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How's that hope and change working out?

Mar 29, 2014#1

MisterSteve

Just had to point and laugh at all the libs that voted for Obama.

Mar 29, 2014#2

Gilgamesh

MisterSteve said:
Just had to point and laugh at all the libs that voted for Obama.

Better than Romney.
So yeah, not great but definitely could have been worse.

Mar 29, 2014#3

Tress

Mar 29, 2014#4

PatrThom

Oh hey, I thought this MrSteve was a myth.

FWIW, I'll vote better when we start getting better candidates. Until then, I'll keep voting for whomever it seems will screw us over the least.

--Patrick

Mar 29, 2014#5

Gilgamesh

@Tress - I was getting bored with Naiwen crying in the corner and Charlie still putting aloe vera on his burns. A fresh troll is just what I was looking for.

Mar 29, 2014#6

ThatNickGuy

Well hell, I didn't vote for the guy.

Mar 29, 2014#7

Ravenpoe

Mar 30, 2014#8

Krisken

Fuckin hell, the other guy I had on ignore for being a pompous ass. That will learn me to remove people when they don`t post for over a year.

Edit: fixed.

Mar 30, 2014#9

Covar

PatrThom said:
Oh hey, I thought this MrSteve was a myth.

FWIW, I'll vote better when we start getting better candidates. Until then, I'll keep voting for whomever it seems will screw us over the least.

--Patrick

Better idea, just show up to the polls and don't vote for one of the big two candidates. All you're doing there is saying you're ok with the politician you voted for. People who vote "for the lesser of two evils" are only supporting the existing system. Vote for a third party or leave the ballot blank. Show that you care, but are not satisified.

Mar 30, 2014#10

Mathias

MisterSteve said:
Just had to point and laugh at all the libs that voted for Obama.

Mar 30, 2014#11

phil

Edit: listen, I originally was replying to Mathias but I'm on my phone and the quote got garbled and now I can't get rid of the picture so it looks like I'm just also posting the image, which would be weird to do.

So I looked at his post history and it's actually kind of amazing. He either makes new threads with this exact title or posts on 9/11.

I feel like that's a certain amount of dedication.

Mar 30, 2014#12

Tinwhistler

obvious troll is obvious.

Mar 30, 2014#13

Gilgamesh

He'a also an alt I'm sure.

Mar 30, 2014#14

Tress

For a moment I thought I was reading the comments section on a Yahoo! news article.

Mar 30, 2014#15

PatrThom

PatrThom said:
I'll keep voting for whomever it seems will screw us over the least.

Covar said:
Better idea, just show up to the polls and don't vote for one of the big two candidates.

Like I said, whoever will screw us over the least..

--Patrick

Mar 30, 2014#16

GasBandit

Mar 30, 2014#17

Chad Sexington

Trollin' trollin' trollin'
Keep them users trollin'
Halforums!

Libs and Cons and Ignore
Hell-bent for flame-war
Wishin' reasoned talk was on its way

All the things I'm missing
Sound logic, love and respect
Will never be round here again

Lock the thread! (Ban the troll!)
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Halforums!
Get a mod! (Keep it nice!)
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Keep postin' postin' postin'
Though you won't be winin'
Keep those users postin'
Halforums!
Don't try to understand them
Just flame and rate and curse them
Soon we'll be postin' a goodbye
My heart's calculating
My true thoughts will be sitting
Be sitting at the back of my mind

Lock the thread! (Ban the troll!)
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Yah!
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Mar 30, 2014#18

Krisken

Bravo.

Mar 30, 2014#19

ThatNickGuy

Gilgamesh said:
He'a also an alt I'm sure.

It's me, Austin! It's me, Austin! It was me all along, Austin!

Mar 30, 2014#20

GasBandit

Mar 30, 2014#21

tegid

Hah, he has a thread from 2010 with the exact same title:

https://www.halforums.com/threads/hows-that-hope-and-change-working-out.23173/

Mar 30, 2014#22

PatrThom

GasBandit said:

What you really do is...use a 2008 MacBook Pro?
That sounds more Hipster than Libertarian.
Also, it increases to 100% if that's really a PowerBook G4.
Would certainly explain the frustration, though.

--Patrick

Mar 30, 2014#23

GasBandit

Ladies and Gentlemen - Baraka Obama.

Mar 30, 2014#24

Chad Sexington

Krisken said:
Bravo.

It took me less time than I thought, but I was pretty pleased with myself.

Mar 31, 2014#25

PatrThom

Just saw this bumper sticker on my way home from work yesterday.
"I like my President like I like my coffee: Smooth, Strong, and Black."

TMI, random minivan driver. TMI.

--Patrick

Mar 31, 2014#26

Emrys

GasBandit said:
Ladies and Gentlemen - Baraka Obama.

