Malaysian Churches Firebombed for using "Allah"

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Call them Broken Telephone like everyone else dammit...

You're answering your own questions here and at the same time ignoring what I said. That takes skill.
He was always a natural at it, how ever didn't you notice it until now?!
 
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Chazwozel

This is why I like being agnostic.

I think you're all fucking retarded

*don't change my posts because you don't like what I have to say*
 
Seriously? :facepalm:

So hey, we are going to try something here. When you act like an asshole and insult everyone then people who are not remotely out of line for saying "this is over the top" report that post I come in and play clean up. So seriously: If you don't like religion or other people having religion or whatever and feel like throwing out crass insults because you are a big man and have to let us know, try this nifty trick: DON'T.

And heres the kicker: Me editing your posts? That was your warning to avoid this kind of trolling.
 
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Kitty Sinatra

I'm an atheist. YEs, atheist. Not agnostic. Atheist, and right up there at 9 or whatever's highest on that scale I've seen mentioned in this forum before. I'm the Chuck Norris of lack of belief, baby! Yet all this religion talk is making me horny. I mean, it's so kinky, this believing in something I don't believe in. Makes me wanna dress up in a fur suit and sing Hallelujah while I pray no one I know sees me.

Huh. This post took a weird turn. It's probably best to ignore me.
 
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Chazwozel

Seriously? :facepalm:

So hey, we are going to try something here. When you act like an asshole and insult everyone then people who are not remotely out of line for saying "this is over the top" report that post I come in and play clean up. So seriously: If you don't like religion or other people having religion or whatever and feel like throwing out crass insults because you are a big man and have to let us know, try this nifty trick: DON'T.

And heres the kicker: Me editing your posts? That was your warning to avoid this kind of trolling.
Uh, I wasn't trolling.

Anyone who tries to make logical conclusions using the bible or the quran as a basis is a fucking retard. About half of the worlds problems stem from people taking their holy books out of context, misinterpretations, and making literal translations or poor ones. Sorry. Truth hurts yo.
 
Uh, I wasn't trolling.

Anyone who tries to make logical conclusions using the bible or the quran as a basis is a fucking retard. About half of the worlds problems stem from people taking their holy books out of context, misinterpretations, and making literal translations or poor ones. Sorry. Truth hurts yo.
Aren't those examples of arriving at illogical conclusions? How does that invalidate any use of the premise?
 

Dave

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Seriously? :facepalm:

So hey, we are going to try something here. When you act like an asshole and insult everyone then people who are not remotely out of line for saying "this is over the top" report that post I come in and play clean up. So seriously: If you don't like religion or other people having religion or whatever and feel like throwing out crass insults because you are a big man and have to let us know, try this nifty trick: DON'T.

And heres the kicker: Me editing your posts? That was your warning to avoid this kind of trolling.
Uh, I wasn't trolling.

Anyone who tries to make logical conclusions using the bible or the quran as a basis is a fucking retard. About half of the worlds problems stem from people taking their holy books out of context, misinterpretations, and making literal translations or poor ones. Sorry. Truth hurts yo.[/QUOTE]

First, calling people morons or "fucking retarded" for believing in something you don't pretty much IS trolling no matter what you say. It was reported, a mod made the call. Coming back in, changing your post and basically being an asshat again is not cool. Let me put it another way.

[FONT=&quot]Arguing with Infraction – If a mod assesses an infraction point or points and you do not agree, you have the right to send that mod or the admins a PM or email to discuss. Whining will probably get you nowhere. If you decide to create a thread or take your complaint public be ready to take 10 points and a 24 hour ban.[/FONT]


 
I thought he was calling them retarded for arguing over who has the larger Muslim penis (and the better Google-fu).
 
Sorry guys, maybe thats what he meant but it sure isn't what he said. Go re-read his last post where he makes himself very clear. It doesn't matter if he was talking about 2 users here or all of humanity, we don't allow that kind of trolling for either. His position is fine, but his way of getting it across is not tolerated here.
 
Uh, I wasn't trolling.
Haha! Oh man, Chaz is such a kidder. A lot of the time, it's harder piecing through sarcasm in text, but Chaz just knows how to make it clear with that "Uh" at the beginning, and yet it's STILL hilarious.

Damn, that Chaz. He's one of a kind. Phew, lots of laughs.
 
