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That's too bad :/

Only a week ago, I saw him being mentioned on a forum and looked him up in Wikipedia. Really crappy that he died now.

CNN - Top story
MSNBC - Top Story
Fox - Has it on the crawl but their top story is how the Cash for Clunkers sucks and that colleges are getting ready for H1N1.

Really, not Democrat dies party?! Fox has gotten soft.

Bummer, from what I read he seemed like a decent politician.

YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS DEAD?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne

But he is a US Senator that got away with murder so yes sad faces all around.

What the crap?

Charlie Dont Surf said:

YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS DEAD?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne

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Get over it. That was 1969. If all you guys have is Chappaquiddick then he must have done some good since then.

like No Child Left Behind.

This should be in the Politics forum.

Covar said:

like No Child Left Behind.

This should be in the Politics forum.

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Actually this is major news, not political discussion. Of course, it could get there very, very fast.

Dave said:

Actually this is major news, not political discussion. Of course, it could get there very, very fast.

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With Ted Kennedy as the subject? I don't see how.

I see your Chappaquiddick and raise you Dick "I love torture" Cheney.

Your high horse has no legs, asshole.

(and that's all I've got to say about that)

Teddy was asking that Mass amend the law so a new senator could be appointed quickly if anything happened to him last week, so it looks like he really knew he was at the end.

It's sad - not too many politicians really fought as hard for people as he did.

And maybe the news will shut up about Michael Jackson for a while. I doubt that, though.

you know who else is dead?

most people that have been alive

Dave said:

CNN - Top story
MSNBC - Top Story
Fox - Has it on the crawl but their top story is how the Cash for Clunkers sucks and that colleges are getting ready for H1N1.

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Its the top story on all 3 websites. Though, its kinda similar to when Jack Kemp died, Fox New was the only one that gave him the big headline.

Geez, I was being facetious. I guess I don't post enough about politics for that to have been obvious.

No, but it's the one sure thing that the right is going to bring up today. Just like Byrd's KKK "past" is all they have on him.

"senator Kennedy died because Obamacare killed him!"

Sorry. I've just been reading all the shitty back and forth on facebook.

DarkAudit said:

No, but it's the one sure thing that the right is going to bring up today. Just like Byrd's KKK "past" is all they have on him.

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I'd also like to think I'm cutting off any of those people here at the pass.

Charlie Dont Surf said:

Geez, I was being facetious. I guess I don't post enough about politics for that to have been obvious.

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I hear ya, man. I was surprised it was you but I fully expected to see it.

Zappit said:

Teddy was asking that Mass amend the law so a new senator could be appointed quickly if anything happened to him last week, so it looks like he really knew he was at the end.

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That's nothing more than political positioning. It was his own push that made it so the Governor couldn't appoint a Senator in the first place, so that Mitt Romney (R - MA) couldn't appoint a Republican Senator if John Kerry won the 2004 Election.

I just hate seeing people go this way. Cancer is one of the worst ways you can go. I just hope the end was peaceful.

Yeah, Good Morning America only waited 30 minutes before bringing up Chappaquiddick. I think they waited a day before talking about Micheal Jackson's legal troubles with children.

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Actually this is major news, not political discussion. Of course, it could get there very, very fast.

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Major news about a politician. It should have been in the political subforum, if we're going to sequester that all off to spare the eyes of the poor, fragile non-political posters.

Rest in peace, Teddy, son of a prohibition bootlegger, Harvard exam cheat, dedicated nepocrat, coat-tail rider of JFK, Hero of chappaquiddick, drunk, enabler of rapists, cosponsor of No Child Left Behind, warrior against individualism, sand in the political gears. Rest assured, your compatriots will name the health care bill after you to further attempt to ramrod it and stifle any opposition.

GasBandit said:

Major news about a politician. It should have been in the political subforum, if we're going to sequester that all off to spare the eyes of the poor, fragile non-political posters.

Rest in peace, Teddy, son of a prohibition bootlegger, Harvard exam cheat, dedicated nepocrat, coat-tail rider of JFK, Hero of chappaquiddick, drunk, enabler of rapists, cosponsor of No Child Left Behind, warrior against individualism, sand in the political gears. Rest assured, your compatriots will name the health care bill after you to further attempt to ramrod it and stifle any opposition.

