with-a-world-champion-magic-the-gathering-player

Not only won't date him, but write an entire article about OKCupid date on a sizeable nerd blog depository.


#2

evilmike

evilmike

Twitter seems to be having fun with it.

https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=#signsyoumaybedatingagizmodowriter


#3

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The guys idea for a first date was dinner, drinks and Jeffrey Dahmer?


#4

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Dahmer would be the problem... not that they guy plays collectible canasta.
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Damn, he's heinous.


#5

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HCGLNS said:
The guys idea for a first date was dinner, drinks and Jeffrey Dahmer?
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Some girls would just eat that up!


#6

Dave

Dave

Yeah, this whole thing was a non-event. The guy had no idea she wrote this and he was very -meh- about the date. Basically he's an internet hero now and she's a pariah.

Strange that her internship ended so soon after the article was released. She says she wasn't fired, but the timing is suspect.


#7

Math242

Math242

he won a 3.5 million WSOP tournament.


#8

LittleSin

LittleSin

...yeh. Looking at a picture of this guy. The lady who wrote this is nuts. Dude is fantastic looking and nerds are always the best to date.


#9

Espy

Espy

What is up with the little pre-script at the top?

A) It's bullshit. It tries to say, "Oh the story sounds mean but it totally isn't, it's about how we learn tolerance LoL!!!11" and
B) Was it there originally or was it added after the story was posted and people realized this chick was a complete douchnozzle?


#10

LittleSin

LittleSin

I'm glad the word douchnozzle is catching on.


#11

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

ThatNickGuy said:
Some girls would just eat that up!
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Dear single attractive relative attending University of Maine. Please avoid Nick at all costs. Contact with Nick could result in severe PUN-ishment.


#12

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

LittleSin said:
...nerds are always the best to date.
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Trying to butter all of us up?


#13

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Espy said:
What is up with the little pre-script at the top?

A) It's bullshit. It tries to say, "Oh the story sounds mean but it totally isn't, it's about how we learn tolerance LoL!!!11" and
B) Was it there originally or was it added after the story was posted and people realized this chick was a complete douchnozzle?
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I think the pre-script was added after they started getting so many negative complaints about the content.


#14

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

One man show of Jeff Dahm? Where do I get tickets?

During my MTG days, I HAD to be a bitch (not like it was hard) because I was the only girl in a good 100mile radius that played in the local tournaments. Even when I went to Pre-Release tournaments, I was one of hundreds that were female. To make it worse, most of the females that WERE there, were dragged into the game by boyfriends so they weren't that good to begin with. So by the time I would entire the top 100 or so in a tournament, I was doing the solo flight again. The constant stares, the "hushed" comments, the over crowding at whatever table I was playing at, it was annoying as all hell. That was one of the reasons I stopped playing, one of a few but still it was enough.

What was the point of all that? MTG guys can be very hard to approach, mostly because their exposure to females (especially on the upper crust of playing levels) is extremely limited. I'm almost sure this guy wasn't just shut down for his gaming choice, it was almost assuredly his choice of entertainment for the night and some extremely awkward/creepy vibe come ons.


#15

Dave

Dave

AshburnerX said:
I think the pre-script was added after they started getting so many negative complaints about the content.
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Yup. Totally added afterwards.


#16

Espy

Espy

It just makes it look worse IMO. This is, without a doubt, a terrible article and if they had any intelligence they wouldn't have published it. At the very least they should have just deleted it. I mean shit people, complaining about "nerds" on "gawker"??? Good grief. Thats like a complaining about chocolate on a dessert blog.


#17

Dave

Dave

Espy said:
It just makes it look worse IMO. This is, without a doubt, a terrible article and if they had any intelligence they wouldn't have published it. At the very least they should have just deleted it. I mean shit people, complaining about "nerds" on "gawker"??? Good grief. Thats like a complaining about chocolate on a dessert blog.
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It is an op/ed piece. I rather doubt Gawker even looked twice at it before they let it be posted.


#18

Espy

Espy

Very true. After a quick google search it sounds like it was trolling done specifically to up their hit count.

Bravo Gawker, bravo. Be proud. You are the prettiest troll on the web today.


#19

GasBandit

GasBandit

Espy said:
Very true. After a quick google search it sounds like it was trolling done specifically to up their hit count.

Bravo Gawker, bravo. Be proud. You are the prettiest troll on the web today.
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I dug her picture up on GIS... she's not hideous or anything, but she's not exactly a supermodel either.



#20

Espy

Espy

She's smart though.


#21

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Wow.

And I thought I was a douche on blind dates.


#22

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I wouldn't hit it, and I'm particularlly fond of white/blonde women.....


#23

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Hoodie: Strike One
Old Woman Scarf: Strike Two
Sans Makeup: Strike Three...


#24



makare

Oh come on, making fun of how she looks/dresses? I expect better of you guys. Better insults anyway. What cheap shots.


