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So, what's the census on the console wars at this point?

Dec 16, 2014#1

Terrik

So, apparently I'm getting a game console for Christmas. No one can afford to spring for a new PC, let alone me, so I'm going to end up getting a console and join the peasants for a while. I know some of you have one of more of these, so I'm wondering how it all stacks up, now that the stuff's been out for a while.

I'm leaning towards a PS4, although I kind of want the Halo collection because I largely missed out on the series. I know I'd like the Wii U, but pretty much *only* for Nintendo titles alone, which, while nice, probably doesn't justify buying the system. I guess my real question is, did the Xbox One ever get better after the largely disastrous launch? PS4 still most people's opinion on the console peasant system to get, if one had to get one?

Dec 16, 2014#2

Ravenpoe

I personally would get a PS4, if I couldn't have my PC, but it really just depends on preference. The PS4 is technically more powerful than the xbone, but that doesn't always mean games will play better on it, especially if the developer fucks shit up (ubisoft). So it really comes down to which has the better exclusives, and possibly which has the online service you want to use the most. The PS4 won't do you much good if all your friends are using xbox live (though it should make you question whether you want them as friends).

Dec 16, 2014#3

Hailey Knight

PS4 will be getting No Man's Sky.

End of presentation.

Dec 16, 2014#4

PatrThom

I have no dog in this fight.

--Patrick

Dec 16, 2014#5

figmentPez

The two most important things when buying a console:

1. Which has the games you want to play?
2. Which one are your friends playing on? (if you want multiplayer, or will borrow games)

Advanced question:
3. Why aren't you getting a gaming PC? (Not rhetorical, there are valid reasons to get a console, just know what they are.)

Dec 16, 2014#6

PatrThom

figmentPez said:
3. Why aren't you getting a gaming PC? (Not rhetorical, there are valid reasons to get a console, just know what they are.)

Terrik said:
No one can afford to spring for a new PC, let alone me, so I'm going to end up getting a console and join the peasants for a while.

Really, the absolute minimum entry price for a decent "gaming" PC is right around the cost of a current-gen console, and I don't for one minute think that's coincidence.

--Patrick

Dec 16, 2014#7

Terrik

figmentPez said:
The two most important things when buying a console:

1. Which has the games you want to play?
2. Which one are your friends playing on? (if you want multiplayer, or will borrow games)

Advanced question:
3. Why aren't you getting a gaming PC? (Not rhetorical, there are valid reasons to get a console, just know what they are.)

I'm sure they both will have games I want, and to be honest, most games are released on both consoles. I do want to kind of play Halo, but, I suppose that's a minor thing. As for friends, I've been away too long and have no idea what they play, so it doesn't really matter. I just looked at the coming exclusives for both and nothing really jumps out at me. I have a hunch PS4 will come through though...a lot of tech sites are still putting money on the PS4. Maybe that's what I'll ask for,

Also, a good gaming PC is going to cost me more than a console will. I like my gaming rigs to last a while, and I'm not going to be happy with a barebones system. Also, I'm not paying for this anyhow and It's going to be a gift so, eh.

Dec 17, 2014#8

Frank

Go for the one with the exclusives that interest you.

PS4 has Street Fighter 5 now, apparently forever. Xbox has Tomb Raider (though they admitted that one is timed) and each has their first party games.

In my opinion, both consoles are hot garbage currently until both companies get their heads out of their asses and give the consoles at least a fraction of the functionality the previous gen consoles had.

The only one worth buying is the Wii-U because it has the best exclusives.

Dec 17, 2014#9

Hailey Knight

No Man's Sky is PS4 and eventually PC. No word on Xbox. Non-exclusives that are gold in my book are Shadow of Mordor and Evolve comes out in February, but these are/will be available on Xbox and PC.

Frank said:
The only one worth buying is the Wii-U because it has the best exclusives.

He didn't sound too interested in going that route. However, if we're supposed to change his mind--the Wii U has really come along since even a year ago and has a few solid titles at this point that no other console has or will ever have:

- The Wonderful 101
- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
- Pikmin 3
- Super Mario 3D World
- Mario Kart 8
- Bayonetta 2 (which comes with the first game as well)
- Super Smash Bros Wii U

And then to come in 2015:

- Splatoon
- New Star Fox
- New Zelda

And that's just what we know about, since Nintendo has that fun thing where they tell us about a game only a few months before it comes out. Plus there are some cool indie exclusive games, the VC has SNES and GBA games. Wii U was our next-gen purchase, what we thought was going to be our only next-gen purchase, and we had no regrets. Just by luck that we got a PS4 recently, but the Wii U was my first and almost only choice.

If you might just get a gaming rig PC later, you might as well get a Wii U now since a lot of the next-gen games for PS4/Xbox will also be available on PC. The Wii U's exclusives will always be Nintendo exclusives.

