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...like a tattoo artist scorned.

Nov 29, 2011#1

strawman

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3967502/Tatt-poo-for-cheating.html

Girl cheat on tattoo artist boyfriend, boy finds out, girl asks for a tattoo, gets a tattoo of poo covering her entire back. Is now suing, despite having signed contract stating the art was at the artists discretion...

Nov 29, 2011#2

Shegokigo

after he got her piss drunk, then got her to sign the contract, if you want to finish that quote there stieny.

Nov 29, 2011#3

Azurephoenix

I can't stop laughing... :rofl:

It's a bit over the top for revenge... but really... she was stupid enough to agree to a tattoo from him after he found out she had cheated on him. What could possibly go wrong?

Nov 29, 2011#4

Shegokigo

She wasn't aware he knew she cheated, best I would assume.

Nov 29, 2011#5

Dave

She signed a consent form. No money for her. I thin it's funny she tried to have him arrested for assault and when that didn't work went all "he got me drunk!" So she's a LYING skank...and not a smart one to have the guy she cheated on ink her.

So while I think he was wrong to do this, I think she doesn't have a leg to stand on legally to recoup any cash.

Nov 29, 2011#6

sixpackshaker

That is one of the classiest tattoos that I've ever seen.

Nov 29, 2011#7

Shegokigo

@Dave - So you're saying there's no such thing as signing under duress or being not in a capacity to sign documentation?

Nov 29, 2011#8

sixpackshaker

Shegokigo said:
She wasn't aware he knew she cheated, best I would assume.

So don't let a piss drunk tat artist at your back.

Nov 29, 2011#9

Dave

Shegokigo said:
@Dave - So you're saying there's no such thing as signing under duress or being not in a capacity to sign documentation?

There is, but I don't believe anyone after they change their story. No assault? Well, I was drunk!

Nov 29, 2011#10

Shegokigo

Dave said:
There is, but I don't believe anyone after they change their story. No assault? Well, I was drunk!

Perhaps she didn't want to make herself seem unreliable as as a victim?

@Sixpack - The artist wasn't drunk, she was.

Nov 29, 2011#11

Azurephoenix

She was a moron for thinking that he wouldn't find out she had cheated on him with his best friend.

Nov 29, 2011#12

Shegokigo

Azurephoenix said:
She was a moron for thinking that he wouldn't find out she had cheated on him with his best friend.

That would be correct.

Nov 29, 2011#13

strawman

I dunno enough about the case to say. If she can prove that the contract was not legal due to her drunken state, then she might have a case. I hear some people get stupid tattoos when they are drunk and are unsuccessful at suing the tattoo artist.

People's signatures change based on how drunk they are past a certain point. I suspect that if her signature is "normal" for her, then it's going to be difficult to prove she was too drunk to make a reasonable decision.

But, tossing all that aside, I think she should still have a case. The "artist's discretion" clause is usually just added to prevent people from suing for minor errors or poor artistic ability. It's not meant to allow the artist to interpret "Narnia Trilogy" as "Feces".

Nov 29, 2011#14

Shegokigo

Maybe he thought CS Lewis was a shit writer

Nov 29, 2011#15

LittleSin

I shuold not have read the comments on that article. -_-

Apparently any woman that gets tat's is a cheap whore1 Yaaaay. Good goin' internet.

Nov 29, 2011#16

Dave

stienman said:
It's not meant to allow the artist to interpret "Narnia Trilogy" as "Feces".

Did you see Dawn Treader?!?
Added at: 13:17

LittleSin said:
Apparently any woman that gets tat's is a cheap whore1 Yaaaay. Good goin' internet.

She's a cheap whore because...well...she is. The tats are secondary to her cheap whoriness.

Nov 29, 2011#17

LittleSin

The comments are saying ANY woman that has tats is a cheap whore. Idiots. I don't understand that ponit of few. I've heard it before from people around here. Tattoos are apparently a 'man' thing.

Nov 29, 2011#18

Fun Size

No no...I have tattoos, and I'm a cheap whore too.

Nov 29, 2011#19

CrimsonSoul

Fun Size said:
No no...I have tattoos, and I'm a cheap whore too.

Fun, the key word in "cheap whore" is cheap, meaning that you would have to charge something. You're just a slut.

