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Sep 21, 2009#1

Shegokigo

You Belong with Me - Taylor Swift

Why? Just when I start getting myself into a state of mind where I think I can live with my current GF and be happy, this bullshit song hits the radio at work (which I have no control over the station) and I remember everything I hate about my relationship/future with her.

I also hate ANY song with reference to cheating (Lips of an Angel for example), which is ironic because I think of leaving/cheating on my GF on an almost daily basis.

This isn't supposed to be a "baww" thread, I'd rather it be about songs you hate and why/what they mean to you to make you hate them.

Sep 21, 2009#2

Silver Jelly

I love and hate this song at the same time:
Like EVERY song that reminds me I've never had anything remotely similar to a girlfriend...

I mean, I have troble as it is having FRIENDS... And these songs remind me of both things.

Sep 21, 2009#3

Covar

I'm Gonna Be (500 miles).

Try to hear that song and not get it stuck in your head.

Sep 21, 2009#4

Vytamindi

Paparazzi by Lady Gaga. It's just so damn catchy!!!

Also that Down song with the auto tune. It's on the radio EVERYTIME I am in my car.

Sep 21, 2009#5

Adammon

I hate that song too Shego. The message behind it is so adolescent that I have a hard time not dying my hair black and cutting myself while listening to it.

Sep 21, 2009#6

Shegokigo

How do you get "emo" from that song?

Sep 21, 2009#7

CynicismKills

The Used song Poetic Tragedy is one of my favorites, but I hate hearing it at the same time due to memories associated with it.

As for songs I absolutely cannot stand, that's a long list. Anything from Creed/Calling/Theory of A Deadman/Nickelback/Kid Rock/etc for sounding exactly the same as everything they ever do/have done and generally being about getting women/money/being a douchenozzle.

Sep 21, 2009#8

Lally

Shegokigo said:
I also hate ANY song with reference to cheating (Lips of an Angel for example), which is ironic because I think of leaving/cheating on my GF on an almost daily basis.

I also hate songs about cheating! I also pretty much hate Taylor Swift. :whistling:

Not that there's anything wrong with her, I just can't stand her songs. Especially, ESPECIALLY "Love Story." When she says she's "the Scarlet Letter" I just want to slap her. Please don't reference literature if you don't know wtf you're talking about!

I get a lot of rage about music, so in the interest of not rambling I won't give anymore examples.

Sep 21, 2009#9

Shegokigo

CynicismKills said:
The Used song Poetic Tragedy is one of my favorites, but I hate hearing it at the same time due to memories associated with it.

As for songs I absolutely cannot stand, that's a long list. Anything from Creed/Calling/Theory of A Deadman/Nickelback/Kid Rock/etc for sounding exactly the same as everything they ever do/have done and generally being about getting women/money/being a douchenozzle.

No clue how you find Kid Rock in that same song genre....

Sep 21, 2009#10

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
How do you get "emo" from that song?

I equate teenage angst and emo. She's whining because some dude should be with her, and not another girl who is popular/pretty/dresses nice. As if the guy gets no choice in the matter whatsoever.

Maybe he doesn't want to be with her because she's a whiny bitch?

Sep 21, 2009#11

Shegokigo

Or because he has no idea how she feels about him maybe?

Sep 21, 2009#12

HowDroll

Lally;260418][quote=Shegokigo said:
I also hate ANY song with reference to cheating (Lips of an Angel for example), which is ironic because I think of leaving/cheating on my GF on an almost daily basis.

I also hate songs about cheating! I also pretty much hate Taylor Swift. :whistling:

Sep 21, 2009#13

Chazwozel

Adammon;260422][quote=Shegokigo said:
How do you get "emo" from that song?

I equate teenage angst and emo. She's whining because some dude should be with her, and not another girl who is popular/pretty/dresses nice. As if the guy gets no choice in the matter whatsoever.

Maybe he doesn't want to be with her because she's a whiny bitch?[/QUOTE]

High School dude's a smart dude. I'm pretty sure he knows the cute chick next door wants him. He's just biding his time, getting BJ's from the cheer captain before moving onto getting BJ's from the cheer captain's identical, emo twin next door.

Taylor Swift forgot the lyrics where he dumps both bitches after a foursome during his first frat party at college.

Sep 21, 2009#14

Shegokigo

Then you wonder where the nerd hate comes from Chaz.

:rolleyes:

Sep 21, 2009#15

Adammon

Chazwozel;260438][quote=Adammon;260422][quote=Shegokigo said:
How do you get "emo" from that song?

Shegokigo said:
Or because he has no idea how she feels about him maybe?

So she's the female version of the 'nice guy'....who invariably is a complete twat.

Sep 21, 2009#16

Lally

HowDroll;260433][quote=Lally;260418][quote=Shegokigo said:
I also hate ANY song with reference to cheating (Lips of an Angel for example), which is ironic because I think of leaving/cheating on my GF on an almost daily basis.

I also hate songs about cheating! I also pretty much hate Taylor Swift. :whistling:

Not that there's anything wrong with her, I just can't stand her songs. Especially, ESPECIALLY "Love Story." When she says she's "the Scarlet Letter" I just want to slap her. Please don't reference literature if you don't know wtf you're talking about!

I get a lot of rage about music, so in the interest of not rambling I won't give anymore examples.[/QUOTE]

YES!!! I flew into an English lit nerd rage the first time I heard that song as well. She also goes on about Romeo and Juliet, then says "you'll be the prince and I'll be the princess." I'd like to think that she isn't so ignorant as to think that R&J were some sort of royalty, but honestly, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. That's almost as bad as the Mastercard commercial where some woman says "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo? (Flashlight, 10 dollars)." Note to anyone who is borderline illiterate: Wherefore DOES NOT MEAN "where." It means "why."

People are fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much when anyone references Romeo and Juliet in a romantic "we're just like them" or "we could be like them" way I want to go "THEY WERE STUPID HORNY KIDS AND THEY DIED. SO GO DIE." I also hate that "I talked to your dad and it's okay" (paraphrase) is in the last chorus. SO NOT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CHAMP.

And "you'll be the prince and I'll be the princess" is a line a five year old could write (I hate when people talk about what a clever songwriter she is). It never occurred to me that she could be talking about Romeo and Juliet but now my brain hurts, because she totally could be.

Sep 21, 2009#17

The Lovely Boehner

I like the song, it reminds me of simpler times.

Sep 21, 2009#18

Adammon

Charlie Dont Surf said:
I like the song, it reminds me of simpler times.

When you were cheer captain giving blowjobs to the star quarterback?

Sep 21, 2009#19

Shegokigo

Sep 21, 2009#20

General Specific

Lally;260452][quote=HowDroll;260433][quote=Lally;260418][quote=Shegokigo said:
I also hate ANY song with reference to cheating (Lips of an Angel for example), which is ironic because I think of leaving/cheating on my GF on an almost daily basis.

I also hate songs about cheating! I also pretty much hate Taylor Swift. :whistling:

Sep 21, 2009#21

Vytamindi

Shegokigo said:
Then you wonder where the nerd hate comes from Chaz.

Sep 21, 2009#22

The Lovely Boehner

Nah, I never made captain

Sep 21, 2009#23

Gusto

I, too, hate songs.

Sep 21, 2009#24

Adammon

Charlie Dont Surf said:
Nah, I never made captain

/hug

That's okay. I never made quarterback.

*unzzzzzzziiiiiiip*

Sep 21, 2009#25

The Lovely Boehner

I think international internet blowjobs are illegal, nafta don't cover that at all I'm pretty sure

Sep 21, 2009#26

CynicismKills

Kid Rock in with those guys is stretching it a bit, sure, but all in all he's still a mediocre songwriter/lyricist and has ham-fisted his way into country (which is a genre in general I can't stand).

