[TV] Talk about the last TV you watched, the catchall thread

The Boys (Season One)

Heard it was better than the books going in but DAMN, I'm only 3 eps in and I gotta say its a vast improvement! Especially Butcher, if I remember the early books made him seem like just sort of an asshole but was perfect on the job, where HERE he's...a fuck up somewhat, and I love that!
 
The Boys (Season One)

Heard it was better than the books going in but DAMN, I'm only 3 eps in and I gotta say its a vast improvement! Especially Butcher, if I remember the early books made him seem like just sort of an asshole but was perfect on the job, where HERE he's...a fuck up somewhat, and I love that!
It's like whenever someone adapts a comic by Mark Millar. The quality is like day and night. It's SO good, man. Season 2 is even better. I can't wait for the upcoming third season.
 
i am disappointed at how frequently I have to explain it to people that think it is a dumb show—and I’ve only seen maybe three episodes!

—Patrick
 
Saw that squid game all the youngins been talking 'bout.

Kinda fun.

Spoiler for the ending

I'm a little confused on the detective plot line. So his brother was the front man, I get that. But his brother was missing, hadn't paid his rent in a week and had a card in his apartment. But the file that the detective read, if I saw things right, said Front Man was a previous years winner. I mean I get there's more to learn in season 2 when they make it but still it seems a little weird to me.

Can't say I liked player 001 being the hidden evil guy. Like...even with his strategy they almost lost tug of war. Maybe he was also just banking on his age to protect him doing the purge night? Like he kinda knew it was coming surely and he could have easily died there too. Maybe it was just all supposed to be part of the thrill? Still took away from his 'death' scene after the marbles game.
 
Saw that squid game all the youngins been talking 'bout.

Kinda fun.

Spoiler for the ending

I'm a little confused on the detective plot line. So his brother was the front man, I get that. But his brother was missing, hadn't paid his rent in a week and had a card in his apartment. But the file that the detective read, if I saw things right, said Front Man was a previous years winner. I mean I get there's more to learn in season 2 when they make it but still it seems a little weird to me.

Can't say I liked player 001 being the hidden evil guy. Like...even with his strategy they almost lost tug of war. Maybe he was also just banking on his age to protect him doing the purge night? Like he kinda knew it was coming surely and he could have easily died there too. Maybe it was just all supposed to be part of the thrill? Still took away from his 'death' scene after the marbles game.
If you look back at some of the games, it's clear he's an anomaly.
- He's not targeted by the Red Light/Green Light machine. Everyone but him and people directly around him have a green outline.
- He claims these are all games he played as a kid.
- He's the deciding vote to leave; he wanted everyone who was going to participate from that point on to do so willingly to ease his conscious.
- The guards don't stop the fighting until -he- asks them to. If he needed help, he could always have called on them, even during the Purge.
- His bed is the only one that doesn't get flipped over. The guards must know him.
- He knew which shape to pick in Honeycomb (okay, the TRIANGLE is the right shape but the Star is a good one too)
- His Tug-of-War strategy was sound and correct. He just didn't predict that he'd be stuck with so many lightweights; with a more normal team, they would have won easily.
- He mentions that the Marble game area looks like his neighborhood and he's looking for his old house.
- When the camera pans out to show all the bodies during the Marble game, his isn't there.
- He ducks out of the game right at the point where he could no longer control his ability to win: there's basically nothing stopping someone from just pushing him into the glass in Glass game and he was -never- going to win Squid game.
- When the cop looks at the previous year's file, it starts at #002, not #001. No need to keep records of a VIP player.
 
As I understand it, OPM is very much a show about subverting the concept of superhero (or at least "[Shōnen] Anime Protagonist") stories and the genre as a whole. And it does so spectacularly.

--Patrick
Yes, but you'd think him just one shooting everyone would get real old really fast, but somehow it doesn't.
 
I know this marks me as basic, but I am stoked that CSI:Vegas is back. Grew up on this show, since this was the only show my family could agree on watching together and this is hitting all kinds of nostalgia buttons for me.
 
Supergirl ended last night, kind of a quiet but not underwhelming ending, that leaves it open for spinoffs and expanded media. Either way, I'm just glad I don't have to deal this show's insanely toxic and entitled fanbase anymore...until the next crossover of course.
 

figmentPez

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Not sure where else to put this:

‘Sesame Street’ debuts Asian American muppet



"At only 7 years old, Ji-Young is making history as the first Asian American muppet in the “Sesame Street” canon. She is Korean American and has two passions: rocking out on her electric guitar and skateboarding.

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"Ji-Young will formally be introduced in 'See Us Coming Together: A Sesame Street Special.'
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"In 'See Us Coming Together,' Sesame Street is preparing for Neighbor Day where everyone shares food, music or dance from their culture. Ji-Young becomes upset after a kid, off screen, tells her 'to go back home,' an insult commonly flung at Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. But she feels empowered after Sesame Street’s other Asian American residents, guest stars and friends like Elmo assure her that she belongs as much as anyone else.

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"Having already made several famous friends on 'Sesame Street,' is there anyone Ji-Young still really wants to meet?

“The Linda Lindas because they’re so cool,” Ji-Young said, referring to the teenage punk rock band. “And they rock out and they’re cool girls and most of them are Asian. They’re my heroes. If we can get the Linda Lindas on ‘Sesame Street,’ I would show them around.”

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YES! I hope the Linda Lindas get to be on Sesame Street.
 
Not sure where else to put this:

‘Sesame Street’ debuts Asian American muppet



"At only 7 years old, Ji-Young is making history as the first Asian American muppet in the “Sesame Street” canon. She is Korean American and has two passions: rocking out on her electric guitar and skateboarding.

...