#25

Tress

Tress

makare said:
Oh come on, making fun of how she looks/dresses? I expect better of you guys. Better insults anyway. What cheap shots.
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I can still make fun of her for being a shallow dumbass, right?


#26

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The way people dress is wide open for warfare.

Then again, humor is lost on many.
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Tress said:
I can still make fun of her for being a shallow dumbass, right?
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But that is not her fault, her shallow, dumb-ass Dad reared her that way.


#27



makare

Tress said:
I can still make fun of her for being a shallow dumbass, right?
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Yes, please do.


#28

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I think you missed the very obvious sarcasm of the cheapshots there makare.


#29

Baerdog

Baerdog

I bet she eats steak and wipes her butt the wrong way too.


#30



makare

Shegokigo said:
I think you missed the very obvious sarcasm of the cheapshots there makare.
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Well turnabout is fairplay I guess since people have not realized that I too was joking.


#31

GasBandit

GasBandit

makare said:
Oh come on, making fun of how she looks/dresses? I expect better of you guys. Better insults anyway. What cheap shots.
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All I was saying is she's not attractive enough to pull dates with multimillionaires with regularity. Debra Lafave got to be "to pretty for prison," but this girl isn't pretty enough to be a bitch and not get called on it.


#32



Chibibar

Well...... I think she is a total douche to publish that article.

The article is mean.


#33

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

makare said:
Well turnabout is fairplay I guess since people have not realized that I too was joking.
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Well, your form needs work then. Will pay closer attention next time I suppose.


#34

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker



#35

Jay

Jay

Before anything else, that picture.... ouch. Some women do feel entitled for looking mediocre at best.

Can't judge the guy really, good for him for winning millions of dollars and will hopefully put himself out there instead on OKCupid where women peruse the catalog of the penises. Better chances to find someone NORMAL.

Because as much as she wants to sound like she wants to find someone normal, she's one hell of a hypocrite.

What a dumbass.


#36



Chibibar

Jay said:
Before anything else, that picture.... ouch. Some women do feel entitled for looking mediocre at best.

Can't judge the guy really, good for him for winning millions of dollars and will hopefully put himself out there instead on OKCupid where women peruse the catalog of the penises. Better chances to find someone NORMAL.

Because as much as she wants to sound like she wants to find someone normal, she's one hell of a hypocrite.

What a dumbass.
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What is normal? What people consider normal may consider it odd to them. We play games (at least most of us on the forum does) I'm reaching 40 and still play video games. I buy tons of game on Steam (303 and counting) Is that normal? to my wife it is, but to the "public" maybe not. To my family? nope! (Asian conservative)

Some nerds are eccentric. An Editor for Gizmodo should KNOW that. She is pretty much trying to blast a guy but end up looking like a moron herself.

Heck, try to date other millionaires (the guy is one) they all have their weird eccentric ways.


#37

GasBandit

GasBandit

Her next blind date -



#38

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Told me he liked Huey Lewis? Strike one
Yelled "Don't just stare at it, eat it" when we were out to dinner? Strike two
Chased me through my apt lobby, naked and swinging around a chainsaw? Strike three


#39

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Shegokigo said:
Told me he liked Huey Lewis? Strike one
Yelled "Don't just stare at it, eat it" when we were out to dinner? Strike two
Chased me through my apt lobby, naked and swinging around a chainsaw? Strike three
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"So you're saying you wouldn't go out with him again?"


#40

General Specific

General Specific

I finally have a reason to use this image!

@article author



#41

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

North_Ranger said:
Wow.

And I thought I was a douche on blind dates.
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That's because you make fun of the blind people you're with though, NR


#42

Mathias

Mathias

That article was just a boat load of nothing.

And that chick's really butt.


#43

HoboNinja

HoboNinja

Why was he even on OKCupid in the first place, that place sucks, and so does Plenty of Fish, like I am no macho man stud-muffin but the women on those sites usually make me cringe.

Also sup guys long time no see.


#44

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

It's . . . YOU! :p

Welcome back!


#45

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

HoboNinja said:
Why was he even on OKCupid in the first place, that place sucks, and so does Plenty of Fish, like I am no macho man stud-muffin but the women on those sites usually make me cringe.

Also sup guys long time no see.
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I've gotten laid more times than I can count from PoF. I wouldn't rule it out completely. I mean it's completely free and has all the ammenities of a major pay site. At least in my area it had plenty of...... fish. :csi:


#46

HoboNinja

HoboNinja

I am pretty sure Iowa is just too full of ugly people.

I dunno though I am getting to the point where I may just check out w4m on craigslist because I suck at talking to random women in public.


#47



Biannoshufu

Shegokigo said:
I wouldn't hit it, and I'm particularlly fond of white/blonde women.....
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her face is kinda skewed.


#48

Math242

Math242

6-7 beers beforehand and doggystile only or no deal.


#49

Tress

Tress

Math242 said:
6-7 beers beforehand and doggystile only or no deal.
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#50

Math242

Math242

always !


