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PS3 retail sales overtake 360?

#1

@Li3n

@Li3n

Seems so: http://www.gamespy.com/articles/115/1159284p1.html


#2



Jiarn

Yep, more people want Blu-Ray. Had the 360 ever added the functionality, I'm sure it would have buried the PS3. That coming from someone who prefers the PS3 as a gaming system.


#3

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Booyah! In your face, Gates!


#4

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Jiarn said:
Yep, more people want Blu-Ray. Had the 360 ever added the functionality, I'm sure it would have buried the PS3. That coming from someone who prefers the PS3 as a gaming system.
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Yeah, it was pretty much inevitable with the Blu-Ray thing. Sony gambled big that they would be able to extend the life of the PS2 long enough that they could be prepared to dominate the tail-end of the current console generation with tighter hardware and Blu-Ray, and it completely paid off (though XBL probably delayed it for a while).


#5

Espy

Espy

Yeah, color me not surprised either. Why not pay a little more for that blu-ray player when it can also be your video game/netflix/etc player.


#6

@Li3n

@Li3n

Well M$ still has more units shipped to suppliers then $ony... and they're selling more in the US even now (as per link in my OP).

But the race is at an interesting place...


#7

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I never knew the 360 out sold the PS3...


#8

@Li3n

@Li3n

sixpackshaker said:
I never knew the 360 out sold the PS3...
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This the only place on the internet you've been visiting then i take it...


#9

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I think I've said it before, I have not played a console video game since PONG.
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I just looked at the products and the Sony looked superior. I figured other people would see it the same way.


#10

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

sixpackshaker said:
I think I've said it before, I have not played a console video game since PONG.
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I just looked at the products and the Sony looked superior. I figured other people would see it the same way.
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Remember VHS versus Beta? ;)


#11

Espy

Espy

Azurephoenix said:
Remember VHS versus Beta? ;)
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I'm not sure thats a good analogy here since Blu-Ray won and the PS3 is doing very well...


#12

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I'm using that analogy because betamax was the superior format yet VHS managed to dominate the market... hence... thinking that people will pick the superior product simply because it's better isn't necessarily the case.


#13

@Li3n

@Li3n

Didn't VHS have longer run time?!


And the PS3 came out a year after 360 and at almost 2x the price...


#14

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

And Atari whipped ColecoVision


#15

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

@Li3n said:
Didn't VHS have longer run time?!
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Yes, but Beta was superior in picture and auidio quality and in many facets of recording.

@Li3n said:
And the PS3 came out a year after 360 and at almost 2x the price...
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True, but Microsoft dropped the ball so hard with their Xbox 360 GPU failures (red rings of death) and they supported the losing format between HDDVD and Blu Ray... I'm not surprised the PS3 has made such an incredible sales gain.


#16

@Li3n

@Li3n

Azurephoenix said:
Yes, but Beta was superior in picture and auidio quality and in many facets of recording.
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And obviously the difference wasn't enough to make up for the lack of play time...


Azurephoenix said:
True, but Microsoft dropped the ball so hard with their Xbox 360 GPU failures (red rings of death) and they supported the losing format between HDDVD and Blu Ray... I'm not surprised the PS3 has made such an incredible sales gain.
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RRoD's are pretty old, and so is Blue Ray...

IMO the price was always the problem, and now that the difference isn't as large it's showing.


#17

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Red Rings of Death still happen.


#18

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Frankie Williamson said:
Red Rings of Death still happen.
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Damn true... granted the Jasper chipset is LIGHT YEARS better than the very first motherboards... it's still prone to failures. The Vejle chipset on the Xbox 360 S is too new to really have much data on it's long term lifespan (or so I have observed from my friends who have them anyways).


#19

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I have a couple of diehard 360 gamer friends (who live together) and have a total of 6 360's in their house right now from their collective red ring adventures.

I gave up after the first one.


#20

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I bought a 360 core unit when they first came out and actually made it last about 3.5 years before it died on me (which of course was well past the free replacements they were handing out). I replaced it with an Xbox arcade version (Jasper chipset) and it's been good ever since.

I have 4 dead Xbox 360's in my basement that I've inherited from friends lol.


#21

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Mine died several weeks out of the 3 year period too.


#22



Chibibar

Blu-Ray players WAS expensive and PS3 is a better solution. Blu-Ray player + gaming system. It was a win-win for customer (but a lost for Sony since PS3 are under selling cost) We just saw you can buy a Blu-Ray player for less than a 100$ now :)


#23

Gusto

Gusto

The idea was that your average consumer, Joe Sixpack to borrow a phrase, might go to the video game store to buy a console for himself or his kids. Keep in mind this is around 2007.

He probably doesn't give a shit about Blu-Ray.
He probably isn't gonna hook his console up to the internet and tus doesn't care about built-in wifi.
If he cares about video games at all, he might be swayed by either consoles exclusives, but 360 and PS3 share a lot of the same library.

But ultimately, if he isn't part of the small tech-nerd/"hardcore gamer" audience that cares about a lot of that shit, he's gonna see that he can pick up a 360, Call of Duty 2 and an extra controller for the price of a PS3.

Done.


#24

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

So, which one has "All the graphics?"


#25

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

PC's...