Sep 21, 2009#27

Dave

HowDroll said:
Note to anyone who is borderline illiterate: Wherefore DOES NOT MEAN "where." It means "why."

People are fucking stupid.

I...I never knew that.

Sep 21, 2009#28

Adammon

Uncle Cracker. What the hell is up with Smile?

Also, if I hear 21 Guns again by Green Day, I'ma gonna pop a cap in an ass.

Sep 21, 2009#29

Dave

Adammon said:
Also, if I hear 21 Guns again by Green Day, I'ma gonna pop a cap in an ass.

Let's take one of the worst songs from the CD and play it incessantly on the radio! GREAT idea!

Sep 21, 2009#30

Adammon

Dave;260486][quote=Adammon said:
Also, if I hear 21 Guns again by Green Day, I'ma gonna pop a cap in an ass.

Let's take one of the worst songs from the CD and play it incessantly on the radio! GREAT idea![/QUOTE]

I'm not renewing my Sirius subscription simply because of their obsession on Hits 1 with 21 Guns and anything by Taylor Swift. Neither of which approaches "HITS" or "1"

Sep 21, 2009#31

Gusto

Dave;260484][quote=HowDroll said:
Note to anyone who is borderline illiterate: Wherefore DOES NOT MEAN "where." It means "why."

People are fucking stupid.

I...I never knew that.

[/QUOTE]

Yup.

The whole little intro to that scene as Juliet lamenting Romeo's identity as a Montague. And how much it sucked.

R+J, original emo teens.

Sep 21, 2009#32

Adammon

O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?
Deny thy father and refuse thy name;
Or if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love
And I'll no longer be a Capulet.

Sep 21, 2009#33

Silver Jelly

I also hate this song.

As you can see, I generally hate songs that remind me of my personal failures (or even POTENTIAL ones, like this one...)

Sep 21, 2009#34

North_Ranger

Anything by Aqua or Abba. The first because they are so goddamn annoying and the lead vocalist sounds like she inhaled three canisters of helium... and the second because my parents are fans and I had to endure the entire production of band one time too many.

Sep 21, 2009#35

Le Quack

Anything that contains a metal guitar tone. People think its rad. Its not.

Sep 21, 2009#36

Chazwozel

Shegokigo said:
Then you wonder where the nerd hate comes from Chaz.

Cause I make a parody of the 'sweet' guy in a song playing the two girls for nookie?

Sep 21, 2009#37

Adammon

Anything produced by Michael Bay.

oh wait, wrong topic

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Chazwozel;260499][quote=Shegokigo said:
Then you wonder where the nerd hate comes from Chaz.

Cause I make a parody of the 'sweet' guy in a song playing the two girls for nookie?[/QUOTE]

brown chicken brown cow

Sep 21, 2009#38

SeraRelm

Yo guys, I'm glad for you and I'mma let you finish, but Don't Fear the Reaper had the best Romeo and Juliet reference of all time.
*Obligatory Kanye interrupting Taylor reference*

Sep 21, 2009#39

Wasabi Poptart

The Hinder song makes me want to vomit.

I also hate this song:

Someone used to have a signature that read something like "Look at this photograph...every time I do I want to punch Chad Kroeger in the face". That made me laugh! :rofl:

Sep 21, 2009#40

Adammon

WHYYY, why did you have to post the video

Now I have to fight the urge to click play even though every time I do I want to punch Chad Kroeger in the face

Sep 21, 2009#41

Chazwozel

I vote Nickelback as pretty much what exemplifies what's wrong with modern rawk. Worst band ever!

Sep 21, 2009#42

Vytamindi

Sep 21, 2009#43

fade

Yes. I don't like the newer mainstream stuff. I know I'm due to get all crotchety here soon, but on pure merit, I'm not a fan. I call it "drone rock", because that's what it sounds like to me. It seems like one chord (three was bad enough) with very flat melody, and an overdriven guitar that's just totally fuzzy and non-distinct. And not in a good way like Hendrix. More like the homeless guy who mumbles to himself. Are there even notes in there? The voice is the same it's-like-one-note-with-no-melody-changes-whatsoever-blah-blah....

Sep 21, 2009#44

CynicismKills

Vytamindi said:

I love this comic, hahahaha

Sep 21, 2009#45

Cajungal

Anything Avril Lavigne (especially Boyfriend and Skater Boy).

Anything Aaron Neville

Sep 21, 2009#46

Adammon

Cajungal said:
Anything Avril Lavigne (especially Boyfriend and Skater Boy).

Anything Aaron Neville

Step Right Up.

Come on In.

If you'd LLIIIKE TO TAAAAKE THE GRAAAND TOOOUR

Hahah, oi.

Imagine her singing that though :/

Sep 21, 2009#47

V.Bond

Whatever song is popular by 3OH!3 at the moment.

Sep 21, 2009#48

The Lovely Boehner

I believe the songs are "Girlfriend" and "sk8er boi".

Sep 21, 2009#49

Cajungal

Oops, you're right. Shows how closely I follow her stuff.

Sep 21, 2009#50

Shegokigo

and how closely Charlie does.... :bush:

Oh, and Kid Rock doesn't do country! I have no idea what you're talking about, he's a metal head through and through! :whistling:

Sep 21, 2009#51

CynicismKills

Adammon;260565][quote=Cajungal said:
Anything Avril Lavigne (especially Boyfriend and Skater Boy).

Anything Aaron Neville

Sep 21, 2009#52

Adammon

Vagabond said:
Whatever song is popular by 3OH!3 at the moment.

I like that whistle song because it's just so freaking rnadom. I wouldn't want to listen to it non-stop, but it's certainly different.

And how can you go wrong with lyrics like "Do the Helen Keller and talk with your hips".

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CynicismKills;260572][quote=Adammon;260565][quote=Cajungal said:
Anything Avril Lavigne (especially Boyfriend and Skater Boy).

Anything Aaron Neville

Step Right Up.

Come on In.

If you'd LLIIIKE TO TAAAAKE THE GRAAAND TOOOUR

Hahah, oi.

Imagine her singing that though :/[/QUOTE]

Look up Avril's cover of Chop Suey! and make sure there's no sharp objects or anything else you could end your life with nearby.[/QUOTE]

Looked it up on Youtube.

I.....I.....I'm sorry but someone needs to shutdown Youtube so no one ever hears that again.

Sep 21, 2009#53

Dusty668

Pretty much anything by Journey due to a series of relationships, and KISS due to a specific relationship.

Said relationships ended as well as an airship ride to New Jersey.

Sep 21, 2009#54

AshburnerX

Dusty668 said:
Pretty much anything by Journey and KISS due to a specific now awkward friendship.

Altered to fit my circumstances. Not that she understands why...

Sep 21, 2009#55

ThatGrinningIdiot!

I can appreciate many, many aspects of music, and I understand there are songs that I will like that others do not and vice versa. No matter how much I try though, I can't help but dislike System of a Down, modern rap and hip-hop, pop, and country music.

Sep 21, 2009#56

JONJONAUG

Dave;260484][quote=HowDroll said:
Note to anyone who is borderline illiterate: Wherefore DOES NOT MEAN "where." It means "why."

People are fucking stupid.

I...I never knew that.

[/QUOTE]

I thought this was a common enough gripe for English professors that no one could escape knowing this anymore.

Then again, you are OLD.

Sep 21, 2009#57

Cajungal

I don't like that Evanescence song "My Immortal" either. God... so obnoxious.

