[Brazelton] Roe v. Wade
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Would that violate HIPAA?
But what about the sharing it with other non-governmental agencies?
Knew it was going to happen, but now that Roe vs Wade has been overturned, the anti-choice crowd is trying to pile on IVF pretty hard, even calling Ted Cruz a traitor for trying to push legislation to protect IVF.
You know once they get rid of that, contraception will be next. Anything that even thinks of blocking sperm or an egg will be considered murder at the rate this is going.
You know once they get rid of that, contraception will be next. Anything that even thinks of blocking sperm or an egg will be considered murder at the rate this is going.
figmentPez
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I think this has something to do with an intersection between white nationalism / eugenics, and evangelical theology / prosperity gospel. IVF does make more babies, but it's making the wrong kind of babies. It's giving babies to people who, in their eyes, God / natural selection has chosen to reject. From their viewpoint IVF is unnatural and allows weak genes and sinners to procreate, in defiance of the "natural order".
Which is where my mind went to at first, BUT... and I am but a sample on this... the amount of well-off conservatives and IVF users is almost a perfect circle, at least around here, and even some other places, from my experience. Even more bizarre is the Catholic stance on this, where the church says it's a sin (I guess because of the disposal of embryos? to my knowledge?) but the majority of the ones around here have used IVF for 1 or more children. And I get that these people live for the "okay for me, but not for thee!" and "I got mine!" fallacies, but WHY, when you're rallying your party around courting the 1%, would you cut off one of the main ways they have children? A lot of these well-off families have kids later because they make their money first, so why would you stop the way they most likely have to have kids? Or, like with abortion, do they think, "as long as you have money, you can get around those pesky laws"?
The eugenics thing is even more confusing, because in a lot of ways, IVF can (and sometimes is) used for a eugenic purpose. I was reading somewhere that the US is one of the only countries not to outlaw sex selection during IVF, and the process is reported to be at least 15% of all IVF treatments currently.
I find this line of thinking amusing, because if the 1% wants to ensure the survival of 1%er genes, they will only breed with other 1%ers, but European royalty has already shown how that turns out. Meanwhile the historically healthiest demographic is "mutts" with diverse gene pools, which is what you get when the multitudinous rabble doesn't use IVF and instead goes the more traditional route.
--Patrick
Pretty much this. These are people who think The Handmaid’s Tale is an inspirational documentary.
I'm pretty sure he's actually my great great great great [...] grandfather, like everyone else currently alive, but okay.
figmentPez
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Senate Republicans have blocked legislation that would have made it a federal right to access contraception. They claim that the law is unnecessary because Supreme Court precedent already protects that right.
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Analysis Suggests 2021 Texas Abortion Ban Resulted in Increase in Infant Deaths in State in Year After Law Went into Effect
" The researchers’ analysis of monthly death certificate data in Texas and the rest of the United States found that between 2021 and 2022, infant deaths in Texas rose from 1,985 to 2,240, a year-over-year increase of 255 deaths. This corresponds to a 12.9 percent increase in infant deaths in Texas versus a 1.8 percent increase in infant deaths in the rest of the U.S. during the same period. The study defines infants as under 12 months old. "
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"In an analysis of cause of death using all 2021 and 2022 death certificate data, the researchers found that Texas had atypical increases in infant deaths due to congenital anomalies, the leading cause of infant death. Infant deaths attributable to congenital anomalies increased 22.9 percent in Texas between 2021 and 2022 versus a decrease of 3.1 percent in the rest of the U.S. during the same period. Another divergent cause of death pattern in Texas was infant deaths from accidents, which increased by 21 percent in Texas versus a one percent increase in the rest of the U.S. "
" The researchers’ analysis of monthly death certificate data in Texas and the rest of the United States found that between 2021 and 2022, infant deaths in Texas rose from 1,985 to 2,240, a year-over-year increase of 255 deaths. This corresponds to a 12.9 percent increase in infant deaths in Texas versus a 1.8 percent increase in infant deaths in the rest of the U.S. during the same period. The study defines infants as under 12 months old. "
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"In an analysis of cause of death using all 2021 and 2022 death certificate data, the researchers found that Texas had atypical increases in infant deaths due to congenital anomalies, the leading cause of infant death. Infant deaths attributable to congenital anomalies increased 22.9 percent in Texas between 2021 and 2022 versus a decrease of 3.1 percent in the rest of the U.S. during the same period. Another divergent cause of death pattern in Texas was infant deaths from accidents, which increased by 21 percent in Texas versus a one percent increase in the rest of the U.S. "
"Accidents"
figmentPez
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That was my first thought, as well, but I imagine a lot of those are not outright neglect or abuse, and are (possibly preventable) accidents, without quotes. Young, overworked, poor, etc parents are going to do a worse job of watching their children. They're going to have fewer resources to child-proof their home. They're going to get less sleep, have more tasks distracting them, have worse social support structures, and just generally have more conditions where accidents will occur.
But yes, there will also be people with children who should never have had children at all, who use "accidents" to try to get out of the situation. This is a terrible situation in multiple ways.
Less likely to be able to afford an emergency room visit when you're 99% sure they'll be fine in a day or two anyway.
figmentPez
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