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No Bad Guys Named Dave.

Oct 23, 2014#1

Dave

Someone pointed out to me today that there are no bad guys in movie, TV, or literature named Dave. How about you? You have a name that is or can be used as a villain?

Oct 23, 2014#2

Ravenpoe

Dave said:
Someone pointed out to me today that there are no bad guys in movie, TV, or literature named Dave. How about you? You have a name that is or can be used as a villain?

That someone was wrong.

Oct 23, 2014#3

Chad Sexington

What about David Xanatos?[DOUBLEPOST=1414086446,1414086411][/DOUBLEPOST]Goddammit Poe[DOUBLEPOST=1414086508][/DOUBLEPOST]I don't know any villains named Leigh (or Chad, but I would not be able to take a villain named Chad seriously, which may explain itself).

Oct 23, 2014#4

WasabiPoptart

I can't think of any villain named Lisa in a movie. Of course, there's this:

Oct 23, 2014#5

Dave

A Gargoyles bad guy? Seriously, I had to look him up. He hardly counts.

Oct 23, 2014#6

fade

Well. I guess if you don't count one of the most popular American action cartoons of all time, and a villain so popular people still won't shut up about him. One of the biggest tropes on TVtropes is named after his signature "I knew this was going to happen all along" bit.

Oct 23, 2014#7

Dave

Gargoyles was that popular?

Oct 23, 2014#8

Ravenpoe

Dave said:
Gargoyles was that popular?

Yes. And it was really, really, really good.

Oct 23, 2014#9

Dave

Huh. I guess my age shows when it comes to that show then. I had no idea it was popular.

Oct 23, 2014#10

Adam

Davy Jones?

Oct 23, 2014#11

Ravenpoe

Oct 23, 2014#12

GasBandit

http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/D.A.V.E.[DOUBLEPOST=1414088657,1414088556][/DOUBLEPOST]Also you might count Davey Jones from POTC.

Oct 23, 2014#13

PatrThom

I didn't see enough Gargoyles cartoons as a kid. They came around about the sunset of my ability to watch cartoons.
Also, I'm not so sure about villain, exactly.

--Patrick

Oct 23, 2014#14

Fun Size

Adam said:
Davy Jones?

Oct 23, 2014#15

Bowielee

Dave said:
Huh. I guess my age shows when it comes to that show then. I had no idea it was popular.

Whelp, that's it. Dave officially has to turn in his geek card.

Oct 23, 2014#16

Dave

It came out in 1994. I was married, had 2 kids, was going to school, and working two jobs. Forgive me if I didn't watch a cartoon. :pwn:

Oct 23, 2014#17

figmentPez

The head vampire in The Lost Boys was named David (played by Kiefer Sutherland)[DOUBLEPOST=1414090018,1414089844][/DOUBLEPOST]

Dave said:
You have a name that is or can be used as a villain?

Not many bad guys named Bruce. Most guys named Bruce are pretty awesome.

Oct 23, 2014#18

mikerc

David Banner from the 2003 Hulk film. Which also ties into awesome Bruce's for @figmentPez

Oct 23, 2014#19

Dave

He wasn't a bad guy! He was the hero!

Oct 23, 2014#20

AshburnerX

Dave said:
Huh. I guess my age shows when it comes to that show then. I had no idea it was popular.

It's also supposedly getting a film reboot from Disney some time in the next few years, now that they know it can pay to be risky.

Oct 23, 2014#21

Celt Z

What about David Lo Pan?

Oct 23, 2014#22

Dave

Wow! Now there's a reference!

Oct 23, 2014#23

filmfanatic

Well...if you want to nitpick, the statement was about villains named Dave, not David. I know it is a nitpick, but there is something to be said for the meaning given between naming someone the more casual Dave or the more formal David.