Nov 29, 2011#20

Dave

LittleSin said:
The comments are saying ANY woman that has tats is a cheap whore. Idiots. I don't understand that ponit of few. I've heard it before from people around here. Tattoos are apparently a 'man' thing.

My wife now has 2 tattoos and I'm still torn about them. I certainly don't like a lot of tattoos on a woman as I do think they can look "trashy".

Nov 29, 2011#21

ThatNickGuy

Yeah, I can't really agree with his method on getting her to sign, but I can't deny that his manner of revenge is flipping awesome. He didn't force the wine or the shots down her throat. She asked him for the tattoo. She was dumb enough in the first place to ask the dude she cheated on for the tattoo. I'd say fair's fair here.

Nov 29, 2011#22

makare

I don't know UK law but here I am sure she'd win something. It was dumb of her to trust him to tattoo her but that guy is an asshole. I hope word gets around he can't be trusted as a tattoo artist.

Nov 29, 2011#23

Fun Size

CrimsonSoul said:
Fun, the key word in "cheap whore" is cheap, meaning that you would have to charge something. You're just a slut.

I told you that I didn't usually do that kind of thing! I thought that you cared!

I THOUGHT THAT YOU CARED!

Nov 29, 2011#24

strawman

Scarlet letter anyone?

They weren't married.

She has sex with another guy, and he permanently* disfigures her body.

Are the two actions equivalent?

You can't call cheating on him a crime, but it's quite possible that what he did was a crime, so in the eyes of the law they aren't equivalent.

People would probably be on her side if he cut her skin with a knife and left scarring. The only thing that seems to make this 'OK' for some people is that she wanted a tattoo - even though it isn't the one she got. Rather than a few knife cuts, she gets a billion needle stabs in a scarring/inking pattern she didn't fully endorse.

I could see him getting away with putting an easter egg into the tattoo she wanted, or changing a small tattoo in an out-of-the-way place completely, but this is something that she won't easily be able to hide, or cheaply fix.

So without hearing more details about the situation, I'd say he went too far.

*even the best tattoo removal techniques today may leave some shadows and/or scarring, and some affect natural pigment, making it harder to tan/easier to burn, etc, etc, etc

Nov 29, 2011#25

Tress

LittleSin said:
The comments are saying ANY woman that has tats is a cheap whore. Idiots. I don't understand that ponit of few. I've heard it before from people around here. Tattoos are apparently a 'man' thing.

The slack-jawed morons who would post something like that tend to be the same misogynistic assholes who just wanted to bash women for anything. It could have just as easily been "women wearing red are cheap whores" or "women who drive cars are cheap whores." It's like a retarded mad lib for them.

Nov 29, 2011#26

CrimsonSoul

Fun Size said:
I told you that I didn't usually do that kind of thing! I thought that you cared!

I THOUGHT THAT YOU CARED!

Don't hate tha playa, hate tha game. Real talk.

Nov 29, 2011#27

GasBandit

I think there's such thing as a tasteful tattoo. I will even say a visible tattoo on a woman can easily just mean she wanted to decorate herself. But I will assert there is definitely a message being conveyed when that tattoo is both on the small of the back and displayed openly.

Nov 29, 2011#28

Null

I don't think this is awesome, I think this is pretty fucked up. At the very least, I think it would be just that he would have to pay for the cost of the tattoo removal. I don't doubt he got her too drunk to know what she was doing, and took advantage of it. I could easily see that being a form of assault.

Nov 29, 2011#29

makare

I don't see the placement of a tattoo having much meaning. What the tattoo is has more meaning. If it is a butterfly on the small of the back that seems to me more of a decorative attempt, especially with the fashion being short shirts. it doesn't mean anything about the person's sexuality. However if it is a butterfly with cock wings and the words "im a slutty mcslutface" on it then that could mean something.

Nov 29, 2011#30

LittleSin

Or it can be decorative and serve a purpose/have meaning. Such as masectomy tattoos:

NSFW, I guess?

Nov 29, 2011#31

makare

... that spoiler did not work.. i might have some splaining to do.. here in class... surrounded by the peoples.

>.<

Nov 29, 2011#32

LittleSin

Works now! Sorry!

Nov 29, 2011#33

makare

I lold

Nov 29, 2011#34

GasBandit

Obviously depends on the placement, as to the meaning of the placement. A tramp stamp is not a mastectomy tattoo.

