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Keith Olbermann rolls out the whaaambulance with a series of twitter posts complaining that Fox's brand of over-the-top isn't the same as his.

Keith Olbermann said:
It wasn't a big shark but Jon Stewart jumped one just now with the "everybody on Thr cable is the same" naiveté
Which apparently irritated people, to whom he responded with:
Keith Olbermann said:
The America before today's cable wasn't reasonable discussion.It was the 1-sided lockstep of Fox and people afraid of Fox.That got us Iraq.
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Keith Olbermann said:
I wish it were otherwise. But you can tone down all you want and the result will be: the Right will only get LOUDER. Sorry.
See, Keith, what you are missing is Stewart wasn't saying one side is as bad as another, or they do it the same amount, or even disagreeing is wrong. It's the language used (like your Worst Person in the World segment) that goes way over the top in demonizing people who have different opinions than you.

There is a reason why some pundits were featured multiple times and some not at all. Those who weren't featured don't tend to make ridiculous assertions about those who have different political views.
 
Keith Olbermann rolls out the whaaambulance with a series of twitter posts complaining that Fox's brand of over-the-top isn't the same as his.

Keith Olbermann said:
It wasn't a big shark but Jon Stewart jumped one just now with the "everybody on Thr cable is the same" naiveté
Which apparently irritated people, to whom he responded with:
Keith Olbermann said:
The America before today's cable wasn't reasonable discussion.It was the 1-sided lockstep of Fox and people afraid of Fox.That got us Iraq.
and
Keith Olbermann said:
I wish it were otherwise. But you can tone down all you want and the result will be: the Right will only get LOUDER. Sorry.
See, Keith, what you are missing is Stewart wasn't saying one side is as bad as another, or they do it the same amount, or even disagreeing is wrong. It's the language used (like your Worst Person in the World segment) that goes way over the top in demonizing people who have different opinions than you.

There is a reason why some pundits were featured multiple times and some not at all. Those who weren't featured don't tend to make ridiculous assertions about those who have different political views.
Rachel Maddow > Keith Olberman by far.
 
Any extreme is bad, though... extreme polarization is not good for anyone... even if you sympathize with one side. Let's learn at least that from the Rally.
 
Any extreme is bad, though... extreme polarization is not good for anyone... even if you sympathize with one side. Let's learn at least that from the Rally.
I'm ok with extreme polarization. Stewart even said we have very different ideas. It's the vitriol and the painting people who disagree as un-American, evil, suspicious, dangerous, and unstable that he was trying to get across at the rally and wanted to bring attention to.
 
Well, sorta. He still is pouting that he's unfairly compared to the other guys. He's taking the "Yeah, I do it, but those guys are worse" stance.
 
Any extreme is bad, though... extreme polarization is not good for anyone... even if you sympathize with one side. Let's learn at least that from the Rally.
I'm ok with extreme polarization. Stewart even said we have very different ideas. It's the vitriol and the painting people who disagree as un-American, evil, suspicious, dangerous, and unstable that he was trying to get across at the rally and wanted to bring attention to.[/QUOTE]

No, extreme polarization means no compromise, without compromise no one advances. The heart of Stewart's speech is the Lincoln Tunnel analogy... no matter how much you may agree with Olbermann, he's part of the problem. If we were to adapt the pundits to the tunnel analogy, O'Reilly and Olbermann would block the entire tunnel trying to cut each other off and not letting the other one go first, ever.

That is what's hurting the US.
 
I hate the Lincoln tunnel. I've hated it every time I've had to go through it. Thank god I don't commute through it, or I would hate all of humanity by now.
 
Any extreme is bad, though... extreme polarization is not good for anyone... even if you sympathize with one side. Let's learn at least that from the Rally.
I'm ok with extreme polarization. Stewart even said we have very different ideas. It's the vitriol and the painting people who disagree as un-American, evil, suspicious, dangerous, and unstable that he was trying to get across at the rally and wanted to bring attention to.[/QUOTE]

No, extreme polarization means no compromise, without compromise no one advances. The heart of Stewart's speech is the Lincoln Tunnel analogy... no matter how much you may agree with Olbermann, he's part of the problem. If we were to adapt the pundits to the tunnel analogy, O'Reilly and Olbermann would block the entire tunnel trying to cut each other off and not letting the other one go first, ever.

That is what's hurting the US.[/QUOTE]
When did I say I agree with either of them? I don't think you've been reading my posts.
 
Any extreme is bad, though... extreme polarization is not good for anyone... even if you sympathize with one side. Let's learn at least that from the Rally.
I'm ok with extreme polarization. Stewart even said we have very different ideas. It's the vitriol and the painting people who disagree as un-American, evil, suspicious, dangerous, and unstable that he was trying to get across at the rally and wanted to bring attention to.[/QUOTE]

No, extreme polarization means no compromise, without compromise no one advances. The heart of Stewart's speech is the Lincoln Tunnel analogy... no matter how much you may agree with Olbermann, he's part of the problem. If we were to adapt the pundits to the tunnel analogy, O'Reilly and Olbermann would block the entire tunnel trying to cut each other off and not letting the other one go first, ever.

That is what's hurting the US.[/QUOTE]
When did I say I agree with either of them? I don't think you've been reading my posts.[/QUOTE]

I never said you said you did, my post was responding to your "I'm fine with extreme polarization" and "even Jon said we can have different ideas".

You need to brush up on YOUR reading comprehension ;)
 
Sorry, Calleja, I just can't accept that. The idea that there is no compromise because of polarizing views is a near impossibility. Eventually, if there is civil debate and discussion, there will be a breakdown and there will be compromise.

No matter how polarized the views, there will always be a commonality somewhere which can be worked on and expanded on.
 

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Can't say I agree with Maher, because I don't think that's the message Stewart/Colbert were trying to send at all. Close...but I don't think they were saying that both sides were equally to blame at all. After all, they're unabashed liberals.
 
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