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Prom canceled due to "teh GAY"!

#1

Dave

Dave

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lesbian_prom_date

A high school lesbian wants to bring her girlfriend to prom. The school says no. The ACLU says they gotta. The school says no they don't and cancels prom.

All I can think of? The lesbian chick is hot! Who wouldn't want to see her dancing close with her girlfriend?!? (By the way, she's 18 so I'm not pulling an Icarus.)



#2

Gusto

Gusto

School takes it's ball and goes home, tears in its eyes.

Very mature.

This is especially weird, because at least in Ontario, or even just in my school board, proms were NOT school sponsored. If a student didn't plan it, rent a space, sell tickets to students (off the school property of course) and get everything else going, the prom just didn't happen.


#3

Shakey

Shakey

Perfect set up for a Footloose sequel.


#4

ElJuski

ElJuski

Dave you obviously didn't see her full body.

But, uh, yeah. As far as the story is concerned...that's so shitty. No regard for the student either. They left her to fucking rot at that place. Yowzas.


#5

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

It's sad that the school canceled, it is the only course of action the school could likely take. If the superintendent caved to the ACLU he would likely be ran out of town. If he/she fought it, it would bankrupt the school district. Now he can pawn the head ache of making that decision off onto the parents that will organize the likely private prom.


#6

GasBandit

GasBandit

I'm reminded of the close-face episode of Moral Orel.


#7

Bubble181

Bubble181

Sometimes I weep for the backwardness of people.

Anyhoo, my prom was private too. School sponsored it by buying a couple of tickets for the principal and such, and that was it -everything else was student organised...So, you know, if they want a prom, just friggin' organise it. I'm pretty sure a hall just opened up to do it in, unless it was being held on school property.


#8



Chibibar

You know.... being a public school, they should allow it. Ah well. I guess the Principal doesn't like "teh gays" or at least the PTA might not like it. It is a sad sad day. Well, this can be a good thing (as other have posted above) starts a private prom where everyone can go :)


#9

Gusto

Gusto

Chibibar said:
Well, this can be a good thing (as other have posted above) starts a private prom where everyone can go Click here to enlarge
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Unfortunately I don't see this happening either.


#10



Chibibar

Gusto;352835][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
Well, this can be a good thing (as other have posted above) starts a private prom where everyone can go Click here to enlarge
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Unfortunately I don't see this happening either.[/QUOTE]

well... it would be like a massive dress up party. As long they don't sell tickets or have organization meeting on school property, it would be consider a private function that the school can't really restrict (as long you don't use the school name on anything)


#11



Iaculus

Gusto;352835][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
Well, this can be a good thing (as other have posted above) starts a private prom where everyone can go Click here to enlarge
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Unfortunately I don't see this happening either.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. I doubt Halforums could handle the traffic.


#12

Shakey

Shakey

Chibibar;352874][QUOTE=Gusto;352835][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
Well, this can be a good thing (as other have posted above) starts a private prom where everyone can go Click here to enlarge
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Unfortunately I don't see this happening either.[/QUOTE]

well... it would be like a massive dress up party. As long they don't sell tickets or have organization meeting on school property, it would be consider a private function that the school can't really restrict (as long you don't use the school name on anything)[/QUOTE]

I doubt the school is the only problem. It's a small town, and people aren't always the most tolerant. Add to that many people are going to blame her for the cancellation, and it's going to be a tough time getting her included.

Hopefully I'm wrong and it works out, but I wouldn't be too optimistic.


#13

Gusto

Gusto

Chibibar;352874][QUOTE=Gusto;352835][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
Well, this can be a good thing (as other have posted above) starts a private prom where everyone can go Click here to enlarge
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Unfortunately I don't see this happening either.[/QUOTE]

well... it would be like a massive dress up party. As long they don't sell tickets or have organization meeting on school property, it would be consider a private function that the school can't really restrict (as long you don't use the school name on anything)[/QUOTE]

What I mean is, if the issue here is that people in the area have problems with lesbians attending their prom, there's a good chance that the students hosting the replacement party wouldn't invite them.


#14

Rob King

Rob King

In my graduating year, I'm pretty sure there were a few girls who went as each-other's dates. One of the couples wasn't lesbian. In the year following mine there was a girl who brought her son (who was old enough to walk by that time) as her date. A few years before me, nearly lost in the antiquity of the school, a story was passed down about a guy who brought a ficus as his date.

This is all very crazy to me.


#15

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I can't believe this is happening in the 21st century.


#16

Fun Size

Fun Size

Dude, the last century we would have had the same story, but with black people. It was not as long ago as it feels.


#17

Baerdog

Baerdog

The part that boggled my mind was that the school seemed to require people to register their dates. At my high school you just bought your tickets and showed up at the dance with whomever you happened to be with. This is an incredibly backwards situation all around.


#18

@Li3n

@Li3n

How did the school even find out?!


#19

Dei

Dei

At my high school, if your date wasn't from our school, you had to register them.


#20

Rob King

Rob King

The Lovely Boner said:
I can't believe this is happening in the 21st century.
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You and me both.

I just learned very recently about a teenage girl from my church who is very definitely lesbian. I always knew she was a little off: whenever the teenagers talk about sex or whatever she pipes up and declares that sex is only for procreation, and she could never ever imagine enjoying sex. Then a close friend of my younger brother confided that there had been some hardcore sexual tension, flirting, and pretty explicit talk between her and this girl on a sleepover. (my brother's friend is a lesbian, although not completely out about it) That was like, two years ago when they were both in High School. Then this church-girl went to a weekend retreat, came back completely rejecting the other girl's advances, going so far as to declare them no longer friends for something like a year.

I just want to shake her and tell her it's okay :(. I thought she was just a Jesus-nutbar before, but now that all of this has come out, it's clear to me that she's hella overcompensating.

Homophobia makes me so goddamn angry some days.


#21

Baerdog

Baerdog

Dei said:
At my high school, if your date wasn't from our school, you had to register them.
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This was the same at my high school too, but it was only to keep track of who was going to be at the venue.


#22

Espy

Espy

The Lovely Boner said:
I can't believe this is happening in the 21st century.
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I agree. This is really sad and dumb.


#23

Troll

Troll

The comments for that article are... interesting. And more than a little scary.