"Ji-Young will formally be introduced in 'See Us Coming Together: A Sesame Street Special.'
...
"In 'See Us Coming Together,' Sesame Street is preparing for Neighbor Day where everyone shares food, music or dance from their culture. Ji-Young becomes upset after a kid, off screen, tells her 'to go back home,' an insult commonly flung at Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. But she feels empowered after Sesame Street’s other Asian American residents, guest stars and friends like Elmo assure her that she belongs as much as anyone else.

...

"Having already made several famous friends on 'Sesame Street,' is there anyone Ji-Young still really wants to meet?

“The Linda Lindas because they’re so cool,” Ji-Young said, referring to the teenage punk rock band. “And they rock out and they’re cool girls and most of them are Asian. They’re my heroes. If we can get the Linda Lindas on ‘Sesame Street,’ I would show them around.”

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YES! I hope the Linda Lindas get to be on Sesame Street.
Took them long enough
 
I can get quite annoyed at TV shows feeling the need to make every group a rainbow of representation - not every friend group/super hero group/whathaveyou is, should be, or ought to be, made up of exactly 1 white male, at least 40% women, at least 1 black person, at least one Asian person, at least one LGBTQ+ person, and not every show needs to include at least one female black person in a position of authority, etc etc etc.
I know it's easy to speak from a position of cishet white guy on this; I just think that while all those groups (and others like neuro-atypical, disabled, etc) definitely need and deserve representation, there oughto be better ways to do it than enforce practically every show to adopt more or less the same group composition. The main cast of, say ,The Good Doctor, includes....one cishet white guy (depending on how you limit the groups - it's funny how Jewish people get lumped in as white these days while they were very much considered non-white up until at least the '90s), and I don't think the series is any better or worse for not happening to have a character that "fits" me. Which is easy since my group is still incredibly over-represented everywhere else. I'm not saying we need any less representation, I'd just wish tv makers were more daring in saying "yeah, this group happens to have 3 women and only 1 guy in the main cast, so what? And that show happens to have only 2 straight characters out of 5, what of it?". Right now, it's either "aimed at a specific audience" (and thus hasa full-ThisGroup cast - Sex and the City, The L-word, Family Matters, whatever), or it's "aimed at everyone, so we need to cut as close as possible to the agreed upon percentages of 37% non-white of which at least one black; 40% female, 18% non-straight, and...;". It's a meaningless self-imposed restriction based on fictional quotas, and while I get why it's done, I personally feel that having the balance be appropriate (that is, over-representing minorities by approximately a factor of 1.5 to 2, which studies have shown is in fact necessary to make it appear representative) across a larger number of shows would be in everyone's favor.

HAVING SAID THAT, if there's one show where the main cast definitely SHOULD be inclusive, representative, and showcase every type of character there is, it's Sesame Street, and the fact that there wasn't an Asian-American in there already for 30 years strikes me as odd and definitely something to recitify.
 
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GasBandit

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Yeah, Sesame Street should be about introducing kids to the world and setting expectations for life in general, so it's important to be inclusive and as diverse as possible.
 
Sesame Street should be about introducing kids to the world and setting expectations for life in general
Holy crap, you really want to turn Sesame Street into a dystopian cyberpunk drama on abuse, selfishness, greed and oppression? give the kids a chance to be happy at least for a little while!
 
HAVING SAID THAT, if there's one show where the main cast definitely SHOULD be inclusive, representative, and showcase every type of character there is, it's Sesame Street, and the fact that there wasn't an Asian-American in there already for 30 years strikes me as odd and definitely something to recitify.
Well, Asian-American MUPPET should be the emphasis. They've had human Asian cast members for a while. Alan Muraoka has a been a regular since 1998.
 
Thing is, Sesame Street was always about inclusion. It was a show made to teach kids, especially poor and underprivileged (see also, inner city kids and especially minorities and POC). When it first debuted in 1969, it had several actors, both adult and child, of various ethnicities. And it was controversial back then to see black kids playing with white kids like it was no big deal. I remember years ago, people made a big stink that they were debuting a Muppet with autism.

And Conservatives have been trying to shut down the show pretty much since its debut.
 
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I can get quite annoyed at TV shows feeling the need to make every group a rainbow of representation…
You had me going at the beginning there, but you really pulled it together at the end, because, en toto, what you express is pretty much my feeling as well.

—Patrick
 
So what races do all the bright blue, green, red, purple, etc Muppets represent?
The cultural diversity has always been handled by the live actors. I’m fine with them adding muppets that represent other diversities but saying it’s “about time” they did feels like it’s asking why there’s no African American Smurf.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
As I understand it, muppets can be animals, monsters, or people. Most muppets fall under the animal or monster subheading (Kermit the Frog, Fozzie Bear, Cookie Monster, Elmo is also of the Monster type), but every so often they add a "human" muppet (Walter, Statler and Waldorf, Guy Smiley, Swedish Chef) and then things like race come into play
 
With the "classic" muppets (i.e. 1969-1990s Sesame Street) there were a whole passle of human muppets that also could be any color. I don't think those specific muppets were intended to have specific race/ethnicity, and most of these were just random background characters.
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("Anything Muppets" from Sesame Street)

In the current era there appear to be more human muppets that function as series protagonists and have significant back stories, so it makes sense that these include aspects like race, neurodiversity, etc. as previously mentioned.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Obviously there's a lot of revision as the medium advances.

Consider the comparison between the first "black" muppet, Roosevelt Franklin, in 1970:

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... with Wes and Elijah Walker, in 2021.

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So what races do all the bright blue, green, red, purple, etc Muppets represent?
The cultural diversity has always been handled by the live actors. I’m fine with them adding muppets that represent other diversities but saying it’s “about time” they did feels like it’s asking why there’s no African American Smurf.
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Alan Muaoka has been the owner of Hooper's Store for 23 years.
 
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