Oct 23, 2014#24

Celt Z

filmfanatic said:
Well...if you want to nitpick, the statement was about villains named Dave, not David. I know it is a nitpick, but there is something to be said for the meaning given between naming someone the more casual Dave or the more formal David.

Actually, Jack Burton does call Lo Pan "Dave" at one point, so

(EDIT: I double-checked: Jack calls him Dave a couple of times, so my point still stands! )

Oct 23, 2014#25

evilmike

Celt Z said:
Actually, Jack Burton does call Lo Pan "Dave" at one point, so

Well, we knew it was only a matter of time, Celt Z has won the internet.

Oct 23, 2014#26

fade

You know what old Jack Burton says at a time like this?

Oct 23, 2014#27

Celt Z

"Are you crazy? Is that your problem?"[DOUBLEPOST=1414093182,1414092979][/DOUBLEPOST]

evilmike said:
Well, we knew it was only a matter of time, Celt Z has won the internet.

I want that on my tombstone.

Oct 23, 2014#28

Chad Sexington

I didn't even watch Gargoyles and it took me less than a second for the name to come to mind.

Oct 23, 2014#29

GasBandit

I can't believe I forgot David Lo Pan. I watched that movie less than a month ago.

Oct 23, 2014#30

CynicismKills

I'm trying to think of a badguy named Chris. Coming up blank.

Oct 23, 2014#31

Celt Z

CynicismKills said:
I'm trying to think of a badguy named Chris. Coming up blank.

I needed a little help with this, but here you go.

Incidentally, I couldn't find any villains with my name (well, one came close, but it's spelled differently and short for Evelyn), but I did find out there's a game called Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective where one of the main characters is a redhead with the less-common, shared spelling of my name. Weird.

Oct 23, 2014#32

CynicismKills

Ew.

Oct 23, 2014#33

Terrik

What about a Steve?

Oct 23, 2014#34

GasBandit

Do we count wrestler "heels" as villains?

Oct 23, 2014#35

Celt Z

You know, you guys could just Google these things yourselves.

Oct 23, 2014#36

Dave

Terrik said:
What about a Steve?

http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Steve_(Pizza_Head)

Oct 23, 2014#37

CynicismKills

Terrik said:
What about a Steve?

Captain America has kind of been a dick in the comics lately now that he's an old man, so there's that, I guess?

Oct 23, 2014#38

Dave

Damn! Ninja'd!

Oct 23, 2014#39

CynicismKills

Celt Z said:
You know, you guys could just Google these things yourselves.

But then what would you do today?

Oct 23, 2014#40

fade

I've got an awesome villain for my first name.

Oct 23, 2014#41

Celt Z

Dave said:
Damn! Ninja'd!

Muhahaha!

Oct 23, 2014#42

SpecialKO

fade said:
I've got an awesome villain for my first name.

I didn't know your first name was Hannibal....

Oct 23, 2014#43

PatrThom

fade said:
I've got an awesome villain for my first name.

Your first name is Mxyzptlk? That is awesome.

--Patrick

Oct 23, 2014#44

GasBandit

There's a villain or two with my first name - though they're fairly lame. But there's also some real-world douchenozzles who share it. And a... niche clothing company, you might say.

Oct 23, 2014#45

HCGLNS

Does a mass murdering psychopath named David Berkowitz qualify?

Oct 23, 2014#46

Bowielee

Any villains with my first name are likely to be inbred hillbillies....

Oct 23, 2014#47

Adam

Adam's a good villain name.

Black Adam
Adam Warlock
Adam Lambert
Adam Sandler

Oct 23, 2014#48

Gusto

For me:

Also apparently:

[DOUBLEPOST=1414105713,1414105637][/DOUBLEPOST]Also I don't know if I should count Kevin Spacey, so I won't.

Oct 23, 2014#49

AshburnerX

Meh... Kevin Levin (the animated guy, from Ben 10) is more of an anti-hero at this point.

Oct 23, 2014#50

ThatNickGuy

Huh. I'm drawing a blank on villains called Nick. Unless you count stories about an evil Santa Claus.

