GasBandit
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At least stick around for "GAY! A Gay Musical."
[TV] Talk about the last TV you watched, the catchall thread
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The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow mid-season finales
Uh...HOLY SHIT and...HOLY SHIT! Damn they know how to keep a brother hanging. I wonder what Arrow is gonna do.
Uh...HOLY SHIT and...HOLY SHIT! Damn they know how to keep a brother hanging. I wonder what Arrow is gonna do.
If I had to guess, I would expect Arrow is gonna make you say, "HOLY SHIT!"
--Patrick
Prolly-ALSO-Brooklyn 99 ALSO has one hell of a mid-season finale. Oh these TRICKY TV writing bastards.
figmentPez
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I've been watching the latest season of Once Upon a Time. Aside from feeling like "okay, who can we get to come back... okay, let's write a soft reboot around them", I think it's pretty fun.
The crazy part, to me, is the actress who plays Drizella, Adelaide Kane. Back in 2010, she also appeared in The Good Cosplay Thread Pt 3, down at the bottom of that post, dressed as Wonder Girl. (Interview with Ms Kane confirming it.) She'd been in Power Rangers RPM at that point, so she was already famous, but that's the first place I saw her.
The crazy part, to me, is the actress who plays Drizella, Adelaide Kane. Back in 2010, she also appeared in The Good Cosplay Thread Pt 3, down at the bottom of that post, dressed as Wonder Girl. (Interview with Ms Kane confirming it.) She'd been in Power Rangers RPM at that point, so she was already famous, but that's the first place I saw her.
Gave up on Punisher after the third episode. We'll circle back to it I'm sure.
Binging Broadchurch now. Three episodes last night. Tired today. MILLER!
Binging Broadchurch now. Three episodes last night. Tired today. MILLER!
TIL beware of tall ladies in short skirts carrying ladders. Should probably go double for @bhamv3.
GasBandit
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Ok, I've given the Orville 10 episodes. It's shit.
The writing is absolute pablum. Every human on the ship is either emotionally or intellectually retarded, or both. There is absolutely no way any of these people would have a career in any military for more than 2 weeks. The only interesting characters are Bortas, Isaac, and Pickles, and even they are mostly based on common tropes. The show can't decide whether it wants to be a Star Trek parody or an attempt to play it straight. The humor is infantile, and the social commentary is sanctimonious beyond belief.
Seth MacFarlane owes me 450 minutes of my life back, and I hope his droopy-eyed ass gets shot out of a cannon and he misses the net.
The writing is absolute pablum. Every human on the ship is either emotionally or intellectually retarded, or both. There is absolutely no way any of these people would have a career in any military for more than 2 weeks. The only interesting characters are Bortas, Isaac, and Pickles, and even they are mostly based on common tropes. The show can't decide whether it wants to be a Star Trek parody or an attempt to play it straight. The humor is infantile, and the social commentary is sanctimonious beyond belief.
Seth MacFarlane owes me 450 minutes of my life back, and I hope his droopy-eyed ass gets shot out of a cannon and he misses the net.
As much as he likes playing physical and emotional abuse for laughs, how long before his name comes up in that other thread?
Paying for the new Cosmos doesn't make up for that.
Considering Brian on Family Guy is his author character, Brian's a total shit-heel when it comes to women, and McFarlene has used the show in the past to announce the misconduct of his peers... he could have been telling us all along in a cry for help.
GasBandit
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Since there turned out to only be 2 more episodes in the season, I watched them too, to see if it gets any better.
Nope. Still dumb jokes, still every episode involving a bridge officer committing an act of dumbassery that should get them cashiered, if not incarcerated. Especially the season finale. That should have been a career-ender for both the Captain and his first officer.
(Oh yeah, and circling back to the "downvote" episode, I don't know if Black Mirror did it better, because I haven't watched black mirror, but even Community definitely did it better in their MeowMeowBeanz episode.)