#24



Chibibar

Gusto said:
What I mean is, if the issue here is that people in the area have problems with lesbians attending their prom, there's a good chance that the students hosting the replacement party wouldn't invite them.
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ah I see, well, I believe that kids are more open than their parent counterparts.


#25

Dave

Dave

NOO! Never EVER read the comments on a Yahoo news story! It'll suck the intelligence out of you!


#26

Troll

Troll

Dave said:
NOO! Never EVER read the comments on a Yahoo news story! It'll suck the intelligence out of you!
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It's too... late... I can already... feel myself getting... dum...

:Leyla:


#27



Chibibar

A Troll;352943][QUOTE=Dave said:
NOO! Never EVER read the comments on a Yahoo news story! It'll suck the intelligence out of you!
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It's too... late... I can already... feel myself getting... dum...

:Leyla:[/QUOTE]

sometimes I wonder if those people are just trolling or TRULY believe in what they type (some I am willing to cleanse them by fire)


#28

Cajungal

Cajungal

GasBandit said:
I'm reminded of the close-face episode of Moral Orel.
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Awwwww.... love that song.

"there's a blurry girl at the end of my nooose, her name is close face..."


#29

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I went to my GF's prom with her. It was a "debacle" too. Honestly the girl should have kept her mouth shut about it and just showed up like we did.


#30

ElJuski

ElJuski

That's the sad thing...they have to keep their mouth shut. At what point to people stop being quiet...I think she did what she had to do. Hopefully any backlash and suffering is worth it, and hopefully this helps to stop shit like this from happening again.


#31



makare

That's just absurd. Facepalm at an elite level.

Yeah Shego is right if she would have been quiet about it and just shown up she probably would have been ok but really, should she have to be? She shouldn't have to sneak around. I don't know about proms elsewhere but squeeing for weeks before hand about your plans was the fun part for me.


#32

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

That's just it. You're right, she shouldn't have to. There will be backlash, there will be issues, but guess what? It's going to happen again and again and again.

I understand the point of "furthering the cause" I really do, but in my personal life, I never really contributed the "drop in the bucket" and the expense of my own happiness. Selfish as that is.


#33

Fun Size

Fun Size

I went back and read the comments. I simultaneously feel so smug and so sad.


#34

ElJuski

ElJuski

Well, and as a straight white male who will never have any of those problems, I can't say that what you did was selfish or wrong at all. We all agree though, it's a fucking shame these moments exist.


#35



makare

Oh definitely, I am not criticizing Shego at all. It is just shitty that this is even an issue.

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my sister didnt even try and take a girl to the prom she just went with a guy. What was important to us was that she enjoyed her prom not that she made some kind of political statement.


#36

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Don't worry Heteros have had more school sponsored dances shut down than gays have. It mostly revolves around Freak Dancing. There are a ton of schools that no longer have Proms or Homecoming Dances because all the recent dance steps involve cock and ass contact.


#37

@Li3n

@Li3n

sixpackshaker said:
There are a ton of schools that no longer have Proms or Homecoming Dances because all the recent dance steps involve cock and ass contact.
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How else would someone dance?!


#38

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Like good little Baptist?


#39

Fun Size

Fun Size

@Li3n;353040][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
There are a ton of schools that no longer have Proms or Homecoming Dances because all the recent dance steps involve cock and ass contact.
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How else would someone dance?![/QUOTE]

A better question is who is bringing donkeys and chickens to the dance in the first place.

Crazy kids.


#40

ElJuski

ElJuski

makare1 said:
Oh definitely, I am not criticizing Shego at all. It is just shitty that this is even an issue.

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my sister didnt even try and take a girl to the prom she just went with a guy. What was important to us was that she enjoyed her prom not that she made some kind of political statement.
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I know you aren't criticizing Sheg. I was making an addendum to my post saying she should speak up. We both agree, in a more perfect world...


#41

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I think it's funny that in my graduating class, in highly conservative Alberta, in my Catholic high school, the two openly gay girls each brought their dates to our Prom/Grad and no one gave a shit. The three openly gay guys too. Sure, our principle didn't like it, but I guess he figured it wasn't the time to raise a shit stink about it.


#42

fade

fade

makare1 said:
That's just absurd. Facepalm at an elite level.

Yeah Shego is right if she would have been quiet about it and just shown up she probably would have been ok but really, should she have to be? She shouldn't have to sneak around. I don't know about proms elsewhere but squeeing for weeks before hand about your plans was the fun part for me.
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SHE'LL TAKE THE CASE!


#43

Dei

Dei

Dave said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lesbian_prom_date

A high school lesbian wants to bring her girlfriend to prom. The school says no. The ACLU says they gotta. The school says no they don't and cancels prom.

All I can think of? The lesbian chick is hot! Who wouldn't want to see her dancing close with her girlfriend?!? (By the way, she's 18 so I'm not pulling an Icarus.)

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Just for a pic rebuttal... http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/03/11/mississippi.prom.suit/index.html?hpt=T2


#44



Kitty Sinatra

Dave's old, man. To him, every 18 year old is hot.


#45

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Fun Size said:
Dude, the last century we would have had the same story, but with black people. It was not as long ago as it feels.
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That still happens. Some high schools still have segregated proms.


#46

ElJuski

ElJuski

Morgan Freeman just made a documentary about that. It's the sickest thing.


#47



Philosopher B.

Between reading about this and watching Jesus Camp today, I am a very sad puppy.


#48



Chibibar

Dei said:
Just for a pic rebuttal... http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/03/11/mississippi.prom.suit/index.html?hpt=T2
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Yea. I can almost imagine that the "faculty" is trying make this girl's life miserable cause they don't approve of "teh gays" I mean with news traveling at the speed of internet, people will find out quickly and lay blame. I mean the girl is already getting flack from her classmate about it is all "her" fault" that prom was canceled.


#49

tegid

tegid

Segregated proms? My god... and I thought that the original story was disgusting.

Also, when I started reading the comments in the article yesterday, I couldn't believe it. It's the girls fault?? People are horrible.


#50



Chazwozel

escushion;353283][QUOTE=Fun Size said:
Dude, the last century we would have had the same story, but with black people. It was not as long ago as it feels.
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That still happens. Some high schools still have segregated proms.[/QUOTE]

Well yeah, white kids can't be exposed to that 'black music'. Next thing you know they'll be hippin and a hoppin'; bippin and a boppin instead of getting crew cuts and enlisting for WWII!