Oct 23, 2014#51

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
Huh. I'm drawing a blank on villains called Nick. Unless you count stories about an evil Santa Claus.

Nick Nack (you could be forgiven for thinking there were K's at the beginning of both names) in Man With the Golden Gun. Played by Herve Villechaize (Eh boss, de plane, de plane)[DOUBLEPOST=1414106852,1414106622][/DOUBLEPOST]Also apparently the movie Double Jeopardy (1999) had a villain named Nicholas.

http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Nicholas_Parsons

Oct 23, 2014#52

WasabiPoptart

Ninja'd!

Oct 23, 2014#53

Bowielee

A cursory search for Dale as a villain name yields zero results.

Oct 23, 2014#54

WasabiPoptart

Ooh! I found Lisa Sheridan from a 2009 movie called Obsessed. She's portrayed by Ali Larter.

Oct 23, 2014#55

Celt Z

Bowielee said:
A cursory search for Dale as a villain name yields zero results.

In the back of my head, I swear I can recall some dialogue with a bad guy named Dale, but I can't remember from what. For all I know, it could have been a one-episode jerk from a tv series. This is going to bug me!

Oct 23, 2014#56

Celt Z

GasBandit said:
I can't believe I forgot David Lo Pan. I watched that movie less than a month ago.

I loved this parody, especially because they got James Hong appear, and how they list him in the credits.

Oct 23, 2014#57

PatrThom

Celt Z said:
In the back of my head, I swear I can recall some dialogue with a bad guy named Dale, but I can't remember from what. For all I know, it could have been a one-episode jerk from a tv series. This is going to bug me!

Sure you're not thinking of Nale?

--Patrick

Oct 23, 2014#58

Bowielee

PatrThom said:
Sure you're not thinking of Nale?

--Patrick

NAAAALE....

Oct 23, 2014#59

Celt Z

PatrThom said:
Sure you're not thinking of Nale?

--Patrick

Nah, definitely Dale, but I think it was a minor character...

EDIT: Sorry, I should say Not Nale.

Oct 23, 2014#60

bhamv3

Regarding Dave, I am reminded of this column by Dave Barry, who was bitter about Phillip Morris naming a cigarette line "Dave's".

http://www.miamiherald.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/dave-barry/article1937841.html

"The message is that "Dave's" is a folksy brand of cigarette, produced by a down-to-earth, tractor-driving guy named "Dave" for ordinary people who work hard and make an honest living, at least until they start coughing up big folksy chunks of trachea."

[DOUBLEPOST=1414116381,1414116220][/DOUBLEPOST]

Celt Z said:
I needed a little help with this, but here you go.

Incidentally, I couldn't find any villains with my name (well, one came close, but it's spelled differently and short for Evelyn), but I did find out there's a game called Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective where one of the main characters is a redhead with the less-common, shared spelling of my name. Weird.

I know a girl in real life called Evelyn. Beautiful girl, very intelligent and witty, and enjoying a very successful career so far. She's also pure evil. I call her Evilyn. Seriously, she's evil. But in that dark, seductive, you-wouldn't-really-believe-me-capable-of-doing-that type of way.

Ok, I exaggerate, she's not pure evil. She's just a bit evil. Or moderately evil. Maybe just very evil on special occasions.

Point is... Evilyn. Yeah.

Oct 23, 2014#61

Ravenpoe

There's also http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Republic_of_Dave

Oct 23, 2014#62

bhamv3

Ravenpoe said:
There's also http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Republic_of_Dave

Better than the Kingdom of Tom.

Oct 23, 2014#63

Bowielee

Oct 23, 2014#64

figmentPez

ThatNickGuy said:
Huh. I'm drawing a blank on villains called Nick. Unless you count stories about an evil Santa Claus.

