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So, Projared, huh?
#2
Celt Z
Celt Z
Ah. So he's using the Whedon definition of "feminist".
Such a scumbag. And won't be shocked if something comes out about the Peanutbutter-dude.
Such a scumbag. And won't be shocked if something comes out about the Peanutbutter-dude.
#3
Frank
Frank
Ew, Ian Miles Cheong is right about something. I fucking want off of this world.
#4
Dave
Dave
I have no idea who this guy is and - if I may be blunt - if I looked like him I'd so not be sending nudes.
#5
LittleSin
LittleSin
I've been following him since he was on Screw Attack. He always seemed like a nice dude. Then again, I thought that about JewWario and we all saw where that went.
Fuck. The dudes I admire and made me feel pretty good are scum bags. -_-
Fuck. The dudes I admire and made me feel pretty good are scum bags. -_-
#6
figmentPez
figmentPez
I've been watching ProJared's videos for a while. He's pretty fun to watch when he's gaming. I didn't pay any attention to his social media, though. I'll definitely be unsubscribing from his channels after reading Heidi's tweets.
I'm not sure how I feel about Holly Conrad, though. Having an affair with a married man is shitty, but not grooming-underage-fans shitty.
EDIT: She's denying it and defending him. Unfollowing her in support of all the women coming forward.
I'm not sure how I feel about Holly Conrad, though. Having an affair with a married man is shitty, but not grooming-underage-fans shitty.
EDIT: She's denying it and defending him. Unfollowing her in support of all the women coming forward.
#7
figmentPez
figmentPez
Also, I guess this means that Wizards of the Coast now has a bigger toxic asshole to deal with now than teh Kurtz.
#8
LittleSin
LittleSin
Oh shit. Is PJ still doing MTG things for them?Also, I guess this means that Wizards of the Coast now has a bigger toxic asshole to deal with now than teh Kurtz.
#9
figmentPez
figmentPez
I don't know about Magic the Gathering, but he's scheduled to be on D&D Live May 17th.Oh shit. Is PJ still doing MTG things for them?
#10
Ravenpoe
Ravenpoe
I'm not sure which is worse, ProJared turning out to be such a scumbag, or all the anti-feminist scumbags using this story to denounce feminism because ProJared called himself a feminist.
#12
figmentPez
figmentPez
ProJared's main YouTube account has lost nearly 50,000 followers today, putting him below the million subscriber mark.
#13
LittleSin
Now, JonTron has apologized, moved on, and will not even look in politics direction anymore. I reluctantly started following again and have been pleasantly surprised.
Hard to put a dick back in the box though...especially when it's been sent to underaged girls.
LittleSin
I, personally, like everyone using it to justify JonTrons racist comments a few years back.I'm not sure which is worse, ProJared turning out to be such a scumbag, or all the anti-feminist scumbags using this story to denounce feminism because ProJared called himself a feminist.
Now, JonTron has apologized, moved on, and will not even look in politics direction anymore. I reluctantly started following again and have been pleasantly surprised.
Hard to put a dick back in the box though...especially when it's been sent to underaged girls.
#14
figmentPez
figmentPez
Speaking of him, think about how PushingUpRoses must feel about this, since she knew and worked with both ProJared and JewWario...Then again, I thought that about JewWario and we all saw where that went.
#15
LittleSin
LittleSin
Uuuuuuuuugh. I can only imagine.Speaking of him, think about how PushingUpRoses must feel about this, since she knew and worked with both ProJared and JewWario...
#16
Cheesy1
Cheesy1
Aaaand unsubscribed. I also wish I could delete that photo from the linked article from my brain. 
#17
Frank
Frank
Just be lucky he didn't post the actual dick pic.
#18
figmentPez
figmentPez
NormalBoots, a collective of various gaming YouTube channels, has parted ways with ProJared:
I'm expecting a similar announcement from Wizards of the Coast at some point in the future.
I'm expecting a similar announcement from Wizards of the Coast at some point in the future.
#19
Frank
Frank
Yeah, I feel for people invested in the Waffle Crew because that's fucking DOOOOOONE for sure.
#20
Frank
Frank
OOPS. Guess he was grooming 15 year olds and the proof has been passed on to the authorities.
ProJailtime
ProJailtime
#21
figmentPez
figmentPez
#22
figmentPez
figmentPez
Letter from Miss Editor
Hey everyone! Miss Editor here. Many of you have been concerned about me, so I wanted to respond.
First, my identity: I’m Cheratomo - Cara. Hello! I’m a writer, game developer, and casual streamer. Some of you may know me as one of the people behind Asagao.
Second, my job: no, I will no longer be working as Miss Editor. My friends are helping me to find a new job, so hopefully I should have a better situation before long.