Sep 21, 2009#58

HCGLNS

Can't Get You Out of My Head - Kylie Minogue

Very annoying song.

Sep 21, 2009#59

wana10

kid rock annoys me because i think i'm about to get something else and then he butts in. "warren zevon, fuck yeah! ...oh it's kid rock, dammit" "bad company, awesome! ...oh it's kid rock, dammit"

Sep 21, 2009#60

Rob King

JONJONAUG;260634][quote=Dave;260484][quote=HowDroll said:
Note to anyone who is borderline illiterate: Wherefore DOES NOT MEAN "where." It means "why."

People are fucking stupid.

I...I never knew that.

[/QUOTE]

I thought this was a common enough gripe for English professors that no one could escape knowing this anymore.

Then again, you are OLD.[/QUOTE]

Hell, then he should know it firsthand!

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CynicismKills said:
Look up Avril's cover of Chop Suey! and make sure there's no sharp objects or anything else you could end your life with nearby.

Why ... why would you hurt me like that?

I didn't mind Avril Lavigne before. Now I can't help but see her as pathetic.

Sep 21, 2009#61

I

Icarus

Heh, there's too many songs I hate.

There's this song called Underground from Belgian band Das Pop which I really hate. I wish I could show you a Youtube link but the Belgian copyright organisation SABAM (the M stands for Mafia I'm sure) took loads of Belgian clips down a few weeks ago.

EDIT: oh wait, I found the clip on their MySpace:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=36512171

Anyway, the song is terrible. It's been playing far too much on the radio and I had no idea it was Belgian and I was wondering why they'd play such a crap song over and over again. The whole pacing of the song is off, the singer can't sing, the lyrics are pathetic, etc. It's a song some amateurs might write in their basement but that's about it. But really, the lyrics especially are AWFUL. They tried to rhyme everything with everything some of their lines are really grasping at straws:

I’ve seen it all, there’s nothing left to say
It’s not about the job you quit
The boy you’re with, the girl you live with
The time spent with a half-wit
It’s not about the things you’ve said
Or the things you told me in my bed

I mean, SERIOUSLY? Makes me wonder if the band even finished high school and if they did, they certainly didn't pass their English class.

Sep 22, 2009#62

Silver Jelly

Oh, I mostly hate music in spanish too. Some groups because they make me think of people, but in general it's just because the lyrics are terribly dumb and I can't avoid understanding them. (With songs in english, I can "shut down" that little translator guy that lounges on my brain and just listen to the music)

Sep 22, 2009#63

@Li3n

Lally said:
Pretty much when anyone references Romeo and Juliet in a romantic "we're just like them" or "we could be like them" way I want to go "THEY WERE STUPID HORNY KIDS AND THEY DIED. SO GO DIE." I also hate that "I talked to your dad and it's okay" (paraphrase) is in the last chorus. SO NOT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CHAMP.

Damn you for making me defend half thought out lyrics, but taking it all so literal just so you can complain about it is hardly better...

Sep 22, 2009#64

Gared

Generally I just hate remakes of songs by people who should never have remade those particular songs. Take Dolly Parton doing Stairway to Heaven, for example. Also, Ace of Base.

Sep 22, 2009#65

twitchmoss

I hate this song

This version is awesome though

Sep 22, 2009#66

Iaculus

Cajungal said:
I don't like that Evanescence song "My Immortal" either. God... so obnoxious.

And not just because it spawned one of the most apocalyptically bad fanfics in recorded history, either. Don't ask. Just don't.

For me, it's 'Make Me Smile' by Cockney Rebel. I have no idea whether it was intentional or not, but the way it's sung makes me twitch.

Sep 22, 2009#67

Vytamindi

God... I thought I was the only one who hated Aaron Neville...

And every time I hear ANY LSU song, I cringe. Their band is awesome, though.

Sep 22, 2009#68

JCM

I agree pretty much with Chaz on Nickelback and Modern rock.
I blame Nirvana fior making a bunch of unwashed kids with terriblevocal skills and ho-hum guitar chords think that they are rockers.

Gared said:
Generally I just hate remakes of songs by people who should never have remade those particular songs. Take Dolly Parton doing Stairway to Heaven, for example. Also, Ace of Base.

Sometimes the remakes are great, ala Whitney's version of "I will always love you", or Guns and Roses' "Knockin of Heaven's Door"

Sep 22, 2009#69

Vytamindi

OH god I change the channel every time Nirvana is played...

And Linkin Park.
And Black Eyed Peas.
And Nickleback.

But I keep Lady Gaga on.. It's like a spell... but what the hell is a disco stick?

Sep 22, 2009#70

fade

Ugg. Putting a genre-changing band in with Nickelback and Linkin Park? Cobain is rolling over in his grave.

Sep 22, 2009#71

JCM

fade said:
Ugg. Putting a genre-changing band in with Nickelback and Linkin Park? Cobain is rolling over in his grave.

Sep 22, 2009#72

Vytamindi

I respect the fact that Cobain changed the music of today by being such a catalyst, but I don't like Nirvana. Those were not a grouping of what my ear hears as similar artists, just artists whose music is so similarfrom one of their singles to the next, I still change, even if it's a new single. It all sounds the same!

Also, Aaron Neville (as previously stated), Dixie Chicks (auto tune much?), and Madonna are what also gets switched on my car radio.

Sep 22, 2009#73

Cajungal

Vytamindi said:
God... I thought I was the only one who hated Aaron Neville...

And every time I hear ANY LSU song, I cringe. Their band is awesome, though.

Agreed. Wonderfully talented band. Obnoxious songs.

Sep 22, 2009#74

Chazwozel

JCM;260787][quote=fade said:
Ugg. Putting a genre-changing band in with Nickelback and Linkin Park? Cobain is rolling over in his grave.

Thats why he was put in.

He changed the genre from well-made songs to shite played by guys in pyjamas and lumberjack shirts. Heck, if Cobain was still alive, he'd sound like Nickelback, judging by his unreleased stuff that was going to be in his next album.[/QUOTE]

Cobain shot himself in a drug induced stupor because he realized he had become the tool that he told himself he'd never become.

Sep 22, 2009#75

Philosopher B.

For multiple reasons. And this piece of fucking ass-turdling 'cause it represents all that is wrong with the world

Sep 22, 2009#76

Norris

Philosopher B. said:
And this piece of fucking ass-turdling 'cause it represents all that is wrong with the world

I like the guy in the pink shirt until he starts rapping...because every bad club song needs a random guy faux-metal screaming.

I also like how they don't censor the sung lyrics, but censor the written lyrics superimposed behind them.

Warren Ellis felt that the song "It’s a near-perfect snapshot of everything that’s shit about this point in the culture" and I am hard pressed to disagree.

EDIT: Also, the pig suited guy. That shit makes it a party.

Personally, almost any time a modern artist tries to cover a classic rock song deserves unending hate. Like...Britney Spears covering "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" or Hillary Duff covering "My Generation".

Sep 22, 2009#77

Fun Size

This. This bullshit right here. A long, long time ago, when I was a sub-slinger for the mighty Subway, the station they tuned the radio to played this fucking song three to five times in a single shift, every shift. It ate into my brain, and just hearing the first notes pisses me off.

Also, fuck you all for making me look it up.

Sep 22, 2009#78

SpecialKO

CynicismKills said:
Look up Avril's cover of Chop Suey! and make sure there's no sharp objects or anything else you could end your life with nearby.

This made me hate humanity.

Why do you want me to hate humanity? :tear:

Sep 22, 2009#79

SpecialKO

I counter with SYSTEM OF A LEGO:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND1OxDoNL8I[/ame]

Sep 22, 2009#80

drifter

Philosopher B. said:
For multiple reasons. And this piece of fucking ass-turdling 'cause it represents all that is wrong with the world

Wait, is that song supposed to be serious business? It seems like it's done purposely to make fun of tired cliches. Or am I giving these guys too much credit?

