Greatest sci fi of the decade??

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Haha, the pissy pants got kicked into high gear in here, huh.

As for the distinctions: I'm talking from a writer's /aesthetic perspective. From a technical point, there is a distinction. But really, in the end, who fucking cares what bargain bin you find it in? Genres melt, mold, molt, conform, combine, and inspire. Such is art.

Also, oh my god Children of Men is a beautifully shot, masterfully acted and well-written. SO much better than Serenity.
One is a pulp space western and one is a high drama science fiction oscar gold flick. I think they are both great films but for widely different reasons and for me comparing them would be almos impossible t.
 
Watch Y Tu Mamá También, which is were Cuarón made the Children of Men style first. Where it was still original and not since copied by a trillion different indie films. The same far shots with every dialog, the same camera movements. He recycled his own work. And then took the script idea from any number of apocalyptic movies with a Y: The Last Man essence that feels dirty... unclean... stale.

Nevermind the completely predictable script, that I can even forgive if the ride is worth it. But it's not. It's stale and boring is what it is.
Children of men was based off of a book that was published 10 years before Y: the last man.
 
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Andromache

I don't like Whedon's fakely peppy dialogue
It's nice to have these little encapsulated reminders of why I can't stand you.

Haha, the pissy pants got kicked into high gear in here, huh.
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As for the distinctions: I'm talking from a writer's /aesthetic perspective. From a technical point, there is a distinction.
its like Booger from nerds just put on coke bottle glasses and started defending his view on computer programming.

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One is a pulp space western and one is a high drama science fiction oscar gold flick. I think they are both great films but for widely different reasons and for me comparing them would be almos impossible t.
my reigning criteria for great films is how often I'll rewatch them AI was a great film, that I cant bear to watch, whereas I watch fakey preppy Serenity at least once a month. Escapist fiction is sooo lowbrow, right?
 
Oddly enough, given the murdering contempt you have for me, our criteria for how good a film is seems to be the same. I'd never sit through Children of Men again, yet I'd never switch the channel if I ran into Hook.

Yes, I think Hook is vastly superior than Children of Men.
 

ElJuski

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Haha, the pissy pants got kicked into high gear in here, huh.

As for the distinctions: I'm talking from a writer's /aesthetic perspective. From a technical point, there is a distinction. But really, in the end, who fucking cares what bargain bin you find it in? Genres melt, mold, molt, conform, combine, and inspire. Such is art.

Also, oh my god Children of Men is a beautifully shot, masterfully acted and well-written. SO much better than Serenity.
One is a pulp space western and one is a high drama science fiction oscar gold flick. I think they are both great films but for widely different reasons and for me comparing them would be almos impossible t.[/QUOTE]

Well, you can't compare apples and oranges. But you can say that the orange tasted much better. I've had better apples.

oh god what am I doing.

Also Crone: I know, all my school learnuns is smoke up the ass. I cope.

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Also, there's definitely a time and a place for low brow fare. There's still a way to do "dumb" right...or wrong...or decent...or anything else. Just being "low brow" doesn't concede it's entertainment, but it shouldn't make it impossible to criticize either.
 
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Haha, the pissy pants got kicked into high gear in here, huh.

As for the distinctions: I'm talking from a writer's /aesthetic perspective. From a technical point, there is a distinction. But really, in the end, who fucking cares what bargain bin you find it in? Genres melt, mold, molt, conform, combine, and inspire. Such is art.

Also, oh my god Children of Men is a beautifully shot, masterfully acted and well-written. SO much better than Serenity.
One is a pulp space western and one is a high drama science fiction oscar gold flick. I think they are both great films but for widely different reasons and for me comparing them would be almos impossible t.
Well, you can't compare apples and oranges. But you can say that the orange tasted much better. I've had better apples.

oh god what am I doing.
I DON'T KNOW:Leyla:
Well, thats the thing, you CAN compare apples and oranges, both are fruit, but in the end they have enough differences that the comparison go only go so far.

Also, there's definitely a time and a place for low brow fare. There's still a way to do "dumb" right...or wrong...or decent...or anything else. Just being "low brow" doesn't concede it's entertainment, but it shouldn't make it impossible to criticize either.
Oh, Serenity/Firefly is totally open to criticism. I know it has some really weak stuff in it, but I love the characters and the dialogue the designs, etc. Why? It speaks to the pulp lover in me, I grew up reading sci-fi and horror trash and it really brings all that to life for me.

Also @Crone: Once a month???? Wow... I mean, I love Firefly/Serenity and we do at least a yearly watch through of the whole thing but I don't think there is anything I can watch once a month.
 

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I don't like Whedon's fakely peppy dialogue
It's nice to have these little encapsulated reminders of why I can't stand you.

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I said "fakely peppy", not "fakey preppy". Kind of a big difference. It's also a big leap to assume that I was calling it lowbrow (or that I think lowbrow is bad) just because I don't like that dialogue style.

But you're right. A difference of opinion on a movie is an awesome reason to dislike someone.
 
Haha, the pissy pants got kicked into high gear in here, huh.
So, how's Charlie's cock taste this time of year?

