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New Promo Shots from "X-Men: First Class"

#1

Norris

Norris

That's right ladies and germs, X-Men First Class, the loose prequel to only the first two X-flicks that is coming this June. Produced by Bryan Singer, directed by Matthew Vaughn, and starring James Macavoy, Michael Fassbender, Kevin Bacon, and January Jones. Other than the very last image, which was a leaked incomplete promo shot, I say it looks to have potential.
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Above: Charles Xavier (James Macavoy) knows what you're thinking.
Below: Charles, Magneo/Erik Lensherr (Michael Fassbender), and Moira Mactaggert (Rose Byrne) show their students - L to R Banshee/Sean Cassidy (Caleb Landry Jones), Mystique/Raven Darkholme (Jenifer Lawrence), Beast/Henry McCoy (Nicolas Hoult), and Havok/Alex Summers (Lucas Till) - something.
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Above: Xavier and Lensherr play some chess.
Below: Sebastian Shaw (Kevin Bacon) and Emma Frost (January Jones) scheme, possibly at the Hellfire Club.
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Above: Lensherr wearing an in-universe early version of his spiffy Magneto helmet.
Below: L to R - Magneto/Erik Lensherr, Moira MacTaggert, Emma Frost, Azazel (Jason Flemyng), Beast/Hank McCoy, Havok/Alex Summers, Angel Saladore (Zoe Kravitz), Mystique/Raven Darkholme, and Professor X/Charles Xavier.
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#2



Jiarn

Why didn't Sony just give it back to Marvel....


#3

Norris

Norris

Because Fox owns the X-Men rights? Besides, while not directly comics based, I think this looks pretty good.


#4



Jiarn

Sorry, Fox. Nm.


#5

Tress

Tress

Not very appealing to me, but whatever. It's too early to be sure.


#6



Jiarn

Early shots of Wolverine were great to look at too. At this point we can only go on track record....


#7

Tress

Tress

Jiarn said:
Early shots of Wolverine were great to look at too. At this point we can only go on track record....
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And my god, that was an awful movie. I agree with you: I wish Fox/Sony/whoever would return the movie rights back to Marvel.


#8

MindDetective

MindDetective

I am not moved. Maybe a trailer can get me to budge but I don't see the potential just yet.


#9



Jiarn

X-Men 3 trailer showed alot of promise....


#10

Norris

Norris

True, but Matthew Vaugh is neither Brett Ratner or Gavin Hood. I happened to love both Kick-Ass and Layer Cake, though I haven't seen Stardust, so he get the benefit of the doubt for the time being.


#11



Jiarn

Stardust was actually pretty damn good....


#12

Covar

Covar

Jiarn said:
Why didn't Sony just give it back to Marvel....
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Why don't you give me $100?


#13



Jiarn

I'm more than sure Marvel would have paid to get those licenses back.


#14

Covar

Covar

and it's far more likely that this turd of a movie, and other potential turds Fox makes of the license, will bring in more money that Marvel would be willing to offer.


#15



Jiarn

So sad, and so true.... -sigh-


#16

Gryfter

Gryfter

Wow, that's... wow pretty impressive the way they are mashing up the time line of characters there. Xavier looks younger than almost everyone there. And Kevin Bacon as Shaw?!? Ugh. January Jones is not a terrible casting choice for Emma but she reads very old in comparison to the other actors.

I think I will be giving this one a pass... these are not my X-men.


#17

Kovac

Kovac

"It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it." - Matthew Vaughn

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/22/x-men-first-class-matthew-vaughn/


#18

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

*snort* HA HA HA HA HA!

*wipes a tear*

Oh man. I can't wait to not see this.


#19

Norris

Norris

Because angst like the Twilight crowd likes has NEVER been a part of the X-Men, has it?

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Nope. No angst there. None at all.

Seriously, this flick has a good director and a fine cast. It is a little premature to dismiss it based on all of six promo-shots and a few interviews that reveal maybe a paragraph worth of plot and a hint of the direction.