#51

strawman

strawman

She's bitter because he didn't ask her out for a third date, and now he's the big fish that got away for her.

It's quite a public troll. If she wanted to approach this journalistically she wouldn't have called him out specifically, and would have changed references so readers understood he's a millionaire due to his geeky obsession, but not make it easy for readers to know who and what obsession she was talking about.

She's hurt, not because he wasn't the guy for her, or because the dating site is stupid for not including one's job description (seriously? She didn't see what his job description said?), but because she was rejected, and not just by anyone, but a *geek*.

That's got to hurt, and her answer is to try and hurt back. It backfired quite brilliantly, though.

And the funny thing is that she is likely the kind of girl that would get along better with a geek than with a jock.


#52

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

HoboNinja said:
Why was he even on OKCupid in the first place, that place sucks, and so does Plenty of Fish, like I am no macho man stud-muffin but the women on those sites usually make me cringe.

Also sup guys long time no see.
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I met my wife on Plenty of Fish. :p


#53

Piotyr

Piotyr

Azurephoenix said:
I met my wife on Plenty of Fish. :p
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Odds are, so did Shego.


#54

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Piotyr said:
Odds are, so did Shego.
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Never tell me the odds...


#55

Jay

Jay

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/a...ed-us-that-women-can-be-predators-online-too/

Karma is a bitch.



#56



Chibibar

Jay said:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/a...ed-us-that-women-can-be-predators-online-too/

Karma is a bitch.
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Ooo burn!! :)


#57

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Can't click the link, laaaaame.


#58



Chibibar

Alyssa Bereznak is making us females look bad. I’m ashamed on behalf of our sex that she said those bitchy things. In her article, she accuses a world champion of Magic: The Gathering of being a liar and a creep. In reality, her predatory and trollish behaviour makes her the creepy one.
First of all, let me say up front that I totally buy the stigma associated with online dating. I know online dating sites like RSVP have been around for yonks now, but I can’t help but think that it’s for desperados — a last resort. Alyssa’s piece about her OKCupid experience serves as a reminder that there’s a good chance you’ll end up wasting your time on someone like her, whose elitist attitude you would have not been interested in from the get-go had you met her in a real-life situation.

Earlier this month, I came home drunk and made an OKCupid profile. What the hell, I thought. I’m busy, I’m single, and everybody’s doing it. Sure, I’d heard horror stories, but what was the worst that could happen?​
The fact that you don’t know when you’ve had too much alcohol already says a lot about you. Any guy will tell you that there’s nothing more unattractive than a drunk girl falling all over the place and having no idea how stupid she looks. The fact that you don’t know your limits when it comes to alcohol — and that you’re using being drunk to justify your actions — doesn’t make you look very credible.
There’s no point wondering what terrible things could have happened. The worst that did happen in this situation was that you joined OKCupid and f**ked with some poor guy’s head and then publicly humiliated him. You talk about OKCupid being like “the online equivalent to hanging out alone in a dark, date-rapey bar”, but you just made yourself out to be the predator. You were obviously desperate enough to continue trolling OKCupid well after you sobered up and realised and you had no legitimate reason for being on there. It’s no wonder men always complain about women playing mind games. You managed to reinforce a stereotype that some of us have worked so hard to disassociate ourselves with.
I’ll readily admit that if he’s anything remotely like how Alyssa described him (which I doubt), I probably wouldn’t be interested in him romantically myself. That doesn’t mean I don’t think he’d be a cool friend to have — the people I hang out with the most are nerds of some kind, but I’m only really sexually attracted to blokey blokes. You know, the manly types that look good without trying too hard and aren’t fussed about having a bit of a belly. In any case, everyone has an ego, and crushing someone’s modest expectations of themselves is unnecessary let alone damaging to the self-esteem.
That’s why I find it so appalling that you laughed when he said he was the world champion of Magic: The Gathering. Why would you do that? Any other person would have been genuinely curious, and I would have been nothing less than excited to learn more about a game I’ve heard so much about, yet know so little of. It’s not easy to be good at something, let alone be the world champion at it.
It really is a shame you forgot to Google him before you had dinner with him. Perhaps then you might have given him the respect that he deserves. I agree that disclosing your marital status and any kids in an online dating profile is mandatory, but calling him a liar for not putting down the fact that he’s a world champion at something is unfair. I call that being modest — a highly desirable attribute, and one that you seem to lack.
As you suggested, being so shallow that you couldn’t see past his world title led you to make the truth look like fiction. If you walked away from the second date thinking that he was nothing more than “a champion dweeb in hedge funder’s clothing”, then that’s your fault. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he was in hedge funder’s clothing because he actually, you know, works for a hedge fund company. I doubt that a guy who’s intelligent enough to be in a job like that is so socially retarded that he’s unable to make conversation about anything other than Magic: The Gathering. And if he was, I’m sure you wouldn’t have hesitated to make a point of it in your slanderous article. Sometimes, guys need to be prodded into speaking about themselves. From what you’ve written, it’s clear that you failed completely at making proper conversation with him.
You not only accuse him of lying in his profile, you also accuse him of “infiltrat[ing] his way into OKCupid dates” with two people you know. Yes, it is strange, which is why I would have gone out of my way to ask him about it rather than make nasty assumptions about him online. You judged him so harshly and publicly without giving concrete reasons as to why we should believe you.
So what can we all learn from Alyssa’s rant? She’s a narcissist who you would probably not want to date, women can be predators online too, and be assured that her experience is the exception rather than the rule.
To the Magic champ: I’d love to hear your side of the story. Dinner?