#51

@Li3n

@Li3n

I went to sign up for WWII... but they said i was too frail and sickly... lucky for me this General dude was impressed with my patriotism and told me that maybe he could help... i'm seeing him later, wish me luck.

/offtopic


#52

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

http://m.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100311/NEWS/100311012/-1/WAP&template=wapart


The rest of her looks pretty good to me too.

Oh, you know how they canceled prom so the ACLU wouldn't sue them?
Guess what..the ACLU is suing them for canceling the prom :)


#53

GasBandit

GasBandit



/obligatory


#54



Chazwozel

Well along the lines of Gasbandit...

I'm not agreeing at all with what the school did, but why did the girl announce that she was going to prom with her partner in the first place. I don't recall telling the school board who I was going on a date with to prom... Why not just show up like that? If they kick you out, you've got a nice lawsuit on your hands.


#55

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Chazwozel said:
Well along the lines of Gasbandit...

I'm not agreeing at all with what the school did, but why did the girl announce that she was going to prom with her partner in the first place. I don't recall telling the school board who I was going on a date with to prom... Why not just show up like that? If they kick you out, you've got a nice lawsuit on your hands.
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It's been already brought up that if you bring someone not from the school to prom nowadays, you have to register them or something when you buy their ticket.


#56

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Chazwozel said:
Well along the lines of Gasbandit...

I'm not agreeing at all with what the school did, but why did the girl announce that she was going to prom with her partner in the first place. I don't recall telling the school board who I was going on a date with to prom... Why not just show up like that? If they kick you out, you've got a nice lawsuit on your hands.
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One of the news articles said that they had prevented same-sex couples from attending proms in the past, and she wanted to clarify the policy beforehand. Can't say that I blame her. I'd rather fight that fight in advance rather then get turned away at the door. Whether she'd have a lawsuit or not when turned away, once that happens, you've missed your senior prom and there's no way to ever get it back.


#57

Shakey

Shakey

Chazwozel said:
Well along the lines of Gasbandit...

I'm not agreeing at all with what the school did, but why did the girl announce that she was going to prom with her partner in the first place. I don't recall telling the school board who I was going on a date with to prom... Why not just show up like that? If they kick you out, you've got a nice lawsuit on your hands.
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Maybe she wanted to know she would actually be able to attend it, instead of getting kicked to the curb the second she stepped in.


#58



Chazwozel

The Lovely Boner;353458][QUOTE=Chazwozel said:
Well along the lines of Gasbandit...

I'm not agreeing at all with what the school did, but why did the girl announce that she was going to prom with her partner in the first place. I don't recall telling the school board who I was going on a date with to prom... Why not just show up like that? If they kick you out, you've got a nice lawsuit on your hands.
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It's been already brought up that if you bring someone not from the school to prom nowadays, you have to register them or something when you buy their ticket.[/QUOTE]

Times must have changed, cause back in my day (class of 2000), we just showed up with whoever. But yeah, this story is all sorts of fucked in the head.

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Tinwhistler;353459][QUOTE=Chazwozel said:
Well along the lines of Gasbandit...

I'm not agreeing at all with what the school did, but why did the girl announce that she was going to prom with her partner in the first place. I don't recall telling the school board who I was going on a date with to prom... Why not just show up like that? If they kick you out, you've got a nice lawsuit on your hands.
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One of the news articles said that they had prevented same-sex couples from attending proms in the past, and she wanted to clarify the policy beforehand. Can't say that I blame her. I'd rather fight that fight in advance rather then get turned away at the door. Whether she'd have a lawsuit or not when turned away, once that happens, you've missed your senior prom and there's no way to ever get it back.[/QUOTE]

I don't get what goes through the minds of these school boards but I imagine it goes something like this: "OMG! THOSE QUEERS R GONNA GIVE OUR KIDS DA AIDS"

Followed by:


#59

GasBandit

GasBandit

I think I can solve the mystery of the "picture" disparity between the CNN picture and the other pictures which look a little more posed...



#60

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

The magic of makeup can have a lot to do with it. As can the difference between a candid shot and a posed shot. As an example, I give you: Reese Witherspoon.


#61



Disconnected

That's pretty much what goes through their heads Chazwozel. I've met some of them, I bet most of us have met these types. The amount of stupid they vomit out as speech is unmatched.

From Tin's article link:
".... She said she also was told she could not wear a tuxedo, as she had planned."
Can't wear a tux? What year is it in this town? I doubt she was gonna show up with her dads suit on, at least I would hope not. There are some very nice tuxedo's designed with the female form in mind.

I agree with Tin and Dave, she is a lovely looking young woman.


#62



Chazwozel

I think it's kinda goofy that the kids in her school are blaming her for canceling prom and not the school. Is she supposed to apologize for being gay now?


#63



Chibibar

Disconnected said:
That's pretty much what goes through their heads Chazwozel. I've met some of them, I bet most of us have met these types. The amount of stupid they vomit out as speech is unmatched.

From Tin's article link:
".... She said she also was told she could not wear a tuxedo, as she had planned."
Can't wear a tux? What year is it in this town? I doubt she was gonna show up with her dads suit on, at least I would hope not. There are some very nice tuxedo's designed with the female form in mind.

I agree with Tin and Dave, she is a lovely looking young woman.
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heck when I graduated, some girls did wear Tux cause it was "cool thing" to do ;)

But yea, at my school, we had to register our date in order to buy tickets.


#64

GasBandit

GasBandit

Chazwozel said:
I think it's kinda goofy that the kids in her school are blaming her for canceling prom and not the school. Is she supposed to apologize for being gay now?
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Kids are stupid, mean, selfish and ignorant. They are humanity at its purest form. So, of course they blame the microscopic catalyst and not the ton of reactant.


#65

Norris

Norris

I know when I went to prom (2008) both a person and their date had to sign a little contract attached to the ticket order form, have their parents sign it, and specify who you wanted at your table. Any date 21 or older had to be personally approved by the principal and at my cousins' high school (same city), Freshmen had to be approved as well. So depending on the school's rules, she may have had to tell administrators.

That said...what. the. fuck. At the school dances at my school, single girls would often dance (yup, freak dancing and all) together to look hot or attract dudes or just to get on the damned floor. Since at my prom (yup - the best kind of evidence, anecdotal!) no one really was kissing heavily or making out...what the hell is the difference between that and lesbians?