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I just lost the respect I held for you.

Are you going to drive to MA and dance on his grave after he is buried?

Look, I chose to put it here because it was about a man who died that was a politician. It's no different than when Michael Jackson died- that doesn't go in Media Madness.

All of you who are turning this into a big political bitch fest make me a little sad. A man who spent his life serving society even after his brothers had been assassinated has passed away.

Go ahead though. Be petty. it shows your colors.

Zappit said:

Teddy was asking that Mass amend the law so a new senator could be appointed quickly if anything happened to him last week, so it looks like he really knew he was at the end.

It's sad - not too many politicians really fought as hard for people as he did.

And maybe the news will shut up about Michael Jackson for a while. I doubt that, though.

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Did it get changed? Because if so, that basically allows Massachusetts to give the Senate seat to someone who will rollover for the next Kennedy. I really wish that whole family would die and go away.

sixpackshaker said:

I just lost the respect I held for you.

Are you going to drive to MA and dance on his grave after he is buried?

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Look through this scanning/tunneling electron microscope and you can see something that is about the size of my care for the respect you or any other forumgoer holds for me. No, I won't be dancing on his grave, I'll be one of the millions trying for generations to undo the damage he has wrought on this country, which leaves too little time for such fleeting indulgences.

Krisken said:

Look, I chose to put it here because it was about a man who died that was a politician. It's no different than when Michael Jackson died- that doesn't go in Media Madness.

All of you who are turning this into a big political bitch fest make me a little sad. A man who spent his life serving society even after his brothers had been assassinated has passed away.

Go ahead though. Be petty. it shows your colors.

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That you equate Michael Jackson and Ted Kennedy goes far to illustrate the inanity and immaturity of your political thought process. "They say the evil that men do lives after them, and the good is interred with their bones," ... Teddy's going to be lonely in there.

Cuyval Dar said:

I really wish that whole family would die and go away.

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Well, given the mortal condition, it's an inevitability, but only after the damage has been done. I'm just glad we dodged the bullet when Teddy tried to foist his neice upon us.

That you go so far to continue your trolling Gas shows just how immature you are as a person. Are you so upset people don't frequent your threads anymore?

GasBandit said:

Son of a prohibition bootlegger

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Sins of the father? Really? Weak, weak, weak.

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Harvard exam cheat

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Yup. Expelled when he was a freshman. But readmitted later and finished distinguished. Imagine that. Someone cheating in college. Oh, and someone learning from their mistakes.

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Dedicated nepocrat

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Strawman.

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Coat-tail rider of JFK

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Strawman the Sequel.

GasBandit said:

Hero of chappaquiddick

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1969. Guy has an accident while driving drunk and panics. Gets charged & pays for it. Yes, I think the punishment was light. That's his fault how?

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Drunk

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NOBODY in Washington drinks. Nobody. He's the only one.

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Enabler of rapists

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Agree with you that he went overboard trying to protect his nephew from this.

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Cosponsor of No Child Left Behind

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The bill proposed by Bush and voted overwhelmingly by both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and House? That bill? Bad, Ted! Bad bipartisan guy!

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Warrior against individualism

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Strawman III - Rise of the GasBandit Idiocy!

GasBandit said:

Sand in the political gears

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*pfaw* You say that like it's a bad thing.


Pretty weak, Gas. All around pretty weak. Dude served 9 terms as a Senator and that's all you got?

Krisken said:

That you go so far to continue your trolling Gas shows just how immature you are as a person. Are you so upset people don't frequent your threads anymore?

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No, I believe that he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in politics post in his threads.

Cuyval Dar said:

No, I believe that he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in politics post in his threads.

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I read his threads, I just seldom post in them.

I really have no clue why anyone here ever replies to anything gasbandit posts.

And this definitely isn't subforum material. It's gonna be front page news on most websites and papers.

Ok, so he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in arguing politics on a regular basis post in his threads.

Now that I believe.

Cuyval Dar said:

Ok, so he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in arguing politics on a regular basis post in his threads.

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Much better said. Even I have grown tired of playing that game, though.

Charlie Dont Surf said:

I really have no clue why anyone here ever replies to anything gasbandit posts.

And this definitely isn't subforum material. It's gonna be front page news on most websites and papers.

