Apparently enough thinking to go over every element and every isotope for a possible replacement core which you thought saved him from being a complete idiot who got the answer to his question handed to him by his dead father.
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Yes when he couldn't find a cure after 4 minutes of on screen research never once did he theorize that he could make a new element. Like I said one line could have fixed this problem for me. As it is Tony Stark failed utterly and needed his dead father to come to his rescue..
Dub, are you just trolling?
I enjoyed the movie, but I felt that the middle was somewhat slow.
I also felt that the middle fight wasn't as good as it was in the first film. In the first one you had the natural progression of the mark I suit being used to escape, then we have his finished product suit going on a mission and finally the final fight with the main villain.
The whole subplot of him not knowing how to deal with the ark reactor flaw and finally finding it in his father's disneyland plans just felt....done, you know? Like now it felt like there was a layer of mysticism or something in a tech based sci-fi movie. And the whole way it was delivered to him just felt completely out of the blue. Nick Fury coming in and giving him a tape that gives a kind of open ended message of you're the future which happens to be on his model and OH SHIT ITS THE SECRET TO A NEW ELEMENT!
I mean couldn't he have just left a note or something in the top secret notebook or something? Oh hey, BTW Tony, if you can create an element that looks like this the ark reactors would work flawlessly. I can't though 'cause it's the 70s. Also, try go build a time machine and prevent my death however you can.
I mean couldn't he have just left a note or something in the top secret notebook or something? Oh hey, BTW Tony, if you can create an element that looks like this the ark reactors would work flawlessly. I can't though 'cause it's the 70s. Also, try go build a time machine and prevent my death however you can.
I also felt that the middle fight wasn't as good as it was in the first film. In the first one you had the natural progression of the mark I suit being used to escape, then we have his finished product suit going on a mission and finally the final fight with the main villain.
This one went from a good opening action sequence at the race track, to a kind of shitty one where Iron Man and War Machine just duke it out in what I felt was an unnecessary move on WM's part. I get that Tony was drunk and even acting dangerously shooting stuff that the girls were throwing, but steal his armor and going toe to toe with him felt unnecessary I guess. The fight itself wasn't even all that interesting. We knew it wasn't going to end *too* badly so that really just left them with punching each other in the face in turn.
I feel like if they had kept the missions going from the first movie the action could have continued to increase as the film went on. Perhaps after the first fight with whiplash Tony could have realized that there are still people out there with his tech and maybe he hasn't quite privatized world peace like he thought. It might have been harder to naturally incorporate War Machine this way but still certainly possible.
I feel like if they had kept the missions going from the first movie the action could have continued to increase as the film went on. Perhaps after the first fight with whiplash Tony could have realized that there are still people out there with his tech and maybe he hasn't quite privatized world peace like he thought. It might have been harder to naturally incorporate War Machine this way but still certainly possible.
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No I seriously disliked the movie. Like I said too many main plotlines that went nowhere and were fixed in a anticlimatic way with little to no input from the "hero" of the story.
It might have been a perfect moving of comic to screen like Kego says but if that's true then they really need to focus on making a movie and not a comicbook.
If you write our Rourke, who would build the drones?
RDJ is not as charismatic in this go because he spends the first half of the move dying. Puckish and sick just really go together.
ITS A COMIC BOOK MOVIE the good guys always win.
RDJ is not as charismatic in this go because he spends the first half of the move dying. Puckish and sick just really go together.
ITS A COMIC BOOK MOVIE the good guys always win.
mostly added this quote for the troll-bait. marked in bold.
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Yeah, the one thing that movie needed was more research scenes...
Dialogue is a good way to handle crap that is too boring for a movie.
Daddy could not just come out and say "make this element!" he had to code it some way for Tony and ONLY Tony to figure it out.
Yes do notice how I suggested one line of dialogue that would make the deus ex into something a little more climatic than the father just handing it to Tony in such a terribly cliche way.
And also why did he have to hid the atomic formula of the new element? He supposedly wanted the ARC reactor to usher in a new age of non polluting widely available energy and he already had the answers all worked out so why not share it with people who could use it to usher in that new age as the technology became available? Why hide the information in such a way that only by chance did Tony discover it?
I'm talking logical reasons not because it was "Dramatic" for it to work out this way which I'm sure you can tell I don't think it was.
Moved your whole spoiler down here to answer each question in turn.
Why do the drones need to be built? They didn't add anything to the movie, the fight with them wasn't exciting. The creation of them was mildly interesting but disconnected from the storyline. Overall I think that the drones were just a waste of time so writing them out with Rourke would have been aces in my book.