#66

bhamv3

bhamv3

At this point, I feel blessed that I was too socially awkward to want to go to the prom, or even care about it.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it was the school's intention to have this girl blamed by her classmates for the prom's cancellation. At the very least, they could've predicted it would happen.


#67



Chibibar

bhamv3 said:
At this point, I feel blessed that I was too socially awkward to want to go to the prom, or even care about it.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it was the school's intention to have this girl blamed by her classmates for the prom's cancellation. At the very least, they could've predicted it would happen.
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It doesn't take a genius to figure that out (they are bible belt country anyway). I wouldn't be surprise at all if the school is pretty much trying to do that. "Stamp out teh ghey!" but of course since the girl had asked ACLU to begin with, ACLU have record and now suing the school. The court will have the evidence presented (if they don't reinstate prom) so we'll see.


#68

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Anyone to blame but themselves. You can see that through any government institution though, in any situation.

Didn't go to my prom; it sounded like a waste of money and my GF at the time was across the country. But I know it's a more important thing for some people. We didn't have to register guests at my school either--just buy your tickets.


#69

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...LGBT-friendly-prom?cid=sharing_facebook:21239

Follow up:
American Humanist Association members Todd and Diana Stiefel have made a $20,000 grant available in order to throw the Itawamba Agricultural High School their own, privately funded Senior Prom, open to all who wish to attend.
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#70



Chibibar

Tinwhistler said:
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...LGBT-friendly-prom?cid=sharing_facebook:21239

Follow up:
American Humanist Association members Todd and Diana Stiefel have made a $20,000 grant available in order to throw the Itawamba Agricultural High School their own, privately funded Senior Prom, open to all who wish to attend.
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Wow 20k??? That is not too shabby, I mean you can rent a hall, band and refreshment. That is pretty awesome.


#71

fade

fade

Here comes 40K from some nutso group to fund a separate "gay-free" private prom.


#72

Dave

Dave

That's one hell of a prom! Holy shit! Those kids should be thanking their lucky stars for the lesbians!


I know I do.


#73

GasBandit

GasBandit

Dave said:
That's one hell of a prom! Holy shit! Those kids should be thanking their lucky stars for the lesbians!


I know I do.
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20 bucks says the lesbian in question goes straight after graduation.


#74

Norris

Norris

GasBandit said:
20 bucks says the lesbian in question goes straight after graduation.
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If you were an Olympian god, your symbol would be a cadoucheus, wouldn't it?


#75



Chazwozel

Dorko;354663][QUOTE=GasBandit said:
20 bucks says the lesbian in question goes straight after graduation.
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If you were an Olympian god, your symbol would be a cadoucheus, wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]

The funny part is he's probably right.


#76

Norris

Norris

Chazwozel;354937][QUOTE=Dorko;354663][QUOTE=GasBandit said:
20 bucks says the lesbian in question goes straight after graduation.
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If you were an Olympian god, your symbol would be a cadoucheus, wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]

The funny part is he's probably right.[/QUOTE]Didn't say I disagreed. Still doesn't make the school's decision fair.


#77

Dei

Dei

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=489055&gt1=28103

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- A lesbian high school student embroiled in a legal flap over her school's prom policy has received a $30,000 scholarship on \"The Ellen DeGeneres Show.\"
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#78

Dave

Dave

I like the $20,000 gift but think this part is a bit over the top. Hell, I'd have said I was gay had I known someone was going to just give me $30k for college! (For that much I may have followed through!)


#79

GasBandit

GasBandit

Dave said:
I like the $20,000 gift but think this part is a bit over the top. Hell, I'd have said I was gay had I known someone was going to just give me $30k for college! (For that much I may have followed through!)
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Well, everybody has a price and I guess now we know yours, eh? ;)


#80

fade

fade

My after-prom was cancelled due to teh gay, too. Should've known when she did that head-turn-when-I-tried-to-kiss-her-on-the-lips thingy.


#81



Kitty Sinatra

GasBandit;357147][QUOTE=Dave said:
I like the $20,000 gift but think this part is a bit over the top. Hell, I'd have said I was gay had I known someone was going to just give me $30k for college! (For that much I may have followed through!)
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Well, everybody has a price and I guess now we know yours, eh? ;)[/QUOTE]

Gas is starting a Fuck Dave's Ass fund? Should we set up a donation link on the front page to help his dream along?


(I'm getting banned for this, aren't I?)


#82

LordRendar

LordRendar

The School:



#83

Adam

Adammon

LordRendar said:
The School:

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At the risk of making the obvious Photoshop, here it is ;)




#84

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I read that second one as "Screw you Guys, I'm going Homo." I feel... dirty now.


#85

Dave

Dave

Seems that they really, REALLY hate the gay.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/constance-mcmillen-fake-p_n_525856.html

A lesbian teen who successfully sued her Mississippi school for the right to bring her girlfriend to prom was left out and was instead directed to a \\"fake prom\\" on Friday, according to The Advocate.

Constance McMillen, her date and just a handful of others, including two classmates with learning disabilities, attended the dance in Fulton, Mississippi while most of her other classmates from Itawamba Agricultural High School reportedly partied at a separate prom that McMillen was not invited to.

McMillen made headlines just a few weeks ago when, with the help of the ACLU, she fought the school's decision to cancel prom. The school canceled the dance after McMillen sought to bring her girlfriend and to wear a tuxedo.

As part of a preliminary ruling, a judge decided that McMillen was allowed to bring a girl as a date. The judge did not order the school to reinstate the prom because it was understood that McMillen would be invited to a prom being held by parents of her Itawamba classmates. Instead, that prom was canceled and was replaced with the sparsely attended country club event.
Kristy Bennett, the ACLU's legal director for Mississippi, told NEMS360, that she was disappointed.

\\"Whatever we find will be brought to the court's attention,\\" Bennett told NEMS. \\"Whether it is in the damages trial, or whatever. There will still be a trial on the merits. The case didn't end in the preliminary hearing.\\"

McMillen, 18, said that her feelings were hurt, but that there was at least one good thing about the night. The Advocate:
Two students with learning difficulties were among the seven people at the country club event, McMillen recalls. \\"They had the time of their lives,\\" McMillen says. \\"That's the one good thing that come out of this, [these kids] didn't have to worry about people making fun of them [at their prom].\\"​
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#86

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Constance McMillen, her date and just a handful of others, including two classmates with learning disabilities, attended the dance in Fulton, Mississippi while most of her other classmates from Itawamba Agricultural High School reportedly partied at a separate prom that McMillen was not invited to.
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Wow, just wow.