#59

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Chibi, you're a girl now?


#60

Tress

Tress

Quotemander Prime said:
Chibi, you're a girl now?
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He re-posted the article from the link. And he probably should have made that more clear.


#61



Chibibar

Tress said:
He re-posted the article from the link. And he probably should have made that more clear.
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Whoops. that was suppose to include Shego's comment. my bad :)

And no. I'm not a girl, even tho my wife keep saying that I act more girlish and she does.
I like chick flicks and she love zombie horror flicks.


#62



Biannoshufu

from wired

On My Dates With the Hopelessly Mundane Alyssa Bereznak

  • September 1, 2011 |
  • 8:00 am |
  • Categories: People

A littlewhile ago, in a moment of weakness, I made an OkCupid profile. It couldn’t hurt, I thought: I’m busy, I’m single, and most of the women I run into at game nights and cons either are already with someone or not interested in a commitment. Two weeks into the experiment, I was beginning to think OkCupid needed some basic English proficiency tests before letting people sign up. Even the women who managed to produce messages with decent grammar seemed to always write “your” when they meant “you’re” or use “U” in place of “you,” and when they bothered to mention anything about the TV shows, movies, or games I listed as my favorites, it was usually to ask “What about Twilight?” and never to say anything clever like “So say we all!” or “I’ve got two sheep, and I’m looking for a brick.”

So when I got a message from someone named Alyssa that closed with “May the force be with you,” I figured that, even though she hadn’t used a capital ‘F’ she was probably geeky enough to be interesting. I gave her my name and she gave me hers — I Googled her, of course, but all that came up were a few articles on Salon and Gizmodo, which wasn’t much to go on but I figured anyone who wrote for Gizmodo was probably at least interested in technology.

We met for a drink a few days later. She was fairly attractive — not a supermodel, but they’re too thin anyway. We started talking about the usual first date stuff: family, work, college, hobbies. She said she likes to play tennis. I jokingly replied that I prefer Settlers of Catan; she didn’t react to that, just kind of let it go, as though she didn’t know what I was talking about and didn’t care enough to ask.

Somehow we got onto the topic of TV shows we liked that weren’t around any more. I mentioned Firefly, of course, which she clearly didn’t know anything about, so in an effort to describe it I asked if she’d ever watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She said she’d seen an episode or two but really preferred Twilight.

I laughed. That’s really funny, preferring Twilight to Buffy. She had an ironic sense of humor just like me — this was great.

Then I saw the look on her face. She wasn’t kidding. She really did prefer Twilight. Oy.
Well, OK, so her taste in vampire fiction left something to be desired. That was OK, she’d quoted Star Wars to me. So I asked her who her favorite character from the films was. She said maybe the one played by Natalie Portman, but she hadn’t seen any of the movies in years. I asked her why she’d put “May the force be with you” in her message; she admitted it was the only line she remembered from the movies and had put it there hoping I’d think it was funny.

After our first date I thought about it. Shouldn’t you have to mention in your online profile if you’re hopelessly mundane? Whether or not you like Twilight should be one of the first questions on any woman’s profile. I mean, before asking if you have kids. Still, maybe she still had some geeky qualities that just were hidden somehow. It wouldn’t be fair to write her off without making sure.

So we met for dinner, and I got right down to it. What was her favorite board game? “Monopoly.” Strike one. Her favorite nonfiction TV show? “Dancing With the Stars.” Strike two. Her favorite funny t-shirt? “Oh, I don’t like wearing shirts with words on them.” Strike three. It was clear she was just about the most boringly mundane person I’d ever met. I tried to enjoy dinner, but I wasn’t really interested in hearing about how she thought they were going to deal with replacing Charlie Sheen with Ashton Kutcher on Two and a Half Men, so I knew there was no way this was going anywhere.

Geek moms and dads, warn your kids! You’ll think you’ve found someone who can at least tell the different Star Trek series apart, but she’ll turn out to be a mundane who can’t even explain the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars. Someone who doesn’t care that Han shot first. Someone who likes Twilight. So make sure they ask up front. Because some people are just never going to be geeks.

Note: This article is a work of satire and should in no way be construed as a statement of fact. If you’re unaware of the context, this GeekMom article should help.
Twilight image copyright Little, Brown and Company.
Monopoly image copyright Hasbro.
Dancing With the Stars image copyright ABC.

