Ted Kennedy, dead at 77

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Cuyval Dar

Ok, so he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in arguing politics on a regular basis post in his threads.
 
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WolfOfOdin

Rest in peace, teddy. For all the bad, you did a lot of good too.
 
GasBandit

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Son of a prohibition bootlegger

Sins of the father? Really? Weak, weak, weak.
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No, more like if his father hadn't been an extremely successful prohibition bootlegger, we'd never have heard of him.
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Harvard exam cheat

Yup. Expelled when he was a freshman. But readmitted later and finished distinguished. Imagine that. Someone cheating in college. Oh, and someone learning from their mistakes.
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Obviously he didn't learn that. He learned that he can always get forgiveness because of who he was born to.
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Dedicated nepocrat

Strawman.
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Strawman to what? Because nobody was saying he WASN'T a nepocrat? He was, after all... he tried to force that brainless twat Caroline on us, remember? But again, how is this a "straw man?" I don't think you're using that phrase correctly.
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Coat-tail rider of JFK

Strawman the Sequel.
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See above. I think you're saying straw man when you mean Ad Hominem.
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Hero of chappaquiddick

1969. Guy has an accident while driving drunk and panics. Gets charged & pays for it. Yes, I think the punishment was light. That's his fault how?
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The guy walked back to his hotel and went to bed. Never thought to call the cops, or I dunno, an ambulance? For the woman he left to drown in his car? And of course, his family connections get him off the hook with a slap on the wrist.
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Drunk

NOBODY in Washington drinks. Nobody. He's the only one.
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I didn't say "has a drink from time to time," I said DRUNK. As in habitually.
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Enabler of rapists

Agree with you that he went overboard trying to protect his nephew from this.
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Well, OK then.
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Cosponsor of No Child Left Behind

The bill proposed by Bush and voted overwhelmingly by both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and House? That bill? Bad, Ted! Bad bipartisan guy!
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Bipartisanship is part of what is wrong with the current political situation. And frankly, shame on Bush as well for that little piece of legislation as well. Bipartisanship is the enemy of our nation. If you had 5 men and a woman stranded on a desert island and a vote was passed to remove her right to consent, it would be called bipartisan.
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Warrior against individualism

Strawman III - Rise of the GasBandit Idiocy!
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See above again, and this is taken from a direct quote where Kennedy said that "we are engaged in a war against individualism" and he wasn't meaning that was a bad thing. What made it even more WTF-ish was he brought this up in a speech to congratulate the New England Patriots on their super bowl victory.


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Sand in the political gears

*pfaw* You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Granted, our politicians serve us best when they can't get anything done, but that's not what I meant and you know it :p
Pretty weak, Gas. All around pretty weak. Dude served 9 terms as a Senator and that's all you got?
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It's more than anybody else is bringing to illustrate the GOOD he did. What did he do in his 9 terms that was so grand? Specific examples please.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Nothing left but to remind you of what a sick, sad fuck of a troll you are, GB. You truly have shown how uselessly pathetic you are. Only your "been around forever" status lets you hang around. Only time will tell before even that won't save you.
 
Dave

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This thread is dangerously close to being moved to the flame area where you guys can go nuts. Until then, knock off the personal attacks.

Note the reddish MOD coloring.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

So is mod-speak in different colors now?

And does that mean that the thread graveyard is a place we can still keep posting and just be the rudest dudes in town?
 
Krisken

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Dave said:
I know. And it's cool until the personal attacks start. Not putting up with that any longer.
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I would absolutely understand if you did move it. I'm just sad we couldn't have one thread on a political figure dying that doesn't become a sad statement about how inconsiderate we are of other people.
 
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Andromache

i dunno. I've always found insisting on forcing the general public to mourn a popular figure because that person was important a little thought policed. I mean, I'm a very liberal dem, and I don't really care that he died. Because you know, I didn't know him.

and his public life makes him a target for opponents. I think the idea of faked sympathy or mourning is a bit vomit-inducing.
 
Krisken

Krisken

I guess I never want to be the type of person who celebrates someone's death. No matter how much I disagree with them.
 
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Andromache

just because you don't want to, doesn't mean everyone should act the same way.
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I think insulting a dead person is rude, but I also think folks go a bit over-board memorializing public figures.

I know I was upset by a professor that spew all sorts of hate (in class) when Reagan died. I think GB pushed it, too. However, getting into a flame war about whether a politician is or isn't a scumbag is folly anyway.
 
Zappit

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Oh, boy. I remember the last time we had the "etiquette regarding death news" fight - it wasn't pretty.

I'm in the give 'em respect for the immediate future, but let the legacy define the deceased, but let the legacy define their place in the history books.

Yes, we all know about Chappaquiddick, but maybe the guy was really trying to make up for past sins. He did do good, being a champion of health care reform. And GB, if you want a more specific example, try this.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/26/littlest.refusenik.kennedy/index.html

Ya take the good with the bad, but it all gets remembered by someone.
 
Hylian

Hylian

People die all the time. Yes it is sad but I still say that public figures and celebrities get way more attention than they deserve. Is there life really really any more important than some random Joe?
 
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Twitch

When Diana died she had two kids, and there was alot of sympathy which was understandable. My mum died when I was six and my brother was eight. No one gave a shit.
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Ahh, Eddie Izzard.
 
Norris

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hylian said:
People die all the time. Yes it is sad but I still say that public figures and celebrities get way more attention than they deserve. Is there life really really any more important than some random Joe?
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A nine term senator whose vote effected pretty much every federal law passed in the last forty years in some way is rather more important in terms of recognition than most joes off the street. That's my opinion anyway.
 
Hylian

Hylian

Dorko said:
A nine term senator whose vote effected pretty much every federal law passed in the last forty years in some way is rather more important in terms of recognition than most joes off the street. That's my opinion anyway.
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I wasn't meaning this death in particular I was just commenting how I feel about death in general.
 
MindDetective

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Cuyval Dar said:
Ok, so he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in arguing politics on a regular basis post in his threads.
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I have to disagree with this. I provide reasoned arguments all the time but he doesn't want reasoned arguments, he wants to stir shit up a bit. You can tell by the glee in his posts when he snags a liberal frothing at the mouth. The frothier the better.
 
North_Ranger

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Never heard of him.

I was more taken by the news of Erkki Laine, a Finnish ice hockey legend, drowning just two days ago.
 
Necronic

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Krisken said:
I guess I never want to be the type of person who celebrates someone's death. No matter how much I disagree with them.
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Seriously. Celebrating someone's death is reprehensible except in rare circumstances (aka Hitler). It shows a disgusting side of humanity. I remember in college when Reagan died the local hippie house threw a party. I got really drunk and went there and started fights. Surprisingly, they were all pussies. Not sure where that story was going...

Oh yeah, even though I disagree with a lot of what Reagan did, he didn't deserve that. Very few people do. Like Hitler, and ironically Jesus (cause, you know, he died for our sins....)
 
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