[News] Obama: "I think same sex couples should be able to get married"

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President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.
In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World News with Diane Sawyer.”

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. But he said he’s confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters’ comfort with the concept.

“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president continued. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know, believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”

Roberts asked the president if First Lady Michelle Obama was involved in this decision. Obama said she was, and he talked specifically about his own faith in responding.

“This is something that, you know, we’ve talked about over the years and she, you know, she feels the same way, she feels the same way that I do. And that is that, in the end the values that I care most deeply about and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people and, you know, I, you know, we are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it’s also the Golden Rule, you know, treat others the way you would want to be treated. And I think that’s what we try to impart to our kids and that’s what motivates me as president and I figure the most consistent I can be in being true to those precepts, the better I’ll be as a as a dad and a husband and hopefully the better I’ll be as president.”

Previously, Obama has moved in the direction of supporting same-sex marriage but has consistently stopped short of outright backing it. Instead, he’s voiced support for civil unions for gay and lesbian couples that provide the rights and benefits enjoyed by married couples, though not defined as “marriage.” At the same time, the president has opposed efforts to ban gay marriage at the state level, saying that he did not favor attempts to strip rights away from gay and lesbian couples.

The president’s position became a flashpoint this week, when Vice President Joe Biden pronounced himself “absolutely comfortable” with allowing same-sex couples to wed.

Obama aides insisted there was no daylight between the positions held by the president and his vice president when it comes to legal rights, but as other prominent Democrats also weighed in in favor of gay marriage, the disconnect became difficult for the White House to explain away.

The announcement completes a turnabout for the president, who has opposed gay marriage throughout his career in national politics. In 1996, as a state Senate candidate, he indicated support for gay marriage in a questionnaire, but Obama aides later disavowed it and said it did not reflect the candidate’s position.

In 2004, as a candidate for the US Senate, he cited his own religion in framing his views: “I'm a Christian. I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman.”

He maintained that position through his 2008 presidential campaign, and through his term as president, until today.

As president in 2010, Obama told ABC’s Jake Tapper that his feelings about gay marriage were “constantly evolving. I struggle with this.” A year later, the president told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “I’m still working on it.”

“I probably won't make news right now, George,” Obama said in October 2011. “But I think that there's no doubt that as I see friends, families, children of gay couples who are thriving, you know, that has an impact on how I think about these issues.”

Obama’s decision has political connotations for the fall.

The issue divides elements of the Democratic base, with liberals and gay-rights groups eager to see the president go farther, but with gay marriage far less popular among African-American voters.

Just yesterday, in North Carolina, voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage. President Obama carried North Carolina in 2008, and its status as a 2012 battleground was guaranteed by Democrats’ decision to hold their convention in Charlotte this summer.

Obama’s likely Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, opposes gay marriage, and fought his state’s highest court when Massachusetts became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004, when Romney was governor. Romney said on the campaign trail Monday that he continues to oppose gay marriage.

“My view is that marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman,” Romney said. “That’s the position I’ve had for some time, and I don’t intend to make any adjustments at this point. … Or ever, by the way.”
Well, this is awesome.
 

Dave

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It's going to hurt him politically but it's the right thing to do. Or should I say the correct thing to do. The Right thing to do is tell people how to live and who to love while at the same time getting divorced, beating their kids and telling everyone how holy they are.

But this was a damned good thing he did today.
 

BananaHands

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It's going to make things interesting and I think it'll put a lot of pressure on Romney.

He'll focus more on the marriage issue while Obama can push the economy.
 
Speaking as part of the demographic this actually reflects, the fact that the commander in chief even said this is a huge win. Even if it does turn out to be a purely political maneuver.
 

GasBandit

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It is the right thing to do. If only there was a way to combine the democrat social platform with the republican fiscal platform... :troll:
 

Dave

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I disagree, GasBandit. I think the Democratic fiscal policy is at this time stronger and makes more sense than the Republican one only because the Republican one wants to get rid of pretty much all taxes on businesses, remove all regulation, and completely gut helping programs such as social security and medicare/medicaid and care for women. While the Democrats only have TAX THE RICH at least it's a more viable fiscal program than letting the richest of the rich get even wealthier at the expense of those who can least afford it. But hey, as long as they make more money for their friends who cares, right?
 
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I'm pretty conflicted about this.

1: I don't really care about marriage (personally) as I don't plan on participating in it. I do however have friends that didn't even consider trying due to how pointless it would have been for them to try and just be shut down. Granted, this doesn't mean anything's changed but I do know it's a right step for the future.

2: This could be suicidal for his campaign. I don't honestly think he'll win over as many republican voters as he's going to lose democratic ones. Most of the people cheering for this news were already on his side....
 

ElJuski

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Obvious this was going to happen. Always knew Obama was keeping these things under his wings for election time.
 

GasBandit

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I went to go look to see if that was still the headline, and got blindsided by how awful all the fonts are on that page.
 

ElJuski

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Yup. The Dems can easily win a game of these social issue smokescreens against the Repubs, since the GOP has sauntered itself over the idealogical edge. Most moderates, it seems, don't give a shit about issues like gay rights or gun control. Romney boxed himself in.
 
M

makare

war on marriage?! I think we might be able to actually win that one. Marriage is a pussy.
 
I just wish someone, somewhere would respond to the oft-asked question of "How does two guys (or girls) being able to marry effect your marriage in any way?"
 

ElJuski

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Because if people did, then the GOP wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Social issues is the only veil that's left to a defunct party system that needs revitalization to make this two-party system worthwhile.
 

GasBandit

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I just wish someone, somewhere would respond to the oft-asked question of "How does two guys (or girls) being able to marry effect your marriage in any way?"
Not that I support the argument, but I've always assumed it was the same kind of anger that some engineers hold for people who call themselves engineers who don't have an engineering degree.
 
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