Oh man, I didn't know everyone here was on the jury and saw the trial.
If you were on the jury, how would you find in the trial of Casey Anthony?
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But one could not escape the coverage of the trail, unless they don't watch the news.
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makare
The coverage of a trial is not at all the same as seeing the actual trial. That is why more weight is given to a lower court judges ruling during an appeal, because that judge actually got to see it. In appeals the justices even get to read full transcripts so that says something about how important it is to actually witness the evidence and the testimony.
I'm not sure - is it more fun to participate in the peanut gallery, or to mock it?
The world may never know, but thank you for your contribution - it has been noted and filed.
The news coverage of the trial is only going to cover the most salacious parts.
edit: There's nothing wrong with making up your opinion on guilt (which doesn't matter) based on the news coverage.
But to condemn the trial as shitty and wrong and the verdict as incorrect without knowing half of the relevant facts and arguments is just dumb to me.
edit: There's nothing wrong with making up your opinion on guilt (which doesn't matter) based on the news coverage.
But to condemn the trial as shitty and wrong and the verdict as incorrect without knowing half of the relevant facts and arguments is just dumb to me.
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Jiarn
What's the purpose of this post other than to troll? You're not posting your opinion on the trial, or the thread, you're trolling.
Go away.
This is obviously a case of jury not receiving enough of the evidence there was available. I feel sorry for the jurors when they find out about the rest of the evidence that was there. I feel for how much they're going to hurt over this.
Dave
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Not in this case. This case was televised. EVERYTHING got to be seen.
I hope the cameras were running on Nancy Grace's face when the verdict was read.
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makare
Dave, it is really not the same as being there.
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Jiarn
Charlie defending murderers/rapists/child abusers? Nothing new Dave. Now had she decried gays or women? Yeah he'd have been all over that.
I'm saying, for myself, this question is impossible to answer, since I'll never know everything the jury knows.
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Chibibar
It was? that is what happen when I don't watch regular TV. Ah well.
It would be interesting to see the whole case from beginning to end and form a verdict.
There HAS to be something going on that the rest of the world miss.
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makare
That's exactly what I was saying but I was able to say it without being antagonizing.
Hey, I support this verdict since it is backing up pro-choice abortion rights, all the way up into the 10th trimester
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Jiarn
Thank you for being funny in this thread Charlie you're always so appropriate.
What we do know is:
The prosecution was unable to show how she died, when she died, or where she died.
They found the body, and they have theories on the three things above, but unlike your evening crime dramas they cannot conclusively determine the manner of death.
It's because of this that despite all the other evidence, the defense's theory is plausible - ie, gives reasonable doubt. Even though the prosecution's theory may fit the evidence better, the evidence does not preclude the possibility of the defense's theory.
The prosecution was unable to show how she died, when she died, or where she died.
They found the body, and they have theories on the three things above, but unlike your evening crime dramas they cannot conclusively determine the manner of death.
It's because of this that despite all the other evidence, the defense's theory is plausible - ie, gives reasonable doubt. Even though the prosecution's theory may fit the evidence better, the evidence does not preclude the possibility of the defense's theory.
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Jiarn
So he can attack our opinions but we can't argue his? Come again?
Dave
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But see that's where you and I differ, Stieny. If the defense is telling the truth, then the evidence makes no sense and their case falls apart. The whole drowning thing - which Casey adheres to - would mean that the duct tape and tying up would be unnecessary.
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I didn't read his as attacking. He was stating that we weren't there and can't know.
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Jiarn
I think you know better than that, but fine, yet again I'll let it be.
GasBandit
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Folks,
Just step back and think about this for a minute - if you hadn't seen all the drumbeating on HLN and ABC, being told about it after the fact would probably make absolutely no emotional impact on you. The reason everybody's so worked up is because this is the latest reality TV drama. It's practically indistinguishable from the furor around the last episode of "Lost."
Just step back and think about this for a minute - if you hadn't seen all the drumbeating on HLN and ABC, being told about it after the fact would probably make absolutely no emotional impact on you. The reason everybody's so worked up is because this is the latest reality TV drama. It's practically indistinguishable from the furor around the last episode of "Lost."
Also, my bad taste flippant reply aside, I was defending the trial/justice system, not her specifically. She got a trial, and a jury of her peers found her innocent.
Another small thing, a reason I'm a little flippant about this is that it's another example of everyone going apeshit over one white baby dying. People need to get mad about all the people dying in Mexico in drug wars that can be avoided if our government wasn't trying its damnedest to jail so many brown people and demonizing all the drugs that aren't accepted in white america. [/derail]
Another small thing, a reason I'm a little flippant about this is that it's another example of everyone going apeshit over one white baby dying. People need to get mad about all the people dying in Mexico in drug wars that can be avoided if our government wasn't trying its damnedest to jail so many brown people and demonizing all the drugs that aren't accepted in white america. [/derail]
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makare
what the hell charlie... what the hell
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Chibibar
So Casey admit her daughter died in accidental drowning? (I haven't really been keeping up with this) does this mean she is guilty of involuntary manslaughter?
Ah yes, the concept that in a perfect world everyone would agree on the One Thing we should all focus on, and we should forget everything else because on some arbitrary scale the One Thing is worse than the little things we all seem to get caught up in.
Put your money where your mouth is.
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makare
Depends on how the accident happened.
I have no idea what this means. I care more about ending the war on drugs than this verdict.
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makare
the point is what the hell does that have to do with this thread?
It's complicated. She admits that her father found her daughter drowned. She doesn't admit to leaving daughter in a situation where she could have drowned. The defense suggests that someone left the pool ladder in place, and the gate open, but not that it was necessarily Casey. She admits that she helped her father hide the body.
It is possible that this trial has left her open to being charged with such a charge, but it would be as difficult to prosecute as this case was. Further, double jeopardy may make it impossible for them to try - this case does have a manslaughter charge that was acquitted. I would be very surprised if the prosecution attempted to try her again.
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Chibibar
Ah so double jeopardy applies then. So a charge can't be place on her since she is found innocent of manslaughter.
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makare
they could get her civily for wrongful death
What it means is that if you truly subscribe to the "One Thing All Humanity Should Focus On To the Exclusion Of All other things" fallacy then you wouldn't be yapping away here, you'd be saving the world from the One Thing you so dearly worry about.
I'm encouraging you to go take care of the thing that matters so much to you. Don't bother with those of us who are obviously unable to see the truth that is so clear to you - it's not like you can pull us out of this self-centeredness we are wallowing in.
Follow your dream, fight your cause, and live as a better person.
Meanwhile, we'll be down here in the muck making silly arguments about matters irrelevant to the human condition. Feel free to pity or laugh at us, but don't let us deter you from your divine path.
GasBandit
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What the media should learn (but won't) from the Casey Anthony trial.
I didn't know ABC paid Casey Anthony $200,000 forexclusive interviews er, make that "video and picture rights."
I didn't know ABC paid Casey Anthony $200,000 for
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