#20



Jiarn

I'm dismissing it because Fox gives me every reason to pass on it. They're previous comic book movies had great directors and fine casts as well.


#21

Norris

Norris

Jiarn said:
I'm dismissing it because Fox gives me every reason to pass on it. They're previous comic book movies had great directors and fine casts as well.
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I would hardly call Brett Ratner or Gavin Hood great directors.


#22



Jiarn

True, and Bryan Singer did give us the original X-Men that was pretty damn good. X-2 wasn't too bad either. Still, Fox hurt me one too many times to earn my trust.... I'll wait for initial reviews from sources I trust.


#23

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Jiarn said:
True, and Bryan Singer did give us the original X-Men that was pretty damn good. X-2 wasn't too bad either. Still, Fox hurt me one too many times to earn my trust.... I'll wait for initial reviews from sources I trust.
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PirateBay? *ducks!*


#24

Kovac

Kovac

Norris said:
Nope. No angst there. None at all.

Seriously, this flick has a good director and a fine cast. It is a little premature to dismiss it based on all of six promo-shots and a few interviews that reveal maybe a paragraph worth of plot and a hint of the direction.
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How about they focus their efforts on the better X-Men comics then?

They don't HAVE to direct the movie around the comics made in the 1960s...


#25



Philosopher B.

Bond + Twilight? :confused:

Finger-bangin' Uncle Sam. I like James McAvoy, but GATdamn, this movie looks like an excuse to parade pretty young people past us.

I mean to say, I hope I'm wrong and will reserve judgment until I see something more substantial, but GATdamn.


#26

Norris

Norris

Kovac said:
How about they focus their efforts on the better X-Men comics then?

They don't HAVE to direct the movie around the comics made in the 1960s...
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....They're not. Angst, teen or otherwise, has been a part of the X-Men from its inception to this very day. The characters from this movie are pulled from every last era of the book. I honestly don't know what you're criticising with that remark.


#27



Disconnected

Philosopher B. said:
, this movie looks like an excuse to parade pretty young people past us.
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I think most movies are designed to do that.
including porn.


#28

Gryfter

Gryfter

Norris said:
....They're not. Angst, teen or otherwise, has been a part of the X-Men from its inception to this very day. The characters from this movie are pulled from every last era of the book. I honestly don't know what you're criticising with that remark.
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I have no problem with the angst, that's a staple of the X-men comics, I do however have an issue with the way the characters are "...pulled from every last era of the book..." Xavier and Magneeto should be much older than almost every character there and yet they are not. They are decided to make Havoc older than Cyclops, they are writing out all but one of the original X-men first class (the only one represented is Beast). When I heard they were doing a First Class movie I was excited to see the original five team members in action but sadly I really can't see how this can be anything other than a poorly thought out What If story. Matthew Vaughn is good but the only way I will be able to enjoy this movie is too ignore the fact that it's supposed to be an X-men movie. They are surely ignoring anything that has come before.

This will be full of fail.


#29



Disconnected

can it fail if you don't expect anything of it?


#30

Jay

Jay

Jiarn said:
Stardust was actually pretty damn good....
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Stardust was prolly on top 20 movies of all time. I mean, I watched it with no expectations then booom, 2 awesome hours went by. I say that movie at least 10 times.


#31

Norris

Norris

Gryfter said:
I have no problem with the angst, that's a staple of the X-men comics, I do however have an issue with the way the characters are "...pulled from every last era of the book..." Xavier and Magneeto should be much older than almost every character there and yet they are not. They are decided to make Havoc older than Cyclops, they are writing out all but one of the original X-men first class (the only one represented is Beast). When I heard they were doing a First Class movie I was excited to see the original five team members in action but sadly I really can't see how this can be anything other than a poorly thought out What If story. Matthew Vaughn is good but the only way I will be able to enjoy this movie is too ignore the fact that it's supposed to be an X-men movie. They are surely ignoring anything that has come before.

