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Aug 5, 2010#1

ScytheRexx

Looks like sometimes Scott does listen to the fans. We all know Jade has been kind of... droopy recently, but first thing I noticed the minute I saw today's comic was he is trying something different with her. Have to admit, she looks a lot better now.

PvPonline

Comparison with her last front faced shot.

Aug 5, 2010#2

Gusto

She did look good in today's strip but I don't know if it was an active effort on Scott's part.

Aug 5, 2010#3

makare

wow yeah she totally looks better. this pleases me.

Aug 5, 2010#4

Philosopher B.

Dude, that's creepy! She looks like a real person.

Aug 5, 2010#5

ThatNickGuy

PvP's still going?

Huh.

Aug 5, 2010#6

Dave

Scott's art has gained by leaps and bounds since he moved to PA. I think his stuff has been phenomenal.

Aug 5, 2010#7

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Now if only I could move to the PA studios....

Aug 5, 2010#8

Element 117

He hired a Korean anime team of interns to mimic his style. It cost him $4 each.

#FalseAccusations

Aug 5, 2010#9

Cajungal

I like the way she and Miranda look in this strip.

Aug 5, 2010#10

Hylian

I think Scott's art has been greatly improving lately

Aug 5, 2010#11

Gusto

I tweeted my approval of his artwork on yesterday's strip to him too.

Bumble, let's start our OWN PA studio.

Aug 5, 2010#12

LittleSin

Gusto said:
I tweeted my approval of his artwork on yesterday's strip to him too.

Bumble, let's start our OWN PA studio.

I want to be part of this studio!

Aug 5, 2010#13

Philosopher B.

Can I be an intern. I can fetch the coffee and old-lady getups!

Aug 5, 2010#14

edzepp

I love it. For all his faults, his art has improved significantly.

Aug 5, 2010#15

Gusto

LittleSin;424217][QUOTE=Gusto said:
I tweeted my approval of his artwork on yesterday's strip to him too.

Bumble, let's start our OWN PA studio.

I want to be part of this studio![/QUOTE]

Absolutely.

Aug 5, 2010#16

Sparhawk

mr_thehun;424181][QUOTE=.Amy. said:
He hired a Korean anime team of interns to mimic his style. It cost him $4 each.

#FalseAccusations

more like 150$ a month per animator[/QUOTE]

You're implying that he would actually find trained people, .Amy. did say interns.

Aug 5, 2010#17

Allen, who is Quiet

Gusto;424224][QUOTE=LittleSin;424217][QUOTE=Gusto said:
I tweeted my approval of his artwork on yesterday's strip to him too.

Bumble, let's start our OWN PA studio.

I want to be part of this studio![/QUOTE]

Absolutely.[/QUOTE]

Does this studio need people to write comics?

I feel this is the kind of position that can teach me a big word that means "getting eaten alive by a boa constrictor"

Aug 6, 2010#18

PatrThom

It was Miranda's new appearance that made me wonder for a moment whether she was a new character.

--Patrick

Aug 6, 2010#19

KCWM

I miss the character of Reggie.

PS - FYGIF

Aug 6, 2010#20

Cajungal

Looking at it again, one reason why I like the new design is that it brings back Jade's newer old eyes (not the oldest design, the one after it), where the lids were always a little closed. I missed that.

Aug 6, 2010#21

North_Ranger

Ahhhh, Jade... Back on my list of comic characters I'd schtoink.

Honestly, though, the improvement is massive. She actually looks beautiful and self-assured again, instead of some old harridan who hasn't had her coffee in weeks.

Also, is there an opening for an animesque artist in this new studio?

Aug 6, 2010#22

David

Can I join your guy's studio?

I wanna fit in...

Aug 6, 2010#23

Gusto

Word.

But I'm running out of cubicles here. D:

Aug 6, 2010#24

ThatNickGuy

I want in, too. But don't worry about a cubicle for me. A corner of the room where I can sit with my laptop is good enough for me!

Aug 6, 2010#25

Cajungal

North_Ranger said:
schtoink

:heh:

Aug 7, 2010#26

Jay

Notice how Frank Cho is able to draw Jade properly? Did you see how he's able to do hair so much nicer than Scott can? I grow tired of seeing Jade's eyebrow superimposed on her hair.

