[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond

There's really only one way to do this story: they find something they shouldn't and Hydra decides they'd love to steal it from them. So instead of a balls to the wall action movie like The Avengers, it's a slower paced one like Die Hard where the Damage Control guys have to sneak around, quietly defending themselves and trying to hold back Hydra until Shield arrives and takes it off their hands. The movie basically writes itself.
The Stan Lee cameo could be the one poor guy who manages to get his car or apartment crunched every other week. The rental agencies now have a "shoot on sight" order out on him. :)
 
New character poster for Black Widow from Age of Ultron:


What I find interesting is that my first thought was, "Whomever composed this design must be familiar with The Hawkeye Initiative." Why do I say that? Because it avoids most of the sins of female character posing - indeed, many of the things that Black Widow in particular has been subject to on movie posters.

Here? No blatantly displayed cleavage. No "boobs and butt" pose. Realistic body proportions instead of the "Oh, I seem to have misplaced my organs" distortion.

Also, I like the obvious Stark upgrades to her Stingers and the tron lines, to me, look pretty cool. The texturing on the coveralls gives an impression of kevlar / carbon fiber instead of latex or leather, so it gives the mental impression of toughness and durability instead of kink. Overall, it's a cool upgrade to the character without losing the iconic look.
 
I like it. Now she looks like someone you wouldn't want to mess with in a fight, as opposed to before where she looked ridiculously out of place.
 
Yeah, she is. She still looks great, but she also looks more heroic and badass, right up with the rest of The Avengers.
See, this is what I don't understand. Comic books seem to think that all the cheesecake has to be there for their viewers/readers. I'm of the mind that if a character can be made sexy without the need to overtly sexualize them.

I think the male demographic of the board will agree that Ms. Johanssen is still hot as hell in this picture without having to be jutting out her tits.
 
So anyway, this thread is labelled "phase 3", in other places as well I've seen some movies and, for example, the SHIELD series, described/separated as "phase 1" and "phase 2". I assume this is a reference to separate eras from the comic books, or some such, but what exactly are the dividing lines? Are they honest-to-God official partitions, or fanmade things based on specific "large" events,...?
 
So anyway, this thread is labelled "phase 3", in other places as well I've seen some movies and, for example, the SHIELD series, described/separated as "phase 1" and "phase 2". I assume this is a reference to separate eras from the comic books, or some such, but what exactly are the dividing lines? Are they honest-to-God official partitions, or fanmade things based on specific "large" events,...?
My impression is that the Avengers films end each phase. So Phase 3 will start after this year's Avenger's flick.
 
So anyway, this thread is labelled "phase 3", in other places as well I've seen some movies and, for example, the SHIELD series, described/separated as "phase 1" and "phase 2". I assume this is a reference to separate eras from the comic books, or some such, but what exactly are the dividing lines? Are they honest-to-God official partitions, or fanmade things based on specific "large" events,...?
Well, the TV seasons seem like they're following the phases of the movies. The first season of Agents of SHIELD were all leading up to the events of Winter Soldier, and it looks like the current season is dealing with the fallout of early humanity's first contact with the Kree, tying in with the more galactic themes of Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
I had a bad feeling about Guardians of the Galaxy, but look how that turned out.

I mean, seriously... a raccoon.

So personally I'm betting that Ant-Man is still going to be decent, at least.
 
I had a bad feeling about Guardians of the Galaxy, but look how that turned out.

I mean, seriously... a raccoon.

So personally I'm betting that Ant-Man is still going to be decent, at least.
Guardians wasn't a disaster behind the scenes where they had to scramble to find a replacement for just about everyone involved.
 
After Wright leaving the project I figure it'll at best end up being just kind of okay like the Thor movies. Dark World had a shitload of issues and wasn't bad, but it wasn't very good either.
 
I think Ant-Man is going to be mediocre, at best. I had doubts of GoTG from the beginning, but always said as long as they leaned into the goofiness of it all, it would be OK. They did, and it was. I'm not seeing that from Ant Man.
 
anyways, is it just me, or does anyone else have the kind of.... nagging suspicion that Ant-Man is going to completely bomb?
That. See? Do more of that. No accusing anyone of doing anything. Just joining in on the conversation.

And you're right. It's not looking good. I'm still looking forward to seeing it but it might be the first Marvel film to really fail.
 
I think Ant-Man is going to be mediocre, at best. I had doubts of GoTG from the beginning, but always said as long as they leaned into the goofiness of it all, it would be OK. They did, and it was. I'm not seeing that from Ant Man.
I think the absolute worst thing Ant-Man has done since Wright leaving is that trailer they dropped on us. It's so painfully boring and absolutely nothing save for the one shot of Lang riding the ant stands out.[DOUBLEPOST=1425355843,1425355741][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, the worst part is Lang can be so interesting if they do it right. The current Ant-Man run of comics is really good! Unfortunately there's no telling what we're going to get instead, and whether or not his daughter, Cassie, will be in the movie, as she's basically the main reason all the AM shit happens to him in the first place.
 