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I think most people learned long ago to just ignore him. He is like the Mike Savage of the forums.

Well, as long as we're being asses......

is that real?

Covar said:

is that real?

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It was in the National Lampoon, and yes they did get sued. But it was Volkswagen that sued, not Kennedy.

Rest in peace, teddy. For all the bad, you did a lot of good too.

Dave said:

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Son of a prohibition bootlegger

Sins of the father? Really? Weak, weak, weak.

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No, more like if his father hadn't been an extremely successful prohibition bootlegger, we'd never have heard of him.

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Harvard exam cheat

Yup. Expelled when he was a freshman. But readmitted later and finished distinguished. Imagine that. Someone cheating in college. Oh, and someone learning from their mistakes.

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Obviously he didn't learn that. He learned that he can always get forgiveness because of who he was born to.

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Dedicated nepocrat

Strawman.

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Strawman to what? Because nobody was saying he WASN'T a nepocrat? He was, after all... he tried to force that brainless twat Caroline on us, remember? But again, how is this a "straw man?" I don't think you're using that phrase correctly.

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Coat-tail rider of JFK

Strawman the Sequel.

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See above. I think you're saying straw man when you mean Ad Hominem.

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Hero of chappaquiddick

1969. Guy has an accident while driving drunk and panics. Gets charged & pays for it. Yes, I think the punishment was light. That's his fault how?

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The guy walked back to his hotel and went to bed. Never thought to call the cops, or I dunno, an ambulance? For the woman he left to drown in his car? And of course, his family connections get him off the hook with a slap on the wrist.

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Drunk

NOBODY in Washington drinks. Nobody. He's the only one.

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I didn't say "has a drink from time to time," I said DRUNK. As in habitually.

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Enabler of rapists

Agree with you that he went overboard trying to protect his nephew from this.

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Well, OK then.

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Cosponsor of No Child Left Behind

The bill proposed by Bush and voted overwhelmingly by both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and House? That bill? Bad, Ted! Bad bipartisan guy!

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Bipartisanship is part of what is wrong with the current political situation. And frankly, shame on Bush as well for that little piece of legislation as well. Bipartisanship is the enemy of our nation. If you had 5 men and a woman stranded on a desert island and a vote was passed to remove her right to consent, it would be called bipartisan.

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Warrior against individualism

Strawman III - Rise of the GasBandit Idiocy!

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See above again, and this is taken from a direct quote where Kennedy said that "we are engaged in a war against individualism" and he wasn't meaning that was a bad thing. What made it even more WTF-ish was he brought this up in a speech to congratulate the New England Patriots on their super bowl victory.

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Sand in the political gears

*pfaw* You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Granted, our politicians serve us best when they can't get anything done, but that's not what I meant and you know it

Pretty weak, Gas. All around pretty weak. Dude served 9 terms as a Senator and that's all you got?

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It's more than anybody else is bringing to illustrate the GOOD he did. What did he do in his 9 terms that was so grand? Specific examples please.

Nothing left but to remind you of what a sick, sad fuck of a troll you are, GB. You truly have shown how uselessly pathetic you are. Only your "been around forever" status lets you hang around. Only time will tell before even that won't save you.

This thread is dangerously close to being moved to the flame area where you guys can go nuts. Until then, knock off the personal attacks.

Note the reddish MOD coloring.

I really didn't want the thread to go this direction

Krisken said:

I really didn't want the thread to go this direction

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I know. And it's cool until the personal attacks start. Not putting up with that any longer.

So is mod-speak in different colors now?

And does that mean that the thread graveyard is a place we can still keep posting and just be the rudest dudes in town?

Charlie Dont Surf said:

So is mod-speak in different colors now?

And does that mean that the thread graveyard is a place we can still keep posting and just be the rudest dudes in town?

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Nope. That would be The Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy.

Dave said:

Nope. That would be The Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy.

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All the more reason why the Politics forum should be in that section. aranoid:

Dave said:

I know. And it's cool until the personal attacks start. Not putting up with that any longer.

