[TV] S.H.I.E.L.D.

BananaHands

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Some interesting theories I've seen around the 'net.
1. Bainwashing like Bucky.

2. Going deep cover, Hand not really dead.

3. Part of HYDRA all along, since his training days.

My money is on 2 at the moment, though

the empty stare at the end of the episode could mean brainwashing.
The music they played with that empty stare was just like the music they played post-credits with Bucky.

However, from the interview with Bell and Loeb:
And so if you’d look at how he related to everyone — Coulson loves projects. Here is a guy who didn’t have people skills. So Garrett says, can you help this guy Ward round off some of the rough edges? So he comes onto the team. Coulson is now vested, because he’s got a project. Who is Ward’s greatest threat? May. What does he do? He seduces her. Who is the one unknown on the team? Skye. He becomes her S.O. How do you get everyone rally around and trust you? You jump out of a plane trying to save someone else. Now, he had a parachute. Let’s say he failed to save Simmons, he would’ve been fine. Everything he’s done has solidified how people feel about him over the course of the season.
 
If it helps, this episode is available from ordinary Hulu right now. It doesn't have the week delay that earlier episodes had.
It does help! I was lucky to notice it this morning and watched it. I still don't get why people don't care for the show.
 
Guys, I'm not being silly about the cowbell.

Cowbell is serious business!

Cowbell references the song.
The title of the song is foreshadowing the identity of the big villain.
Who happens to be one of the most iconic villains in Avenger/SHIELD lore.
A villain who's history would make Coulsons trip to Tahiti very interesting.
And a villain who is very well suited to limited special effects budget of a TV series.
By now you all know who I am talking about.
But does this mean we will get the villains brother?
(now do the YES chant people)
 

BananaHands

Staff member
Guys, I'm not being silly about the cowbell.

Cowbell is serious business!

Cowbell references the song.
The title of the song is foreshadowing the identity of the big villain.
Who happens to be one of the most iconic villains in Avenger/SHIELD lore.
A villain who's history would make Coulsons trip to Tahiti very interesting.
And a villain who is very well suited to limited special effects budget of a TV series.
By now you all know who I am talking about.
But does this mean we will get the villains brother?
(now do the YES chant people)
I don't get it. ;-;
 
I'm fairly sure he's talking about
Grim Reaper, who is the brother of Wonder Man. He hasn't seen a lot of use lately save for a sub-boss in Marvel Heroes, but he received a powerup from Ultron, allowing him to force people into near-death comas. He's fought the Avengers on multiple occasions, and forced a few of them into pretty tight spots. He's got a rivalry with Vision, as well.
 
I'm fairly sure he's talking about
Grim Reaper, who is the brother of Wonder Man. He hasn't seen a lot of use lately save for a sub-boss in Marvel Heroes, but he received a powerup from Ultron, allowing him to force people into near-death comas. He's fought the Avengers on multiple occasions, and forced a few of them into pretty tight spots. He's got a rivalry with Vision, as well.
I doubt it. That's another major Avengers villain that I doubt they'd waste on the small screen.
 
I dunno, I mean, you can't save everything for the movies. He's mainly only been in video games lately, and I don't think he's a big enough name to drop into anything coming soon that's related to Ultron or HYDRA (which as of now is pretty much just AoU as far as we know, since Cap 3 is a couple years away).
 
Some interesting theories I've seen around the 'net.
1. Bainwashing like Bucky.

2. Going deep cover, Hand not really dead.

3. Part of HYDRA all along, since his training days.

My money is on 2 at the moment, though

the empty stare at the end of the episode could mean brainwashing.
I re-watched the ep last night with my daughter, and saw Winter Soldier a little while ago. My thoughts...

Ward is deep cover, very end of the episode, the blank stare is broken just before cut to black, he looks straight at the camera. I think that the blank stare is there to make John think that Ward is with him and that earlier efforts to brainwash are still in place.
 
So...
I'm guessing Ward isn't under cover. If he was, why would he give up the location of the gravitonium without even being asked.
 