Third: I really liked this job. I liked making people laugh, I liked reading the comments, I liked the community here. I am very sad to be leaving. So I wanted to say, thank you for everything. It was nice working with you.
If you ever want to stop by my stream and say hi, you’d be welcome, but please don’t bring this situation into my personal work. This has been very difficult for me, so I won’t be commenting on it further.
o-o7
#23
GasBandit
GasBandit
I met ProJared at SGC 2010 back when he was still going by "Jared the Professional." He did seem like a little bit of a dick. Honestly a lot of the ScrewAttack crew did. I had an unbroken chain of victories (something like 70) playing SoulCalibur in the arcade they'd set up that only ended when I could no longer hold my bladder, and while I wasn't looking for attention or anything, somebody else went and pointed it out to one of the ScrewAttack bigwigs (I forget his name but everybody fawned over him) to look, and he came over, watched for 2 seconds and dismissively said "Eh, he's just cheesing Nightmare" making sure to say it loud enough for me and everyone else to hear, and went about his business. I mean, I wasn't expecting a trophy or anything... but if you're running a con for your fans, maybe you should remember to put effort into not being a dick. He could have just said "cool" and moved on. Having worked a number of events for the radio station, the lack of professionalism really stood out to me. When you go to Disneyland, and are going about your day, you're not expecting Goofy to come up behind you and tell you your shirt looks stupid or something, right?
Here's just hoping Brentalfloss and Nathan "Keith Apicary" Barnatt don't turn out to be closet nazis or anything. They were the highlight of ScrewAttack for me back in the day.
Here's just hoping Brentalfloss and Nathan "Keith Apicary" Barnatt don't turn out to be closet nazis or anything. They were the highlight of ScrewAttack for me back in the day.
I was one of JonTron's defenders through his controversy... ironically, I'm finding I don't really enjoy his recent content as much as his old videos, and have started skipping him when he comes up in my subscription feed :/Now, JonTron has apologized, moved on, and will not even look in politics direction anymore. I reluctantly started following again and have been pleasantly surprised.
#24
AshburnerX
AshburnerX
When did JonTron apologize? I only saw his hamfisted attempt to evade the issue and blame it on SJWs a few years back.I, personally, like everyone using it to justify JonTrons racist comments a few years back.
Now, JonTron has apologized, moved on, and will not even look in politics direction anymore. I reluctantly started following again and have been pleasantly surprised.
Hard to put a dick back in the box though...especially when it's been sent to underaged girls.
#25
figmentPez
figmentPez
And the drama exploded again today. Apparently Jared couldn't stand having other people get attention at the D&D Live event he was originally scheduled to be at, so he made a complete non-apology that was just a thinly-veiled excuse to attack Heidi again. I hope this latest tweet comes back to bite him in the ass when he faces legal repercussions for sexting underage girls.
#26
LittleSin
LittleSin
Uuuuuuuugh.
#28
Ravenpoe
Ravenpoe
Given how many pieces of evidence point to ProJared being a gaslighting asshole, it doesn't surprise me that Holly thinks this.
#29
Frank
Frank
There are literally teenagers who've passed their interactions with him to the FBI. Some who went through Holly and she immediately went to Jared with the information and coerced personal information from them so he had an easier time getting them to clam up.
#30
Frank
Frank
Oh, you can just look at Heidi's twitter. She has receipts on all of Holly's stuff. She's taking no shit from them.
#31
Frank
I don't think she's very smart.
Frank
I don't think she's very smart.
#32
figmentPez
Oh, and he had the perfect way to form a sexual relationship with someone who is the type of asexual that Holly appears to be. (Asexuality comes in many varieties. Those who have no sex drive at all. Those who are repulsed by sexuality. Those who have a sex drive, but feel no sexual attraction to others. Etc. Etc. Etc.) Jared had erotic fanart and fanfic of their two characters to allow his proxy to get it on with her proxy, and then get her to switch that bond from fiction to reality. He probably pushed her boundaries slowly over the course of months. If she'd never managed to have a sexual bond with Ross, then that really fucking complicates the situation, and would go a long way to explaining why she's defending ProJared to such an irrational degree.
But enough speculation on Holly's mental state.
The whole "Heidi turned Jared's friends against him" doesn't hold water in light of PBGamer's reaction. "This aint it chief" flipped over to "I'm sorry, I spoke before hearing from NormalBoots's lawyer. I'd been told a lot of wrong things by Jared over the years", that doesn't jive with the narrative of him being manipulated by Holly for a long time before this all became public.
figmentPez
Well, she's doing really dumb things, but she's likely been manipulated and abused, too. Total armchair psychology here, but she has a history of cutting, which suggests she's had some history of trauma or abuse, and she previously described herself as asexual until Jared. I could absolutely be wrong, but it really seems like Jared found Holly to be an ideal victim. He's been crafting Holly's perception of Heidi for years. None of that excuses her behavior, but hopefully it means she can come to her senses at some point.I don't think she's very smart.