#87

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Wow, just wow. That is one classless school system. I bet after the monetary damages levied against the school goes through, there will be a lot of administrative jobs opening up.


#88

Dave

Dave

We can only hope.


#89

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The deception is a greater example of discrimination than the cancellation. And it will likely carry a heavier fine.


#90

Dave

Dave

sixpackshaker said:
The deception is a greater example of discrimination than the cancellation. And it will likely carry a heavier fine.
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Depends on whether the alternate "gay-free" prom was sponsored by private individuals or the school.


#91

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

If the school was primarily behind that, then I hope the ACLU takes them to the cleaners. God only knows what those kids are being taught.

If it was the parents behind it, that sucks enormously, and my heart goes out to the girl, but there is no better time than the end of high school to leave and never come back. I hope whatever college she ends up going to provides a friendlier, less-discriminatory environment.


#92

phil

phil

The administrators will probably all keep their jobs and the school will be given a large donation by a private group of parents for defeating the homosexual agenda and keeping our schools safe for their kids to become Christian warriors for god. How these people have such a stranglehold on the country is beyond me.


#93

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

In case you didn't think the people involved were evil enough

**Open Minded Readers Only**
I am a senior at IAHS, and I’ve known Constance for the last 6 years. Please hear our side of the story before you decide on our fate.
The party we had in Evergreen (the county neighborhood I live in) is 30 mins away from the school. we rented out the community center, hired vendors, decorated, and our parents ran the security/chaperone staff- but it wasn’t prom. Prom was at the country club where constance and 7 other students were. The reason the senior class boycotted the actual prom was not because we hate gays. We wanted a drama-free gathering to celebrate 3 great years and 1 lousy one together, and we wanted to lay low. We also wanted to do it without the main cause of the lousy. What people are failing to realize is that much of the fault of this whole stink lies with Constance, not her mistreatment by the school district, but her crazy-reckless need for attention. It sounds mean and horrible and like we planned it all specifically to embarrass Constance, but we didn’t. We let her have her prom with her girlfriend and her tuxedo and we went to party it up in the “boondocks” not because we wanted her rights violated, but so we could salvage what has turned into a total fiasco. As a whole we didn’t support her decision to throw the district under the bus, or her insinuations that we’re all just a bunch ‘a hicks driving around in beater pick up trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses. IAHS is one of the top schools in the state and I’m proud of that, and I’m proud that we took a stand and just said you know what? forget it, we have just as much right as you do to have a party for ourselves. So we did, and now we’re getting flack because poor Connie’s ego got a bit of bruising. She’s playing the lesbian card to prove she ALWAYS gets what she wants. This time, we didn’t just let her.
Take it as you will, because I’m sure it sounds like we faked her out, but understand this- the decision NOT to attend prom had nothing to do with the school or with Constance’s sexual preferences; it had everything to do with proving we weren’t going to let her and the ACLU steamroll us into doing what Constance wanted. We flexed the muscle of the majority and we’ll suffer the consequences.
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#94

bhamv3

bhamv3

The Lovely Boner said:
In case you didn't think the people involved were evil enough

**Open Minded Readers Only**
I am a senior at IAHS, and I’ve known Constance for the last 6 years. Please hear our side of the story before you decide on our fate.
The party we had in Evergreen (the county neighborhood I live in) is 30 mins away from the school. we rented out the community center, hired vendors, decorated, and our parents ran the security/chaperone staff- but it wasn’t prom. Prom was at the country club where constance and 7 other students were. The reason the senior class boycotted the actual prom was not because we hate gays. We wanted a drama-free gathering to celebrate 3 great years and 1 lousy one together, and we wanted to lay low. We also wanted to do it without the main cause of the lousy. What people are failing to realize is that much of the fault of this whole stink lies with Constance, not her mistreatment by the school district, but her crazy-reckless need for attention. It sounds mean and horrible and like we planned it all specifically to embarrass Constance, but we didn’t. We let her have her prom with her girlfriend and her tuxedo and we went to party it up in the “boondocks” not because we wanted her rights violated, but so we could salvage what has turned into a total fiasco. As a whole we didn’t support her decision to throw the district under the bus, or her insinuations that we’re all just a bunch ‘a hicks driving around in beater pick up trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses. IAHS is one of the top schools in the state and I’m proud of that, and I’m proud that we took a stand and just said you know what? forget it, we have just as much right as you do to have a party for ourselves. So we did, and now we’re getting flack because poor Connie’s ego got a bit of bruising. She’s playing the lesbian card to prove she ALWAYS gets what she wants. This time, we didn’t just let her.
Take it as you will, because I’m sure it sounds like we faked her out, but understand this- the decision NOT to attend prom had nothing to do with the school or with Constance’s sexual preferences; it had everything to do with proving we weren’t going to let her and the ACLU steamroll us into doing what Constance wanted. We flexed the muscle of the majority and we’ll suffer the consequences.
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They took a stand against... what, exactly?


#95

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

bhamv3;366471][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner said:
In case you didn't think the people involved were evil enough

**Open Minded Readers Only**
I am a senior at IAHS, and I’ve known Constance for the last 6 years. Please hear our side of the story before you decide on our fate.
The party we had in Evergreen (the county neighborhood I live in) is 30 mins away from the school. we rented out the community center, hired vendors, decorated, and our parents ran the security/chaperone staff- but it wasn’t prom. Prom was at the country club where constance and 7 other students were. The reason the senior class boycotted the actual prom was not because we hate gays. We wanted a drama-free gathering to celebrate 3 great years and 1 lousy one together, and we wanted to lay low. We also wanted to do it without the main cause of the lousy. What people are failing to realize is that much of the fault of this whole stink lies with Constance, not her mistreatment by the school district, but her crazy-reckless need for attention. It sounds mean and horrible and like we planned it all specifically to embarrass Constance, but we didn’t. We let her have her prom with her girlfriend and her tuxedo and we went to party it up in the “boondocks” not because we wanted her rights violated, but so we could salvage what has turned into a total fiasco. As a whole we didn’t support her decision to throw the district under the bus, or her insinuations that we’re all just a bunch ‘a hicks driving around in beater pick up trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses. IAHS is one of the top schools in the state and I’m proud of that, and I’m proud that we took a stand and just said you know what? forget it, we have just as much right as you do to have a party for ourselves. So we did, and now we’re getting flack because poor Connie’s ego got a bit of bruising. She’s playing the lesbian card to prove she ALWAYS gets what she wants. This time, we didn’t just let her.
Take it as you will, because I’m sure it sounds like we faked her out, but understand this- the decision NOT to attend prom had nothing to do with the school or with Constance’s sexual preferences; it had everything to do with proving we weren’t going to let her and the ACLU steamroll us into doing what Constance wanted. We flexed the muscle of the majority and we’ll suffer the consequences.
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They took a stand against... what, exactly?[/QUOTE]

God, what despicable people.