This will be full of fail.
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It is a prequel to the two Bryan Singer movies, about the "first class" of that particular alternate reality. Just like the previous x-flicks, it is giving its own version of the characters and situations while trying to keep the spirit of the comics (or the spirit of certain eras of the comics). Not necessarily poorly thought out, just differently thought out.

Realistically, for this film to be a prequel, it would never have had a comics accurate original five line-up. While they could have had Cyclops, Jean, and Beast, Storm was stated in the first movie to have joined around the same time as Cyke and Jean. Iceman would be right out, and Angel's involvement would have depended on whether they paid attention to Last Stand or not. What they decided to do instead was merge their "Magneto" prequel idea with that of their X-Men prequel idea to create a story that focused on Charles and Erik getting together and eventually going their separate ways. I'd imagine that the choice of characters for their first students together was bare-ass pragmatism - they can do whatever they want to most of these characters.

That said, I can see where that wouldn't appeal to some people. To say that this movie is random or poorly thought out is, however, to not accurately reflect what they're trying to do with this flick.

Also - this movie will be ignoring "X-Men: The Last Stand" and "X-Men Origins: Wolverine". Bryan Singer is producing this and he was not happy with how those movies turned out without his involvement. Emma Frost being roughly contemporary with Magneto and Xavier lines up rather nicely with his reportedly wanting her to be played by Signourney Weaver in X-Men 3, so there very well might be some kind of plan at work here.


#32



Jiarn

Disconnected said:
can it fail if you don't expect anything of it?
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Didn't expect anything of Wolverine, it still failed.


#33

Jay

Jay

I always check reviews by my peers, you know those who can enjoy an entertaining movie and won't get wood from watching shitty movies like Mystic River or The Hurt Locker. Needless to say I knew far ahead of time that Wolverine sucked a dick and I remember being disappointed because Wolverine is one of my favorite superheroes. I watched it recently and uhhhhh..... it was terribad.

X-Men 3 was clearly an inferior product to the first two but then again I wasn't huge on it anyways. Why? They fucked up a lot of characters... heck, they fucked up rogue. Why? Prolly cause they wanted Jean Grey to be the lady of the film... because if they would have cast rogue properly as the fully "grown" southern belle", I wouldn't have to watch an ackward teenage romance with a teen rogue and teen iceman.

Oh and no Gambit.... for SHAME.


#34



Philosopher B.

Wolverine was a butt nugget coated in ass-shit and sautéed in fuck gravy.


#35

Gryfter

Gryfter

Norris said:
Also - this movie will be ignoring "X-Men: The Last Stand" and "X-Men Origins: Wolverine". Bryan Singer is producing this and he was not happy with how those movies turned out without his involvement. Emma Frost being roughly contemporary with Magneto and Xavier lines up rather nicely with his reportedly wanting her to be played by Signourney Weaver in X-Men 3, so there very well might be some kind of plan at work here.
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Why not ignore the others as well and start fresh? Why be bogged down by decisions made in previous versions? They would've been better off pulling a Nolan and starting from scrap.


#36

Norris

Norris

Gryfter said:
Why not ignore the others as well and start fresh? Why be bogged down by decisions made in previous versions? They would've been better off pulling a Nolan and starting from scrap.
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Because Bryan Singer is the producer?


#37

figmentPez

figmentPez

Trailer is out:


#38

Norris

Norris

To quote my friend and friendly neighborhood comic book guy "hip-hip-hooray for saving the franchise".


#39

Steve

Steve

At 1:25 in the trailer there is a red guy with a tail that teleports a guy out of a room similar to Nightcrawler. Who is that individual? Also trailer looks fantastic.


#40

Norris

Norris

Steve said:
At 1:25 in the trailer there is a red guy with a tail that teleports a guy out of a room similar to Nightcrawler. Who is that individual? Also trailer looks fantastic.
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That is Azazel, Nightcrawler's dad. In those two quick cuts, he is already 10x less moronic than his comic book counterpart was.

http://marvel.com/universe/Azazel_(mutant)


#41

Tress

Tress

Eh, I wasn't impressed. Personally I'll wait for reviews. As someone else already pointed out, the trailer for X-Men 3 looked good too - and we know how that turned out.


