North Korea creates nuclear fusion

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So that's where my unicorns got to... i swear, they always find a way to get out of their pens and go to the craziest place.
 

Dave

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I hope it's true. I don't care who comes up with it as long as it happens. We'd bid a fond farewell to fossil fuel dependencies.
 
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Chibibar

The theories are all there (to my VERY LIMITED) knowledge of this stuff. It is the application that we (the people in general) haven't discover it yet.

It would be cool if they did discover it.
 
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Chazwozel

The theories are all there (to my VERY LIMITED) knowledge of this stuff. It is the application that we (the people in general) haven't discover it yet.

It would be cool if they did discover it.

It's been done. Nuclear fusion is perfectly containable and possible in a laboratory. The only problem we currently have is that it takes a shit ton more energy for containment and keep it sustainable than it puts out.

I hope Kim Jong realizes that if his claims were true that the U.S. and other countries would most likely invade and take their technology by force if negotiations failed for it.
 
I hope Kim Jong realizes that if his claims were true that the U.S. and other countries would most likely invade and take their technology by force if negotiations failed for it.
I'm actually pretty sure that if it was for real the other countries invading is the first thing we'd be hearing about...
 
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Chazwozel

I hope Kim Jong realizes that if his claims were true that the U.S. and other countries would most likely invade and take their technology by force if negotiations failed for it.
I'm actually pretty sure that if it was for real the other countries invading is the first thing we'd be hearing about...[/QUOTE]

China would be like your older brother taking your new skateboard when your parents aren't looking. They'd be all over that shit.
 
I hope Kim Jong realizes that if his claims were true that the U.S. and other countries would most likely invade and take their technology by force if negotiations failed for it.
I'm actually pretty sure that if it was for real the other countries invading is the first thing we'd be hearing about...[/QUOTE]

China would be like your older brother taking your new skateboard when your parents aren't looking. They'd be all over that shit.[/QUOTE]

little brothers ain't no better, the thieving bastards...
 

GasBandit

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Yeah really. One time my little brother went into my room, ate all my candy, and left all the wrappers all over my floor and bed. When confronted, he indignantly justified his actions with "because I never had that kind of candy before!"

The really outrageous thing is my parents let him off the hook for it, when I'd bought the candy with my own allowance... and I had to clean up the wrappers myself, too.

Little brothers deserve every beating they get.
 

Dave

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My brother had been out of high school for about 4 years (dropped out) and my parents told him he could drive MY car (which I paid for and paid insurance on) to a job interview. On the way to school my brother decided that I wasn't driving fast enough (the speed limit at the time was 55 all over) and that I was doing the speed limit so he'd be late. He proceeded to rip my rearview mirror off the windshield, snap it in half and then throw it out the window. Then he thought it would be a good idea to backhand the driver in the face.

I stopped the car and threw the keys on top of a building. When he started to come around the car I got back in, started it with the spare set I always carried around and left him there.

*I* got in trouble for making him miss his interview.

Big brothers suck FAR worse than little brothers.
 
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Chazwozel

My brother had been out of high school for about 4 years (dropped out) and my parents told him he could drive MY car (which I paid for and paid insurance on) to a job interview. On the way to school my brother decided that I wasn't driving fast enough (the speed limit at the time was 55 all over) and that I was doing the speed limit so he'd be late. He proceeded to rip my rearview mirror off the windshield, snap it in half and then throw it out the window. Then he thought it would be a good idea to backhand the driver in the face.

I stopped the car and threw the keys on top of a building. When he started to come around the car I got back in, started it with the spare set I always carried around and left him there.

*I* got in trouble for making him miss his interview.

Big brothers suck FAR worse than little brothers.
Yeah, but when they're dead, you really miss em...

Then again, I always got along with my brother. For the most part. Aw hell, I was the tag-a-long little brother! For some reason Dave, the way you always describe your bro, he reminds me of Henry Dean from Stephen King's Black Tower series.
 
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Chibibar

I get along with my sister since we grew up in pretty harsh environment when we were kids. All we had was us. I never understood the "fights" that other siblings get. I don't mean the "play fight" I mean some serious mess up fights, but I guess that is how some people grew up.

My wife's brothers fits those roles. One is a total loser but the other is shaping up now since he is a father. The "loser" lets his temper get the best of him and keep losing jobs and yet he blames everyone else.... yeesh.
 
Maybe the DPRK has succeeded in copying that 17 year-old's experiment.
Finally! Eight F*'n posts before SOMEONE picks up on the 17 year old! Come on! That's a huge deal right there!

of course it's entirely possible I'm just on that many peoples ignore lists and they never even saw my post....
 
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Chibibar

Maybe the DPRK has succeeded in copying that 17 year-old's experiment.
Finally! Eight F*'n posts before SOMEONE picks up on the 17 year old! Come on! That's a huge deal right there!

of course it's entirely possible I'm just on that many peoples ignore lists and they never even saw my post....[/QUOTE]

hehe I don't have anyone ignore. I figure that was one of those "fake" news site like The Onion.
 
Maybe the DPRK has succeeded in copying that 17 year-old's experiment.
Finally! Eight F*'n posts before SOMEONE picks up on the 17 year old! Come on! That's a huge deal right there!

of course it's entirely possible I'm just on that many peoples ignore lists and they never even saw my post....[/QUOTE]

hehe I don't have anyone ignore. I figure that was one of those "fake" news site like The Onion.[/QUOTE]

That's why I included a Google link to the kid who had done it so that people could quickly look and see it was in fact legit. Hell, the selected Quote even says "No joke."
 