#96

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

bhamv3 said:
They took a stand against... what, exactly?
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Uppity gays and the tyranny of the ACLU wanting equality for all


#97

Dave

Dave

Being told they had to stop discriminating, I guess.

On one hand I can see their point. We have no idea how much this girl throws things in their faces. She could be a total drama queen and attention whore. I still think it's dumb, though. A few of my daughter's friends are going to prom together because they don't have dates. I guess that's fine as long as one of them doesn't want to wear a tux, right?


#98

tegid

tegid

That some of them think they are doing the right thing and not being discriminatory is what makes it worse.


#99

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

listen, im a junior at itawamba. constance is STUPID for blowing this up and ruining the prom for the rest of my school. some of us kids met with about 50 parents last night and they have gladly decided to throw us a prom at the tupelo furniture market on april 2. you would just have to live here to know what its like. theres only about 3500 people that live in our city limits so EVERYONE knows everyone. they dont have to throw us a prom, they volunteered to and we appreciate them so much for it.. AND to top it off, it is going to be INVITATION ONLY. so constance and her gay-activist friends will not be attending. they can go have their own prom because we certainly do not want any of them there.. i wish some of you could be here though. we have WTVA newsmen at front doors of the school every freaking morning. they flag us down to interview us as we’re coming and leaving school. im SICK AND TIRED OF IT. we are very traditional here so personally i think if constance doesnt like it here she needs to pack her stuff and MOVE. no one even liked her here that much in the first place..

Source(s):
i LIVE and go to school at fulton.
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oh no people are challenging you on being a bigot and an awful human being oh nooooooo


#100

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Dave said:
She could be a total drama queen and attention whore.
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Could be, to be sure, but that's scarcely a "point". If they really wanted to show that they weren't "hicks driving around in beater pick up trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses", they had an excellent opportunity to do so, and failed rather spectacularly.

A few of my daughter's friends are going to prom together because they don't have dates. I guess that's fine as long as one of them doesn't want to wear a tux, right?
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This too. Some girls at my prom wore tuxes that were cut for girls. I wasn't complaining. :p


#101

Covar

Covar

TeKeo;366492][QUOTE=Dave said:
She could be a total drama queen and attention whore.
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Could be, to be sure, but that's scarcely a "point". If they really wanted to show that they weren't "hicks driving around in beater pick up trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses", they had an excellent opportunity to do so, and failed rather spectacularly.
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Idk, sounds like her classmates just got sick of having to defend themselves against being "hicks driving around in beater pickup trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses" and just decided to say "FUCK YOU" to her and the whole thing.

Egg on peoples faces for blaming the school for that I suppose.


#102

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

But did she get the photo at the prom? That's what matters.


#103

drifter

drifter

Covar said:
Idk, sounds like her classmates just got sick of having to defend themselves against being "hicks driving around in beater pickup trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses" and just decided to say "FUCK YOU" to her and the whole thing.

Egg on peoples faces for blaming the school for that I suppose.
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If they really wanted to show that they weren't "hicks" the students could have, you know, just asked the school to let Constance and her girl go to prom.

Also, let me get this straight. They act like discriminatory assholes against a gay couple. The media spotlight descends because of this. They get sick and tired of the media attention, so in response they...act like discriminatory assholes! Don't science classes teach cause and effect anymore? Sheesh,no wonder we're losing ground to China :p


#104

Covar

Covar

drifter;366582][QUOTE=Covar said:
Idk, sounds like her classmates just got sick of having to defend themselves against being "hicks driving around in beater pickup trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses" and just decided to say "FUCK YOU" to her and the whole thing.

Egg on peoples faces for blaming the school for that I suppose.
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If they really wanted to show that they weren't "hicks" the students could have, you know, just asked the school to let Constance and her girl go to prom.

Also, let me get this straight. They act like discriminatory assholes against a gay couple. The media spotlight descends because of this. They get sick and tired of the media attention, so in response they...act like discriminatory assholes! Don't science classes teach cause and effect anymore? Sheesh,no wonder we're losing ground to China :p[/QUOTE]
I forgot where it was the Student body that cancelled the prom originally. believe it or not many people honestly just don't give a fuck, and don't appreciated being called discriminatory hicks because of it.


#105

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

They may have wanted a prom with out CNN and FOX acting as paparazzi.


#106

drifter

drifter

Covar said:
I forgot where it was the Student body that cancelled the prom originally. believe it or not many people honestly just don't give a fuck, and don't appreciated being called discriminatory hicks because of it.
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Certainly, it wasn't the student body that canceled prom. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have gathered themselves to tell the school administrators to just go ahead and let them attend. It's one thing to not give a fuck; it's another to be complicit with the discrimination, and judging by the few comments quoted, it seems indicative that it is the case.


#107

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

drifter said:
Certainly, it wasn't the student body that canceled prom. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have gathered themselves to tell the school administrators to just go ahead and let them attend. It's one thing to not give a fuck; it's another to be complicit with the discrimination, and judging by the few comments quoted, it seems indicative that it is the case.
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Exactly.

Dunno if it's a generational, or geographical, or whatever thing, but going by how popular a lot of the gay students in my school were, my class would have told the administration to go screw themselves, just because it was the administration who said it.


#108

Fun Size

Fun Size

TeKeo;366605][QUOTE=drifter said:
Certainly, it wasn't the student body that canceled prom. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have gathered themselves to tell the school administrators to just go ahead and let them attend. It's one thing to not give a fuck; it's another to be complicit with the discrimination, and judging by the few comments quoted, it seems indicative that it is the case.
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Exactly.

