I'm joining the army

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Or, to be more precise, the Republic of China military has asked me to join them, in the form of this cute little conscription notice they sent to my house today. Every male in Taiwan is required to do national service, and now it's my turn.

I know some of you guys have military experience, any general tips? I know some people also live in countries with conscription (Ranger immediately springs to mind), what was it like for you?

Oh, and if, in the next year or two, cross strait tensions get too high and erupts into violence, know that I fought and died with honor!
 

ElJuski

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God bless America for not forcing me to serve, only forcing me to sit through annoyingly bland or shmaltzily patriotic infomercials prodding me to join at the movie theatre.
 
Settle down, friendly Colorado insurrectionist, not every country with the word "Republic" in it's name or description is communist.






Or is it?

 
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Chibibar

my step dad tells me stories (he was in the Red army too) it is not like U.S. army.
 
Or, to be more precise, the Republic of China military has asked me to join them, in the form of this cute little conscription notice they sent to my house today. Every male in Taiwan is required to do national service, and now it's my turn.

I know some of you guys have military experience, any general tips? I know some people also live in countries with conscription (Ranger immediately springs to mind), what was it like for you?

Oh, and if, in the next year or two, cross strait tensions get too high and erupts into violence, know that I fought and died with honor!
EVERYTHING can be made into a sandwich. You will do everything wrong the first time, just shut up and try and do it that much better the second. When told to jump do not ask "how high?" Jump as high as you can and pray that it is high enough.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

I don't have anything relevant to add. I just want to wish you luck.
 
God bless America for not forcing me to serve, only forcing me to sit through annoyingly bland or shmaltzily patriotic infomercials prodding me to join at the movie theatre.
I didn't realize you were forced to go to the movie theater. You should call your congressman.
 

Shannow

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Settle down, friendly Colorado insurrectionist, not every country with the word "Republic" in it's name or description is communist.






Or is it?



All those fucker from acorss the way look the same, and you and I both know that they aint Amer'can, they aint up to no good. nuke em all, I says!
 
God bless America for not forcing me to serve, only forcing me to sit through annoyingly bland or shmaltzily patriotic infomercials prodding me to join at the movie theatre.
I didn't realize you were forced to go to the movie theater. You should call your congressman.[/QUOTE]

You don't know the half of it. I've seen Eclipse like five fucking times.[/QUOTE]


I FEEL YOUR PAIN!
 
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LordRavage

When you do long marches, hook the handle of your rifle into your belt and place you hand over it. It will look like your carrying it. Your rifle will grow heavy with long marches. Resting it with your belt should help.

Do as your told. Otherwise the sergent will make you his new pet project.

Start doing push ups before you go in. Atleast in America, you mess up, you do push ups. In the beginning you will be doing a lot of push ups.

You will get yelled at alot.

If you feel your going to go crazy and shoot everyone, calm down, talk to your fellow soldiers or a counsler. Do not shoot your drill instructor in a head.

Have fun.
 

ElJuski

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For the record, I really haven't seen Eclipse five times. If I had, I wouldn't be here right now, I'd be in the obits.
 
Go into this knowing that you need to basically submit your identity to the one they're trying to mold you into. Once you're out of boot, life is easier, and you can be yourself again. In boot, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

Most folks will tell you to never volunteer, and there's merit to this advice, but look at it this way: if you volunteer for stuff, you're guaranteed to be doing something different, which helps stave off boredom, which makes the time go by faster.
 
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LordRavage

Most folks will tell you to never volunteer, and there's merit to this advice, but look at it this way: if you volunteer for stuff, you're guaranteed to be doing something different, which helps stave off boredom, which makes the time go by faster.
Holy crap. I had forgotton the whole "Volunteer" stuff. Listen to OC. He knows what he is talking about. I knew guys who saw volunteering as ass kissing. But its true, if your bored and feel like doing alot of work, then go for it. :D
 
Most folks will tell you to never volunteer, and there's merit to this advice, but look at it this way: if you volunteer for stuff, you're guaranteed to be doing something different, which helps stave off boredom, which makes the time go by faster.
Holy crap. I had forgotton the whole "Volunteer" stuff. Listen to OC. He knows what he is talking about. I knew guys who saw volunteering as ass kissing. But its true, if your bored and feel like doing alot of work, then go for it. :D[/QUOTE]
I would say always volunteer. There is a 50/50 chance that what you are doing is a shit detail or a break where they needed most of your platoon to do a shit detail. Better to volunteer and be the guy willing to step forward.
 

North_Ranger

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Never talk back to the NCOs.
Keep a straight face at all times when dealing with people who outrank you.
Work on your physical fitness beforehand, if possible. It will make boot camp much easier for you.
Particularly in firing ranges, follow the instructions TO THE LETTER. They are there to make sure there aren't any accidents.
Agree early on with the guys in your room what your lockers will look like. They have to look exactly the same or else you'll do it again during inspections.
Treat your equipment with respect, particularly your gun. Because if you don't, you'll just have to do it all over again.
Maintain good out-of-service relationships. Even though my relationship went belly up six months after my service, I would have gone bonkers if I hadn't spent time on weekend leaves with my girlfriend.
Learn the loopholes and use them to your advantage.
Build up a tolerance for boredom. You'll always have to wait long times before you rush, or you'll have to rush to get to wait for a long time.
If possible, maintain a stash of private rations in case of bivouac or being confined to barracks: caffeine tablets (don't OD on 'em), cigarettes, chocolate, canned tuna etc. If the bivouac food is inedible, at least you'll have something to give you a boost.
If you smoke, use that to your advantage. Smokers sometimes get breaks.
If food in bivouac is inedible, use your private stash. But remember to keep yourself in liquids: you can survive a while without the crap they call food, but you'll definitely want all the tea/coffee you can get.
Volunteer. Just do it. It's a gamble, but there's a chance you'll get something nice.
Learn the local slang.
Learn to take a joke, there's bound to be a prankster or two in every company.
If not currently doing anything, find a place where the NCOs are least likely to see you right away; this way you can avoid often shitty extra service.
 
I'm no soldier, but a buddy of mine in the Marines told me this about his time in boot when I asked him:

-NEVER volunteer in order endear yourself to the D.I.s, because they smell it a mile away and will make it worse on you, and your buddies will give you shit.
-DO volunteer in order to try new duties. The D.I.s will smell it as well, but they'll respect that approach a lot more than the ass-kissing version. Your buddies will still give you shit, but it may be more sympathetic.
-Remember that the D.I.s aren't out to get you or actually hurt you, they're trying to toughen you up, get you to rely on the others for support, and weed out the people who really aren't suited for the role and responsibilities that could arise.

I dunno how much that applies to the service in RoC, but I imagine it's similar.
 

North_Ranger

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Also, if you get sick or ache too badly, go to the hospital. But if not in serious pain, try to get the papers that will allow you to go to the mess hall instead of being confined to barracks.
 
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