Sep 22, 2009#81

Norris

drifter said:
Wait, is that song supposed to be serious business? It seems like it's done purposely to make fun of tired cliches. Or am I giving these guys too much credit?

After looking them up on wikipedia....I have to say you're giving them too much credit.

Sep 22, 2009#82

drifter

Dorko said:
After looking them up on wikipedia....I have to say you're giving them too much credit.

Well! Well... all of a sudden Insane Clown Posse doesn't seem so bad.

The fact that I just wrote that sentence makes me hate this band so much.

Sep 22, 2009#83

LordRendar

CynicismKills said:
Look up Avril's cover of Chop Suey! and make sure there's no sharp objects or anything else you could end your life with nearby.

That's just wrong.
Thankfully I Never listen to Radio,or watch TV.I buy all my Music during concerts from the Artists Shop,so I generally only listen to stuff that I enjoy.

What I really hate though are Christmas Jingles. Its freaking September! Stop playing Christmas Music!!!

Sep 22, 2009#84

Krisken

So initially I didn't think I had anything to add concerning songs I really hate, but then Werewolves of London came on. I love this song, and it made me think of that god-awful song where the guy takes the music of this song and Sweet Home Alabama and shits over them both.

Kid Rock- [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjvpGt4r44[/ame]

Die in a fire, Kid Rock. You fucking suck.

Sep 22, 2009#85

Chazwozel

Philosopher B. said:

This song is pretty fun actually.

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Krisken said:
So initially I didn't think I had anything to add concerning songs I really hate, but then Werewolves of London came on. I love this song, and it made me think of that god-awful song where the guy takes the music of this song and Sweet Home Alabama and shits over them both.

Kid Rock-

Die in a fire, Kid Rock. You fucking suck.

Newsflash, Sweet Home Alabama isn't that great a song to begin with. I like this song, it reminds me of how simple the world was without the internet.

Sep 22, 2009#86

Krisken

Chazwozel said:
Newsflash, Sweet Home Alabama isn't that great a song to begin with.

I was more irritated about his shitting on Warren Zevon's song.

Sep 22, 2009#87

wana10

Krisken;261209][quote=Chazwozel said:
Newsflash, Sweet Home Alabama isn't that great a song to begin with.

I was more irritated about his shitting on Warren Zevon's song.[/QUOTE]

as i said on the last page, we are in agreement, my pirate lupus friend

Sep 22, 2009#88

Steve

Shegokigo, He died for your sins. The least you can do is enjoy his music.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZR1YPRim_Y&feature=fvw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZR1YPRim_Y&feature=fvw[/ame]

Sep 22, 2009#89

Krisken

wana10;261215][quote=Krisken;261209][quote=Chazwozel said:
Newsflash, Sweet Home Alabama isn't that great a song to begin with.

I was more irritated about his shitting on Warren Zevon's song.[/quote]

as i said on the last page, we are in agreement, my pirate lupus friend[/QUOTE]
Heh, Yeah, I saw that after I had already posted it. Good to know I'm not the only one wana.

Sep 22, 2009#90

Cat

LordRendar said:
That's just wrong.
Thankfully I Never listen to Radio,or watch TV.I buy all my Music during concerts from the Artists Shop,so I generally only listen to stuff that I enjoy.

What I really hate though are Christmas Jingles. Its freaking September! Stop playing Christmas Music!!!

Speaking of Christmas music

:tard:

Sep 23, 2009#91

Vytamindi

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Sep 23, 2009#92

Shegokigo

I listened to about 2mins of that song and immediately got:

Sep 23, 2009#93

quandofloo

Krisken said:
So initially I didn't think I had anything to add concerning songs I really hate, but then Werewolves of London came on. I love this song, and it made me think of that god-awful song where the guy takes the music of this song and Sweet Home Alabama and shits over them both.

Kid Rock-

Die in a fire, Kid Rock. You fucking suck.

At the start of the song he says it was 1989 but they are sitting on a '92 Camaro.

What? :aaahhh:

Sep 23, 2009#94

rvdleun

*shrugs* Time travel?

Sep 23, 2009#95

Silver Jelly

rvdleun said:
*shrugs* Time travel?

If you have to do it, why not do it with style?

Sep 23, 2009#96

Vytamindi

I GOT MY HANDS UP THEY'RE PLAYING MY SONG AND THE BUTTERFLIES FLY AWAAAAAY

Sep 24, 2009#97

fade

Shegokigo said:
I listened to about 2mins of that song and immediately got:

Aw, man, that was the first time I've actually "LOL'd" in a long time.

Sep 24, 2009#98

Lally

@Li3n;260742][quote=Lally said:
Pretty much when anyone references Romeo and Juliet in a romantic "we're just like them" or "we could be like them" way I want to go "THEY WERE STUPID HORNY KIDS AND THEY DIED. SO GO DIE." I also hate that "I talked to your dad and it's okay" (paraphrase) is in the last chorus. SO NOT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CHAMP.

Sep 24, 2009#99

CynicismKills

Lally;262765][quote=@Li3n;260742][quote=Lally said:
Pretty much when anyone references Romeo and Juliet in a romantic "we're just like them" or "we could be like them" way I want to go "THEY WERE STUPID HORNY KIDS AND THEY DIED. SO GO DIE." I also hate that "I talked to your dad and it's okay" (paraphrase) is in the last chorus. SO NOT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CHAMP.

Damn you for making me defend half thought out lyrics, but taking it all so literal just so you can complain about it is hardly better...[/QUOTE]

Oh yes, how dare I listen to and interpret the words. Shame on me.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, jerk. Stop getting your own message from the music and listen to it like you're supposed to.

Sep 24, 2009#100

HowDroll

Chazwozel said:
Newsflash, Sweet Home Alabama isn't that great a song to begin with.

Chaz, if you should ever decide to be a polygamist, please let me know.

Sep 24, 2009#101

Chazwozel

HowDroll;262811][quote=Chazwozel said:
Newsflash, Sweet Home Alabama isn't that great a song to begin with.

Chaz, if you should ever decide to be a polygamist, please let me know.[/QUOTE]

And with that quote, if polygamy is a sin, consider this now my new theme song:

And anyone boohooing about Sweet Home Crapabama, listen to a proper replacement:

WARRANT OWNS YOUR SOOOUUUUULLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sep 25, 2009#102

CynicismKills

Working in a bar for 3+ years gives you a whole new perspective on "classics" like Sweet Home Alabama.

New perspective as in every time someone played it I might "accidentally" skip it with the jukebox remote.

Sep 25, 2009#103

Krisken

Chazwozel said:
And anyone boohooing about Sweet Home Crapabama....

Can you point out this person? You keep bringing it up, but I can't find anyone defending the song.

Sep 25, 2009#104

Silver Jelly

Krisken;262917][quote=Chazwozel said:
And anyone boohooing about Sweet Home Crapabama....

Can you point out this person? You keep bringing it up, but I can't find anyone defending the song.[/QUOTE]

Wich isn't that surprising.

Sep 25, 2009#105

@Li3n

CynicismKills;262766][quote=Lally;262765][quote=@Li3n;260742][quote=Lally said:
Pretty much when anyone references Romeo and Juliet in a romantic "we're just like them" or "we could be like them" way I want to go "THEY WERE STUPID HORNY KIDS AND THEY DIED. SO GO DIE." I also hate that "I talked to your dad and it's okay" (paraphrase) is in the last chorus. SO NOT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CHAMP.