Dunno if it's a generational, or geographical, or whatever thing, but going by how popular a lot of the gay students in my school were, my class would have told the administration to go screw themselves, just because it was the administration who said it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but you guys were just into sticking it to the man. Which might explain why so many of you were okay with the gay students, now that I think about it...


#109



Chibibar

TeKeo;366476][QUOTE=bhamv3;366471][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner said:
In case you didn't think the people involved were evil enough

**Open Minded Readers Only**
I am a senior at IAHS, and I’ve known Constance for the last 6 years. Please hear our side of the story before you decide on our fate.
The party we had in Evergreen (the county neighborhood I live in) is 30 mins away from the school. we rented out the community center, hired vendors, decorated, and our parents ran the security/chaperone staff- but it wasn’t prom. Prom was at the country club where constance and 7 other students were. The reason the senior class boycotted the actual prom was not because we hate gays. We wanted a drama-free gathering to celebrate 3 great years and 1 lousy one together, and we wanted to lay low. We also wanted to do it without the main cause of the lousy. What people are failing to realize is that much of the fault of this whole stink lies with Constance, not her mistreatment by the school district, but her crazy-reckless need for attention. It sounds mean and horrible and like we planned it all specifically to embarrass Constance, but we didn’t. We let her have her prom with her girlfriend and her tuxedo and we went to party it up in the “boondocks” not because we wanted her rights violated, but so we could salvage what has turned into a total fiasco. As a whole we didn’t support her decision to throw the district under the bus, or her insinuations that we’re all just a bunch ‘a hicks driving around in beater pick up trucks spitting tobacco and burning crosses. IAHS is one of the top schools in the state and I’m proud of that, and I’m proud that we took a stand and just said you know what? forget it, we have just as much right as you do to have a party for ourselves. So we did, and now we’re getting flack because poor Connie’s ego got a bit of bruising. She’s playing the lesbian card to prove she ALWAYS gets what she wants. This time, we didn’t just let her.
Take it as you will, because I’m sure it sounds like we faked her out, but understand this- the decision NOT to attend prom had nothing to do with the school or with Constance’s sexual preferences; it had everything to do with proving we weren’t going to let her and the ACLU steamroll us into doing what Constance wanted. We flexed the muscle of the majority and we’ll suffer the consequences.
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They took a stand against... what, exactly?[/QUOTE]

God, what despicable people.[/QUOTE]

heh. I guess these kids didn't get the edumication in high school ;) they act EXACTLY they didn't want to be labeled.


#110

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Fun Size;366608][QUOTE=TeKeo;366605][QUOTE=drifter said:
Certainly, it wasn't the student body that canceled prom. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have gathered themselves to tell the school administrators to just go ahead and let them attend. It's one thing to not give a fuck; it's another to be complicit with the discrimination, and judging by the few comments quoted, it seems indicative that it is the case.
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Exactly.

Dunno if it's a generational, or geographical, or whatever thing, but going by how popular a lot of the gay students in my school were, my class would have told the administration to go screw themselves, just because it was the administration who said it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but you guys were just into sticking it to the man. Which might explain why so many of you were okay with the gay students, now that I think about it...[/QUOTE]

True. I cannot in good faith claim otherwise since it's been over a decade.


#111



Steven Soderburgin

I love how they try to shift the blame toward Constance. How dare that queer desire equal treatment!!!!


#112

Norris

Norris

While the school was wrong...I'd have to think there is more to this story than just "Lesbian meets discrimination, overcomes it with ACLU, gets discriminated again" if only SEVEN people showed up to the official prom. Think about it for a second - the entire rest of the senior class funded, attended, and concealed a second prom because they were sick of this girl. Either it is the single least gay friendly town in America...or there's something about the Lesbian girl's behavior/attitude/whatever that we're not hearing.


#113



Steven Soderburgin

Dorko said:
I dunno...I think the kid kinda had a point. The school has the right to set a dress code and dictate who you are allowed to bring to a school sponsored event. They even had the right to cancel the event. And I somehow doubt that there would have been a problem if the girl hadn't gone to the school saying "i'm bringing my girlfriend and wearing tux because we're totally lesbians, ok?".
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So she should be forced to dress in a manner that makes her feel uncomfortable and doesn't represent who she is? This is a fucking public school.
Gay people have the same rights as straight people do...but no one likes it when you thrust your sexuality in their face, hetero or homo.
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Tell me how gay people "thrusting sexuality in someone's face" consists of doing anything different from what straight couples do every day in public all over the country? Note: this means doing something more than kissing, hugging, holding hands, showing affection, smiling at each other, wearing the clothes they want to wear, going on dates, going to school dances dressed in dresses and tuxes, publicly expressing their love and affection for another person, getting married, shopping together, giving each other eskimo kisses, showing pride in who you are, etc.
Originally I was totally on the girl's side. The school still comes out of this smelling like shit and they totally handled this wrong at every stage. But she has managed to tick off literally all but five other members of the senior class who wanted to attend prom. Think about that for a second. Either that town is bigoted beyond belief and she's lucky to have not been hate-crimed yet...or she's an attention whore who uses her sexuality to get her way. Considering I knew a couple of girls in high school who fell into that latter category, I'm sort of starting to see the student body's point.
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It's the bold part. Did you know that before all this stuff happened with Constance McMillan, a transgendered student was forced not only out of the school but out of the town? http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/ar...ended-a-transgendered-student-back-in-january

EDIT: Also, re "uses her sexuality to get her way" in this case, "her way" was going to the prom with all of her classmates and taking her date of choice and dressing in something similar to what half the people there would be wearing. Why shouldn't she have gotten her way? How exactly was she using her sexuality to get her way when it was her sexuality that prevented her from getting her way? Should she not have complained about the school's blatantly bigoted actions?


#114



Steven Soderburgin

lollin about quoting you before you edited your post. Either way, my response stands.


#115

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Reading through the articles "after fake prom" remind me of my oiriginal high school/community way too much. Though there, it was about religious reasons and not "moral" ones.


#116

Rob King

Rob King

Shegokigo said:
Reading through the articles "after fake prom" remind me of my oiriginal high school/community way too much. Though there, it was about religious reasons and not "moral" ones.
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I'm not sure I understand the distinction. If they call it 'moral' reasons, isn't that just 'religious reasons that we want to make seem secular so that you won't just toss us in the loony bin'?