#42

Gryfter

Gryfter

Meh


#43

fade

fade

I'm usually a stickler for book accuracy. With COMICS however, it's okay if they mess with times and ages as long as they get the spirit right. This looks pretty accurate in that regard so far. Like others said, X-Men was always whiny.


#44

Covar

Covar

They're borrowing from Chuck Austen's run on the title. Clearly a good sign...


#45

Norris

Norris

Theatrical trailer came out today. This flick continues to look more and more promising.


#46

fade

fade

I still wish guys with superpowers would stop whining about them. I mean the x-men kind of have a reason, but still.


#47

MindDetective

MindDetective

Having superpowers makes a person lonely. :(


#48

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

MindDetective said:
Having superpowers makes a person lonely. :(
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But on the bright side, you get to meet hot chicks in spandex...


#49



Jiarn

Norris said:
Theatrical trailer came out today. This flick continues to look more and more promising.
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It really doesn't.....


#50

Norris

Norris

They have released character specific trailers for Havok, Banshee, and Beast.


#51

fade

fade

I was hoping to see Banshee get run over by the Blackbird.


#52

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

This might be uncharitable, but I hate the music in the trailer so much, it completely fails to sell me on the visuals...
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The character-specific ones are better.


#53

Norris

Norris

This is the best character trailer yet:


#54



Philosopher B.

As much as I want to bone Michael Fassbender, that doesn't really entice me. Like, at all.


#55

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'd written this off entirely, but these character-centered trailers make me want to see it.


#56

Gryfter

Gryfter

Still meh.


#57

Steve

Steve

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_first_class/

A few early reviews are in and they are glowing. This could be the best film of the franchise. The more I see/read on this film the more excited I get. The focus on this film are the characters and the powers take a back seat. The best review yet states this is not a good super hero movie, it's a good movie period. Hopefully Hollywood will take note.


#58



Jiarn

Hollywood took note just fine, it was called "Marvel Productions Studio" self-produced films. It's Sony/Fox that can't get the hint.


#59

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

But this is a Fox film that's doing it.


#60

Norris

Norris

Jiarn said:
Hollywood took note just fine, it was called "Marvel Productions Studio" self-produced films. It's Sony/Fox that can't get the hint.
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Except this is a Fox movie, as ecushion said. And I'd say the first two X-Men films were pretty good movies as well.


#61

Tress

Tress

Steve said:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_first_class/

A few early reviews are in and they are glowing. This could be the best film of the franchise. The more I see/read on this film the more excited I get. The focus on this film are the characters and the powers take a back seat. The best review yet states this is not a good super hero movie, it's a good movie period. Hopefully Hollywood will take note.
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This wouldn't be the first time that early reviews come in positive, only to get overtaken by a flood of negative reviews. I'm not saying that is necessarily going to happen, just that early reviews can't be relied upon as accurate predictors.


#62

evilmike

evilmike

The reviews continue to skew favorably. It's 80+ / 8- now.


#63



Overflight

...this just comes to show you that the only way to make a good X-MEN movie is to have Wolverine show up as little as possible (I haven't seen the movie but I heard he has a cameo). Because otherwise it just turns into a Wolverine movie.

FINALLY Hollywood figured this out.


#64

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I can't wait to see this movie and make fun of January Jones ruthlessly


#65



TheBrew

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I can't wait to see this movie and have fun with January Jones fappingly
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That's how I would have phrased it.


#66

Adam

Adammon

Going tonight with the wife. Going out for indian food first so my mutant power can take full effect in the middle of the movie.


#67

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Adammon said:
Going tonight with the wife. Going out for indian food first so my mutant power can take full effect in the middle of the movie.
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Flatulence Boy sounds more like a Legion of Superheroes power.