I think what bothers me most about this series is that the characters in it treat their military careers the way I'd expect a retail sales drudge to treat his part time gig at Target - no sense of duty, not even the slightest iota of concern that they are responsible for the lives of their crew or the consequences of their actions. I wonder if anyone on the writing staff has actually interacted with any military officer at all in their entire lives. These are not people who show up to work drunk, dismiss mission parameters with "I'm sure it'll be fine if we just do what's convenient," or expect lame excuses to justify catastrophic dereliction of duty. These people never would have made it through basic, much less be made bridge officers. If they just wanted to get blackout drunk and fuck, they could have just stayed home on Earth - it's already been confirmed that humanity lives in a post-scarcity "replicator" society.
Nope. Still dumb jokes, still every episode involving a bridge officer committing an act of dumbassery that should get them cashiered, if not incarcerated. Especially the season finale. That should have been a career-ender for both the Captain and his first officer.
(Oh yeah, and circling back to the "downvote" episode, I don't know if Black Mirror did it better, because I haven't watched black mirror, but even Community definitely did it better in their MeowMeowBeanz episode.)
I think what bothers me most about this series is that the characters in it treat their military careers the way I'd expect a retail sales drudge to treat his part time gig at Target - no sense of duty, not even the slightest iota of concern that they are responsible for the lives of their crew or the consequences of their actions. I wonder if anyone on the writing staff has actually interacted with any military officer at all in their entire lives. These are not people who show up to work drunk, dismiss mission parameters with "I'm sure it'll be fine if we just do what's convenient," or expect lame excuses to justify catastrophic dereliction of duty. These people never would have made it through basic, much less be made bridge officers. If they just wanted to get blackout drunk and fuck, they could have just stayed home on Earth - it's already been confirmed that humanity lives in a post-scarcity "replicator" society.
GasBandit
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And it's where they should have stayed.
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Again, okay, but "band of military misfits" is such a cliched trope, that it describes practically every military-based movie/show.
GasBandit
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They're never the ones in command though. Even in Stripes, Private Benjamin, etc they were just enlisted nobodies. They don't make command officers out of washouts, ever. Maybe if they'd also made the Admiralty booze-addled fuckups, I could forgive it, because then it'd be easier to swallow as a farce - but they're not, and the fact that the writers think they'd tolerate this kind of thing completely torpedoes suspension of disbelief.
I admit I haven't watched The Orville, but are the shenanigans any worse than what they got up to in, say, M*A*S*H? those surgeons sure didn't behave like war surgeons most of the time, and half of the command staff were idiots, too.
GasBandit
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Far, far worse.
Like, imagine if Frank had been ordered not to leave the base, but he got drunk and left anyway, taking Radar and Klinger with him, and he got Radar captured and accidentally caused the death of 100 South Koreans. Then Hawkeye got drunk, showed up for surgery hung over, and his patient died because of it. And his only excuse to the Colonel was "Well, c'mon, I was hungover, I didn't mean to" and the Colonel accepted that explanation.
And THEN Honeycutt, on leave in Japan, caused a diplomatic incident by pretending to dry-hump the Prime Minister's wife on a table at a state dinner that prompted Japan to enter the war on the side of the North Koreans... and all he got was a formal reprimand on his record when he got back to the 4077th.
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GasBandit
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Basically, the Orville's helmsman should have lost his wings in the first act of the pilot when he nearly caused the shuttle to collide with another ship when he was fooling around pretending to be drunk-driving because he was mad that his commanding officer was getting on his case about the fact that he was drinking a beer at that very moment, while piloting the shuttle. Drinking on duty is a very drop-dead-dealbreaker in every military organization.
Every single "away mission" is drastically, woefully unprepared and fails to "keep a low profile" literally every single time. The navigator-cum-engineer, who is supposed to be a "secret super genius" should have been busted down to Janitor after his screwup on the "downvote" episode, if not simply left behind to be lobotomized in the name of preventing cultural contamination.