#117



Steven Soderburgin

Also the whole idea of them just wanting to have a prom without the media circus because they were sick of this girl would be more convincing if they hadn't used tactics that have been commonly used to exclude black students from predominantly white proms and if they hadn't also uninvited the special needs kids.


#118

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Rob King;366784][QUOTE=Shegokigo said:
Reading through the articles "after fake prom" remind me of my oiriginal high school/community way too much. Though there, it was about religious reasons and not "moral" ones.
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I'm not sure I understand the distinction. If they call it 'moral' reasons, isn't that just 'religious reasons that we want to make seem secular so that you won't just toss us in the loony bin'?[/QUOTE]

No, because:

1. Not everyone's morals are based on religion.

2. Some people hate homosexuals not because of religion. Don't ask me why they do, but I don't think they were killed in Nazi Germany or some atheist Slavic countries based on "God's will".

It's amazing what goes on through high school, and so many people have to experience graduation and getting on with their lives to realize that high school means precisely dick.


#119

Bowielee

Bowielee

Man, how I HATE the "thrusting your sexuality in my face" argument. I have heterosexuality shoved in my face almost every minute of every day. Whether it's the fact that almost every movie ever made features guy on girl action, or a hetero couple holding hands down the street. All that, and as soon as someone wants to be treated like everyone else, they're "shoving it in your face".

GRARRAARRRARARARAR

GAYRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#120

Dave

Dave

If a lesbian shoved her sexuality in my face I'd probably like it.

'Course, she wouldn't be much of a lesbian then.

These kids need to learn that in some cases it's better to say nothing and look like tools than to open your mouth and prove it.


#121

Covar

Covar

escushion said:
2. Some people hate homosexuals not because of religion. Don't ask me why they do, but I don't think they were killed in Nazi Germany or some atheist Slavic countries based on "God's will".
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The Nazi Germany thing is an easy one. If you are going about trying to create the master race of supreme human beings those who will never pass on their "superior" genetic material don't make the cut.


#122

D

Dubyamn

Dorko said:
While the school was wrong...I'd have to think there is more to this story than just "Lesbian meets discrimination, overcomes it with ACLU, gets discriminated again" if only SEVEN people showed up to the official prom. Think about it for a second - the entire rest of the senior class funded, attended, and concealed a second prom because they were sick of this girl. Either it is the single least gay friendly town in America...or there's something about the Lesbian girl's behavior/attitude/whatever that we're not hearing.
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It wasn't an official prom. The Judge didn't order the school to reinstate the official prom because the parents were throwing a replacement prom that he was assured she would be allowed to attend. This wasn't a group of kids funding a secret prom for themselves to avoid drama this was the parents
1. Outright lying to the judge.
2. Creating a false "prom" I'm guessing they saved money by skimping on everything, DJ, transportation, lights, food.
3. Then selected the undesirables who were told the prom would be taking place at the country club while informing the other kids about the place the real party would be taking place at.

They violated their agreement with the judge and outright humiliated the girl, the special ed kids and whoever else wasn't invited to the real prom.


#123



Chibibar

Dubyamn;367105][QUOTE=Dorko said:
While the school was wrong...I'd have to think there is more to this story than just "Lesbian meets discrimination, overcomes it with ACLU, gets discriminated again" if only SEVEN people showed up to the official prom. Think about it for a second - the entire rest of the senior class funded, attended, and concealed a second prom because they were sick of this girl. Either it is the single least gay friendly town in America...or there's something about the Lesbian girl's behavior/attitude/whatever that we're not hearing.
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It wasn't an official prom. The Judge didn't order the school to reinstate the official prom because the parents were throwing a replacement prom that he was assured she would be allowed to attend. This wasn't a group of kids funding a secret prom for themselves to avoid drama this was the parents
1. Outright lying to the judge.
2. Creating a false "prom" I'm guessing they saved money by skimping on everything, DJ, transportation, lights, food.
3. Then selected the undesirables who were told the prom would be taking place at the country club while informing the other kids about the place the real party would be taking place at.

They violated their agreement with the judge and outright humiliated the girl, the special ed kids and whoever else wasn't invited to the real prom.[/QUOTE]

you be surprise how some bible belt community can do.


#124

Rob King

Rob King

escushion;366832][QUOTE=Rob King;366784][QUOTE=Shegokigo said:
Reading through the articles "after fake prom" remind me of my oiriginal high school/community way too much. Though there, it was about religious reasons and not "moral" ones.
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I'm not sure I understand the distinction. If they call it 'moral' reasons, isn't that just 'religious reasons that we want to make seem secular so that you won't just toss us in the loony bin'?[/QUOTE]

No, because:

1. Not everyone's morals are based on religion.

2. Some people hate homosexuals not because of religion. Don't ask me why they do, but I don't think they were killed in Nazi Germany or some atheist Slavic countries based on "God's will".

It's amazing what goes on through high school, and so many people have to experience graduation and getting on with their lives to realize that high school means precisely dick.[/QUOTE]

To be clear, I wasn't saying that atheists (or otherwise non-religious persons) have no morals. My thought was that if you are a religious person, then that is what informs your morals. Therefore morals and religious reasons become the same.

I see what you're saying though. Although after some thought ... I know some Muslims who have no ethical or moral problem with pork, but they don't eat it anyways, just as an affirmation of their faith. So I'm wrong either way.


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Steven Soderburgin

Dave, I really don't see where you're coming from here. She really should've just rolled over and not done anything when the school said she couldn't participate in prom, which is a pretty ubiquitous rite of passage in high school, because she's gay?


EDIT: It's entirely possible I'm completely misunderstanding your post and you're talking about the messages posted by the IAHS students defending the fake prom


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Dubyamn

Steven Soderburgin said:
Dave, I really don't see where you're coming from here. She really should've just rolled over and not done anything when the school said she couldn't participate in prom, which is a pretty ubiquitous rite of passage in high school, because she's gay?


EDIT: It's entirely possible I'm completely misunderstanding your post and you're talking about the messages posted by the IAHS students defending the fake prom
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You've figured it out.


#127



Steven Soderburgin

Yeah I realized that was exactly what was happening when I edited the post, lol


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