#68

Adam

Adammon



#69

Steve

Steve

Rotten Tomato audience reviews are coming in at a respectable 88% while critics are at 87%. Hopefully I can catch it this weekend.


#70

klew

klew

I feel it is certainly the best in the franchise. It really felt like the Origins: Magneto film they had proposed, then turned it into more of an ensemble show.


#71

Adam

Adammon

Quick review:

On par with Xmen 2. No one felt embarassed to be in this movie. Fassbender and mcavoy give particularly noteworthy performances. Best Bacon acting since....uhhhh....Tremors? Dude spoke like 5 different languages.

Some directorial missteps and a frightfully embarrassing end shot costume are more than made up for by good humor, lively pace and girls in lingerie, a veritable smorgasbord of seventies sexiness. Memorable moments and a decent score cover up some awkward CGI at times.


#72

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

It was good despite the cringe-worthy stuff like the child actors, wink-wink injokes/name drops, and January Jones(should this be included in child actors?)


#73

Adam

Adammon

Child actors were very good I thought. The best of all the Xmen movies I thought considering the lack of name recognition.


#74

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I don't mean the young First Class-ers, they were fine. I more meant the pre-title-card child actors.


#75

Adam

Adammon

Oh gods yes.


#76

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Seeing it in the morning. Hope all the praise is spot-on.


#77

Adam

Adammon

escushion said:
Seeing it in the morning. Hope all the praise is spot-on.
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Leave before the last 30 seconds of the movie and its pretty fantastic. That last shot is a groaner.


#78

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I didn't hate the last shot as much as everyone else.


#79

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Yeah, I didn't either. It was a little corny, but it worked for me.

Overall, very satisfied, despite a few rough bits.


#80

Vagabond

Vagabond

There's no secret after the end credits.

January Jones was a terrible Emma Frost.

More then a few contiuinity errors, but whatever. The X-Men continuity is a giant error anyhow.

Suddenly, fire all missiles.

Nitpicks on an overall really great movie. Especially given how quickly it was filmed.


#81

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Vagabond said:
More then a few contiuinity errors, but whatever. The X-Men continuity is a giant error anyhow.
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Yeah, one of the "nice" things about about the X-stuff is that if you get a good writer in there, you can let them do whatever they want, and not worry about that stuff. Of course, there's the obvious disadvantage, but fortunately that didn't happen this time.


#82

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'm not sure this movie is even supposed to be in continuity with the other X films though. I'd rather they didn't feel restrained by four other movies.


#83

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

My understanding is that this movie is a preboot


#84

Espy

Espy

So overall people are saying this is pretty good? Worth hitting in the theaters?


#85

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I really liked it despite the usual grumblings about January Jones who was just awful.

Kevin Bacon was great as Shaw.


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frightfully embarrassing end shot costume
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It's like they didn't bother to fit the suit to him. It was so baggy and goofy looking.


#86

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Espy said:
So overall people are saying this is pretty good? Worth hitting in the theaters?
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I had to be cajoled into it, but in the end, I was glad I saw it on the big screen.


#87

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

That was excellent. Really took its time with the characters, and some interesting ways of showing how some of the characters came to be later in the general stories. The score was actually notable, after a long trek of superhero movies generic music to them.

I really wanted the bad guys to die in this case. In the current-gen X-Men films Magneto's POV is easy to sympathize with despite what he does. The crew here were just so smug, in their ratty suits, I wanted them to get torn apart.


#88

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Also, that cameo was hysterical


#89



Wasabi Poptart

Saw it last night. It was good, but there were things that irked me.
Like how Mystique was pretty useless. She did nothing and added nothing to the movie IMO.


#90



Chibibar

Wasabi Poptart said:
Saw it last night. It was good, but there were things that irked me.
Like how Mystique was pretty useless. She did nothing and added nothing to the movie IMO.
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We saw it and thought it was pretty good.
Mystique was interesting. It was a character development between from Xavair to Magneto. I thought it was interesting. It was better than I thought it would be (thinking it would be bad) I was surprise with Kevin Bacon as Shaw. He did a good job IMO) I think this just sets a whole new story line/reboot and just forget the others and start a new stories.