And the man strikes back?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20100604-501465.html


#63



Chibibar

I love it!


#64

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Oh that was fantastic. I was hoping it was really a guy that dated her and found out about her idiocy, so he turned it around on her from their date.

Still, I love how much hate this dumb bitch is getting.


#65



Biannoshufu

Jon Finkel talks to us about Gizmodo's Alyssa Bereznak (a.k.a. mean girl)

By​
Chenda Ngak​
Topics​
Wired for Women​

Jon Finkel picture at the Magic: The Gathering world championship in 2000​
(Credit: YouTube/Alicabob)​
(CBS) - Monday was a crazy day on the East Coast. We were recovering from an earthquake and a hurricane. Many of us couldn't make it into the office on time or at all. It was also the day that Gizmodo intern
Alyssa Bereznak posted an article​

trashing a guy she met on dating site OKCupid.

Gizmodo mean girl bashes OKCupid date for no reason​
He seemed like a nice fellow, except for a few things that did not fit her taste. Top of the list being his accomplishments as a world champion of the collectible card game Magic: The Gathering. Instead of quietly judging him and moving on with her life, she decided to write a post about him and reveal his name on tech blog Gizmodo, which garners 1.8 million unique visitors.​
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Cards used in the game Magic: The Gathering​
(Credit: Flickr/magoexperto)​

Jon Finkel thought he left his life as a world champion behind him. While he never hid the fact he was a Magic hero of sorts, it was something that happened 10 years ago. He didn't feel it necessary to attach the world champion title to his current accomplishments, which includes being a partner at a hedge fund in New Jersey, FYI.​

When we recounted her post with anger (that's right, we were peeved), it was the end of the day and it seemed like the story would just go away overnight. But, we weren't the only ones who thought Bereznak crossed the line by linking to Finkel's personal information and stepped into cyberbullying territory. The story did not go away. By Tuesday, it had made its rounds, and publications like Forbes and the Washington Post reported it, too.​

The publicity prompted the popular link sharing website Reddit to request that Finkel do an Ask Me Anything (AMA) post, where users ask questions and the subject answers as many as they desire. You'll find the highlights from his AMA at the end of this post.​

We reached out to Finkel and asked him a few questions of our own. He was getting ready for a tournament and was kind enough to give us answers via email.​

Our exclusive Q&A with Jon Finkel​
CN: We noticed that Alyssa's internship ended. If she was fired over the post, do you think it was a fair move by Gizmodo?​
JF: I think it's unlikely. It's the end of the summer so a lot of internships are ending now. I think she alluded to something of the sort when we talked, but I couldn't say for sure.​
CN: We know you felt your privacy was violated. Are there any tips that you'd like to pass on to anyone who might encounter this type of public exposure?​
JF: My main advice would be to have an army of game-loving fans who remember you from your glory days 10 years ago. Probably also, and this is good generic life advice, "try not to be a [jerk]." If she'd posted about me being a real [jerk], things might have developed differently. But I suppose this sort of stuff could happen to anyone with a large enough Google footprint, even if they are a "Grade D Celebrity."​
CN: Do you think you were a victim of cyberbullying?​
JF: I mean not really. 18-year-old Jon might have thought that, especially if it had been a girl that he had been really into, or had left himself vulnerable to, rather than just an uneventful, say goodbye forever kind of date.​
CN: As of today, has she contacted you to apologize?​
JF: Nope.​
CN: On a lighter note. What are you looking for in a woman? Do you have a type?​
JF: I always think people backwards rationalize their lists. My main criterion is, "When I wake up in the morning, do I want to see/call her?" That being said, I think I've devolved my list into two main things that I think everything else follows from: "Self awareness and intellectual curiosity."​
CN: Can you describe what a perfect date might be like?​
JF: Someone smarter than me once said, "All good dates are the same but all bad dates are different." You just know when it's good - the details fade away. Oh, that and Jeffrey Dahmer-based One Man Shows.​
CN: Playboy model Sara Jean Underwood asked you out on "Attack of the Show." Are you going to take the date offer? Ha ha...sorry. I had to ask. I think the entire Internet wants to see that date happen.​
JF: I definitely don't want to let down the Internet. I would definitely be down to go on a date with her, but not if it's televised (sorry everyone). Just not my thing.​
CN: Good luck on your tournament! And have a good holiday weekend.​
JF: Thanks. Here's to hoping I make grandpa proud!​

What does Bereznak and Gawker have to say?​
About an hour after her initial blog post went up, Bereznak was already defending herself. ​
She tweeted, "dudes, i don't think it's bad to be a dweeb. i just dont want to date someone i can't relate to. not an attack. more a cautionary tale."[sic]​

On Wednesday, we learned that her internship at Gizmodo was over when Bereznak tweeted this announcement , "@gizmodo didn't fire me. my internship ended friday. sorry to disappoint you all."[sic]​

We reached out to Gawker Media to see if there were any repercussions and how the company feels about her decision to reveal Finkel's name. They declined to comment.​