--
Okay, I'll let you have a more manly villain:

Nick Virago from Grim Fandango

Oct 24, 2014#65

doomdragon6

I can't think of any villains named Bryan. And the villain wiki pulled up two very minor characters who barely count as villains.

Bryan's just not an intimidating name.

Oct 24, 2014#66

bhamv3

doomdragon6 said:
Bryan's just not an intimidating name.

Oct 24, 2014#67

DarkAudit

doomdragon6 said:
I can't think of any villains named Bryan. And the villain wiki pulled up two very minor characters who barely count as villains.

Bryan's just not an intimidating name.

That's 'cause you're spelling it wrong.

Oct 24, 2014#68

LittleSin

I doubt there are any villains named Holly out there. I could go with the second half of my name and get Elizabeth Bathory though!

Oct 24, 2014#69

Celt Z

Well, there's Holly Summers in No More Heroes, or depending on how you want to look at it, Holly Would in Cool World. You could say she's a femme fatale, but that could be considered a villain. Her whole reason d'etre was "it's all about what I want and screw how it hurts anyone else!".

Oct 24, 2014#70

LittleSin

Celt Z said:
Well, there's Holly Summers in No More Heroes, or depending on how you want to look at it, Holly Would in Cool World. You could say she's a femme fatale, but that could be considered a villain. Her whole reason d'etre was "it's all about what I want and screw how it hurts anyone else!".

Man, It has been so long since I saw Cool World. I saw it when I was a kid. My parents thought it would be just as good as Roger Rabbit. They were so, so wrong.

That was the first time the realized that some cartoons aren't for kids.

Oct 24, 2014#71

GasBandit

LittleSin said:
I doubt there are any villains named Holly out there. I could go with the second half of my name and get Elizabeth Bathory though!

Heh, my first though was John McClane's ex wife, but I guess that she's not TECHNICALLY a villain.

Celt Z said:
"it's all about what I want and screw how it hurts anyone else!".

Rowr. Er, anyway, yeah Holli Would is definitely Cool World's villain. The screwing was just a means to an end - she only got hot and bothered for 'noids because she was obsessed with becoming one.

But yeah.

LittleSin said:
Man, It has been so long since I saw Cool World. I saw it when I was a kid. My parents thought it would be just as good as Roger Rabbit. They were so, so wrong.

That was the first time the realized that some cartoons aren't for kids.

HEY KIDS

Oct 24, 2014#72

Bowielee

Now that I'm an adult, I should revisit Cool World. I haven't seen it since I was a teenager, and I hated it then.

I know a lot of people hate Ralph Bakshi and think that rotoscoping is lazy, but I just love a lot of his work, particularly American Pop.

Oct 24, 2014#73

GasBandit

Bowielee said:
Now that I'm an adult, I should revisit Cool World. I haven't seen it since I was a teenager, and I hated it then.

I know a lot of people hate Ralph Bakshi and think that rotoscoping is lazy, but I just love a lot of his work, particularly American Pop.

It's still not very good.

Oct 24, 2014#74

filmfanatic

GasBandit said:
It's still not very good.

Yeah, it's a pretty bad film and not what Ralph Bakshi originally envisioned. His original idea was a horror film where a human man and cartoon woman have sex, then give birth to a half-human/half-toon being who hates its existence and wants to kill them.

Oct 24, 2014#75

Emrys

Bowielee said:
Now that I'm an adult, I should revisit Cool World. I haven't seen it since I was a teenager, and I hated it then.

I know a lot of people hate Ralph Bakshi and think that rotoscoping is lazy, but I just love a lot of his work, particularly American Pop.

American Pop was excellent.

Oct 24, 2014#76

Bowielee

filmfanatic said:
Yeah, it's a pretty bad film and not what Ralph Bakshi originally envisioned. His original idea was a horror film where a human man and cartoon woman have sex, then give birth to a half-human/half-toon being who hates its existence and wants to kill them.

I would watch the hell out of that.