;)


#26

figmentPez

figmentPez

Chibibar said:
We just saw you can buy a Blu-Ray player for less than a 100$ now :)
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Yeah, but does that player support all of the Blu-Ray features? Not everyone cares about whatever BD-Live is, but last time I looked at the list of bare-minimum requirements to put the Blu-Ray logo on, versus what is possible on the PS3 and other players, there was a lot of stuff. More important than that is compatibility. Some of the earliest players to drop under $149 are no longer compatible with the latest discs, and don't have firmware updates to fix them.


#27



Disconnected

Azurephoenix said:
Decked out Uber PC's...

;)
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FTFY. ;)


#28

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Not even, Crytek proved it with their 600 dollar Crysis 2 machine.


#29

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

link?

Yeah, I had a $500 game rig. Then 2 years later I popped in a $170 card and can play most games at full settings.


#30



Chibibar

figmentPez said:
Yeah, but does that player support all of the Blu-Ray features? Not everyone cares about whatever BD-Live is, but last time I looked at the list of bare-minimum requirements to put the Blu-Ray logo on, versus what is possible on the PS3 and other players, there was a lot of stuff. More important than that is compatibility. Some of the earliest players to drop under $149 are no longer compatible with the latest discs, and don't have firmware updates to fix them.
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I understand. I think that is why PS3 are still selling as a gaming console AND Blu-Ray player (they did won after all) It is a win-win for the consumer since it does update, has all the features AND can play 3D :)


#31

Frank

Frankie Williamson

sixpackshaker said:
link?

Yeah, I had a $500 game rig. Then 2 years later I popped in a $170 card and can play most games at full settings.
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http://www.geforce.com/#/Optimize/Guides/how-to-build-a-kick-ass-crysis-2-pc-for-under-600

This is Nvidia's guide. I think you'd get even better numbers using a 460 rather than a 550 or even going with price competitive ATI cards.

It also doesn't hurt that the Cryengine 3 is easily the single most aggressively optimized gaming engine ever developed. It will squeeze every ounce of performance it can out of any machine.


#32

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I remember thinking about getting a PS3 when it came out. But the cost, the fact I didn't have an HD-TV and that there were honestly very few games you could play on it all turned me away. That last one was very damning for the system early in. It's only in the last couple of years that some of their exclusive titles have begun getting really good. God of War III (and the I & II collection), Little Big Planet, Uncharted, it's starting to really spruce things up.

Plus, I've said it a million times before, but some of the best games coming out these days have been the smaller, downloadable games. Several of them have been PSN exclusive, like all the Double Fine games (Stacking, Costume Quest). Plus, playing online is free, unlike Live.

Now that the price is down, people are starting to pick the system up. It's not that the 360 isn't a bad system by any means. But you look at the three systems and this is kinda what I see about them: the Wii is primarily kids or more specifically family; it's definitely for the most casual of gamers. The 360 is for the hardcore gamers who want their games big, loud and violent (Halo, Gears of War, etc; basically the FPS crowd for the most part). The PS3 is kind of a happy medium between the two. You've got a lot of FPS games that are on the 360 as well, along with a few exclusive like Killzone. But then you've got a couple of games for the casual gamer like Little Big Planet.


#33

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The lack of HDTV in the homes when 360 and PS3 came out really hurt both systems early on. I do kick myself that I did not buy a PS3 with my TV. 2 years on and I still don't have a console game system.


#34

@Li3n

@Li3n

Frankie Williamson said:
Red Rings of Death still happen.
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And the PS3 still has Blu-Ray...

I meant that RRoD's have been there from the start (and used to be worse) and people still bought more 360's then PS3's. Hence the most likely factor was price (which went way down for the PS3).


#35

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

ThatNickGuy said:
Several of them have been PSN exclusive, like all the Double Fine games (Stacking, Costume Quest).
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None of the Double Fine stuff is exclusive. You can get them all on the 360.


#36

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Yeah, a friend of mine informed me of that a few days ago when he bought Costume Quest for 360. My bad. I think Live gets it a bit later or something.


#37

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

ThatNickGuy said:
Yeah, a friend of mine informed me of that a few days ago when he bought Costume Quest for 360. My bad. I think Live gets it a bit later or something.
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No, Live's had it since Day 1. If anything it's Sony who is notorious for the delays on the PSN.


#38

fade

fade

I picked the Ps3 over the 360 because of history. I loved the PS, and in the last gen, I had the ps2. I eventually traded that for an xbox, and hated it. There weren't many of the games I liked on the xbox. I just extrapolated that, true or not, to the current gen. Plus the blu-ray. OtherOS had something to do with my decision, too, so imagine my disappointment when I found out it was gone in the latest software.


#39



Joe Johnson

I bought an Insignia Blue ray player for a little more than 60 bucks. I think it does everything: BDLive (never use) Netflix (use once in awhile) Firmware updates. I'm not sure what other features are out there, but I don't think I'm missing out on anything - or rather, if there IS a feature I'm not getting, it's highly unlikely that I'd actually use it.

I held out on buying one for a really long time. Basically, high cost with little gain. Yes, I get they are much higher resolution than a basic DVD, but it was never a big enough difference to make me demand a new player.


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