Highlights from Jon Finkel's Reddit AMA​
Here are a few of the most pointed questions and answers (edited for grammar).​
What was your first reaction upon reading her post about you? - Scarker​
I felt a little, I dunno, violated. Even though the post itself didn't make me look bad at all (at least I didn't think). Still, it's sort of like someone publishing emails you wrote to your girlfriend, or posting part of your diary - it just feels wrong​
Are you upset that she revealed your identity in the article, or do you think that ultimately this is going to work out for you with the great publicity? - OilGuy13​
It's nice to know the Internet has my back, so in total it looks like it was a net positive, though I still feel oddly creeped out by it.​
How many girls have asked you out since this all exploded? I noticed Felicia Day in your Twitter; did she say something to you? - kbilly​
If you include Twitter messages from other continents saying 'Id date you', then a lot. As for Felicia Day, it appears she made a tweet or two about it, but I don't really know much about her, except that she seems like a lovely woman who is apparently loved by gamers.​
Did she tell you she was a blogger? Did she hint maybe she would post about the date? - sweetgreggo​
Yes and No.​
Did Gizmodo contact you at all about disclosing your name? - clifwith1f​
Nope, although it looks like one of their editors just sent me an email 15 minutes ago, but I haven't really had time to sift through all my emails. This is already cutting into valuable [Pro Tour] Philly test time - which is the initial reason I took off work today.​

What can you do if you've been bashed publicly?​
We asked clinical psychologist Dr. Leah Lagos, Psy.D, to advise anyone who has experienced a public bashing and violation of privacy.​
"Online dating, particularly for men, can test their self-esteem. Because it's often the men who do the asking it is often the men who are more vulnerable to rejection. The key here is to remain detached from the outcome," Dr. Lagos stated. "Strong emotional reactions on a first date, like love or hate, are likely to reflect the most about the person experiencing them. People sometimes forget that making oneself vulnerable is an inherently anxiety provoking experience."​
This is typically a non-news item, except for the fact that it addresses social etiquette in an ever-evolving online culture. We have a responsibility to point out a line when it's been crossed.​


#66

Tress

Tress

What I can't get over is how a soon-to-be-unemployed intern for a tech blog decided that her shit doesn't stink, while thinking it was a good idea to bash a millionaire hedge-fund partner based solely on the fact that he used to be a world champion at a card game.


#67



Chibibar

He seems pretty cool about it (I guess you have to be when you are champion. I can imagine the stress in some of those games)

I think the story did give him positive exposure (unintentional) but really ruin Alyssa's rep tho. It is like Alexander Wallace ruining her rep :)
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Tress said:
What I can't get over is how a soon-to-be-unemployed intern for a tech blog decided that her shit doesn't stink, while thinking it was a good idea to bash a millionaire hedge-fund partner based solely on the fact that he used to be a world champion at a card game.
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Either way, with the way of the internet and people google/facebook check on potential worker, she is in a world of hurt in her future.


#68

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Sara Jean Underwood asked him out? That's an upgrade.


#69

Baerdog

Baerdog

I bet she wants to be under his wood, if you know what I'm talking about. Yeah.

Sex.

:hump:


#70

fade

fade

Wow. I read those articles, and I can't decide who is the bigger douche: the mundane vindictive bitch, or the whiny, pseudo-intellectual elistist prick?
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I mean, he whines about her crowd-following, and then he hits every cliquish geek highlight in his letter. It's like a goth kid crying about conformity while wearing the same thing all goth kids wear.


#71

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

fade said:
Wow. I read those articles, and I can't decide who is the bigger douche: the mundane vindictive bitch, or the whiny, pseudo-intellectual elistist prick?
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I mean, he whines about her crowd-following, and then he hits every cliquish geek highlight in his letter. It's like a goth kid crying about conformity while wearing the same thing all goth kids wear.
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Wasn't that second article a parody?


#72

strawman

strawman

I think people are getting all confused.

There's the original piece.

There's a parody.

There's a response on the same blog website by another girl who rips the original piece's author apart.

There's an article with a response from the guy who was targeted by the original piece.

You'll probably have to specify which one you're talking about, or quote portions of it, if you don't want anyone else to be utterly confused.

Not that confusion is a bad thing, it's par for the course around here.

:confused:


#73

fade

fade

Ah, okay. Then I retract.


#74



Chibibar

stienman said:
I think people are getting all confused.

There's the original piece.

There's a parody.

There's a response on the same blog website by another girl who rips the original piece's author apart.

There's an article with a response from the guy who was targeted by the original piece.

You'll probably have to specify which one you're talking about, or quote portions of it, if you don't want anyone else to be utterly confused.

Not that confusion is a bad thing, it's par for the course around here.

:confused:
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Original - The girl is a b
parody - awesomesauce!
Response - she did a good job :)
Guy response - he is classy, but also the article did give him some positive feedback


#75

fade

fade

Okay, then apparently I did read the right ones if Amy's quote is the guy's real response. I was talking about the original article, and the last one from the dude (if it really was from him).


