Michael Vick's return to football.
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Hahahahaha, holy shit, I just got the whole story on that situation, that's too fucking funny.
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Shegokigo said:Thanks to that incident I've had to dial back alot of what I post and keep alot more to myself than I used to share back on Halfpixel.rly:
And there was much rejoicing!
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yeah, I can imagine. You wouldn't want people to think you were some kind of sociopath!!!Shegokigo said:Thanks to that incident I've had to dial back alot of what I post and keep alot more to myself than I used to share back on Halfpixel.
Indeed, people like Charlie and Kissinger can go about being themselves, playing their little games, JCM and Chaz can pound chests and howl. Shego? Shego has to bite her lip 4 out of 5 posts. 
Much rejoicing indeed.
I of course could never admit to having done anything to back up my claims or certain people would be right back on the phone with my local P.D. and I doubt I could explain that situation twice.
Cajun: No idea why you removed it, but I just want to ask. "Why does it have to be schtick?" Why can't I just post "myself" like everyonelse seems to have the luxury to do without having to "defend myself". It doesn't bother me in the least, I'm just wildly curious.
Much rejoicing indeed.
I relate more to sociopathy than insanity by a long shot. None the less, the games people play and assumptions they make on me bother me as a gnat to jet liner. The only thing that makes me curious is why they feel the need to lump me in certain circles? As if they ahd the slightlest clue of what I've done/can/cannot do.Kissinger said:
I of course could never admit to having done anything to back up my claims or certain people would be right back on the phone with my local P.D. and I doubt I could explain that situation twice.
Cajun: No idea why you removed it, but I just want to ask. "Why does it have to be schtick?" Why can't I just post "myself" like everyonelse seems to have the luxury to do without having to "defend myself". It doesn't bother me in the least, I'm just wildly curious.
I voted let him play. But the problem with my vote is, he participated in organized crime. i.e. a gambling ring. The NFL should not trust him not to be on the payroll of some sleazier mobster.
I could care less that he killed his own dogs. It is the gambling edge that can or should keep him out of the league.
I could care less that he killed his own dogs. It is the gambling edge that can or should keep him out of the league.
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I felt I overreacted, so I just decided to save that rant for another day.Shegokigo said:
I prefaced that part with "I'm not suggesting anything about you" and after shtick I said --or whatever you perceive the actions to be-- or something like that. I wasn't saying what I believe about your actions or anyone else's. I completely agree with you. Post what you want to post. I was just expressing that i get sick of people "calling you out" and making fun of you for your "act" when all any of us have to go on when it comes to knowing each other is what we say and maybe the pictures we post. I think it's as pointless as when people tell Chaz he's not that tough, and other things like that. This environment is different from knowing you people in person. I don't accept everything everyone says, but since I have nothing to support my beliefs one way or the other, I think it's best to just enjoy the ride and ignore those you don't like.
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The poll is flawed; we don't want him in the CFL either.
Yet the gambling ring has nothing to do with the sport of football. To me, the NFL should STFU about gambling unless they themselves stop promoting and participating in fantasy football. This is also gambling and is directly related to the performances of the players in the games.sixpackshaker said:
I want to know how Vick's 'posse'/'hanger oners' brought up the dog fighting plan to him.
Hey Mike, you know how you are making Millions in the NFL... I want to show you how to make Thousands in the world of organized crime...
Hey Mike, you know how you are making Millions in the NFL... I want to show you how to make Thousands in the world of organized crime...
I have no source or anything, but I'd be willing to bet (heh) that there's more harmless online fantasy football on Yahoo/ESPN.com than there is $100 buy in keeper leagues by the hardcore players.Edrondol said:
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Chibibar
I'm late on this one..... I'm kind on the fence on this.
Here is the problem.
People commit crimes. It could be low level crime (shoplifting) to high level (mass murder, ponzi scheme etc etc) the level of punishment should fit the crime right?
BUT then we have a 2nd problem.
Once you commit a crime, get caught, serve time, and then release. you have a record. This record is NOT going away (unless you are under 18 and turn 18 then there are some exceptions) it is REALLY hard to get a job after that. How can a person who may or may not be rehabilitated ever go back into society?
I can totally understand where people might not want that kind of element in their workplace cause SOME cases, these criminal lapse back into their old way and we can't have that in our workplace BUT some never turn back to crime and continue on (when given the chance).
Regardless of the crime, should ex-con be readmit to society? if answer is yes, then we have to decide WHICH crime are allow, and which crime are not BUT if we don't allow them back into society, what are we going to do with them? if you just release them back into the world and the world don't accepts them, then that element just go back to criminal ways so they can get back to jail and enjoy roof over their head and meals.