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Chazwozel

Sorry guys, maybe thats what he meant but it sure isn't what he said. Go re-read his last post where he makes himself very clear. It doesn't matter if he was talking about 2 users here or all of humanity, we don't allow that kind of trolling for either. His position is fine, but his way of getting it across is not tolerated here.
So, I when can I start a bible e-peen quoting battle with you?
 

Dave

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Sorry guys, maybe thats what he meant but it sure isn't what he said. Go re-read his last post where he makes himself very clear. It doesn't matter if he was talking about 2 users here or all of humanity, we don't allow that kind of trolling for either. His position is fine, but his way of getting it across is not tolerated here.
So, I when can I start a bible e-peen quoting battle with you?[/QUOTE]

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Beat THAT!
 
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Chazwozel

Sorry guys, maybe thats what he meant but it sure isn't what he said. Go re-read his last post where he makes himself very clear. It doesn't matter if he was talking about 2 users here or all of humanity, we don't allow that kind of trolling for either. His position is fine, but his way of getting it across is not tolerated here.
So, I when can I start a bible e-peen quoting battle with you?[/QUOTE]

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Beat THAT![/QUOTE]


8=D :smug: DOH!
 
Sorry guys, maybe thats what he meant but it sure isn't what he said. Go re-read his last post where he makes himself very clear. It doesn't matter if he was talking about 2 users here or all of humanity, we don't allow that kind of trolling for either. His position is fine, but his way of getting it across is not tolerated here.
So, I when can I start a bible e-peen quoting battle with you?[/QUOTE]

PFff. Whenever you want, but I warn you, I can copy and paste like a muthatrucker.
 
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JCM

Sorry for the late reply... travelling.... Anyway, seems that you've been following what is mentioned in the Hadith, just not knowing it-
You said: "the prostation HAS BEEN THE SAME, since Muhammed".
I said: "the prostation HAS BEEN THE SAME, since Muhammed".
But you said "the Hadith" (which is what was used by everyone to relate how Muhammed prayed) is not necessary, even though its the number one source of Sunnah, and the Qran instructed us to follow his example.
I even added (that you for some reason removed) that we use the SHADOWS cast by the sun to determine prayer times. EXACTLY as you said that 1 billion Muslims do. Somehow you ignored that fact.
And where did one get the shadow position?

Not in the Qran. If you follow the positions of the shadow, you are following the prophet's instructions, which are recorded in the Hadith. All Mosques, everywhere use it.

You cant deny the Hadith, then go to the Mosque at the call of Adzan, which was called at a time as instructed through the Hadith.
In theology we call that in Portuguese \\\\"allowances\\\\". Take any religious course in Islam/Christianity or Judaism and they'll teach you that.
God's rules changed over time. In Abraham's time, one could have countless concubines and wives. Solomon had hundreds of wives.. In Adam's time, siblings could have sex with each other.
So with every time God sent down a prophet, he adapted his rules to the growing world, with Islam supposedly the last one before doomsay (however, Christians believe that there will be one more set of rules when Jesus comes back)
This is not contradicting anything I have said, in fact, quite the opposite. I stated, several times, that the Quran listed all the CHANGES made to the laws that were already in effect as well as adding new ones or removing old ones.
Which means Islam today and prayer today =/= Abraham's prayer.

Just like the prayer in Mecca at the time of Muhammed to the statues were nothing like Islamic prayer.

Anyway, it seems you follow some instructions that were not in the Qran, that are the Sunnah and taken from the Hadith, so this is pretty fultile.

My suggestion is reading up the original Sirohtul Nabiah compilations, they are very good at detailing every ritual, saying and thing a Muslim does, whether its in prayer, rituals or sayings, and shows the exact Hadith and Qranic ayat which this was based on, it'll enlighten a lot on the subject.

Chaz said:
My apologies, but seeing you dont even know something as simple as Catholic marriage rules, I'd rather not comment about this.
 
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JCM

Pity, I really wanted to get a source behind the accusation that Hadith (which are compilations of the prophets sayings and the base for Sunnah) are "Chinese Whispers", 10 years studying Islam, 5 doing Islamic theology, reading up on the two divides and 12 mazhabs, all the google-fu in the world, and this still the first time I've ever heard of it.
 
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