#76



Chibibar

fade said:
Okay, then apparently I did read the right ones if Amy's quote is the guy's real response. I was talking about the original article, and the last one from the dude (if it really was from him).
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Amy's first one was a parody
the 2nd post is the guy's response.


#77

Jay

Jay

Fade misunderstands something? Shoooocking!


#78

fade

fade


Whatever. Your disagreement with my opinions does not constitute a misunderstanding on my part, no matter how much you'd like it to be true. I stand by my claims in other threads. I stopped reading when it became clear that no one was interested in a contrasting opinion, they just wanted to pat each other on the back about their own.


#79

Jay

Jay

fade said:
Whatever. Your disagreement with my opinions does not constitute a misunderstanding on my part, no matter how much you'd like it to be true. I stand by my claims in other threads. I stopped reading when it became clear that no one was interested in a contrasting opinion, they just wanted to pat each other on the back about their own.
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#80

fade

fade

And that's about 99% of the problem on this forum. Everyone wants to read emotion into posts that isn't there. If you guys want to have a separate opinion, go for it. I'm not going to cry about it, but don't expect me to agree with it or not debate it either. If you don't want to debate, I leave. Not out of emotion, but because it's no longer interesting, or facts I present are completely ignored. What's the point then? I'm not going to hurl personal insults.


#81

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I like your contradicting opinions Fade, it keeps the conversations going and the debates interesting. If everyone just agreed with each other all the time it'd be ridiculously boring. I know I've purposelly taken the extreme opposite side of a thread just to keep it interesting. I'm not saying you do it purposelly, I just mean that contridicting opinions keep the forums alive.

Oh yeah, and stop being so mad :p


#82

Jay

Jay

Everyone is entitled to express their opinions regardless how disagreeable their opinions can be to others. That explanation is far from the truth of things.

Now that you’ve asked, to be frank, your posts don’t even make sense more times than not. You think that the few replies you earned recently from is something new? Perhaps for some others but for me it’s been an issue for awhile now and I simply didn’t have the motivation to give a damn before I moved on to the next post after a classic “What?” expression formed on my face. I know several people felt that way at some point or another but I’ll allow them to post their thoughts themselves.

Odds are it’s the vibe you put off that gets such a negative reaction to your posts. That is certainly something noteworthy. Especially when your opinions come short simply because quite obviously you missed the point once again or didn’t bother to read other forum posters content in the same thread before you formed your own. Sometimes people felt it was disrespectful, some others comical but it has happened more times than I could count.

Furthermore, you tend to contradict yourself in your posts and you generally post in a way that is simply… off-putting. Perhaps it’s simply the way you express yourself or that your English is poor, I really can’t tell at this point.

*shrug*

In conclusion, perhaps it’s a question of being able to garnish your posts to be expressed more intelligently with some more gusto in your selection of words that would provide a tastier content to read instead of being scrolled over. You could also research your opinions a bit more and inject a dose of wisdom in the forum threads, which you’re more than welcome to, as long as it conforms to the topic at hand without seeming oddly placed once again.

However, kindly note that to contradict something once or twice every so often is completely normal. To find oneself contradicting every single time paints a person in a different light altogether.

Is this interesting enough for you now?


#83

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Interesting thing is, I actually believe fade is 90% of the time honestly on the other side of the fence, opinion wise.

However I do see his explinations for that lacking for some people's understanding of it and most of the time is written off as purposelly contridictory.


#84

MindDetective

MindDetective

I'm a lot like fade, I think, in that I tend to think of the alternatives, the opposing point of view, the counter-examples when I see people making some kind of claim. It may come across as being contradictory but it usually isn't meant to be. In part, at least, I think it is because fade and I are trained as scientists. Skepticism is critical for our jobs. We look to falsify, to prove wrong, because no matter how many friends of friends you had that said that they saw bigfoot, it doesn't make it true. And so, like fade, the first thought I often have after reading someone's post is "...but what a minute..." It isn't because I am setting out to troll people, it is a reflex. I'm not even a negative person by nature. But I am always looking for the counterexample, because they carry a lot of weight in my line of work. It may make me a little less sociable, I guess, but that's a side effect, not the intent.


#85

Jay

Jay

But as a scientist do you properly research the topic at hand before you create an opinion? Do you fully read other people's work before critising them? Do you believe in global warming?


#86

MindDetective

MindDetective

Jay said:
But as a scientist do you properly research the topic at hand before you create an opinion? Do you fully read other people's work before critising them? Do you believe in global warming?
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1.) If I am publishing a paper, yes. If I am throwing my thoughts out on a forum, no. See the thread about Gold for me arguing my point of view with very little experience in economics.

2.) If it is for my job, usually yes. If it is a forum post, I've been caught skimming before. I would think everyone has.