And both of them should have been brought up on charges for feeding a piece of one crewmate to another crewmate. That's gotta constitute assault.
For that matter, the executive officer's screwup in the season finale, as I've mentioned, should have been a career-ender. "I'm going to have a look around." "Don't contaminate their bronze-age culture." "I won't let them see me," she says, standing on a mountain crest in a bright blue uniform before traipsing down, scaring kids, healing one of their injuries with a handheld device, telling them her name, then running away back into the hills when she realizes the rest of the village has been watching her all along.
The Captain should have been in trouble for covering it up for her, as I said, but both of them also showed up for their duty shift on the bridge that morning hung over.
Also the Doctor's kids are terrible. I wanted nothing more in this world as much as I wanted Isaac to look her straight in the eye, when she talked about how proud she was to be a single mother, and say "Single mothers cause crime."
Basically, the only people that take their jobs seriously are the non-humans. Bortas, as a humorless Worf expy, is SRS BZNS about everything, of course, andData Isaac the artificial robo-man of course can't help it, if Alana was any more earnest and bright eyed she's sneeze glitter... even the engineer blob manages to do his job with his only vice being constantly hitting on the doctor.
Every single "away mission" is drastically, woefully unprepared and fails to "keep a low profile" literally every single time. The navigator-cum-engineer, who is supposed to be a "secret super genius" should have been busted down to Janitor after his screwup on the "downvote" episode, if not simply left behind to be lobotomized in the name of preventing cultural contamination.
And both of them should have been brought up on charges for feeding a piece of one crewmate to another crewmate. That's gotta constitute assault.
For that matter, the executive officer's screwup in the season finale, as I've mentioned, should have been a career-ender. "I'm going to have a look around." "Don't contaminate their bronze-age culture." "I won't let them see me," she says, standing on a mountain crest in a bright blue uniform before traipsing down, scaring kids, healing one of their injuries with a handheld device, telling them her name, then running away back into the hills when she realizes the rest of the village has been watching her all along.
The Captain should have been in trouble for covering it up for her, as I said, but both of them also showed up for their duty shift on the bridge that morning hung over.
Also the Doctor's kids are terrible. I wanted nothing more in this world as much as I wanted Isaac to look her straight in the eye, when she talked about how proud she was to be a single mother, and say "Single mothers cause crime."
Basically, the only people that take their jobs seriously are the non-humans. Bortas, as a humorless Worf expy, is SRS BZNS about everything, of course, and
To be fair, this happens every fucking time in Star Trek too. Riker should have faced a court martial for getting Tasha Yar killed.
GasBandit
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At least he had the excuse of Denise Crosby wanting off the show.
And let's not pretend the away team blunders in orville are innocent mistakes - they are blatant disregard for policy. "What, I was just foolin' around!" doesn't fly with the MPs.
Also, the end of the Downvote episode really drove it home, too, where the navigator clearly hasn't learned his lesson and stops to badmouth everyone in the room before they leave. I wanted them to all instantly downvote him, pushing him below 10,000,000, necessitating an action sequence to escape, at the very least.
I want to nominate this post for the Halforum's Funniest (Unintentional) Joke, setup and punchline.
Dude, it's set a few hundred years in a post-Trump world. It's amazing that they have any standards left...
Kantaro: The Sweettooth Salaryman
...live action adaptations of manga are WEIRD! Also the show feels KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND of like one big advertisement for Tokyo Sweet-shops.
...live action adaptations of manga are WEIRD! Also the show feels KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND of like one big advertisement for Tokyo Sweet-shops.
Well TECHNICALLY they adapted one of the issues of Multiversity for that "Crisis on Earth-X" deally bop, but this one's a SKUDGE more accurate.
Earth X is from the 70s though. Unless I'm forgetting something about Multiversity, which is possible.
It was, but this event in particular was inspired by Multiversity, as evidenced by Nazi-Supergirl being called Overgirl and the design of the other's costumes.