#91

Far

Far

I think if they had saved the first class stuff, ie gathering and ultimately training the younger mutants, until the next movie it would have been a much better film. I enjoyed it, and it was certainly better than the last two X-men movies but felt it got pretty cheesy once the younger kids were introduced. Fassbender just steals the show early on and then is almost pushed to the wayside once the kiddies show up.

Ultimately I feel if they had axed the younger kids all together and just stuck with a story, even nearly the same story, that involved just Xavier, Magneto, Mystique and maybe Beast, as well as the Brotherhood, it could have been a much tighter movie. Also "killing" Darwin, the recruit with arguably the most interesting power, five minutes after introducing him probably did much to take my interest away from them as a group. I really enjoyed the first half of the movie or so, and get that they were attempting to place Charles in that leader role but felt it could have been done with out the needless training and jogging. Exploring the relationship between leaders of opposing sides of the mutant struggle, for me, would have put this reboot on par with Batman Begins as a refresher to the series. As it stands I will watch the next movie,and will no doubt enjoy it, but I guess I was just hoping for something a bit different based on the reviews.


#92

evilmike

evilmike

Adammon said:
Leave before the last 30 seconds of the movie and its pretty fantastic. That last shot is a groaner.
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Could be worse I suppose.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vomaria/5581841723/sizes/o/in/photostream/


#93

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

This topic's title should change.


#94

fade

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evilmike said:
Could be worse I suppose.
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That was awesome.


#95



Jiarn

I take everything I said back. Singer did an amazing job. I was stunned.
Great film, I'll be adding it to my X-Men 1&2 collection.


#96

Norris

Norris

Jiarn said:
I take everything I said back. Singer did an amazing job. I was stunned.
Great film, I'll be adding it to my X-Men 1&2 collection.
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Singer produced, Matthew Vaughn co-wrote and co-directed.


#97

Steve

Steve

Just a couple of questions:
Since we never saw Darwin die I was wondering if he'd come back as Sunspot. His mutant ability is to adapt and survive and right before he became ash he had the same characteristics as Sunspot. Also, why didn't young Erik kill Shaw when he offed the two Nazi soldiers? He had a room full of weapons next door.


#98

Adam

Adammon

Steve said:
Just a couple of questions:
Since we never saw Darwin die I was wondering if he'd come back as Sunspot. His mutant ability is to adapt and survive and right before he became ash he had the same characteristics as Sunspot. Also, why didn't young Erik kill Shaw when he offed the two Nazi soldiers? He had a room full of weapons next door.
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Darwin dies in the comics in similar circumstances but survives as a being of pure energy, which I would gather is the flash of light that occurred when he 'exploded'. I half expected him to come back before the end of the movie knowing that.


#99

Gusto

Gusto

Adammon said:
Darwin dies in the comics in similar circumstances but survives as a being of pure energy, which I would gather is the flash of light that occurred when he 'exploded'. I half expected him to come back before the end of the movie knowing that.
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This is supposed to be a trilogy, apparently, so we could see him return STILL. We all know what happened with the Phoenix.


#100

@Li3n

@Li3n

Steve said:
Also, why didn't young Erik kill Shaw when he offed the two Nazi soldiers? He had a room full of weapons next door.
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Wait, i haven't seen it yet, but if Shaw's power is like in the comic hitting him should just make him stronger...


#101



Jiarn

@Li3n said:
Wait, i haven't seen it yet, but if Shaw's power is like in the comic hitting him should just make him stronger...
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Erik had no idea that Shaw had powers at the time.


#102

@Li3n

@Li3n

Then they missed an awesome opportunity of showing off his power to those in the know...


#103

Adam

Adammon

@Li3n said:
Then they missed an awesome opportunity of showing off his power to those in the know...
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Who, Shaw? I think his power was used pretty....constantly.