I'm having nightmares from this and I'm not even asleep.
Thank you, @GasBandit. Thank you from the bottom of my little weaselly heart.

Mar 31, 2014#27

GasBandit

Emrys said:
I'm having nightmares from this and I'm not even asleep.
Thank you, @GasBandit. Thank you from the bottom of my little weaselly heart.

Flawless victory.

Mar 31, 2014#28

Emrys

Until the doomweasels find you.

Apr 1, 2014#29

MisterSteve

Democrat playbook on scandals:

Week 1 - Refuse to answer any questions. Immediately que in lap dog media to follow the Liberal mandate.

Week 2 - Refuse to answer any questions, change the subject. Turn the gain up on the lap dog media.

Week 3 - Announce that everything has been answered, its time to "move forward", and state that no further questions on the subject will be answered.

Week 4 - Call it a "phony scandal" and highlight the fact that it never really happened.

Week 5 - Accuse Republicans of trying to resurrect a phony scandal, and ask what difference at this point does it make anyway? Place a friendly call to the IRS for "assistance"

Week 6 - Accuse anyone asking the same questions that have never been answered about the phony scandal that doesn't matter any way, of being racist... And pick the phone up to the NSA for closing arguments...

Week 7- Find a Republican scandal (with the help of the media) like Christie's "Bridgegate" and hammer it until the Republican apologizes and/or is ruined to divert the low infos from what is really going on.

Continue lying for the rest of the term or until impeached.

Apr 1, 2014#30

Dave

I think if you changed this to Republican playbook it would be more accurate.

Apr 1, 2014#31

Chad Sexington

Partisans gonna partisan.

Apr 1, 2014#32

Krisken

I'm convinced the country gets the shitty politicians it deserves. Both Democrat and Republican. Pointing fingers at either side is just silly.

Apr 1, 2014#33

GasBandit

LIH-BERR-TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-RIANISM!

Apr 1, 2014#34

Tinwhistler

MisterSteve said:
Democrat playbook on scandals:

Week 1 - Refuse to answer any questions. Immediately que in lap dog media to follow the Liberal mandate.

Week 2 - Refuse to answer any questions, change the subject. Turn the gain up on the lap dog media.

Week 3 - Announce that everything has been answered, its time to "move forward", and state that no further questions on the subject will be answered.

Week 4 - Call it a "phony scandal" and highlight the fact that it never really happened.

Week 5 - Accuse Republicans of trying to resurrect a phony scandal, and ask what difference at this point does it make anyway? Place a friendly call to the IRS for "assistance"

Week 6 - Accuse anyone asking the same questions that have never been answered about the phony scandal that doesn't matter any way, of being racist... And pick the phone up to the NSA for closing arguments...

Week 7- Find a Republican scandal (with the help of the media) like Christie's "Bridgegate" and hammer it until the Republican apologizes and/or is ruined to divert the low infos from what is really going on.

Continue lying for the rest of the term or until impeached.

I have seen the light.

Where can I sign up to be a republican?

Apr 1, 2014#35

Charlie Don't Surf

if I wanted republican email forwards I'd give my dad my email address

Apr 1, 2014#36

Dave

Charlie Don't Surf said:
if I wanted republican email forwards I'd give my dad my email address

I get both RNC & DNC emails. And it's interesting to see what each send out. Republicans send out almost exclusively, "OBAMA SUUUUX!" but are all from RNC. Democrats have forwarded my email to MoveOn.org and a few other things. I get FAR more Democratic emails than I do Republican, which I suppose shouldn't be that much of a surprise. But the number of emails from the Dems are so many and they all ask for money.

Apr 1, 2014#37

GasBandit

I've got one uncle who forwards every Anti-obama tidbit he comes across. Ironically, I'm usually the one who has to go to bat "defending obama" by pointing out the untruths and fallacies.

Apr 1, 2014#38

Dave

The democratic emails I get are all about signing petitions and giving money. The republican ones are all bullshit talking points against Obama. It's really quite an interesting departure.

Apr 1, 2014#39

GasBandit

Dave said:
The democratic emails I get are all about signing petitions and giving money. The republican ones are all bullshit talking points against Obama. It's really quite an interesting departure.

What a difference a decade makes, eh?

Apr 1, 2014#40

Dave

GasBandit said:
What a difference a decade makes, eh?

Meet the new boss...

Apr 1, 2014#41

DarkAudit

What hope? What change? Coal and chemical companies own this state, and it's only getting worse.

Apr 2, 2014#42

Bubble181

GasBandit said:
I've got one uncle who forwards every Anti-obama tidbit he comes across. Ironically, I'm usually the one who has to go to bat "defending obama" by pointing out the untruths and fallacies.

