[NHL] Off Season- draft, trades, rumours, withdrawl support

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checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Statement from the Preds
"We are in receipt of the offer sheet signed between the Philadelphia Flyers and Shea Weber. Under the rules pertaining to an offer sheet, the Predators have one week to decide whether to match or accept the compensation. We have stated previously that, should a team enter into an offer sheet with Shea, our intention would be to match and retain Shea. Our ownership has provided us with the necessary resources to build a Stanley Cup-winning team. Due to the complexity of the offer sheet, we will take the appropriate time to review and evaluate it and all of its ramifications in order to make the best decision for the Predators in both the short and long-term.
“We do not anticipate any further comments on this situation until we make our decision within the next seven days.”​
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HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Looks like a decent replacement for Pronger.

So, I guess the song of the summer isn't "Hey I just met you" but rather "Fuck you Nashville!"
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

this is just eating me up inside, since it's basically a gigantic cliff with one side being competing for the Stanley Cup and the other side being admitting Nashville will always be a small market team with a ceiling of stealing a playoff series every 5 years or so

also Shea Weber is the fucking bomb

also fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

also I can't handle another former favorite player joining the Flyers
 
Jay

Jay

That contract length is fucking bullshit. It's Kovalchuk all over again with circumventing cap shit.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

The poison pill is the bonuses attached to each year of the contract. And Weber misses the 40YO cutoff in the last year of the contract.

*Sigh*

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If he stays, he's going to be miserable and demanding a trade ala Dwight Howard from about the moment he sets foot on the ice next year; if he goes, the Preds are in a deep hole for most of the season and Pekka is going to wonder what the hell he was thinking in signing long-term. And those four first rounders aren't gonna be the same as the Flyers last four first rounders, that you can pretty much guarantee.

If we match and sign, we're gonna be on the hook for his contract for a LONG time - no other team in the NHL is gonna want to trade for him without having the Preds shoulder some of the cost, especially if the new CBA basically turns it into a fustercluck. And the contract is basically un-insurable - and Shea's had issues staying healthy in the past.

If we let him go, we might as well run a white flag up the pole outside the front entrance of the Bridgestone Arena. Maybe we compete for the 8AFPOS; maybe we fight with Columbus for the Western Conference cellar. This team will likely be a lottery pick - which won't help much, even with the extra 1st rounder we'd get from Philly. And, if this team starts tanking, the fans aren't gonna be coming through the turnstiles. Which will lead to financial issues, which will lead to another round of a move to Quebec City or Hamilton or Saskatoon or wherever. And this time, we might not be able to keep their damn hands off our hockey team.

I HATE being the fan of a non-traditional market hockey club. No one north of the 48th parallel wants to see you last long enough to become a "traditional" hockey market.
 
HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Holy shit the signing bonus are insane on this deal. $68M in signing bonuses! All in the first 6 years, with only a whopping $12M in salary for those years. So only $30M for the final 7 years of the contract is a steal.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

That's the poison pill of the contract. The signing bonuses "front-load" the contract to the point where it makes it #### near impossible to justify agreeing to it.

Unless you're insane or your name is Paul Holmgren.
 
HCGLNS

HCGLNS

This signing bonus crap is out of hand. It's a total end run around the spirit of the salary cap, we're back to buying our way to a title. Weber will have a cap hit of $7.8M but get paid $14M for the first 4 years, can any small market team match that?
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

There is a thought: Preds agree to it, then appeal to GB that the contract is in violation of the existing CBA. GB nullifies it, allowing Nashville to re-negotiate the contract. Of course, then Shea files a grievance with the NHLPA, and we start down the road to turn the CBA talks into another lockout.
 
Covar

Covar

Massive 14 year contract offered, right after the owners told the players they're going to need to reduce their share of gross revenue by 11% to avoid a lockout.

Hurray for bullshit! Of course these are the same idiots that put such a blatant loophole into the salary cap rules and are surprised/upset that they're actually offering contracts that use it.
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Leafs have re-signed Kulemin, for 2 seasons, 5.6mil. So a bit of an increase from the last deal, but even with his lack of results last season I'm pleased with that. His low goal/ point count last season was not at all indicative of his on ice performance, where he was consistently one of our most hardest skating, most determined players, and if he kicks his production up next season this could be a real steal (if he doesn't then we overpaid... but still. I think it'll be unlikely he matches either of his last two seasons, I bet he falls somewhere in the between, 15-25 goals, 40+ pts range)

HCGLNS, what are your thoughts on Kuli? Are you a fan, or are you one of those people who wants him gone?
 
HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Unless the coaching staff has a good explanation for what happened this year, I'm not that happy about the trade. Does the new coach have a plan for him?
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

To clarify, 5.6 over the two seasons, so 2.8 each each season, compared to the 2.2 he was making with the old agreement.
Who knows what Carlyle has planned for him? I wouldn't be surprised if we see more physical play from him though. Maybe Van Reimsdyk will end up taking his place on the second line (I know there is talk of Van Reimsdyk playing centre between Kessel and Lupul, but I just don't think that'll last. I think he'll wind up back on the wing), and he'll be bumped down to third? How he does offensively without Grabbo is sketchy, if they can get him to throw his body around more, third line might be good for him. We've seen him give out some massive hits, and he is the type of player who will battle it out in front of the net for some dirty goals. I know they tried moving him around last season, but his output was so bad last season I don't think we can really even look at his performance on the third line compared to his performance on the second.
 
Vrii

Vrii

If you look at advanced metrics, Kulemin was definitively unlucky this past year. I don't have the exact numbers, but his shooting percentage dropped from something like 18% to under 7% in one year? There should be no way he comes in as low next year as he did last, so it's a good value for him.
 
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