Damn you for making me defend half thought out lyrics, but taking it all so literal just so you can complain about it is hardly better...[/quote]

Oh yes, how dare I listen to and interpret the words. Shame on me.[/quote]

Yeah, jerk. Stop getting your own message from the music and listen to it like you're supposed to.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, obviously taking the most negative and rather flawed (who exactly ever killed themselves because they where horny?) interpretation you can think of is in no way dishonest...

Sep 25, 2009#106

CynicismKills

@Li3n;262939][quote=CynicismKills;262766][quote=Lally;262765][quote=@Li3n;260742][quote=Lally said:
Pretty much when anyone references Romeo and Juliet in a romantic "we're just like them" or "we could be like them" way I want to go "THEY WERE STUPID HORNY KIDS AND THEY DIED. SO GO DIE." I also hate that "I talked to your dad and it's okay" (paraphrase) is in the last chorus. SO NOT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CHAMP.

Sep 25, 2009#107

Lally

@Li3n said:
Yeah, obviously taking the most negative and rather flawed (who exactly ever killed themselves because they where horny?) interpretation you can think of is in no way dishonest...

I was confused when I thought you told me I was analyzing Taylor Swift's lyrics too much. But you were calling me out on interpreting SHAKESPEARE? Jesus Christ! What are we allowed to process and explicate? Nothing?

First of all, the "horny" comment was about how they weren't really in love, not why they killed themselves. It was a shot at all the people who try and point out how much they love each other by using a pair of stupid kids that knew each other for a matter of days. But, you know, now that you're taking the most negative interpretation of my words, and saying they killed themselves because they were horny, let me ask: does anyone that knows anything about the real world (I realize this is ironic seeing as how we're discussing a fictional piece) think that Romeo and Juliet didn't kill themselves because they were horny? Seriously. I'm not saying they were like "so horny can't take it gotta die" but they were teenagers. Sorry I didn't fill in the blanks for you, but horny teenagers [warning, generalization alert!] 1) "fall in love" quickly, 2) feel like it's "for sure the one" because they're inexperienced and don't know any better, and 3) make rash and unadvised decisions.

Sep 25, 2009#108

Allen, who is Quiet

CynicismKills said:
Yeah...people should...stop interpreting the message...however they like...and conform to...your way of thinking...

bullshit. they should conform to my way of thinking.

Sep 25, 2009#109

Shegokigo

Lally said:
First of all, the "horny" comment was about how they weren't really in love, not why they killed themselves. It was a shot at all the people who try and point out how much they love each other by using a pair of stupid kids that knew each other for a matter of days.

I pretty much stopped reading there.

Sep 25, 2009#110

Shannow

This is the song that doesn't end
Yes it goes on and on my friends...

Sep 25, 2009#111

Chazwozel

Shegokigo;263074][quote=Lally said:
First of all, the "horny" comment was about how they weren't really in love, not why they killed themselves. It was a shot at all the people who try and point out how much they love each other by using a pair of stupid kids that knew each other for a matter of days.

I pretty much stopped reading there.

[/QUOTE]

I think you need to play less video games and more Shakespeare, cause Lally is right on the money. Romeo and Juliet is considered a tragedy drama for a reason. It's not a love story. It's utterly retarded to compare a couple in love to Romeo and Juliet. The whole point of the plot behind Romeo and Juliet is to show the consequences of rashly made choices based on impulses nested in prejudice, tradition, or raw emotion.

Sep 26, 2009#112

Shegokigo

Chazwozel said:
I think you need to play less video games and more Shakespeare, cause Lally is right on the money. Romeo and Juliet is considered a tragedy drama for a reason. It's not a love story. It's utterly retarded to compare a couple in love to Romeo and Juliet. The whole point of the plot behind Romeo and Juliet is to show the consequences of rashly made choices based on impulses nested in prejudice, tradition, or raw emotion.

I read and have read plenty of William. There's a reason it's a "tragedy" there Sherlock.

Sep 26, 2009#113

ElJuski

Wait what? They're teenage lovers, for what it's worth. In fact, one of Shakespeare's most beautiful love sonnets is Romeo speaking to Juliet in the beginning. It's a staple tragedy because of the flaws within the characters--one of these flaws being the passion they had for one another.

I think it's completely rediculous to simply cast away the passion that was written for these two people just because they were young and dumb. Sounds like a bunch of old fogeys to me playing cynical when in essence part of what makes Romeo and Juliet so transcendent is how beautifully Shakespeare played off their love in the middle of all the other insanity going on in the play. Two families finally seeing the absurdity of their war because of their children's love and absurd tragic response.

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And what's really funny is that I find your notion that it's completely retarded, Chaz, completely retarded. "Star cross'd lovers", man. Just google Romeo and Juliet and that's how it's described every time.

"If I profane with my unworthiest hand
This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this:
My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand
To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss."

^^ And that is one of the most beautifully written lines Shakespeare's ever written.

Sep 26, 2009#114

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
Wait what? They're teenage lovers, for what it's worth. In fact, one of Shakespeare's most beautiful love sonnets is Romeo speaking to Juliet in the beginning. It's a staple tragedy because of the flaws within the characters--one of these flaws being the passion they had for one another.

I think it's completely rediculous to simply cast away the passion that was written for these two people just because they were young and dumb. Sounds like a bunch of old fogeys to me playing cynical when in essence part of what makes Romeo and Juliet so transcendent is how beautifully Shakespeare played off their love in the middle of all the other insanity going on in the play. Two families finally seeing the absurdity of their war because of their children's love and absurd tragic response.

And what's really funny is that I find your notion that it's completely retarded, Chaz, completely retarded. "Star cross'd lovers", man. Just google Romeo and Juliet and that's how it's described every time.

"If I profane with my unworthiest hand
This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this:
My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand
To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss."

^^ And that is one of the most beautifully written lines Shakespeare's ever written.

It's a rare occassion where we agree Juski, but damn well put. :uhhuh:- :thumbsup:

Sep 26, 2009#115

ElJuski

I know, right? Sounds like some people need to take a high school english course again.

---------- Post added at 05:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:51 PM ----------

also, for the inevitable response--Shakespeare isn't real life. It's drama. The emphasis is on the passion of emotion, not real-world logic.

Sep 26, 2009#116

@Li3n

Lally said:
I was confused when I thought you told me I was analyzing Taylor Swift's lyrics too much. But you were calling me out on interpreting SHAKESPEARE? Jesus Christ! What are we allowed to process and explicate? Nothing?

No, i was talking about this:

Lally said:
First of all, the "horny" comment was about how they weren't really in love, not why they killed themselves. It was a shot at all the people who try and point out how much they love each other by using a pair of stupid kids that knew each other for a matter of days. But, you know, now that you're taking the most negative interpretation of my words, and saying they killed themselves because they were horny, let me ask: does anyone that knows anything about the real world (I realize this is ironic seeing as how we're discussing a fictional piece) think that Romeo and Juliet didn't kill themselves because they were horny? Seriously. I'm not saying they were like "so horny can't take it gotta die" but they were teenagers. Sorry I didn't fill in the blanks for you, but horny teenagers [warning, generalization alert!] 1) "fall in love" quickly, 2) feel like it's "for sure the one" because they're inexperienced and don't know any better, and 3) make rash and unadvised decisions.

being applied to a Taylor Swift song... :tongue:

But my original point was that she's obviously using a less, let say realistic, interpretation of R&J, and very likely one closer to the original intent of the author (14-15 was marrying age, just ask Juliet), and it's unfair to use that against the song when it's not like she first came out with that interpretation, and it's even the most endorsed one even in academia.