Nov 29, 2011#35

makare

I hate the term tramp stamp I am excited for that to go out of vogue.

Nov 29, 2011#36

Ravenpoe

Tattoos are a case by case basis. I've seen some people with a single tattoo that I thought looked incredibly stupid, and I've seen some women with full sleeves our extensive body tattoos that I thought looked hot as hell.

As to the original story: should she have gotten a tattoo from the guy she was cheating on? No. Is what he did worse? I think so. They're both in the wrong.

Nov 29, 2011#37

SeraRelm

Not a fan of tattoos, but I do appreciate the artwork put into many of them.

Nov 29, 2011#38

GasBandit

makare said:
I hate the term tramp stamp I am excited for that to go out of vogue.

... so that then you can get your butt-top tattoo without fear of stigmatizing yourself?...

Nov 29, 2011#39

makare

I would never get a tattoo anyway. I am just tired of people using the term because it sounds stupid. The implication that getting a tattoo in a certain location somehow makes someone automatically trampy is just dumb. It's like the ankle tattoos from the 90s... ooo scandalous. It's just nonsense. And when I see culture embracing that kind of nonsense I generally dislike it.

Nov 29, 2011#40

GasBandit

makare said:
I would never get a tattoo anyway. I am just tired of people using the term because it sounds stupid. The implication that getting a tattoo in a certain location somehow makes someone automatically trampy is just dumb. It's like the ankle tattoos from the 90s... ooo scandalous. It's just nonsense. And when I see culture embracing that kind of nonsense I generally dislike it.

It doesn't MAKE them trampy. You're inverting cause with symptom.

Nov 29, 2011#41

makare

I am not a tramp but if I got a tattoo there people would still call it a tramp stamp. That is stupid. If a tramp got a tattoo on her shoulder it would be a tramp stamp because she is the tramp.

I am saying that it does not make them trampy that is why saying the words "tramp stamp" as if it did make them trampy is stupid.

Nov 29, 2011#42

CrimsonSoul

makare said:
I am not a tramp but if I got a tattoo there people would still call it a tramp stamp. That is stupid. If a tramp got a tattoo on her shoulder it would be a tramp stamp because she is the tramp.

I am saying that it does not make them trampy that is why saying the words "tramp stamp" as if it did make them trampy is stupid.

Makare, you seem stressed. Here is a picture of a cat.

Nov 29, 2011#43

Shegokigo

Tramp stamps aren't a overall term for women wearing tattoos, they're for a particular type of "above the ass" tattoo and yeah, that's always going to be a tramp stamp.

Nov 29, 2011#44

GasBandit

makare said:
I am not a tramp but if I got a tattoo there people would still call it a tramp stamp. That is stupid. If a tramp got a tattoo on her shoulder it would be a tramp stamp because she is the tramp.

I am saying that it does not make them trampy that is why saying the words "tramp stamp" as if it did make them trampy is stupid.

No, if a tramp got a tattoo on her shoulder it would be a shoulder tattoo. The "Tramp Stamp" is a tattoo in a very specific location.

Furthermore, semantics aside, your attempt to deny the link between the upper-butt tattoo and a tendency toward promiscuity is doomed to failure. Might I also suggest you not put a red light out in front of your door as well? Because that, too, has an understood meaning.

Nov 29, 2011#45

Ravenpoe

makare said:
I would never get a tattoo anyway. I am just tired of people using the term because it sounds stupid. The implication that getting a tattoo in a certain location somehow makes someone automatically trampy is just dumb. It's like the ankle tattoos from the 90s... ooo scandalous. It's just nonsense. And when I see culture embracing that kind of nonsense I generally dislike it.

Not every lower back tattoo is a tramp stamp. It just happens that many of them are.

Nov 29, 2011#46

GasBandit

Ravenpoe said:
Not every lower back tattoo is a tramp stamp. It just happens that many of them are.

Not every red light outside a door means a prostitute is working there, but that's still the reasonably assumed meaning of the red light.

Nov 29, 2011#47

CrimsonSoul

GasBandit said:
Not every red light outside a door means a prostitute is working there, but that's still the reasonably assumed meaning of the red light.

GasBandit has that on very good authority.

Nov 29, 2011#48

GasBandit

CrimsonSoul said:
GasBandit has that on very good authority.