BananaHands

Staff member
So...
I'm guessing Ward isn't under cover. If he was, why would he give up the location of the gravitonium without even being asked.
Well,
It seems to me that how Fury recruited Coulson right after High School, Garret recruited Ward.
 
Also,

Ward has the Berserker Staff again. If he is really a member of Hydra, he doesn't have to worry about playing the "good" guy anymore. So he can let those bad memories fuel his aggression, and become quite the villain. Lots of possibilities if he stays a bad guy.
[DOUBLEPOST=1397674214,1397674024][/DOUBLEPOST]It might give Sif a reason to make an appearance again too. ;)
 
A little theory.
Remember how I said it's awfully weird how everyone seems to be crazy for Skye? Ward seems to be at the top of that bandwagon right now with all the glances and admissions of wanting to protect her. Well suddenly you find out that SHIELD is corrupted from the inside, and worst yet your own commander who trained you is one of them, showing how deep the tendrils go.

What am I getting at? If he is going under deep cover, he likely is doing it on his own. Skye won't be safe inside SHIELD if Hydra is already this rooted, so he decides the best way to keep her safe is to "join" Hydra and keep an eye on what's happening on the inside, but to do it and make sure John trusts him, so he had to sacrifice Victoria Hand. All so he can protect Skye, the enigma that everyone seems to love.

I really wish they showed a new episode this week, was really interested in seeing what happens next. (wait I am checking the net and it's saying a new episode did occur, but I tuned in at 7 yesterday and it was last weeks. WHAT THE HELL ABC!)
 
I really wish they showed a new episode this week, was really interested in seeing what happens next. (wait I am checking the net and it's saying a new episode did occur, but I tuned in at 7 yesterday and it was last weeks. WHAT THE HELL ABC!)
They aired last week's episode and the new episode back-to-back last night.

Also, it looks like Hulu is back to a week delay for new SHIELD episodes.
 
A little theory.
Remember how I said it's awfully weird how everyone seems to be crazy for Skye? Ward seems to be at the top of that bandwagon right now with all the glances and admissions of wanting to protect her. Well suddenly you find out that SHIELD is corrupted from the inside, and worst yet your own commander who trained you is one of them, showing how deep the tendrils go.

What am I getting at? If he is going under deep cover, he likely is doing it on his own. Skye won't be safe inside SHIELD if Hydra is already this rooted, so he decides the best way to keep her safe is to "join" Hydra and keep an eye on what's happening on the inside, but to do it and make sure John trusts him, so he had to sacrifice Victoria Hand. All so he can protect Skye, the enigma that everyone seems to love.

I really wish they showed a new episode this week, was really interested in seeing what happens next. (wait I am checking the net and it's saying a new episode did occur, but I tuned in at 7 yesterday and it was last weeks. WHAT THE HELL ABC!)
They showed last week's before the new one.
 
They aired last week's episode and the new episode back-to-back last night.

Also, it looks like Hulu is back to a week delay for new SHIELD episodes.
Yeah, which really sucks. they already add a crap ton of commercials. Not paying extra to STILL have commercials and get current shows a week early. What a shit model.
 
I finally saw the episode. My old theory is pretty much bunk, looks like...

Ward has been deep cover the whole time. I admit that is a pretty big twist.
 
It looks like they are doing posters for each episode through the rest of the season.

Here is the poster for next week's episode "The Only Light in The Darkness"

Previous Posters:
 
I like how the writers are basically making fun of all the critiques about the show's first half. Skyes real name being Mary Sue was great.
 
Well, Cap 2 definitely injected a much needed adrenaline boost to the show.

Bummed that Agent Oswalt bit it, I was enjoying him.
 
I'm a week behind. Stupid Hulu. Stupid me for clicking spoilers.
That was a big one too...

I'm a bit worried this show may fall into the trap of only having one story to tell, which is the fall of Shield. The shows before this started were fairly dull, and while entertaining, nothing to bother with. Hopefully they have something more once this is all sorted out. With all the other marvel properties they have coming out, they have a good platform to supplement the movies.
 
Well, with

Maria Hill next week, and Fury in the season finale, I would imagine there's big things coming in season 2. Guess we'll see.
 
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