I have the same thing in Belgian politics. I'm certainly not a right wing nut, but I find myself constantly having to "defend" our right wing nationalist party because they get slandered with so many untruths and misdirections it gets irksome. It's OK not to like them, claiming their program is "the same" as that of 1930's Hitler isn't very nice - especially when your own party's program actually has more points in common with that of Stalin than theirs with that of Hitler.

Apr 2, 2014#43

Bowielee

Dave said:
The democratic emails I get are all about signing petitions and giving money. The republican ones are all bullshit talking points against Obama. It's really quite an interesting departure.

Ugh, the amount of spam I get from the "Obama camp" is just so annoying. Even after asking to be removed from their mailing list, they still send me "super duper important" e-mails.

Apr 2, 2014#44

Chad Sexington

GasBandit said:
I've got one uncle who forwards every Anti-obama tidbit he comes across. Ironically, I'm usually the one who has to go to bat "defending obama" by pointing out the untruths and fallacies.

Bubble181 said:
I have the same thing in Belgian politics. I'm certainly not a right wing nut, but I find myself constantly having to "defend" our right wing nationalist party because they get slandered with so many untruths and misdirections it gets irksome. It's OK not to like them, claiming their program is "the same" as that of 1930's Hitler isn't very nice - especially when your own party's program actually has more points in common with that of Stalin than theirs with that of Hitler.

Generally in such a situation, I answer, "I'm a conservative/liberal/libertarian/socialist/regressive/despot/anarchist, not a partisan." Having xyz values doesn't mean you don't respect/appreciate the truth and understand the values/actions of those you disagree with, especially since 'your' guy will do things you don't like, and the 'other' guy will do things you like.

Apr 2, 2014#45

Bubble181

Chad Sexington said:
Generally in such a situation, I answer, "I'm a conservative/liberal/libertarian/socialist/regressive/despot/anarchist, not a partisan." Having xyz values doesn't mean you don't respect/appreciate the truth and understand the values/actions of those you disagree with, especially since 'your' guy will do things you don't like, and the 'other' guy will do things you like.

Absolutely; I live by Voltaire's words...But in modern day Internet politics/discussions, that's impossible. You're with us or with them. You're a good guy or a Slave to Evil.

...In my case, I'm a slave to evil - the weasels were just too cute

Apr 2, 2014#46

GasBandit

Extreme positions are not succeeded by moderate ones, but by contrary extreme positions. - Nietzsche

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments. - also Nietzsche

Take note, uncle Herb.

Apr 2, 2014#47

PatrThom

GasBandit said:
Extreme positions are not succeeded by moderate ones, but by contrary extreme positions. - Nietzsche

--Patrick

Apr 3, 2014#48

Chad Sexington

Bubble181 said:
Absolutely; I live by Voltaire's words...But in modern day Internet politics/discussions, that's impossible. You're with us or with them. You're a good guy or a Slave to Evil.

...In my case, I'm a slave to evil - the weasels were just too cute

You are probably referring to a quotation from Evelyn Beatrice Hall, misattributed to Voltaire because it appears in her book, The Friends of Voltaire. However, the point is well-taken, and I agree.

Apr 3, 2014#49

MisterSteve

HAHAHA Nobody is libertarian because public school indoctrination starts early and the concept of laissez faire just won't fly in the modern day. When the concepts and ideologies behind the parties are analyzed in-depth, none of it really seems to hold up in the real world. Liberal democrats suck big business off until they ejaculate money everywhere, then rail against big business Republicans. Conservative republicans expand government every chance they get, then blame democrats for the explosive growth. Both sides are morally bankrupt liars looking to line their pockets at the taxpayer's expense, as usual.

Libertarians are rarely heard from, because they are busy leading happy, contented, self reliant and productive lives far, far away from all the douchebags in DC. The very idea of BECOMING a politician is anathema to the libertarian ideal, which is literally ''fuck off.'' That is the one and only concept that libertarians share: We wish to be left alone and we wish to leave you well enough alone. It's about a half-step up from capitalistic anarchism.

But that just won't work for DC, so they whip the low information voters into a frenzy with hot-button issues like abortion, gay marriage and legalizing cannabis, which is enough to keep their tiny little minds away from the real issues (and there are plenty to choose from). It's so sad, but the whole thing is a popularity contest and nobody of any substance is ever actually up for any meaningful elected position.

Anybody that blindly follows any type of party line is an absolute fool, and will soon be parted from his money.[DOUBLEPOST=1396556402,1396556292][/DOUBLEPOST]

Covar said:
Better idea, just show up to the polls and don't vote for one of the big two candidates. All you're doing there is saying you're ok with the politician you voted for. People who vote "for the lesser of two evils" are only supporting the existing system. Vote for a third party or leave the ballot blank. Show that you care, but are not satisified.

An optimist, eh?