I think the absolute worst thing Ant-Man has done since Wright leaving is that trailer they dropped on us. It's so painfully boring and absolutely nothing save for the one shot of Lang riding the ant stands out.[DOUBLEPOST=1425355843,1425355741][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, the worst part is Lang can be so interesting if they do it right. The current Ant-Man run of comics is really good! Unfortunately there's no telling what we're going to get instead, and whether or not his daughter, Cassie, will be in the movie, as she's basically the main reason all the AM shit happens to him in the first place.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Cassie will be in the movie in some way.
 
I think the absolute worst thing Ant-Man has done since Wright leaving is that trailer they dropped on us. It's so painfully boring and absolutely nothing save for the one shot of Lang riding the ant stands out.
Almost like they didn't have enough effects stuff finished to show in a trailer and make it feel dynamic.

I was totally on-board when this was an Edgar Wright project because I keep Scott Pilgrim vs The World close to my heart, but at this point the project has almost nothing go for it.
 
I think the absolute worst thing Ant-Man has done since Wright leaving is that trailer they dropped on us. It's so painfully boring and absolutely nothing save for the one shot of Lang riding the ant stands out.[DOUBLEPOST=1425355843,1425355741][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, the worst part is Lang can be so interesting if they do it right. The current Ant-Man run of comics is really good! Unfortunately there's no telling what we're going to get instead, and whether or not his daughter, Cassie, will be in the movie, as she's basically the main reason all the AM shit happens to him in the first place.
I seem to recall something about his daughter being involved. Unless I'm confusing it with Earth's Mightiest Heroes. But I could have sworn I heard that his daughter would be in the movie.[DOUBLEPOST=1425356042][/DOUBLEPOST]
Almost like they didn't have enough effects stuff finished to show in a trailer and make it feel dynamic.

I was totally on-board when this was an Edgar Wright project because I keep Scott Pilgrim vs The World close to my heart, but at this point the project has almost nothing go for it.
And Shaun of the Dead, and Hot Fuzz, and to a lesser extent The World's End.
 
Almost like they didn't have enough effects stuff finished to show in a trailer and make it feel dynamic.

I was totally on-board when this was an Edgar Wright project because I keep Scott Pilgrim vs The World close to my heart, but at this point the project has almost nothing go for it.
Yeah, SP and the big fight in World's End really made me excited for Wright tackling the way AM could fight.

I seem to recall something about his daughter being involved. Unless I'm confusing it with Earth's Mightiest Heroes. But I could have sworn I heard that his daughter would be in the movie.
I can't remember hearing anything about it one way or the other, but I think the total silence outside of the trailer is pretty telling of how this movie is going to play out.
 
I have no idea if it's going to be good or not, but it just feels like it's coming too soon after Avengers 2, and Guardians had the lightning-in-a-bottle Pratt thing and still being a space opera type deal. This feels like Green Lantern with a less-bankable star than Ryan Reynolds (saying this with all due respect that Ryan Reynolds is not a bankable star really at all (( sorry Paul Rudd, I love you)) )
 
I think Reynolds might (key word there: might) become a bankable star if Deadpool turns out good. Reynolds has been fighting Fox hard to make it properly, including the non-stop talking and fourth wall breaking.

But yeah, I'd said awhile ago that the Ant Man trailer reminded me way too much of the Green Lantern trailer.
 
I have the feeling I'm the theoretical target for these movies - that is, I'm geek/nerd enough to know of the heroes' existence and to be interested in a super hero movie, but I don't really know much more about the universe than the "main characters", and I've never really read the comics.
GotG ...well, I went on your recommendations, and because it seemed goofy/fun. The original Iron Man I saw because I wanted a summer blockbuster, and for nothing more. In between, I caught a few on TV, ended up buying the DVD because I wanted to see them, and I saw....errr...I think one other in the cinema (ok, so maybe they're lucky I don't go to the cinema all that often for my type - most friends with similar taste simply go more often, and if I did, I'd have seen most of them in theaters instead of on airplanes or bargain bought DVDs). The premise of Ant Man is a hard sell, and where the trailers of GotG got me thinking "hmm, it might be fun after all", the Ant Man ones have me going "meh, why bother". This is not a good thing.
 
Seeing as the Hawkeye Initiative was mentioned, thought I'd share this.

Male heroes dressed pretty much like women are dressed in comics.

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