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I would absolutely understand if you did move it. I'm just sad we couldn't have one thread on a political figure dying that doesn't become a sad statement about how inconsiderate we are of other people.

i dunno. I've always found insisting on forcing the general public to mourn a popular figure because that person was important a little thought policed. I mean, I'm a very liberal dem, and I don't really care that he died. Because you know, I didn't know him.

and his public life makes him a target for opponents. I think the idea of faked sympathy or mourning is a bit vomit-inducing.

I guess I never want to be the type of person who celebrates someone's death. No matter how much I disagree with them.

just because you don't want to, doesn't mean everyone should act the same way.

I really have no appropriate response.

GasBandit said:

It's more than anybody else is bringing to illustrate the GOOD he did. What did he do in his 9 terms that was so grand? Specific examples please.

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Please?

blotsfan said:

Please?

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Please is generally used when you ask for something politely.

I think insulting a dead person is rude, but I also think folks go a bit over-board memorializing public figures.

I know I was upset by a professor that spew all sorts of hate (in class) when Reagan died. I think GB pushed it, too. However, getting into a flame war about whether a politician is or isn't a scumbag is folly anyway.

Oh, boy. I remember the last time we had the "etiquette regarding death news" fight - it wasn't pretty.

I'm in the give 'em respect for the immediate future, but let the legacy define the deceased, but let the legacy define their place in the history books.

Yes, we all know about Chappaquiddick, but maybe the guy was really trying to make up for past sins. He did do good, being a champion of health care reform. And GB, if you want a more specific example, try this.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/26/littlest.refusenik.kennedy/index.html

Ya take the good with the bad, but it all gets remembered by someone.

People die all the time. Yes it is sad but I still say that public figures and celebrities get way more attention than they deserve. Is there life really really any more important than some random Joe?

When Diana died she had two kids, and there was alot of sympathy which was understandable. My mum died when I was six and my brother was eight. No one gave a shit.

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Ahh, Eddie Izzard.

hylian said:

People die all the time. Yes it is sad but I still say that public figures and celebrities get way more attention than they deserve. Is there life really really any more important than some random Joe?

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A nine term senator whose vote effected pretty much every federal law passed in the last forty years in some way is rather more important in terms of recognition than most joes off the street. That's my opinion anyway.

Dorko said:

A nine term senator whose vote effected pretty much every federal law passed in the last forty years in some way is rather more important in terms of recognition than most joes off the street. That's my opinion anyway.

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I wasn't meaning this death in particular I was just commenting how I feel about death in general.

Cuyval Dar said:

Ok, so he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in arguing politics on a regular basis post in his threads.

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I have to disagree with this. I provide reasoned arguments all the time but he doesn't want reasoned arguments, he wants to stir shit up a bit. You can tell by the glee in his posts when he snags a liberal frothing at the mouth. The frothier the better.

Never heard of him.

I was more taken by the news of Erkki Laine, a Finnish ice hockey legend, drowning just two days ago.

North_Ranger said:

Never heard of him.

I was more taken by the news of Erkki Laine, a Finnish ice hockey legend, drowning just two days ago.

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He fell through the ice?

Seraphyn said:

He fell through the ice?

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It's summer, wiseguy.

Krisken said:

I guess I never want to be the type of person who celebrates someone's death. No matter how much I disagree with them.

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Seriously. Celebrating someone's death is reprehensible except in rare circumstances (aka Hitler). It shows a disgusting side of humanity. I remember in college when Reagan died the local hippie house threw a party. I got really drunk and went there and started fights. Surprisingly, they were all pussies. Not sure where that story was going...

Oh yeah, even though I disagree with a lot of what Reagan did, he didn't deserve that. Very few people do. Like Hitler, and ironically Jesus (cause, you know, he died for our sins....)

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It's summer, wiseguy.

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yea but in Finland, so it was what? 30F?

Covar said:

yea but in Finland, so it was what? 30F?

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They don't use our crazy Fahrenheit system. Celsius, sir, celsius.

Get off my lawn wit yer newfangled foreigner ideers, Krisken!

Cuyval Dar said:

Get off my lawn wit yer newfangled foreigner ideers, Krisken!

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Are you talking about Celsius or being considerate on the internet?

Cuyval Dar said:

Get off my lawn wit yer newfangled foreigner ideers, Krisken!

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Krisken said:

Are you talking about Celsius or being considerate on the internet?

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Both?

I never got my list. :tear:

We are just here to bury Ceasar.