not good but certainly less dramatic than the first graph. it isn't a good tren, no question.
If Romney wins the GOP, I forsee bad things for....
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Ok, I'll bite. What did your comment on the housing market bubble have to do with what you quoted I said?
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Wait, was the entire world economy dependent on those things? No? Then I don't see the equivalency. As I have said elsewhere, until the world market is able to remove itself from the American economy, what I said is true. That can (and probably will change).
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That everything was emphatically insisted to be going fine, over and over, right up until the very day the whole thing came crashing down... and anyone who dared suggest fixing the problem ahead of that were lambasted as wanting to see the poor (and usually the minority) suffer.
You said, "The United States is too big to fail."
You know what else was too big to fail? The titanic. The WTC. The roman empire. Countless examples throughout history amply demonstrate that when someone says "X is too big to fail/fall" they are only fooling themselves.
It made me laugh, that's all.
You did seem to make some attempt to backfill it with the idea that our economy is so important to other countries that they would make sure it didn't fail. I completely disagree. The countries who depend on our economy can't possibly help us when it falters. The countries who profit from our current economy would be more than happy to take out place as the world's economic superpower should the opportunity arise. Those inbetween will commiserate, but indicate they aren't in a position to help.
I'm not saying that we're failing right now, or that we're in any sort of imminent danger.
I'm saying that statement is made of 100% pure grade A stupid.
Well, don't beat around the bush, be as insulting as you can.
China pumps money into our economy to keep it from failing already. It will keep doing so for the foreseeable future because if it didn't, they'd be in as much trouble as our own economy.
You don't have to agree with what I said, but don't be a dick about it. Either I can engage in the conversation and we'll all play nice, or I'm just going to go back to posting mocking posts and image macros. It's really your guys' choice.
China pumps money into our economy to keep it from failing already. It will keep doing so for the foreseeable future because if it didn't, they'd be in as much trouble as our own economy.
You don't have to agree with what I said, but don't be a dick about it. Either I can engage in the conversation and we'll all play nice, or I'm just going to go back to posting mocking posts and image macros. It's really your guys' choice.
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Try to look at your brain.
First look at your right ear, then look at your hair-line, then your left ear, then look down your nose at the offensive idiot. I think I learned that by time I was 3...
I can't believe that no one here is making hay with, "I am not concerned for the poor..."
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Low hanging fruit.
If that was all he said, sure. But the full text of what he said was less radically nuts than that. People keep playing that and making a big deal about it without following it up with all the things he has said recently he supports that would actually hurt all those safety nets that help the very poor. Now THAT would be news.
Just that little clip, though? No, that's kinda lame.
Just that little clip, though? No, that's kinda lame.
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The thing about Romney (and Gingrich) is he just says whatever he thinks people want to hear at that moment. Where his actual actions will land is something you can just never guess from what he says, because he genuinely harbors no connective association between what he says and what he does.
After he gets the nomination, watch closely to see how much he changes.
It's amusing that Obama's managed to irritate enough people that a field of republican has-beens and also-rans now seem to have a shot. It's too bad those are the only choices as far as most people are concerned.
After he gets the nomination, watch closely to see how much he changes.
It's amusing that Obama's managed to irritate enough people that a field of republican has-beens and also-rans now seem to have a shot. It's too bad those are the only choices as far as most people are concerned.
As unpopular as Obama was this time last year, whoever got the GOP Nom would have easily been the front runner in the general election. But now it is starting to look more like a Democrat Party (why the hell do the Republicans say that crap?) Cake walk.
It's also amusing that the best the Republicans can come up with is a bunch of has-beens and crazies. It'll be interesting to see where the next few years takes that party.
I'm sure there are a few quality Republicans that are keeping out of this race. They all have access to polling data and they know how difficult it can be running against a sitting president. Wait four years and the Republicans will have a very different looking field, I bet.
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Indeed. If Obama retains the presidency, it wouldn't surprise me to see Marco Rubio and Chris Christie in the next primary. Probably John Huntsman too. And Donald Trump. For a couple weeks. /thbump-tish
It's too bad Hermain Cain dropped out. Might have been fun to see him and Obama in the debates.
That's what I was thinking earlier this week. Why waste your chance to be president when you'll likely lose?
I don't know. When they started running Obama's approval rating was pretty low wasn't it? You'd figure the thought of being able to oust a president like Obama would be a huge draw for the ego maniacs that actually want that job. It seems more like the Republican party is just too split on what they want right now.
I doubt they are looking at just approval rating. They are probably looking at which states they can win in the electoral college. Winning the presidency is a surprisingly targeted campaign. Even then, Obama HAS an approval rating whereas almost anyone else that runs against him has to make a name for himself (or herself...) There is a whole branding operation required to catch up to Obama in that regard. Unseating an incumbent president is not easy.
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From what I have heard, it's never happened when the incumbent has had over a 40% approval rating.
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Trump was a joke, and Huntsman just because he was first out this time. If they decide to run, Christie and Rubio will probably be the top contenders.
I just don't buy that they would give in so easily. I don't think that a moderate republican that is needed to beat obama would ever get the nomination with the current state of the republican party.
I think its more that the republicans are unable to get a nominee on the ballot that could really pull in independants. So they're giving in to the base on this one.
I think its more that the republicans are unable to get a nominee on the ballot that could really pull in independants. So they're giving in to the base on this one.
I haven't read the stuff before this, but my experience is that the only people interested in representing their party are crazies and loose cannons.
This page really wants me to know that Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 1 comes out on the 11th.
Bush Jr. was a moderate?
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