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Like chocolate, rainbows, and bunnies. It's all the fur that makes it bunny flavored (guess it's that Easter-y time of year and all)...right, Juski, my main gay man? *high five* Just like furry, chocolate covered Skittles. DELICOUS.
 
in the last year and a half, I've probably watched Talledega Nights on average, once a week.
What.[/QUOTE]

I have a group of friends that all love the movie. A lot of party nights we end up starting off watching it, and then watching it possibly again at like 2-3am when we're all passing out/most people have gone. It's just a go-to movie. Whenever people visit or new/different friends of ours are around that haven't seen it, we have to show it to them. It's just monumentally funny and gets funnier every single time we watch it. And funnier if you play the shake and bake drinking game.
 
in the last year and a half, I've probably watched Talledega Nights on average, once a week.
What.[/QUOTE]

I have a group of friends that all love the movie. A lot of party nights we end up starting off watching it, and then watching it possibly again at like 2-3am when we're all passing out/most people have gone. It's just a go-to movie. Whenever people visit or new/different friends of ours are around that haven't seen it, we have to show it to them. It's just monumentally funny and gets funnier every single time we watch it. And funnier if you play the shake and bake drinking game.[/QUOTE]

I just... I'm a movie lover. There are movies I adore. I just can't see watching anything with that frequency, no matter how great. It's just mind-boggling.
 

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Talladega Nights was stupid, and I felt dumber for having watched it. Thankfully it was on tv.
 
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Andromache

I don't like Whedon's fakely peppy dialogue
It's nice to have these little encapsulated reminders of why I can't stand you.

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I said "fakely peppy", not "fakey preppy". Kind of a big difference. It's also a big leap to assume that I was calling it lowbrow (or that I think lowbrow is bad) just because I don't like that dialogue style.

But you're right. A difference of opinion on a movie is an awesome reason to dislike someone.[/QUOTE]


it's not the only reason, just a reminder of the many, many reasons.
 
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Andromache

in the last year and a half, I've probably watched Talledega Nights on average, once a week.
What.[/QUOTE]

I have a group of friends that all love the movie. A lot of party nights we end up starting off watching it, and then watching it possibly again at like 2-3am when we're all passing out/most people have gone. It's just a go-to movie. Whenever people visit or new/different friends of ours are around that haven't seen it, we have to show it to them. It's just monumentally funny and gets funnier every single time we watch it. And funnier if you play the shake and bake drinking game.[/QUOTE]

wow, now I don't feel so bad. Thanks Chuck, you're a stand up fellar.

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I love Talledaga Nights. :angry:
I love your wife in ways that offend the Lord. Doesn't make it right, either. :)
 
I had to look up the year for Dark City.
If it had been released 2000-2010 but wasn't on there, I would have lost complete faith in that list. Dark City is an absolutely perfect 1950's pulp Sci-Fi novel plot faithfully translated directly to screen. Yes, even better than Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.

**Frequency
**Titan A.E.
**Artificial Intelligence: AI
**Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
*Minority Report (have the VHS, haven't watched it yet)
**Animatrix (reminded me a lot of Heavy Metal but with more coherence)
Paycheck
Innocence: Ghost in the Shell
*Serenity (have the DVD, haven't watched it yet)
*The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (have DVD on loan, haven't watched it yet)
War of The Worlds (starring Dakota Fanning and some dude) (Did you mean ?)
*A Scanner Darkly (mostly curious about this one)
*The Children of Men (have DVD on loan, haven't watched it yet)
*I am Legend (want to see for myself)
**Iron Man
*Star Trek (again, curiosity)
*District 9 (really want to see this one)
*Moon (want to at least rent it someday and watch it with Kati)
*=movie I want to see, **=movie

Man, but I'm behind in my viewing.

--Patrick
 

ElJuski

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Haha, the pissy pants got kicked into high gear in here, huh.
So, how's Charlie's cock taste this time of year?

[/Chazzing][/QUOTE]

Like chocolate, rainbows, and bunnies. It's all the fur that makes it bunny flavored (guess it's that Easter-y time of year and all)...right, Juski, my main gay man? *high five* Just like furry, chocolate covered Skittles. DELICOUS.[/QUOTE]

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Hmm this appears to be only for movies.

There were far better scifi tv shows this past decade, i.e. Firefly, Farscape, Doctor Who (2005 relaunch), Lost, etc, than there movies
 
You can't really compare a tv show to a movie... But if we have to, Children of Men and District 9 are so good I can't agree with you.
 
My definition of sci-fi would include the so-called "soft" sci-fi, which I feel definitely includes films like Serenity and Pitch Black.

I would not include Avatar, personally, because that movie really irritated me, but I understand why some would.

District 9, yes.

Children of Men, yes.

Present-day setting super-hero movies, I would not include as sci-fi, even Iron-man.

Minority Report, yes.

Animatrix, not exactly a movie, but it would be an honorable mention here. Pity the Matrix was 1999.

Innocence: Ghost in the Shell, I would substitute with the SAC movie, which I think is better, personally. If we're allowing double-dipping, I would have both.

A Scanner Darkly, yes.

Star Trek, hell yeah.

Sunshine, more Boyle love here.

I haven't seen Moon, so no comment.

The Prestige is sort of a sleeper sci-fi movie, but I think it counts.

Cloverfield is borderline horror, but in the end, I think it counts.


Oh, and don't forget the greatest science fiction movie of them all, An Inconvenient Truth.

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Am I the only one who hasn't seen Serenity? =(

Anywho... I really really liked Children of Men, it's definitely in my top 10 or so.

Moon, I absolutely LOVED. It's the kinda movie that leaves you with a longlasting bittersweet aftertaste. I loved it.
My hat comes off for District 9 as well, first of all I loved that it wasn't set in NY or Washington or anywhere in the States, that's such a cliché, I can't stand it anymore. Second of all, well, the story, the acting, the photography, everything is great.
Paprika I also liked BUT I personally don't see it as sci-fi it's pretty much just fantasy, really bizarre and colorful, just like I like 'em.
Cloverfield sucked. So many inconsistencies, so pretencious, prrrrt.
 
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