Aug 7, 2010#27

sixpackshaker

I never noticed her hair in that comic.

Aug 7, 2010#28

Jay

I pay attention to the smallest details.

Aug 10, 2010#29

KCWM

The idea of wanting to...what's the word...schtoink a comic character is a bit disturbing to me.

I like Jade's expression in the most recent comic

Aug 10, 2010#30

Espy

From PVPONLINE@Twitter

Hey other male cartoonists: have you ever given yourself a boner drawing boobs? If your answer is no you're lying

Stay Classy Kurt. Stay classy.

Aug 10, 2010#31

Dave

Aug 10, 2010#32

Gusto

Aug 10, 2010#33

Espy

GUSTO YOU PERV

Aug 10, 2010#34

Fun Size

In Gusto's defense, he was painting boobs.

On his junk.

Aug 10, 2010#35

sixpackshaker

Remind me to never touch Kurt's Wacom.

Aug 10, 2010#36

Silver Jelly

hey, this has happenned to me both drawing boobs and writing about them! And I'm not a pervert or anyth... oh, wait.

Aug 10, 2010#37

GasBandit

well, this calls for meticulous testing.

Boobs. Boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs... boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs... boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs.. hey, I think I'm starting to feel something...

Aug 10, 2010#38

Fun Size

Is...is it boobs?

Aug 10, 2010#39

LittleSin

I've gotten a girl boner drawing pretty boys before.

Mmmmmm...pretty boys.

Aug 10, 2010#40

GasBandit

LittleSin said:
I've gotten a girl boner drawing pretty boys before.

Mmmmmm...pretty boys.

Aug 10, 2010#41

North_Ranger

KCWM said:
The idea of wanting to...what's the word...schtoink a comic character is a bit disturbing to me.

I like Jade's expression in the most recent comic

Soooo... It's disturbing to feel a little aroused by a drawing of a sexy woman?

Also, people who say they'd schtoink Minnie Mouse or something... THOSE guys are disturbing.

Aug 10, 2010#42

KCWM

North_Ranger;425888][QUOTE=KCWM said:
The idea of wanting to...what's the word...schtoink a comic character is a bit disturbing to me.

I like Jade's expression in the most recent comic

Aug 11, 2010#43

Telephius

Fun Size said:
In Gusto's defense, he was painting boobs.

On his junk.

Its all the stroking...brush stroking.

Aug 11, 2010#44

GasBandit

Do you dare?

Rule34.paheal presents...
minnie_mouse

DO YOU DARE?

(Not even remotely safe for work. Not safe for childhood. Not safe for sanity. Not safe for lunch, at the very least)

Aug 11, 2010#45

Silver Jelly

GasBandit said:
Do you dare?

Rule34.paheal presents...
minnie_mouse

DO YOU DARE?

(Not even remotely safe for work. Not safe for childhood. Not safe for sanity. Not safe for lunch, at the very least)

I dared.

WTF

Aug 11, 2010#46

KCWM

Silver Jelly;426166][QUOTE=GasBandit said:
Do you dare?

Rule34.paheal presents...
minnie_mouse

DO YOU DARE?

(Not even remotely safe for work. Not safe for childhood. Not safe for sanity. Not safe for lunch, at the very least)

I dared.

WTF[/QUOTE]

Your avatar is fitting for this response

Aug 11, 2010#47

Silver Jelly

Amorous Eyes said:
^ My point exactly. Most of it looks like it's drawn by 8 year olds.

There was one that was pure comedy though. The first one (if I'm not mistaken, I'm not interested in browsing that mage again) that looks made in MS paint.

NSFW

http://rule34-images.paheal.net/_im...ney Donald_Duck Mickey_Mouse Minnie_Mouse.png

Aug 11, 2010#48

fade

I've found drawn images quite evocative before. It's obviously not the ink and paper you're attracted to. It's the woman it represents.

Aug 11, 2010#49

GasBandit

Amorous Eyes said:
There are much better sites for cartoon porn out there than rule34 .paheal .net

but so few have that oh-so-delicious WTFMYEYES factor.