3.) I believe there is a warming trend. I'm coming around that it is anthropocentric, which is the bigger issue, but I've been skeptical about it for a long, long time. I am coming around on it, though, and my main issue with the climate change debate is that simply isn't an effective way to change people's behaviors. Assuming we are the cause of a warming globe, simply telling people that or invoking new regulations is not going to work very well.


#87

Dave

Dave

Ooh! A stealth edit on the spoilered picture!! How'd that happen?!?

:ninja:


#88

Espy

Espy

Dave said:
Ooh! A stealth edit on the spoilered picture!! How'd that happen?!?

:ninja:
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Must have been one sneaky mofo admin. Of course we don't have one of those so it's a mystery for the ages.


#89

fade

fade

Jay, I can't even read your post with any respect, because you've made it ironically clear in the past that you simply don't read what I write. You tend to reply to something I never said at all, or you resort to some insult. Some of what you said here isn't even true. I tend to back up everything I say with a clear example. I can't help that you don't find it clear. The arguments I get from most of the other people here indicate that they read and understood what I said, even if they don't agree. I get the impression from your posts that you read the first sentence, decided you disagreed, and then replied assuming the rest of my post was wrong. I see this because when you aren't insulting me, you tend to point to things I did in fact say. You've practically admitted to this in your own post.

I'm sorry you don't think posts that say simple things like "people seem to be okay paying for the same additional content as long as it's physically and temporally dislocated from their original purchase" are clear. That was one you threw up an image macro several times for. I couldn't see much difference then, and I can't now. If you can, good for you. Make a coherent counter-argument that consists of more than a Tommy Lee Jones image. Tell me why you think I'm wrong without spitting bile. I'd respect it and probably counter back, or concede. In any case, you seemed to particularly hate this one, and it was in direct argument to things said earlier in the thread.

As far as these "recent replies" go, really, there's only one person on this forum that tends to reply that way. You pop in after everything I say and express some kind of discontent to try to get my hackles up. It isn't working, and like this, it drags the thread off-topic.

Contradict myself? Show me. Give me an example or 2. If it's so off-putting, you ought to be able to conjure up a few examples.

I usually remain emotionally attached from these discussions, but I do find your attacks on my intelligence and English skills amusing, if nothing else. Give me some examples of my poor English and intelligence and poor research. I can certainly provide you with evidence galore that my English, intelligence, and research skills have been recognized by some fairly high authorities.


#90

Jay

Jay

Read the first line... lost interest as I disagreed with you not having respect for me since you obviously had in replying to my trollbait with that long post. The rest of the content is therefor invalid.

This above post lacked a well planned out opening which could have been taken care of easily with some proper research.... again.


#91

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

When did this thread turn into a Halforums version of the View?


#92

Frank

Frankie Williamson

This shit ain't the view, it's The Talk.

Jay is the chick from King of Queens.

(I don't know if The Talk is a real show, I only know they made fun of it on SNL)


#93

Jay

Jay

Hey, there are worse things Leah Remini.



#94

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

I'm not sure which is funnier, the idea that Jay is Rosie O'donnel or Jay is married to Kevin James on TV.


#95

fade

fade

Jay said:
Read the first line... lost interest as I disagreed with you not having respect for me since you obviously had in replying to my trollbait with that long post. The rest of the content is therefor invalid.

This above post lacked a well planned out opening which could have been taken care of easily with some proper research.... again.
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The irony is palpable. Nothing here makes sense. No respect is needed to read something and argue with it. I said I couldn't read it with respect, not that I couldn't read it. Like Quigley with the handguns. He said he didn't like them, not that he couldn't shoot them. The remaining irony is that you pretty much summed up my entire post that you didn't read in your response, kind of confirming what I said.

Actually, MindDetective hit it on the head anyway. I don't need to research to call into question a point of view. If you believe that, then you must also invalidate most of the world's court systems, peer reviews, graduate defenses, education systems, etc. I don't have to prove that you did it, I only have to prove that my client didn't.

If it was trollbait, whoop-de-doo. Congratulations, I guess. I guess that tricking someone into arguing is somehow a win?


#96

Espy

Espy

:awesome:... Hey guys whats this thread about?

*reads*

:Leyla:


#97



Chibibar

good gravy y'all!


#98

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

fade said:
I get the impression from your posts that you read the first sentence, decided you disagreed, and then replied assuming the rest of my post was wrong.
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Jay said:
Read the first line... lost interest as I disagreed with you not having respect for me since you obviously had in replying to my trollbait with that long post. The rest of the content is therefor invalid.
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I can't tell if you did that on purpose.


#99

evilmike

evilmike

mr_thehun said:
So... theres a girl out there who won't date nerds?
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It's true! And, worse yet, she hasn't done anything further to embarrass herself in days. The internet may move on.


#100



Biannoshufu

I usually hate fade's opinions because they differ than mine and that clearly makes him a horrible person.

But this thread is a win for him.


#101

@Li3n

@Li3n

mr_thehun said:
So... theres a girl out there who won't date nerds?
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Also, find MTG worse then Jeffrey Dahmer...


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