Oh, and he had the perfect way to form a sexual relationship with someone who is the type of asexual that Holly appears to be. (Asexuality comes in many varieties. Those who have no sex drive at all. Those who are repulsed by sexuality. Those who have a sex drive, but feel no sexual attraction to others. Etc. Etc. Etc.) Jared had erotic fanart and fanfic of their two characters to allow his proxy to get it on with her proxy, and then get her to switch that bond from fiction to reality. He probably pushed her boundaries slowly over the course of months. If she'd never managed to have a sexual bond with Ross, then that really fucking complicates the situation, and would go a long way to explaining why she's defending ProJared to such an irrational degree.
But enough speculation on Holly's mental state.
The whole "Heidi turned Jared's friends against him" doesn't hold water in light of PBGamer's reaction. "This aint it chief" flipped over to "I'm sorry, I spoke before hearing from NormalBoots's lawyer. I'd been told a lot of wrong things by Jared over the years", that doesn't jive with the narrative of him being manipulated by Holly for a long time before this all became public.
#33
Frank
It takes some real mental gymnastics to post those two posts back to back without ANY kind of self realization. I was just being flippant and reductive.
Frank
I literally meant going from saying Heidi is full of shit for claiming to stay with an abuser for so long to LITERALLY the next tweet saying that it's very difficult to leave an abuser and poor Jared.Well, she's doing really dumb things, but she's likely been manipulated and abused, too. Total armchair psychology here, but she has a history of cutting, which suggests she's had some history of trauma or abuse, and she previously described herself as asexual until Jared. I could absolutely be wrong, but it really seems like Jared found Holly to be an ideal victim. He's been crafting Holly's perception of Heidi for years. None of that excuses her behavior, but hopefully it means she can come to her senses at some point.
Oh, and he had the perfect way to form a sexual relationship with someone who is the type of asexual that Holly appears to be. (Asexuality comes in many varieties. Those who have no sex drive at all. Those who are repulsed by sexuality. Those who have a sex drive, but feel no sexual attraction to others. Etc. Etc. Etc.) Jared had erotic fanart and fanfic of their two characters to allow his proxy to get it on with her proxy, and then get her to switch that bond from fiction to reality. He probably pushed her boundaries slowly over the course of months. If she'd never managed to have a sexual bond with Ross, then that really fucking complicates the situation, and would go a long way to explaining why she's defending ProJared to such an irrational degree.
But enough speculation on Holly's mental state.
The whole "Heidi turned Jared's friends against him" doesn't hold water in light of PBGamer's reaction. "This aint it chief" flipped over to "I'm sorry, I spoke before hearing from NormalBoots's lawyer. I'd been told a lot of wrong things by Jared over the years", that doesn't jive with the narrative of him being manipulated by Holly for a long time before this all became public.
It takes some real mental gymnastics to post those two posts back to back without ANY kind of self realization. I was just being flippant and reductive.
#34
Fun Size
Fun Size
As someone who had no idea who ProJared was before this thread (even though he sometimes guests on the C-team), I find this narrative you've constructed deeply disturbing and look forward to the episode of Black Mirror that is eventual based on it.Well, she's doing really dumb things, but she's likely been manipulated and abused, too. Total armchair psychology here, but she has a history of cutting, which suggests she's had some history of trauma or abuse, and she previously described herself as asexual until Jared. I could absolutely be wrong, but it really seems like Jared found Holly to be an ideal victim. He's been crafting Holly's perception of Heidi for years. None of that excuses her behavior, but hopefully it means she can come to her senses at some point.
Oh, and he had the perfect way to form a sexual relationship with someone who is the type of asexual that Holly appears to be. (Asexuality comes in many varieties. Those who have no sex drive at all. Those who are repulsed by sexuality. Those who have a sex drive, but feel no sexual attraction to others. Etc. Etc. Etc.) Jared had erotic fanart and fanfic of their two characters to allow his proxy to get it on with her proxy, and then get her to switch that bond from fiction to reality. He probably pushed her boundaries slowly over the course of months. If she'd never managed to have a sexual bond with Ross, then that really fucking complicates the situation, and would go a long way to explaining why she's defending ProJared to such an irrational degree.
But enough speculation on Holly's mental state.
The whole "Heidi turned Jared's friends against him" doesn't hold water in light of PBGamer's reaction. "This aint it chief" flipped over to "I'm sorry, I spoke before hearing from NormalBoots's lawyer. I'd been told a lot of wrong things by Jared over the years", that doesn't jive with the narrative of him being manipulated by Holly for a long time before this all became public.