#104

Far

Far

Erik isn't really able to control his powers at that point. Not in order to manipulate an object at will anyway. With the soldiers, I saw it less as a directed attack and more his anger over what had just happened causing it.


#105

Norris

Norris

Steve said:
Just a couple of questions:
Also, why didn't young Erik kill Shaw when he offed the two Nazi soldiers? He had a room full of weapons next door.
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Shaw wasn't wearing anything like a convenient metal helmet. He was in a kind of blind and unfocused rage at that moment - crushing whatever he could get his metaphorical hands on, throwing stuff around, but with no idea how to direct it more precisely.


#106

@Li3n

@Li3n

Adammon said:
Who, Shaw? I think his power was used pretty....constantly.
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Well i was thinking of it being more of a thing for ppl that know x-men lore, and everyone else would be like "no way he could survive that" and you could chuckle at their lack of knowledge...

Seeing it tonight btw.


#107

@Li3n

@Li3n

Yeah, that was a missed opportunity to show off his power just so they could have him play with a grenade...

Also, why didn't anyone say they gave him Bishop's power... kinda disappointing imo, because if they just let him have super-strength and an nigh invulnerability to dmg it would have made it more interesting... especially since Erik couldn't hurt him either way.

Aslo, anyone else disappointed by the way
Mags killed him... i would have much preferred if he just shoved the coin down his throat, leaving him to choke to death... with Mags watching him slowly expire...


#108

Adam

Adammon

@Li3n said:
Yeah, that was a missed opportunity to show off his power just so they could have him play with a grenade...

Also, why didn't anyone say they gave him Bishop's power... kinda disappointing imo, because if they just let him have super-strength and an nigh invulnerability to dmg it would have made it more interesting...

Aslo, anyone else disappointed by the way
Mags killed him... i would have much preferred if he just shoved the coin down his throat, leaving him to choke to death... with Mags watching him slowly expire...
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That would make more sense. The coin shouldn't have done what it did if it was the actual Sebastian Shaw power. At any rate, Kevin Bacon did a surprisingly good job.


#109

@Li3n

@Li3n

Bishop's power is also passive as i recall...
i guess in the film they just wanted us to assume Shaw had to be using it on purpose... which was kinda lame because it means Charles allowed him to get murdered.


#110



Jiarn

He didn't "allow him", he wanted to truly believe his friend would not "go there".
Which is also why he didn't stop the military from firing the missles. He believed they were better than that till it was too late


#111

@Li3n

@Li3n

Jiarn said:
He didn't "allow him", he wanted to truly believe his friend would not "go there".
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Pretty sure once it started penetrating skin at a snail's pace it was pretty obvious what his choice was...


#112



Jiarn

Or they were showing it in slow motion.


#113

Adam

Adammon

Jiarn said:
Or they were showing it in slow motion.
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I like to think it was done slowly just to torture the poor bastard.

An interesting characterization that came out of this movie: Professor X is kind of a naive douche. Which is actually more in line with the comics than the St Xavier that Singer's original movies portrayed him as.


#114

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

He did it slowly so it would actually damage him.


#115



Chibibar

sixpackshaker said:
He did it slowly so it would actually damage him.
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The problem is that Prof X can't see Erik doing what he is doing. X can't stop the coin and he can't stop Erik (with the helmet on) Making time go "normal" would end up killing Erik (possible) so it is the lesser of two evil. As for the missiles, once fired, X is powerless to control it (well this can be debatable since it depends how much power he can output to really stop all those missiles) that is just my opinion and limited X-Men knowledge :)


#116

Adam

Adammon

I really liked the way they handled the rockets after they were fired. Each time Magneto lost his concentration, some of them dropped off - a war of attrition so to speak.

The more I think about the movie, the more I'm impressed by it. Unlike The Last Stand, it just seems like they actually tried this time around.