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Chibibar

If he did it and it was that small, why are we still using fossil fuel?
 
Because the problem with his design is still the same as with the larger designs Korea and everywhere else are still trying to make.

Fusion is attainable, but not sustainable. The energy input required to even get a tiny spark is multitudes greater than the energy we get out of it.

But what the student did is still along the same lines as Korea is boasting as their great strides, yet vastly more impressive in my mind as it was done with second hand parts in a basement by a kid and the internet
 
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Chibibar

Because the problem with his design is still the same as with the larger designs Korea and everywhere else are still trying to make.

Fusion is attainable, but not sustainable. The energy input required to even get a tiny spark is multitudes greater than the energy we get out of it.

But what the student did is still along the same lines as Korea is boasting as their great strides, yet vastly more impressive in my mind as it was done with second hand parts in a basement by a kid and the internet
Ah.. to me, a "success" in Nuclear fusion would be creating AND containing.
 
Then by your definition both the kid and the Koreas, and a couple other projects out there have all had success in nuclear fusion because they've all created & contained it.

The problem comes with sustained fusion. Like the sun. Fusion itself, the process by which multiple atomic nuclei join together to form a single heavier nucleus, is quite possible and being done for a long time. But a sustained reaction like exhibited by the sun... that we don't have.
 
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Chibibar

Then by your definition both the kid and the Koreas, and a couple other projects out there have all had success in nuclear fusion because they've all created & contained it.

The problem comes with sustained fusion. Like the sun. Fusion itself, the process by which multiple atomic nuclei join together to form a single heavier nucleus, is quite possible and being done for a long time. But a sustained reaction like exhibited by the sun... that we don't have.
ok.. I'll redefine my definition. :)

Create and sustain it :) (CHEAPLY!)

my poor English word: In my head. I think contain = sustained in terms of Fusion like a portable ball of fire.
 
Because the problem with his design is still the same as with the larger designs Korea and everywhere else are still trying to make.

Fusion is attainable, but not sustainable. The energy input required to even get a tiny spark is multitudes greater than the energy we get out of it.

But what the student did is still along the same lines as Korea is boasting as their great strides, yet vastly more impressive in my mind as it was done with second hand parts in a basement by a kid and the internet
The Fat Man will arise.
 
Then by your definition both the kid and the Koreas, and a couple other projects out there have all had success in nuclear fusion because they've all created & contained it.

The problem comes with sustained fusion. Like the sun. Fusion itself, the process by which multiple atomic nuclei join together to form a single heavier nucleus, is quite possible and being done for a long time. But a sustained reaction like exhibited by the sun... that we don't have.
yep. Cold fusion has been promised and claimed several times, every single time it has been proven to be a hoax and un-replaceable. While we know it is possible (look at the sun) I sincerely doubt we will ever see man made cold fusion in our lifetimes.
 
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Chazwozel

Then by your definition both the kid and the Koreas, and a couple other projects out there have all had success in nuclear fusion because they've all created & contained it.

The problem comes with sustained fusion. Like the sun. Fusion itself, the process by which multiple atomic nuclei join together to form a single heavier nucleus, is quite possible and being done for a long time. But a sustained reaction like exhibited by the sun... that we don't have.
ok.. I'll redefine my definition. :)

Create and sustain it :) (CHEAPLY!)

my poor English word: In my head. I think contain = sustained in terms of Fusion like a portable ball of fire.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty much every engineers dream right there.
 
gez that makes the CO2 laser I made for my science faire seem horribly easy.

I'm thinking of making one to see if I can.
http://www.fusor.net/

There ya go. Your gateway to all the information you could need including success stories from others and plans.

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Create and sustain it :) (CHEAPLY!)
That's pretty much every engineers dream right there.[/QUOTE]

Not every engineer. Don't get me wrong, would be great, but I have other plans.
 
Then by your definition both the kid and the Koreas, and a couple other projects out there have all had success in nuclear fusion because they've all created & contained it.

The problem comes with sustained fusion. Like the sun. Fusion itself, the process by which multiple atomic nuclei join together to form a single heavier nucleus, is quite possible and being done for a long time. But a sustained reaction like exhibited by the sun... that we don't have.
yep. Cold fusion has been promised and claimed several times, every single time it has been proven to be a hoax and un-replaceable. While we know it is possible (look at the sun) I sincerely doubt we will ever see man made cold fusion in our lifetimes.[/QUOTE]
The Sun is hot fusion. Cold fusion is impossible or near that, and our hope should not lie there, but in overcoming the technical difficulties of a sustained hot fusion.
 
Then by your definition both the kid and the Koreas, and a couple other projects out there have all had success in nuclear fusion because they've all created & contained it.

The problem comes with sustained fusion. Like the sun. Fusion itself, the process by which multiple atomic nuclei join together to form a single heavier nucleus, is quite possible and being done for a long time. But a sustained reaction like exhibited by the sun... that we don't have.
yep. Cold fusion has been promised and claimed several times, every single time it has been proven to be a hoax and un-replaceable. While we know it is possible (look at the sun) I sincerely doubt we will ever see man made cold fusion in our lifetimes.[/QUOTE]
The Sun is hot fusion. Cold fusion is impossible or near that, and our hope should not lie there, but in overcoming the technical difficulties of a sustained hot fusion.[/QUOTE]

Ah, my mistake. Good to know.
 
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Chazwozel

Fusion is easy to attain and sustain. You need just need shit-ton of hydrogen and let it condense under its own gravity. Dumbass CERN douchebags...
 
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