Now, this person's crime was dog fighting. In some society this is a sick sport. Dogs are starved, drugged, trained to kill other dogs. It is pure manipulation of animal for people's entertainment. What about horse racing? how is that allow? my wife knows quite a bit of horses and train some. She tells me that horse races, these horses are push to the limit and then some are just let to die when they can't run anymore. They are drugged (against the law) to boost performance. Same with Dog racing. Sure other animals doesn't get killed by their kind, but still as bad (in my book). Cock Fighting are allow in some country. Some country allows to eat dogs.
I guess for those people who don't think Vick should NOT return to NFL. What should he do now? does he have other skills? or is he one of those "typical football player" who are given a free pass cause he is good at football and has no skill? (kinda old stereotypical stigma, but I know that is not true for all sports player) What is this person allow to do after serving his time? should he be put back into prison and let OUR tax dollar let this man ride free?
Or there should be a higher punishment for certain crime? some might say death is extreme and many states doesn't really "execute" as many people per year. I recently saw on cable (forgot which channel) on how many people are still on death row after 10+ years.
Here is the problem.
People commit crimes. It could be low level crime (shoplifting) to high level (mass murder, ponzi scheme etc etc) the level of punishment should fit the crime right?
BUT then we have a 2nd problem.
Once you commit a crime, get caught, serve time, and then release. you have a record. This record is NOT going away (unless you are under 18 and turn 18 then there are some exceptions) it is REALLY hard to get a job after that. How can a person who may or may not be rehabilitated ever go back into society?
I can totally understand where people might not want that kind of element in their workplace cause SOME cases, these criminal lapse back into their old way and we can't have that in our workplace BUT some never turn back to crime and continue on (when given the chance).
Regardless of the crime, should ex-con be readmit to society? if answer is yes, then we have to decide WHICH crime are allow, and which crime are not BUT if we don't allow them back into society, what are we going to do with them? if you just release them back into the world and the world don't accepts them, then that element just go back to criminal ways so they can get back to jail and enjoy roof over their head and meals.
Now, this person's crime was dog fighting. In some society this is a sick sport. Dogs are starved, drugged, trained to kill other dogs. It is pure manipulation of animal for people's entertainment. What about horse racing? how is that allow? my wife knows quite a bit of horses and train some. She tells me that horse races, these horses are push to the limit and then some are just let to die when they can't run anymore. They are drugged (against the law) to boost performance. Same with Dog racing. Sure other animals doesn't get killed by their kind, but still as bad (in my book). Cock Fighting are allow in some country. Some country allows to eat dogs.
I guess for those people who don't think Vick should NOT return to NFL. What should he do now? does he have other skills? or is he one of those "typical football player" who are given a free pass cause he is good at football and has no skill? (kinda old stereotypical stigma, but I know that is not true for all sports player) What is this person allow to do after serving his time? should he be put back into prison and let OUR tax dollar let this man ride free?
Or there should be a higher punishment for certain crime? some might say death is extreme and many states doesn't really "execute" as many people per year. I recently saw on cable (forgot which channel) on how many people are still on death row after 10+ years.
I'd rather not see him play. I don't want to see this sicko get million dollar paychecks.
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This thread quickly devolved and repopped back up nicely 
He'd probably go in at league minimum and very well could be a wide reciever or linebacker.
At least that's what's been discussed.
At least that's what's been discussed.
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Chibibar
without the society stigma, the man did the crime, convicted, and did his jail time. He is now trying to rejoin society. I personally hope he plays again and have to pretty much work his way back up and prove to the rest of America he is truly sorry which is gonna be hard depending on which group of people you are talking toEdrondol said:
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Well to some people (including formunites) he can only repay society if he gets brutally tortured for the rest of his life.Chibibar said:
A few years in if he does well I doubt many people will still care, if he repeats anything though than well ya, but if he does successful i doubt people are going to care as much, time heals all wounds so to speak.
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heh.... unless a team get him and he does very well and win a superbowl or something (like MVP) people will soon forgetcrono1224 said:
Michael Vick has signed a 2-year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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fuckCharlie Dont Surf said:Michael Vick has signed a 2-year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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When it comes to any other skills he may have, one of the local gracery stores here hires the mentally challenged to push carts and bag groceries.
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Frankie said:
Ah sarcasm.
How is ol' T.O. doing in Buffalo? Anyone? Anyone?
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I'm just so very, very glad this wasn't the Cowboys.
And I hope things work out for him. He's done his time.
And I hope things work out for him. He's done his time.
Over/Under: 10, number of passes Vick attempts in the regular season when the Eagles aren't A) up by 21 or B) have their playoff seed locked up.
He might not be a QB. H'll probably be used as either a wing back or DB.
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