Spider-Man 4 swinging into theaters May 2011? No, Never. Raimi out, reboot time

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Bowielee

Bowielee

Well, if they're going the "gritty" direction, maybe Shego will get her wish about Carnage. Course, they'll probably turn him into a regular serial killer who paints his face.
 
bhamv3

bhamv3

Grittier?

I was hoping the new Spidey would be as mouthy and quippy as the comic version, but I guess that won't happen now.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

bhamv3 said:
Grittier?

I was hoping the new Spidey would be as mouthy and quippy as the comic version, but I guess that won't happen now.
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Spidey without quips isn't Spidey. Carnage would be hard to set up right off the bat also, even the Ultimate version needs Venom and Gwen Stacy set up first.
 
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WolfOfOdin

If they have to make this, I say go with Scorpion. I could see him being either an army experiment gone horrifically wrong or, as in the comics, J.J's attempt at 'manufacturing' a spider-man for himself. Of course, I'd want to see Scorpion as a person fused into a horrific, nightmarish powered armor/exoskeleton, with flesh stretched over a robotic skull in a permanent rictus of insane rage, pain and hate
 
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WolfOfOdin

No no, I want Mac Gargan, dirt-bag PI who will do anything for a buck as Scorpion. I just want him to go on an obscene rampage. I want to see him impaling cars with his tail and chucking them at Spidey, or melting civilians with acid. I want to see a villain who's bat-shit crazy
 
Frank

Frank

Do you know who's a better Venom than Eddie Brock ever was? Mac Gargan. Damn he's rad.

Otherwise known as, I couldn't agree more with you sir.
 
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WolfOfOdin

I'm on the fence with Scorpo-Venom. They're trying to make him a little too "RAWRRAWRKILLKILL" for my liking. I liked the original characterization, where the Symbiont was clearly the dominate mind in the picture, and Mac was stark fucking terrified of it.
 
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wana10

so the new movie starts with maguire and dunst in a room with peter fonda...
 
Frank

Frank

WolfOfOdin said:
I'm on the fence with Scorpo-Venom. They're trying to make him a little too "RAWRRAWRKILLKILL" for my liking. I liked the original characterization, where the Symbiont was clearly the dominate mind in the picture, and Mac was stark fucking terrified of it.
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Yeah, I haven't read a lot of comics in a couple of years. I didn't know they had changed that.
 
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Bleh. Gritty totally violates the spirit of Spider-Man. It can be dark, but not gritty.

Also, I liked carnage. He was just totally sick.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Spider-Man with quips can still be gritty, I'd imagine. If the quips are more black humor or something I guess. I'm not gonna bury this movie until I see it. I love Spider-Man, and don't mind seeing it go in different directions.
 
Espy

Espy

Charlie Dont Surf said:
Spider-Man with quips can still be gritty, I'd imagine. If the quips are more black humor or something I guess. I'm not gonna bury this movie until I see it. I love Spider-Man, and don't mind seeing it go in different directions.
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Let the record of Clown Court show that I agree with the above statement your honor.
 
Shannow

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link seemed down, here is Sony's press release for those who didnt see it (this is from chud):

UPDATED AGAIN: Here's Sony's press release. Teenaged Spidey all over again. We're sure to get the origin again, especially since they're going to want to connect Spider-Man tightly with Venom. Fuckers. And it will, of course, be 3D.

Culver City, CA (January 11, 2010) -- Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager grappling with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises.

The new chapter in the Spider-Man franchise produced by Columbia, Marvel Studios and Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin, will have a new cast and filmmaking team. Spider-Man 4 was to have been released in 2011, but had not yet gone into production.

“A decade ago we set out on this journey with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and together we made three Spider-Man films that set a new bar for the genre. When we began, no one ever imagined that we would make history at the box-office and now we have a rare opportunity to make history once again with this franchise. Peter Parker as an ordinary young adult grappling with extraordinary powers has always been the foundation that has made this character so timeless and compelling for generations of fans. We’re very excited about the creative possibilities that come from returning to Peter's roots and we look forward to working once again with Marvel Studios, Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin on this new beginning,” said Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment.

“Working on the Spider-Man movies was the experience of a lifetime for me. While we were looking forward to doing a fourth one together, the studio and Marvel have a unique opportunity to take the franchise in a new direction, and I know they will do a terrific job,” said Sam Raimi.

“We have had a once-in-a-lifetime collaboration and friendship with Sam and Tobey and they have given us their best for the better part of the last decade.This is a bittersweet moment for us because while it is hard to imagine Spider-Man in anyone else’s hands, I know that this was a day that was inevitable,” said Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, who has served as the studio’s chief production executive since the beginning of the franchise. “Now everything begins anew, and that’s got us all tremendously excited about what comes next. Under the continuing supervision of Avi and Laura, we have a clear vision for the future of Spider-Man and can’t wait to share this exciting new direction with audiences in 2012.”

"Spider-Man will always be an important franchise for Sony Pictures and a fresh start like this is a responsibility that we all take very seriously," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures. "We have always believed that story comes first and story guides the direction of these films and as we move onto the next chapter, we will stay true to that principle and will do so with the highest respect for the source material and the fans and moviegoers who deserve nothing but the best when it comes to bringing these stories and characters to life on the big screen."

The studio will have more news about Spider-Man in 2012 in the coming weeks as it prepares for production of the film.
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sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I do not like the idea of starting from scratch at this point. Just proceed like SM3 did not happen, at least the Symbiote story line. And then do a good job with the Symbiote story. If anything needs to be changed in the back story just do a quick flashback.
 
Seraphyn

Seraphyn

What, no time travel or alternate universe? :p

In any case, I'll probably end up seeing it anyway, but a reboot so soon seems silly to me.
 
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Wyrminarrd

I'd like to see a combination of Rhino and Kraven. Have Rhino be the starting villain who Kraven has come to New York to hunt but when Spider-Man defeats Rhino it leads to Kraven shifting his target.
 
Dave

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Wyrminarrd said:
I'd like to see a combination of Rhino and Kraven. Have Rhino be the starting villain who Kraven has come to New York to hunt but when Spider-Man defeats Rhino it leads to Kraven shifting his target.
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I could get behind that. You like Kraven like Amazing Spider-Man or Ultimate Spider-Man where he's a reality show fraud until Spidey beats his ass down?
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

If half the film is Kraven going after Spidey he'd need to be the real deal, wouldn't he.

Plus, UKraven only worked once as a joke, all appearances after sucked.
 
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Wyrminarrd

Dave;327756][QUOTE=Wyrminarrd said:
I'd like to see a combination of Rhino and Kraven. Have Rhino be the starting villain who Kraven has come to New York to hunt but when Spider-Man defeats Rhino it leads to Kraven shifting his target.
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I could get behind that. You like Kraven like Amazing Spider-Man or Ultimate Spider-Man where he's a reality show fraud until Spidey beats his ass down?[/QUOTE]

I prefer the Amazing Spider-Man version, the reality show angle just wouldn't work in a big movie.
 
Calleja

Calleja

Arghhh...not another origin movie, please! Do it like the Hulk reboot, show us the "origin" in the intro credits and then just get on with it.

The Hulk reboot is the only reason I'm not really THAT worried about this, but that press release didn't help at all.
 
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