Dec 17, 2014#10

Terrik

I'll be perfectly honest--I'm not really considering the Wii U pretty much because the Wii bit me in the ass last time. I remember buying the Wii so I could play the new Zelda and Mario Galaxy. And I did. And that was about it. Then there was nothing but endless amounts of shovelware titles. NOTHING BUT SHOVELWARE TITLES. After I got my fill of Mario and Zelda, I pretty much never touched the console again.

The problem I have with Nintendo is that as much as I ABSOLUTELY LOVE their exclusive titles, they don't seem to offer much beyond that.

As a current student, the chances of me getting a new PC gaming rig anytime soon is pretty slim, which is why I'm looking at the PS4/Xbox route because I still want to play these games.

I still love you, Nintendo

Dec 17, 2014#11

Terrik

Actually the more I read into this, the more I think you guys are right. Maybe I ought to really consider a Wii U.

Dec 17, 2014#12

Celt Z

I've tired both the PS4 and the WiiU. (Our friend lent us his WiiU while he was away.) We had a lot if fun playing with the WiiU and the fact that with its portable screen feature, Mr. Z could play Mario Cart while I was playing a game on the PS4. However, we discovered that we couldn't play movies on the WiiU. If you're looking for a multifunction systhem with a lot of game options, I think the PS4 is the better investment. However, in terms of available titles and functions, I'd rather have a WiiU than an Xbox One. We haven't had an Xbox since the original and the only thing Mr. Z misses is Halo. Even at the times we had all the systems, or even when we had the Wii and PS2/3, we find ourselves using the Playstation the most.

Dec 17, 2014#13

Dei

I will always be a Nintendo fangirl, and having two kids that don't play realistic violent video games (including a 12 year old boy) made my console choice an easy one.

Dec 17, 2014#14

Dave

Who won the console wars? PC.

Dec 17, 2014#15

Ravenpoe

I didn't mention this because Terrik specifically said he had no interest in the Wii-U, but the only console I personally would buy is a Wii-U. It's the only console that offers me something I can't get from pc.

Though, if I could only have one, I'd still probably go with PS4.

Dec 17, 2014#16

Terrik

Ravenpoe said:
I didn't mention this because Terrik specifically said he had no interest in the Wii-U, but the only console I personally would buy is a Wii-U. It's the only console that offers me something I can't get from pc.

Though, if I could only have one, I'd still probably go with PS4.

Ironically, after my research, I might end up going with a Wii-U. I think you guys are right...I looked at a bunch of exclusives for PS4 and Xbox and nothing really shines, but you know what nintendo will put out will be good.

Dec 17, 2014#17

GasBandit

I'm naturally still hard in the PC camp.. but if I had to buy a console, I think at this point it'd be a Wii U. Of all the console stuff I've seen, the games on Wii U appeal to me most (probably because everything the other two do is done better on PC).

Dec 17, 2014#18

Terrik

Belive me, all I want is a new PC. I can't afford it and no one is willin to gift one for Christmas. They are willing to gift a game console.

Dec 17, 2014#19

Piotyr

Has anyone else mentioned that Hyrule Warriors is pretty much the best co-op game available ? Still playing it every day with my 7 year old.

Dec 17, 2014#20

Terrik

You guys win

Dec 17, 2014#21

Piotyr

No, sir, I believe you win.

Dec 17, 2014#22

GasBandit

I wanna come over to your house and play Nintendo. Like I did with the neighbor kids when I was 7.

Dec 17, 2014#23

Dei

My son kicks my ass at Smash Brothers. I feel this is fine since he's a 12 year old boy who spent two months playing Brawl in anticipation of the release, but STILL. At least he's a reliable console co-op partner, unlike my daughter.

Dec 17, 2014#24

Hailey Knight

Piotyr said:
Has anyone else mentioned that Hyrule Warriors is pretty much the best co-op game available ? Still playing it every day with my 7 year old.

Totally forgot about Hyrule Warriors. Consider that on the list as well.

Terrik said:
You guys win

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Dec 17, 2014#25

Terrik

So If I've previously added you from the 3DS, I should already have you on my Wii U list? Also, I'm probably gonna have to shelve this until Christmas, cause tradition.

Dec 17, 2014#26

Hailey Knight

Terrik said:
So If I've previously added you from the 3DS, I should already have you on my Wii U list? Also, I'm probably gonna have to shelve this until Christmas, cause tradition.

You'll need our codes to your Wii U, but I believe the numbers are the same.

Dec 17, 2014#27

Dei

The Wii U uses the Nintendo ID, which is not the same as the 3DS friend code, even if both are linked.

Dec 17, 2014#28

AshburnerX

Zero Esc said:

Dec 17, 2014#29

Terrik

Zero Esc said:
You'll need our codes to your Wii U, but I believe the numbers are the same.