And i always hate it when people find way overcomplicated reasons to hate on something when there are simpler ones available...

.....

As for the play itself... sure, you could go with that but it's not like the adults in it are presented as any better (who's idea was the fake poisoning of Juliet?)... the Bard even lampshaded it at the end...

That and I for one doubt that many teenagers kill themselves over that in the real world, or we'd be having a teenagers shortage (or at least less emos)...

Meh, she should have just used Tristan and Isolde...

Romeo and Juliet is considered a tragedy drama for a reason. It's not a love story. It's utterly retarded to compare a couple in love to Romeo and Juliet.

Dude, name one love story that wasn't a tragedy (or a comedy) from back then...

The whole point of the plot behind Romeo and Juliet is to show the consequences of rashly made choices based on impulses nested in prejudice, tradition, or raw emotion.

Ehh... the words are right, but because of you agreeing with what you quoted the idea is wrong... all the killing etc was stupid, but as the love part was presented as sacrifice that finally fixed the whole feud thing i doubt that it was intended to be seen negatively.

Sep 26, 2009#117

ElJuski

name one story isn't a tragedy or a comedy, period.

Sep 26, 2009#118

@Li3n

The Tempest? (ok, apparently it was labelled a comedy back then, but i did mean it in a more modern way, as in LOL instead of having a happy ending and some humorous bits)

Sep 26, 2009#119

ElJuski

ah, gotcha

Sep 26, 2009#120

Iaculus

ElJuski said:
name one story isn't a tragedy or a comedy, period.

The Left Behind series, though not for want of trying.

Mein Gott, those books are dull.

Sep 26, 2009#121

Allen, who is Quiet

Iaculus said:
The Left Behind series

it's a tragedy that those books were made

Sep 26, 2009#122

@Li3n

ElJuski said:
ah, gotcha

So, it's still the old

you'd think we'd have come further from the time of the ancient greeks...

Sep 26, 2009#123

Iaculus

Allen said:
The Left Behind series

it's a tragedy that those books were made[/QUOTE]

Ah, but is it also a comedy?

(polishes monocle absently).

Sep 26, 2009#124

Allen, who is Quiet

the comedy is people taking them seriously

Sep 26, 2009#125

ElJuski

@Li3n;263284][quote=ElJuski said:
ah, gotcha

So, it's still the old

you'd think we'd have come further from the time of the ancient greeks...[/QUOTE]

When it comes to various methods of dissection, I think not. We've gotten into many different ways of hyper-dissection, which is all well and good. Are either of them more effective? Depends. But it simply boils down to whether the main character ends up better or worse from the beginning.

The ancient greeks, however, could not have forseen the sitcom, which, by and large, maintains a status quo for its affable man-child protagonists. Two and a Half Men really threw them for a loop.

Regardless, I don't even know why we're going into the Tragedy/Comedy distinction, except that I think I fully felated myself on the subject of genre awareness. Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy; in fact, its one of the most poignant tragedies of all time, and one of the most universally renown. Which is probably, by and large, because of the fact its about passionate young lovers.

Sep 27, 2009#126

Lally

I had a big long thing typed up here, but... something ate it, and it's probably for the better, so I'm gonna skip the vitriol, leave this thread, and go back to taking English courses, like I have been, several times a semester for years now. :eek:

rly:

Sep 27, 2009#127

Cat

Didn't Romeo and Juliet open with Romeo moping about the last girl he was with and then completely forgetting about her to chase the next jailbait he laid eyes on? How does anyone take their lust seriously?

Sep 27, 2009#128

Sparhawk

I hate the song, "Santa Baby" in all it's forms. Eartha Kitt, Madonna and whatever bimbo will record it this year. All of them. It grates on my nerves like nothing else can, except maybe microphone feedback, and I can listen to the feedback longer than "Santa Baby."

I hate that I'm forced to hear it at least once a day for over a month, in different stores, every single year. I absolutely HATE that song.

Sep 27, 2009#129

Cat

I also hate that paul mccartney christmas song

Sep 27, 2009#130

ElJuski

Lally said:
I had a big long thing typed up here, but... something ate it, and it's probably for the better, so I'm gonna skip the vitriol, leave this thread, and go back to taking English courses, like I have been, several times a semester for years now. rly:

Sounds like you're doing it wrong. Sorry.

Didn't Romeo and Juliet open with Romeo moping about the last girl he was with and then completely forgetting about her to chase the next jailbait he laid eyes on? How does anyone take their lust seriously?

Once again, if you're taking the logic of Shakespearean plays seriously, you're doing it wrong.

Sep 27, 2009#131

Cat

:clap clearly you have bested us.

Sep 27, 2009#132

HowDroll

Cat said:
Didn't Romeo and Juliet open with Romeo moping about the last girl he was with and then completely forgetting about her to chase the next jailbait he laid eyes on? How does anyone take their lust seriously?

This. I can't believe people are actually arguing that R&J is some great love story. Juliet was 13, Romeo was 16; they knew each other for a matter of days. That's not love, guys. It's two teeny boppers who are whacked out on hormones. Don't get me wrong; I've read all of Shakespeare's major plays, and R&J is in my top 5 favorites. I'm not arguing that the intensity of the passion that R&J had for each other isn't powerful or moving, because it is, and I think most of us have had that experience of being blinded by "young love" at one time or another. But it's absolutely not love--it's two kids who believe that the tingling in their nalgas is something more than lust.

Protip: killing yourself over someone who you've "been in love with omg" for a week is not romantic. It makes you a fucking idiot, and that's why R&J is a tragedy. All of Shakespeare's tragic heroes have a fatal flaw (Hamlet's indecisiveness, Macbeth's ambition, Othello's jealousy, etc.) They're all responsible for their own deaths, and we're supposed to learn something from them... not structure our definition of love around them.

Sep 28, 2009#133

@Li3n

@Lally

You really don't need to get into the whole Shakespeare debate, just read what i said about my original point.

HowDroll said:
Protip: killing yourself over someone who you've \"been in love with omg\" for a week is not romantic. It makes you a fucking idiot, and that's why R&J is a tragedy.

No, it's a tragedy coz they die... the being idiots part it's just how they get to that part (all tragedy is either someone doing something stupid or being a prick and ignoring warnings).

The star crossed lovers is a very old theme, them being teenagers (ok, younger then usual teenagers) is more likely trying to justify making their interaction more melodramatic then showing them as morons... especially since the play was based on an already existing poem.

Plus, the original point was that while the "idiot hormone-suicide teens" interpretation does work, it's hardly the most prevalent one, see here too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_and_Juliet#Themes_and_motifs (heh, it even says that some have criticised it because the tragedy came because an accident of fate instead of any character flaw, but then of course if Romeo wasn't so suicide happy they wouldn't have died at all...).

\"Cat\" said:
Didn't Romeo and Juliet open with Romeo moping about the last girl he was with and then completely forgetting about her to chase the next jailbait he laid eyes on? How does anyone take their lust seriously?

He didn't kill himself for what's her name, did he... classic contrast between the fake and real thing... (double suicide make it hard to not take them seriously).

Of course this being literary analysis and Will being dead there's no way to be sure what interpretation is closer to the truth.

Sep 28, 2009#134

fade

Does it really matter? I mean, technically, both of these arguments are right. Juski is dead on that the flourishing love is a huge element and a foil to the family feud. But Lally, et al are also correct because I think it's fairly clear that the stupidity of youth is in there as well (the "old" guys in the background chat about it in the beginning, if I recall correctly--how much more setup do you need?). I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

On the other hand, I totally disagree that teen romances are just totally hormone-driven. That's silly. It's really insulting to teenagers, and it also ignores that totally unaffixed way of thinking that younger people have. They can fall madly in love because they don't have the experience and don't think about the consequences. That doesn't mean it's not real. In fact, it's one of those things that ought to be admired, because it never comes back.