#35
Ravenpoe
Ravenpoe
I actually fully agree with you, from what little I know of Holly Conrad, her actions fit with that sort of manipulation. But while I have sympathy, I'm also fully fine with people raking her over the coals for her actions, because at the end of the day we all need to be responsible for the things we say and do. (Not saying you tried to defend her, I know you didn't)Well, she's doing really dumb things, but she's likely been manipulated and abused, too. Total armchair psychology here, but she has a history of cutting, which suggests she's had some history of trauma or abuse, and she previously described herself as asexual until Jared. I could absolutely be wrong, but it really seems like Jared found Holly to be an ideal victim. He's been crafting Holly's perception of Heidi for years. None of that excuses her behavior, but hopefully it means she can come to her senses at some point.
Oh, and he had the perfect way to form a sexual relationship with someone who is the type of asexual that Holly appears to be. (Asexuality comes in many varieties. Those who have no sex drive at all. Those who are repulsed by sexuality. Those who have a sex drive, but feel no sexual attraction to others. Etc. Etc. Etc.) Jared had erotic fanart and fanfic of their two characters to allow his proxy to get it on with her proxy, and then get her to switch that bond from fiction to reality. He probably pushed her boundaries slowly over the course of months. If she'd never managed to have a sexual bond with Ross, then that really fucking complicates the situation, and would go a long way to explaining why she's defending ProJared to such an irrational degree.
But enough speculation on Holly's mental state.
The whole "Heidi turned Jared's friends against him" doesn't hold water in light of PBGamer's reaction. "This aint it chief" flipped over to "I'm sorry, I spoke before hearing from NormalBoots's lawyer. I'd been told a lot of wrong things by Jared over the years", that doesn't jive with the narrative of him being manipulated by Holly for a long time before this all became public.
#36
Frank
Frank
I made the mistake of shitting on someone's take about how bad they feel for EVERYONE in Dice, Camera, Action on the Wizard's twitter account saying the show was on indefinite hiatus. Look at my twitter a few hours later and see that I have triple digit notifications.
UGGGGGGGGH.
Fans are the worst.
I see the narrative of the D&D campaign fans has shifted to all of the accusations are unfounded and Heidi is a lying evil slut who lied and is an evil slut. Also, because there's a post where she admitted to fantasizing about ruining Dice, Camera, Action, obviously she's the worst person that ever lived.
WHO COULD IMAGINE SOMEONE FANTASIZING ABOUT RUINING THE ACTIVITY THAT DIRECTLY LED TO THEIR MARRIAGE FALLING APART? Impossible. She's a lying evil slut who evilly lies.
UGGGGGGGGH.
Fans are the worst.
I see the narrative of the D&D campaign fans has shifted to all of the accusations are unfounded and Heidi is a lying evil slut who lied and is an evil slut. Also, because there's a post where she admitted to fantasizing about ruining Dice, Camera, Action, obviously she's the worst person that ever lived.
WHO COULD IMAGINE SOMEONE FANTASIZING ABOUT RUINING THE ACTIVITY THAT DIRECTLY LED TO THEIR MARRIAGE FALLING APART? Impossible. She's a lying evil slut who evilly lies.
#37
Bubble181
Bubble181
Does she lie sluttily, or evilly?I made the mistake of shitting on someone's take about how bad they feel for EVERYONE in Dice, Camera, Action on the Wizard's twitter account saying the show was on indefinite hiatus. Look at my twitter a few hours later and see that I have triple digit notifications.
UGGGGGGGGH.
Fans are the worst.
I see the narrative of the D&D campaign fans has shifted to all of the accusations are unfounded and Heidi is a lying evil slut who lied and is an evil slut. Also, because there's a post where she admitted to fantasizing about ruining Dice, Camera, Action, obviously she's the worst person that ever lived.
WHO COULD IMAGINE SOMEONE FANTASIZING ABOUT RUINING THE ACTIVITY THAT DIRECTLY LED TO THEIR MARRIAGE FALLING APART? Impossible. She's a lying evil slut who evilly lies.
#39
PatrThom
PatrThom
#40
Bones
Bones
jesus, I really enjoyed his videos but I am not going near anyone that comes out that slimy. I get it everyone is a bit slimy, but there is a line even for me upon where I can stomach >_>
#41
figmentPez
figmentPez
ProJared's main Youtube channel has now lost 250,000 subscribers, nearly a quarter of his peak subscribers. His Let's Play channel has lost 90,000 subscribers, about 30% of its peak number.
#42
figmentPez
figmentPez
Congrats to Wizards of the Coast on cutting ties with an abusive asshole. Dice Camera Action is no more, and the two players not joining the new show are Jared and Holly.