Well, I'll try adding you guys with the codes you gave me in the smash bros thread.

Dec 17, 2014#30

Dei

Use the Nintendo IDs from the Mario kart thread

Dec 17, 2014#31

Terrik

Dei said:
Use the Nintendo IDs from the Mario kart thread

Right. Got it.

Dec 17, 2014#32

Hailey Knight

Yeah, listen to Dei and ignore that shit I said. I don't think I've added anyone since Mario Kart 8 released in May, hence why I probably forgot. But once you've got your Wii U number up, I'll add you.

Dec 19, 2014#33

Terrik

So...

I took back the Wii U and got a PS4.

I wasn't feeling it. I can't afford a new PC and Im only being gifted a console. Since a lot of the games I want to play, like Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, etc are coming out on PS4...I had to go with the PS4. Mario Kart and Smash bros were fun, but not fun to play by myself. I needed a console system that could be played more comfortably alone. Truth be told, I'm only really interested in Zelda, and maybe when that comes out, I'll get a Wii U, but I couldnt have a Wii U as my only system and feel satisfied.

I had the exact same feeling when the Wii came out.

Dec 19, 2014#34

Dave

You can also play Blu-Ray discs on the PS4.

Dec 19, 2014#35

PatrThom

Dave said:
You can also play Blu-Ray discs on the PS4.

This is the reason most people finally decide on a PS4.

--Patrick

Dec 19, 2014#36

Bowielee

Just to throw this out there, Wonderful 101 is an excellent game as well. So is Pikman 3.[DOUBLEPOST=1419013697,1419013592][/DOUBLEPOST]That being said, I'm part of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race, so any console I get is for exclusives only, and in that regard Nintendo wins every time.

Dec 19, 2014#37

Terrik

Bowielee said:
Just to throw this out there, Wonderful 101 is an excellent game as well. So is Pikman 3.[DOUBLEPOST=1419013697,1419013592][/DOUBLEPOST]That being said, I'm part of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race, so any console I get is for exclusives only, and in that regard Nintendo wins every time.

Which is why Ill get a Wii U again once I have an upgraded PC. Until then, Im sure as hell not missing out on Witcher 3.

Dec 19, 2014#38

Bowielee

Terrik said:
Which is why Ill get a Wii U again once I have an upgraded PC. Until then, Im sure as hell not missing out on Witcher 3.

I was mostly saying that I understand why you would get one of the BIG TWO consoles if you can't get a good gaming PC.

Dec 19, 2014#39

Terrik

Indeed. I accept my temporary peasant status.

Dec 19, 2014#40

Tinwhistler

PatrThom said:
This is the reason most people finally decide on a PS4.

--Patrick

ps4 doesn't stream via DLNA, which is the reason my house is full of Roku 3's now.

Dec 19, 2014#41

GasBandit

PatrThom said:
This is the reason most people finally decide on a PS4.

--Patrick

Well, E3 also didn't help Microsoft's case, even if they did go into full backpedal mode after that.

Dec 19, 2014#42

PatrThom

Tinwhistler said:
ps4 doesn't stream via DLNA, which is the reason my house is full of Roku 3's now.

Most people don't even know what DLNA or XMBC are, which is why so many PS4's get sold.

--Patrick

Dec 19, 2014#43

Bowielee

Hey guys... Blu-Ray players are super cheap now...

FYI.

Dec 19, 2014#44

PatrThom

I wonder why. :rolleyes:

--Patrick

Dec 19, 2014#45

Tinwhistler

PatrThom said:
Most people don't even know what DLNA or XMBC are, which is why so many PS4's get sold.

--Patrick

No doubt...but it didn't do the one thing I needed, whereas the PS3 did. And since the PS3s didn't come down in price once the PS4 came out, I went into research mode and learned about the Roku. Bought 4 of those, instead. My lost sales (probably would've bought a couple) probably didn't add up to all that much in the grand scheme of things.

Dec 19, 2014#46

Bowielee

PatrThom said:
I wonder why.

--Patrick

Yeah, digital media is where it's at. But what I mean is that having Blu-ray capability isn't really a good selling point like it was with the PS3.

Dec 19, 2014#47

Hailey Knight

I still wish the PS4 was backwards compatible so I could sell the PS3. The current streaming games aren't terrible, but the selection is still lacking, plus they're only for rent, not to purchase. Maybe someday.

Dec 19, 2014#48

Celt Z

Zero Esc said:
I still wish the PS4 was backwards compatible so I could sell the PS3. The current streaming games aren't terrible, but the selection is still lacking, plus they're only for rent, not to purchase. Maybe someday.

So much THIS. We can't get rid of our PS3 because there are still some games we play on it.

Dec 19, 2014#49

Bowielee

My PS+ renewal is coming up and I'm still unsure if I want to cancel it or not... I'll lose all my free games if I do, but most of those I already own on steam

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