Aug 11, 2010#50

GasBandit

Amorous Eyes;426247][QUOTE=GasBandit;426242][QUOTE=Amorous Eyes said:
There are much better sites for cartoon porn out there than rule34 .paheal .net

but so few have that oh-so-delicious WTFMYEYES factor.[/QUOTE]

So that's your fetish? Getting disgusted? I can help you with a few sites if that's what you're into.[/QUOTE]

Believe me, I don't need your help. Excuse me, I have to go google video search "pop cyst".

Aug 11, 2010#51

PatrThom

GasBandit said:
Believe me, I don't need your help. Excuse me, I have to go google video search "pop cyst".

Make sure you add 'perianal' to that query. An ex had one of those. Messy.

Also, I was much more disturbed by the pictures of Donald than anyone else. Just the idea of that machine-gun laugh/rant he has was enough to give my imagination enough ammo to wince a few times.

--Patrick

Aug 11, 2010#52

Cajungal

GasBandit said:
Do you dare?

Rule34.paheal presents...
minnie_mouse

DO YOU DARE?

(Not even remotely safe for work. Not safe for childhood. Not safe for sanity. Not safe for lunch, at the very least)

NOOO WHY!??!

Aug 11, 2010#53

Philosopher B.

I will never be aroused again.

Aug 12, 2010#54

Chazwozel

KCWM;425990][QUOTE=North_Ranger;425888][QUOTE=KCWM said:
The idea of wanting to...what's the word...schtoink a comic character is a bit disturbing to me.

I like Jade's expression in the most recent comic

Soooo... It's disturbing to feel a little aroused by a drawing of a sexy woman?

Also, people who say they'd schtoink Minnie Mouse or something... THOSE guys are disturbing.[/QUOTE]

There's a pretty big difference between being aroused and wanting to schtoink. Being aroused by Jade? Maybe Frank Cho's version of Jade...but even then, I wasn't anywhere close to the mindset of "I'll be in my bunk".

And you're right about the Minnie Mouse thing...that is far more disturbing to me.[/QUOTE]

I too like to invest my emotion in things that are real, and not some bizarre fantasy of fucking cartoon characters.

Aug 12, 2010#55

GasBandit

Chazwozel;426661][QUOTE=KCWM;425990][QUOTE=North_Ranger;425888][QUOTE=KCWM said:
The idea of wanting to...what's the word...schtoink a comic character is a bit disturbing to me.

I like Jade's expression in the most recent comic

Aug 12, 2010#56

Fun Size

Or Daphne from Scooby Doo. Amirite guys?

:tumbleweed:

Guys?

Aug 12, 2010#57

fade

I still don't get it. It's the woman and the sexuality it represents. If you want to get technical, it's no less "real" than a photograph. Do those get you excited?

Aug 12, 2010#58

GasBandit

fade said:
I still don't get it. It's the woman and the sexuality it represents. If you want to get technical, it's no less "real" than a photograph. Do those get you excited?

This is the part where he says at least a photograph is an image of something that IS real. Seriously, didn't we JUST have this discussion in 2007?

Aug 12, 2010#59

ScytheRexx

Personally, I like drawn depictions of sex often times more then photographs, as they allow freedom to create imagery that is fantastical and often times more aesthetically pleasing. Though, that does not mean I would pick a drawn image of sex over actual sex or live nudity, I don't think anyone is that silly.

Aug 12, 2010#60

fade

GasBandit;426899][QUOTE=fade said:
I still don't get it. It's the woman and the sexuality it represents. If you want to get technical, it's no less "real" than a photograph. Do those get you excited?

This is the part where he says at least a photograph is an image of something that IS real. Seriously, didn't we JUST have this discussion in 2007?[/QUOTE]

But, so are the aspects of the drawing that evoke sexual feelings.

Yeah, I've noticed the discussions cycle a lot here.

Aug 12, 2010#61

Silver Jelly

fade;426942][QUOTE=GasBandit;426899][QUOTE=fade said:
I still don't get it. It's the woman and the sexuality it represents. If you want to get technical, it's no less "real" than a photograph. Do those get you excited?

Aug 12, 2010#62

Gusto

Chili without beans is scarcely chili at all.

Aug 12, 2010#63

North_Ranger

Amorous Eyes;426895][QUOTE=fade said:
I still don't get it. It's the woman and the sexuality it represents. If you want to get technical, it's no less "real" than a photograph. Do those get you excited?