Sep 28, 2009#135

Iaculus

@Li3n said:
Cat said:

Didn't Romeo and Juliet open with Romeo moping about the last girl he was with and then completely forgetting about her to chase the next jailbait he laid eyes on? How does anyone take their lust seriously?

Click to expand...

He didn't kill himself for what's her name, did he... classic contrast between the fake and real thing... (double suicide make it hard to not take them seriously).

One could argue that he simply didn't get the pretext with Rosaline. After all, it never progressed beyond the 'admiration from afar' stage there. Nothing like getting laid to futz up thy hormones.

To be honest, I always sympathised with Juliet a bit more. Never a good sign when the thirteen-year-old is the more sensible, proactive half of your relationship.

Sep 28, 2009#136

@Li3n

Iaculus said:
One could argue that he simply didn't get the pretext with Rosaline. After all, it never progressed beyond the 'admiration from afar' stage there. Nothing like getting laid to futz up thy hormones.

She told him to ef off as i recall (or at least his mates make it seem that way)... and there's a point to be made about his poetry for Juliet being better... (and the fact that they saw italians as being capable of stuff like that in England... and we all still do, don't we)

And she too kills herself, though her parents being assholes give her moe then one reason i guess...

I mean, technically, both of these arguments are right.

Which brings us back to the original point on why she was wrong to pick on that song because it was using the other point of view.

Sep 28, 2009#137

Lally

fade said:
Does it really matter? I mean, technically, both of these arguments are right. Juski is dead on that the flourishing love is a huge element and a foil to the family feud. But Lally, et al are also correct because I think it's fairly clear that the stupidity of youth is in there as well (the "old" guys in the background chat about it in the beginning, if I recall correctly--how much more setup do you need?). I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

Yeah, I don't really see the reason for the dickishness, either, which is why I didn't post any more snippy retorts. It's not like we're arguing the answer to a math problem or something. It's personal interpretation. I actually agree that the play is beautifully written, and that the teenagers were passionate about each other -- you can read that on the page. Obviously everyone here has read the play and is willing to look beyond the surface, and that's not even why I was griping in the first place. I was griping about morons that cite or use the play and don't even know wtf they're talking about. So I really don't see any reason for all the sniping, except this is Halforums, and that's what we do here.

Sep 28, 2009#138

@Li3n

Lally said:
I was griping about morons that cite or use the play and don't even know wtf they're talking about.

And that don't get to use the whole "personal interpretation" excuse?

Also, Romeo and Juliet are just the most known examples of the star-crossed lovers... which is why a song including them as an example of "love" works anyhow (i did mention Tristan and Isolde, didn't I... )

Sep 28, 2009#139

Lally

@Li3n;263845][quote=Lally said:
I was griping about morons that cite or use the play and don't even know wtf they're talking about.

And that don't get to use the whole "personal interpretation" excuse?[/QUOTE]

sure. whatever.

Sep 28, 2009#140

@Li3n

No really, you started off by saying that R&J is about how teenagers are stupid and not love... and that's why it's used badly in the song... that's what i objected too... then this turned into lit 101...

Sep 28, 2009#141

Lally

No really, I'm done arguing with you.

Sep 28, 2009#142

HowDroll

fade said:
They can fall madly in love because they don't have the experience and don't think about the consequences. That doesn't mean it's not real. In fact, it's one of those things that ought to be admired, because it never comes back.

Sep 28, 2009#143

D

Dubyamn

Lally said:
Yeah, I don't really see the reason for the dickishness, either, which is why I didn't post any more snippy retorts.It's not like we're arguing the answer to a math problem or something. It's personal interpretation. I actually agree that the play is beautifully written, and that the teenagers were passionate about each other -- you can read that on the page. Obviously everyone here has read the play and is willing to look beyond the surface, and that's not even why I was griping in the first place. I was griping about morons that cite or use the play and don't even know wtf they're talking about. So I really don't see any reason for all the sniping, except this is Halforums, and that's what we do here.

Well you did come off as kinda an ass when you dismissed every point Juski was making with a "I'm going back to English class" which implied that ultimately it wasn't a matter of agreeing to disagree you were right he was wrong and you had the English major.

And I don't think that anybody past the age of 16 doesn't know that Romeo and Juliet die in the end. They just have a different understanding of it.

Sep 28, 2009#144

Lally

I wasn't trying to dismiss his points. Like I said before, I agree with him in his justification, just not the end conclusion that they were actually deeply in love. The "take a high school English class" comment actually really hurt my feelings so rather than let myself get more worked up over it, I decided to pick up my toys and go home. That's all.

Sep 28, 2009#145

Chazwozel

@Li3n said:
No really, you started off by saying that R&J is about how teenagers are stupid and not love... and that's why it's used badly in the song... that's what i objected too... then this turned into lit 101...

Dude.... shut up.

Sep 28, 2009#146

Shegokigo

They've played the song in my OP 3x this morning alone. That's from 7am to 11am. 3x..... :explode:

Sep 28, 2009#147

fade

HowDroll;263876][quote=fade said:
They can fall madly in love because they don't have the experience and don't think about the consequences. That doesn't mean it's not real. In fact, it's one of those things that ought to be admired, because it never comes back.

It's not real. That's not love; it's infatuation. If your 13 year old daughter/niece/sister/whatever comes to you and tells you that she's fallen madly, truly in love with the 16 year old she met today and is going to marry him, would you admire her?[/QUOTE]

Emphatically, yes. Would I permit her to do it? No. Would I think it was stupid? Yes. Admire her? In many ways. Again, not mutually exclusive.

I totally disagree with you that it's not "real". Is not feasible, but that's not the same thing.

Sep 28, 2009#148

@Li3n

HowDroll;263876][quote=fade said:
They can fall madly in love because they don't have the experience and don't think about the consequences. That doesn't mean it's not real. In fact, it's one of those things that ought to be admired, because it never comes back.

It's not real. That's not love; it's infatuation. If your 13 year old daughter/niece/sister/whatever comes to you and tells you that she's fallen madly, truly in love with the 16 year old she met today and is going to marry him, would you admire her?[/QUOTE]

But somehow i don't think i would be threatening to throw her in the street unless she married someone else (that's prob even older) either...

@Chazwozel

Give me a good reason to and i will...

Sep 28, 2009#149

ElJuski

Once again, if we took Shakespeare literally, especially 500 years away from the society he lived in...well, of course there's going to be discrepensies. I think most people are looking at the age thing a wee bit too critically from the rose-tinted glasses of the 20-aughts. By easing up a bit for cultural context, and by giving to the fact that Shakespearean drama is emotionally poignant but often intense instead of realistic or rational, and it's actually much easier to justify the whole Romeo and Juliet thing.

Oh, and Lally--apologies. I got bent out of shape and hit the ground running when Chaz laid out the "retarded" thing, amongst all the other snark that was piling up around the place. Obviously I played my hand as yet another asshole, and I'm sorry. You can bring your toys back!

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Once again, if we took Shakespeare literally, especially 500 years away from the society he lived in...well, of course there's going to be discrepensies. I think most people are looking at the age thing a wee bit too critically from the rose-tinted glasses of the 20-aughts. By easing up a bit for cultural context, and by giving to the fact that Shakespearean drama is emotionally poignant but often intense instead of realistic or rational, and it's actually much easier to justify the whole Romeo and Juliet thing.