Yeah Tom Hanks in Philadelphia was just an uncharismatic dope. Also do note how they tried to make him likable and puckish and failed utterly.
Yes yes but we aren't supposed to think they'll win. The outcome is supposed to be in doubt so we can cheer and feel as though the heroes have done something HEROIC when they defeat their enemy. To have a 2 on 1 fight with the badguy completely unable to hurt the heroes doesn't really give much doubt about how the fight will go.
I think you answered your own question there.
The problem was that the drones got wasted before the final fight, would have been so much better if he'd joined the fray around half way through the drones getting destroyed.
That was I think only one of the problems with the drones. But you are right having Whiplash attacking along side the drones would have made for a much more exciting final fight scene. Also i think that the drones should have been much tougher to take out instead of being torn apart by shotgun blasts.
Allot of the movie could have been saved but in order for it to work something needed to be cut. I just think that the best storylines for the movie were Tony vrs. Palladium and Tony vrs. the Military so I say cut out Rourke. It does leave a huge hole where the final fight should be but with the extra time I'm sure something could have been arranged for a climatic fight scene where Iron Man forces peace through superior firepower.
Allot of the movie could have been saved but in order for it to work something needed to be cut. I just think that the best storylines for the movie were Tony vrs. Palladium and Tony vrs. the Military so I say cut out Rourke. It does leave a huge hole where the final fight should be but with the extra time I'm sure something could have been arranged for a climatic fight scene where Iron Man forces peace through superior firepower.
Personally, I really liked the movie. I think it was a successful sequel to another good movie. I am actually excited now for Thor, Captain America, and the future Avengers movie.
There is only one thing that got on my nerves, and it's just an overused trope.
There is only one thing that got on my nerves, and it's just an overused trope.
Why do bad guys, when they lose, always activate a timed self-destruct sequence? I can understand if you were going to need time to escape, but one of the bombs was in his own suit and he knew he was going to die, so why not just instantly blow yourself up? Why give the hero so much time to escape? I know they can't just kill off the hero in the movie, but come on... just have the suit protect him and have him save Pepper from a crumbling building after the bombs activate rather then a beeping drone on the stairs.
Reading the argument's cycle of Dubyaman lists a problem, others explain where the movie addressed this problem, it seems like he needs to watch the movie again.
Yeah definitely not going to do that. One horrid viewing of it was enough.
Also I don't see anybody explaining why the final fight scene had to be the boring mess that it was or why Tony got the answers handed to him without any effort on his part.
I mean continuity and plot hole stuff, such as him doing research, things addressed in the film. If you were bored by the climax, no one can explain that away any more than you could explain away someone else's enjoyment of the climax.
Frank is the only one who said that there was talk of a new element and even he isn't sure of it. I didn't have any complaints about continuity my complaint was that there were very few scenes of Tony Stark trying to find a new core, but plenty of scenes of him just kinda dicking around. The film making didn't convey to me that Tony took this seriously nor did Tony the supposed hero of the movie solve the problem, instead it was handed to him by his father without any drama or climax.
Frank was right.
Fair enough I guess the flaws with it just go way way too deep for a dialogue fix.
Saw it a second time. I feel I have done my part to secure a third film.
I think it was better the second time around. Fewer issues bothered me. Though I do think that it would have been better for the Black Widow character if she would have been able to pull off a decent Russian accent after she reveals to Stark that she's a SHIELD operative. It would have made the character seem like a much more capable spy.
I think it was better the second time around. Fewer issues bothered me. Though I do think that it would have been better for the Black Widow character if she would have been able to pull off a decent Russian accent after she reveals to Stark that she's a SHIELD operative. It would have made the character seem like a much more capable spy.
It was an okay movie but it was paced poorly (except the action sequences) and the characters didn't really pop the way they did in the first movie.
That's my opinion of the film, pretty much exactly.
FINALLY saw it last night, and it was everything the reviews have said. Good, but not as good as the first, and the final fight was way, WAAAY too short.
But it had some truly great moments, and Marvel is really doing a fantastic job of building up to this Avengers movie. I'm so pumped.
But it had some truly great moments, and Marvel is really doing a fantastic job of building up to this Avengers movie. I'm so pumped.
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Isn't that a lesson from movies in general?
In the near future all glass will be safety glass that breaks in a such a way that it can't hurt you... and we'll have power armour... that's the way i choose to view it.
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