Apr 3, 2014#50

sixpackshaker

Wow, thanks for those words of cut and paste wisdom.

Apr 3, 2014#51

Charlie Don't Surf

A lot of people have gotten filthy fucking rich toeing the party line

Apr 3, 2014#52

Emrys

Bubble181 said:
Absolutely; I live by Voltaire's words...But in modern day Internet politics/discussions, that's impossible. You're with us or with them. You're a good guy or a Slave to Evil.

...In my case, I'm a slave to evil - the weasels were just too cute

And this is why I love you. :heart:

Apr 3, 2014#53

Mathias

MisterSteve said:
HAHAHA Nobody is libertarian because public school indoctrination starts early and the concept of laissez faire just won't fly in the modern day. When the concepts and ideologies behind the parties are analyzed in-depth, none of it really seems to hold up in the real world. Liberal democrats suck big business off until they ejaculate money everywhere, then rail against big business Republicans. Conservative republicans expand government every chance they get, then blame democrats for the explosive growth. Both sides are morally bankrupt liars looking to line their pockets at the taxpayer's expense, as usual.

Libertarians are rarely heard from, because they are busy leading happy, contented, self reliant and productive lives far, far away from all the douchebags in DC. The very idea of BECOMING a politician is anathema to the libertarian ideal, which is literally ''fuck off.'' That is the one and only concept that libertarians share: We wish to be left alone and we wish to leave you well enough alone. It's about a half-step up from capitalistic anarchism.

But that just won't work for DC, so they whip the low information voters into a frenzy with hot-button issues like abortion, gay marriage and legalizing cannabis, which is enough to keep their tiny little minds away from the real issues (and there are plenty to choose from). It's so sad, but the whole thing is a popularity contest and nobody of any substance is ever actually up for any meaningful elected position.

Anybody that blindly follows any type of party line is an absolute fool, and will soon be parted from his money.[DOUBLEPOST=1396556402,1396556292][/DOUBLEPOST]

An optimist, eh?

I tink you are mischtaken...

Apr 3, 2014#54

PatrThom

That is a very big picture.

--Patrick

Apr 3, 2014#55

ThatNickGuy

I kinda want to put this guy and Naiwen in a room together and just see what happens.

Apr 4, 2014#56

DarkAudit

ThatNickGuy said:
I kinda want to put this guy and Naiwen in a room together and just see what happens.

Dibs on the popcorn concession. :popcorn:

Apr 4, 2014#57

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
I kinda want to put this guy and Naiwen in a room together and just see what happens.

... this room?

Apr 4, 2014#58

Chad Sexington

ThatNickGuy said:
I kinda want to put this guy and Naiwen in a room together and just see what happens.

I feel like it would just be two people mean-spiritedly laughing at each other, because their convictions are so obviously correct and they're unable to actually communicate in a way that acknowledges disagreements.

GasBandit said:
... this room?

Am I missing something?

Apr 4, 2014#59

GasBandit

Chad Sexington said:
Am I missing something?

It would seem so. 80% of men recognize that room, and especially that couch.

Incidentally, here's a fun fact I learned this week.. did you know that if you use Chrome, and you right click an image and then tap "S", it will open a reverse-image-search in a new tab, telling you what it thinks the picture is? I though that was pretty cool.

Apr 4, 2014#60

Dave

It's the infamous "casting couch" used in a lot of pornos.

Apr 4, 2014#61

Emrys

He's young. There's still hope for him.

:hide:

Apr 4, 2014#62

ThatNickGuy

Emrys said:
He's young. There's still hope for him.

You should get a Medal of Humour for using the couch smiley along with this post.

Apr 4, 2014#63

Covar

GasBandit said:
Incidentally, here's a fun fact I learned this week.. did you know that if you use Chrome, and you right click an image and then tap "S", it will open a reverse-image-search in a new tab, telling you what it thinks the picture is? I though that was pretty cool.

No lie, you just made this entire thread worth its weight in bitcoin.

Apr 4, 2014#64

Chad Sexington

GasBandit said:
It would seem so. 80% of men recognize that room, and especially that couch.

Incidentally, here's a fun fact I learned this week.. did you know that if you use Chrome, and you right click an image and then tap "S", it will open a reverse-image-search in a new tab, telling you what it thinks the picture is? I though that was pretty cool.

I probably should not have done that with that photo at work.

But OH WELL

It is a good trick.

Anyway, I don't watch a lot of porn, so... But hey.

Now I know!

Apr 7, 2014#65

Bowielee

We're still living in a much better country than we were under the Bush regime.

Apr 7, 2014#66

Necronic

Based on timing I have to suspect this is one of two people's alts.

Apr 7, 2014#67

GasBandit

Yyyyeah, I'm not rising to that bait, Bowie. Heh

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