Oh, and Lally--apologies. I got bent out of shape and hit the ground running when Chaz laid out the "retarded" thing, amongst all the other snark that was piling up around the place. Obviously I played my hand as yet another asshole, and I'm sorry. You can bring your toys back!

Sep 28, 2009#150

Armadillo

I hate hate HATE the Black Eyed Peas ever since they got that pants-pissing doofus to be their female lead. They went from one of the best hip-hop groups going to a parody of a bad pop group in no time flat.

Here's my evidence. Before:

After (same song, but who the fuck can tell?):

Sep 28, 2009#151

Shegokigo

So anyway, from 7am to 4pm when I clocked out, the song in my OP played 8x.... EIGHT TIMES!!!!!! EIGHT BLOODY BRAIN MELTING TIMES!!!!

Sep 28, 2009#152

Lally

ElJuski said:
Oh, and Lally--apologies. I got bent out of shape and hit the ground running when Chaz laid out the "retarded" thing, amongst all the other snark that was piling up around the place. Obviously I played my hand as yet another asshole, and I'm sorry. You can bring your toys back!

It's funny that I was trying to call out someone who obviously has no idea what she is talking about -- remember, this is the songwriter that refers to herself as the Scarlet Letter... I think it's safe to say she's not a lit major -- and ended up bickering with someone that obviously has as much appreciation for the study of literature as I do. I was snippy too, so I apologize for that... and although I do stand by the notion that people trying to compare themselves to a crazy couple of kids like Romeo & Juliet are kinda what's wrong with people's whole notion of love, I can understand the desire to compare your personal experience of love with the uninhibited, passionate lust of young people feeling such things for the first time.

Sep 28, 2009#153

Chazwozel

@Li3n;264190][quote=HowDroll;263876][quote=fade said:
They can fall madly in love because they don't have the experience and don't think about the consequences. That doesn't mean it's not real. In fact, it's one of those things that ought to be admired, because it never comes back.

It's not real. That's not love; it's infatuation. If your 13 year old daughter/niece/sister/whatever comes to you and tells you that she's fallen madly, truly in love with the 16 year old she met today and is going to marry him, would you admire her?[/QUOTE]

But somehow i don't think i would be threatening to throw her in the street unless she married someone else (that's prob even older) either...

@Chazwozel

Give me a good reason to and i will...[/QUOTE]

Translation: "It's a free country, make me". Nice schoolyard retort. Don't shut up then. Be my guest and continue making yourself look like a moron.

Sep 28, 2009#154

ElJuski

Chaz, I'm just saying, I don't think I've seen you add anything of value into this discussion other then calling people retarded.

Sep 29, 2009#155

@Li3n

Chazwozel;264369][quote=@Li3n said:
@Chazwozel

Give me a good reason to and i will...

Translation: "It's a free country, make me". Nice schoolyard retort. Don't shut up then. Be my guest and continue making yourself look like a moron.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, God forbid you actually explain why i'm being a moron instead of just making a blanket claim... giving reasons is so "schoolyard"...

Lally said:
It's funny that I was trying to call out someone who obviously has no idea what she is talking about --

I can understand the desire to compare your personal experience of love with the uninhibited, passionate lust of young people feeling such things for the first time.

Well there you go, something we can agree on...

Sep 29, 2009#156

Sparhawk

AGRGHGHGHGHGHGG!!!

This thread should be retitled "I hate this Thread!"

Sep 30, 2009#157

@Li3n

Sparhawk said:
AGRGHGHGHGHGHGG!!!

This thread should be retitled "I hate this Thread!"

Sep 30, 2009#158

ElJuski

Haha my ad is genius at the bottom of this page--

You got close too fast and he hasn't called again
Did you make one of these 3 BIG MISTAKES with him?

Sep 30, 2009#159

Gusto

ElJuski said:
Haha my ad is genius at the bottom of this page--

You got close too fast and he hasn't called again
Did you make one of these 3 BIG MISTAKES with him?

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Sep 30, 2009#160

Vytamindi

Fall in love with Tahiti!

Sep 30, 2009#161

Gusto

Vytamindi said:
Fall in love with Tahiti!

FUCKIN' DO IT

Sep 30, 2009#162

Vytamindi

Gusto;265826][quote=Vytamindi said:
Fall in love with Tahiti!

FUCKIN' DO IT[/QUOTE]
Come... let us rekindle our romance in the peanut-smelling lands of Tahiti.

Sorry, Tahiti reminds me of tahini. I am quite sure the place doesn't smell like that. . . unless it does.

Sep 30, 2009#163

Gusto

Vytamindi;265838][quote=Gusto;265826][quote=Vytamindi said:
Fall in love with Tahiti!

Sep 30, 2009#164

HowDroll

"MAKE HIM FALL FOR YOU": Learn the "Secret Psychology" to what makes a man fall in love... And keeps him hooked for the long term...

You know your life is pathetic when you have to click on ads at the bottom of a forum to learn how to keep a man.

Sep 30, 2009#165

Vytamindi

Gusto;265841][quote=Vytamindi;265838][quote=Gusto;265826][quote=Vytamindi said:
Fall in love with Tahiti!

FUCKIN' DO IT[/quote]
Come... let us rekindle our romance in the peanut-smelling lands of Tahiti.

Sorry, Tahiti reminds me of tahini. I am quite sure the place doesn't smell like that. . . unless it does.[/quote]

The cucumber dressing land of Tzatziki?[/QUOTE]
Man... I WISH I could feel what that lightbulb is feeling!:becky:

Sep 30, 2009#166

Gusto

Sep 30, 2009#167

EpicEpileptic

There are a few songs that I find pretty annoying but the only one that I can think of right now, because I heard it on the way to class this morning, is "Jukebox Hero" by Forigner. I fuckibg can't stand that song. It's one of a few songs that gets me annoyed to the point of anger. The thing is I don't know why I hate it so much. I just do. I might post a video of it when I get home, but that also means having look it up on YouTube.

Sep 30, 2009#168

ElJuski

now it's a back to school guide sponsored by UGO. =/ the ads don't think I'm worth it to know how to keep a woman. Or a pet.

*glares at dog*

Sep 30, 2009#169

@Li3n

All i got was:

Find true love. Experience the amazing love of God...

I wonder if that still involves a virgin pregnancy...

Oct 7, 2009#170

Shegokigo

New hate song:

Disco Stick by Lady Gaga, it's being played at least 6-7x a day while I'm at work..... I really hate this station..... :eek:

rly:

Oct 7, 2009#171

ElJuski

My friend once asked me what a disco stick was.

True story.

Oct 7, 2009#172

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
My friend once asked me what a disco stick was.

True story.

Did you show him yours for emphasis?

Oct 8, 2009#173

ElJuski

It was a she.

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And I wish I did

Oct 8, 2009#174

Cajungal

Shegokigo said:
New hate song:

Disco Stick by Lady Gaga, it's being played at least 6-7x a day while I'm at work..... I really hate this station..... rly:

I keep hearing about this woman. Usually I'm exposed to popular music through ringtones and my grocery store, but not this time. I haven't heard her once. Guess it's time to youtube...

Oct 8, 2009#175

rac3r_x

This for too many reasons to list. Damn teen age years.

Oct 8, 2009#176

Cajungal

Cajungal;271520][quote=Shegokigo said:
New hate song:

Disco Stick by Lady Gaga, it's being played at least 6-7x a day while I'm at work..... I really hate this station..... rly:

I keep hearing about this woman. Usually I'm exposed to popular music through ringtones and my grocery store, but not this time. I haven't heard her once. Guess it's time to youtube...[/QUOTE]

Ok, well, I'm never doing that again.

Oct 8, 2009#177

Shegokigo