The little woman is from Holland. There are ALL kinds of things I didn't know about towels on chairs and stuff, that is apparently common knowledge over yonder.

Nov 29, 2011#49

CrimsonSoul

Do go on.

Nov 29, 2011#50

makare

Well, I'll forever call it a lower back tattoo. the tramps can be tramps and the non tramps can be non tramps and the placing of their tattoos can remain irrelevant.

:drunk:

Nov 29, 2011#51

Null

The thing is, when someone says "tramp stamp," you immediately know what they mean - a tattoo at the small of the back, just above the ass but where it can be easily seen in low-riders if one's not wearing a long shirt. Unfortunate implications or not, when a term has that immediate and definite a meaning, it's going to linger.

Nov 29, 2011#52

Chad Sexington

Tress said:
The slack-jawed morons who would post something like that tend to be the same misogynistic assholes who just wanted to bash women for anything. It could have just as easily been "women wearing red are cheap whores" or "women who drive cars are cheap whores." It's like a retarded mad lib for them.

Man a tattooed woman in red driving a car is my fantasy; how did you know?

Nov 29, 2011#53

strawman

makare said:
Well, I'll forever call it a lower back tattoo. the tramps can be tramps and the non tramps can be non tramps and the placing of their tattoos can remain irrelevant.

Come at me, bro.

Nov 29, 2011#54

Allen who is Quiet

Having a tramp stamp does not make you a tramp. However, it is a tramp's uniform.

Nov 30, 2011#55

gargoyle_eva

To me tramp stamps are a specific kind of tattoo. One placed on the lower back, seen above the top of jeans, with 2 or more of the following:
Tribalesque design (usually extending form 1/2 to 3/4 of the width of dat ass)
Butterflys
Dolphins
Stars
Some corny empowering phrase
Japanese Kanji

These are the reqirments for a tramp stamp. All others are simply lower back tattoo's.

Nov 30, 2011#56

Grytpipe-Thynne

I know little about tattoos, but surely one of this size must have taken a considerable time, maybe even more than one sitting?

Nov 30, 2011#57

strawman

Grytpipe-Thynne said:
I know little about tattoos, but surely one of this size must have taken a considerable time, maybe even more than one sitting?

Tattooing, like most other arts, can be done quickly and "good enough" or slowly and great. Very good tattoo artists can produce excellent tattoos in limited time, while poor artists can spend hours over many sessions and still get poor results.

It's a one color tattoo with very basic shading. We don't have high quality close-up pictures but I suspect it's a very basic, fast technique that doesn't have a lot of fine definition.

Even so, she started out wanting a full back tattoo, so even if it did take several hours it wouldn't necessarily be suspect. He'd have to be careful if it was a multi-session thing - tell her this was just the background and leave enough of it incomplete after each session that it would be hard to tell what it is.

But I suspect this is something a competent tattoo artist could do in an hour or so.

Nov 30, 2011#58

GasBandit

CrimsonSoul said:
Do go on.

Nuh uh. Knowledge is power - neither should be trusted too much to others.

Nov 30, 2011#59

makare

the nuh uh made me laugh.

Nov 30, 2011#60

CrimsonSoul

GasBandit said:
Nuh uh. Knowledge is power - neither should be trusted too much to others.

Then I suppose I shall have to submit another question to sexingtonsecrets.blogspot.com

Nov 30, 2011#61

strawman

In other news, this story is fake:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/poop-tattoo-story-is-crap-8764319

Nov 30, 2011#62

Tress

You expect me to believe that something I read on the internet is fake? I have a hard time believing that.

Nov 30, 2011#63

makare

Yay the world is as it was.. oh wait the wait it was kind of sucked.

Damn it :Leyla:

Nov 30, 2011#64

Cajungal

Good lord. He could have just taken an actual shit on something of hers instead. Not as permanent, but that way he doesn't have to tarnish his reputation as a professional in order to get revenge. She sucks for cheating, that's for sure, and I can't blame him for wanting to hurt her in some way. But jeez.

Nov 30, 2011#65

Tress

Cajungal said:
Good lord. He could have just taken an actual shit on something of hers instead. Not as permanent, but that way he doesn't have to tarnish his reputation as a professional in order to get revenge. She sucks for cheating, that's for sure, and I can't blame him for wanting to hurt her in some way. But jeez.

It was fake. Never happened.