#117

@Li3n

@Li3n

Jiarn said:
Or they were showing it in slow motion.
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Then his counting would have not been heard in real time...

Chibibar said:
The problem is that Prof X can't see Erik doing what he is doing.
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Considering that he felt it happening i'll assume he at least knew enough to make an informed choice...

sixpackshaker said:
He did it slowly so it would actually damage him.
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Good point... i though about that too, but if so i would have preferred a little bit of resistance at the start, even very slow, it's still plenty of kinetic energy... but the whole scene was kinda weaker CGI then the rest imo...


#118

Norris

Norris

Vis-a-vis Charles' choice at the end:
He was in Shaw's mind. He likely knew how much power Shaw had absorbed and how he planned to use it. He also could probably tell just how easily Shaw could kill Erik (the only reason he wasn't dead already was because Shaw liked him). He doesn't want Erik to be killed, there's no way his team can stand against Shaw and the Hellfire club if he gets the helmet back, Shaw has the power on hand to start a nuclear war, and more than one way to do so. Charles is kind of between a rock and a hard place - free Shaw, get Erik killed, and possibly fail to avert nuclear war or let Erik kill Shaw and go down a dark road. The latter is less immediately risky, hence choosing it.


#119

@Li3n

@Li3n

Yes, he still held him down while he was murdered slowly...

But really, his mind couldn't work faster then Shaw's hands taking the helmet... doubtful. And not being able to even make Shaw move etc... those type of things always annoy me...


#120

bhamv3

bhamv3

I gathered from the film that Xavier's not quite fully developed his powers yet either. He's not yet the world's most telepath, the uber-psychic we know he later becomes.


#121

@Li3n

@Li3n

And yet he still could freeze an entire building full of CIA agents... plot driven power levels ftl.


#122

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Watched today and freaking loved it. Biggest surprise: Xavier and Mystique brother-sister relationship, if anyone had told me that before the film I would say "fuck those idiot writters", but once on screen I felt it was interesting dinamic. That said, how the fuck did Charles explained her to his parents? did he brainwashed them for ten years????


#123



Jiarn

From the sound of it, his parents weren't around much.


#124

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

^But that is a kid! A entire mini-human! Well Tumblr to express my thoughts: http://stargleeklantern.tumblr.com/post/6711066136/kid-raven-is-adorable-kid-charles-is-creepy


#125

@Li3n

@Li3n

Green_Lantern said:
That said, how the fuck did Charles explained her to his parents? did he brainwashed them for ten years????
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No, he just brainwashed them once... like duh.


#126



Chibibar

just implant a memory that makes them think she is their kid :)


#127

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Chibibar said:
just implant a memory that makes them think she is their kid :)
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NOT NICE.


#128

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Green_Lantern said:
NOT NICE.
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He's a Christ figure later; he can get away with it.

:cool:


#129

Jay

Jay

Just watched it, my feedback.

- I loved it. Great movie and great acting by the main cast except one.

- Mr. Bacon's German was so bad I though he was originally playing a mentally impaired man. Still liked his rendition of Shaw.

- Great buildup to the story, the score was very good, especially in the final sequences. Mystique was built up very well along with Beast during his "error".

- The Wolverine cameo had me in a laughing fit. Best deployment of the PG-13 single-use eff-bomb I have ever seen.

- I officially prefer the 2nd gen x-men to the first... give me a non-emo Rogue and a sly Gambit and Jay would be pleased.

- Magneto's powers were awesome.

- "What is that sound?" So that's the sound a CIA agent makes after being dropped from 200 feet into the air to his death? Goddamn, I want to be that guy and destroy an entire civilization that way.

- I'd tap the shit out of January Jones.... fucken amazing to look at, had the perfect look but every time she opened her mouth and tried to act.... for fuck's sake. HORRIBLE


#130

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

the movie in a nut shell http://stargleeklantern.tumblr.com/post/6919579305/noway-srsly-belluccis-x-men-first-class

Well, seriously, I can't believed I didn't noticed the adoption subtext xP


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