Or paintings for that matter. Good art (including statues, etc..) is even supposed to invoke feelings and emotions. And yes, sometimes even arousal. But even the most realistic paintings are still painted globs on a canvas. Nothing like the real thing.

Or hell, porn.. It's still a flat 2D screen (usually) you are watching it on. People you don't even know. How SICK![/QUOTE]

Thanks to the both of you for putting the matter so eloquently. That's pretty much how I view these things. Liberty Meadows, Heavy Metal (the old one, not the crappy remake), certain European comics (eg. Druuna), Jade's new design in PvP... seriously, those are some quite beautiful drawn women.

Also, people take me way too seriously. I just like to take these moments to promote the use of the word "schtoink"

It's gonna be the next big thing, you'll see!

Aug 12, 2010#64

GasBandit

MAD Magazine's on the phone, NR, they want to have a word with you...

Aug 12, 2010#65

North_Ranger

ScytheRexx said:
Personally, I like drawn depictions of sex often times more then photographs, as they allow freedom to create imagery that is fantastical and often times more aesthetically pleasing.

That's true. Especially considering that truly aesthetic photography of the nude female form tends to get swamped in the sea of bad porn. Frank Cho's already been mentioned, and I admit finding his work... invigorating.

ScytheRexx said:
Though, that does not mean I would pick a drawn image of sex over actual sex or live nudity, I don't think anyone is that silly.

Unless they're that Asian guy who's in love with an anime pillow

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GasBandit said:
MAD Magazine's on the phone, NR, they want to have a word with you...

I will only negotiate with Mr Neumann. In person.

And tell them to stop sending Spy vs Spy to rub me off! I've had to throw their unconscious asses out of the house twice already this week! Those guys just can't work together.

Aug 15, 2010#66

Jay

Silver Jelly said:
http://rule34-images.paheal.net/_im...ney Donald_Duck Mickey_Mouse Minnie_Mouse.png

HOLY FUCK DID I LOL HARD

HAHAHAHAAA

Aug 18, 2010#67

Dave

Getting back to the PvP part of this PvP thread...

Yesterday's strip (read this morning) had me rolling! Apparently Scott has been taking some crap about the new improved Jade.

PvPonline » Archive » Take My Wife…

I fricking love it!

Aug 18, 2010#68

Dave

In that last panel when she smiles she looks like a REAL PERSON!

It's a wonderful improvement over art I didn't know needed improvement.

Aug 18, 2010#69

SpecialKO

Dave said:
In that last panel when she smiles she looks like a REAL PERSON!

It's a wonderful improvement over art I didn't know needed improvement.

Seriously, apparently Scott should have moved in with the P-A guys years ago.

Aug 19, 2010#70

North_Ranger

Amorous Eyes;429264][QUOTE=SpecialKO;429222][QUOTE=Dave said:
In that last panel when she smiles she looks like a REAL PERSON!

It's a wonderful improvement over art I didn't know needed improvement.

Seriously, apparently Scott should have moved in with the P-A guys years ago.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone here doubt that this is exactly the reason why his art is improving?[/QUOTE]

Well, it's certainly not his fans and readers who are offering constructive criticism about his craft.

Bazinga.

Aug 19, 2010#71

DarkAudit

Somewhere in the Google is Scott's portrait of Jade in full wedding WOW! That was as awesome a picture as I'd ever seen from him. I wonder what he could do with her current look as a similar work.

Aug 19, 2010#72

Tinwhistler

I think he's also defensive about it because this is the exact same complaint that he's often had about Buckley's work in the past (though this last year, the CAD art and story telling has improved to the point where I've moved it into my daily rotation)

Aug 19, 2010#73

kaykordeath

I think the Rolling Stone cover in today's, shows, even more so, that he's clearly putting more time and effort into the art..

Aug 20, 2010#74

CynicismKills

That's pretty common in comics now anyway, it's lame but hell most major publishers have artists who base characters off actors. Many a time Norman Osborne has been Tommy Lee Jones, and the Wanted comic pretty much starts Eminem.

As for improvement, unless it's a drastic change in style 9 times out of 10 it's going to be subtle and gradual over the course of a lot of work. It also comes with trying new things with your style, and unfortunately that's hard for any working artist since fans are pretty stubborn when it comes to change.

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