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The curious feminine weakness for starving, incompetent artists

#1

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Disclaimer: I'm not accusing any of the guys here of being worthless beatniks. I've seen some forumite art and it's actually GOOD.

"I've lost my touch. Can you be my new muse?"
"I have to draw you!"
"I'm in such PAIN! I'm so ANGRY all the time! Only you can relieve this turmoil!"

Why in the world do women fall for these guys? The typical starving artist is an uneducated, scrawny, burned out stoner. Everything about them is angst and self-loathing. Add a laundry list of authority issues to that and you've got the recipe for a total loser.

I won't profess to being an artist, but I know art. And nothing they produce is worthy of being called art. Of course I realize tastes vary, but there's an enormous gulf between real art and stuff that can only be described as "Vomit on Canvas." Their poetry isn't much better and usually consists of endless verses about pain, hate, and anger. It makes me depressed just to read it, and I don't mean that in a good way. It doesn't rhyme, it doesn't even have structure. It's basically just "I'm hurting inside! Feel sorry for me."

No, I'm not a philistine. I enjoy art, theater, and poetry. Affinity for such things is the mark of an educated, cultured mind. But the stuff these morons vomit out make Baby Jesus cry. While I understand that some people might prefer Longfellow to Coleridge, or Monet to Han Chinese art, all those things have one thing in common: they're actually art. They're not something you can normally see on a 14-year-old emo's Livejournal.

Seriously, why are women attracted to them? Those "artists" spend so much time in their basement studios that they look like Gollum.

And they look like they shared a lot of needles, so any girl who sleeps with them is completely off the market afterward.


#2

HowDroll

HowDroll

*sigh*

You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!


#3

Chippy

Chippy

lol


#4

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Yeah, but dating a successful accountant can actually be understood. He probably isn't crawling with hepatitis.


#5

MindDetective

MindDetective

You're supposed to go for the beatnik, starving accountant!


#6



Chibibar

IronBrig4: it is the image or "oooo I can change this person" mentality of a woman (or man) but I have encounter some women that want to find a man they can mold (yea they do exist) maybe that is why they go after these people.

Of course there is also the mentality of "seeing a bad boy" that they normally don't see just to see what it is like. This explains that some hot women dating some real a-hole I have encounter. (when I use a-hole I mean these guys are rude, mean, even threaten to lift their hand against these women and yet they stay with them.......... so confusing)

There is a psychological thing on this one. I know that some abused women (not saying above women are abused) have this mentality so..... that is the best answer I can give from what I have experience and seen personally.


#7

Krisken

Krisken

Lousy Beatniks.



#8

Bowielee

Bowielee

Why are some girls attracted to bad boys? The same reason that some guys are attracted hot slutty girls.


#9

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Yeah well the hot slutty girl is HOT. The starving artist looks like a pale hippie.


#10



GeneralOrder24

Yeah well the hot slutty girl is HOT. The starving artist looks like a pale hippie.

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people. Some are attracted to tall ones, some to skinny. Some are attracted to assholes, some to people with big hearts. Some people just want someone to love, some just want someone to love them, and some, even still, just want to not be alone. Some are turned on by promiscuous ones, others are turned on by the more prudish.

Relationships and attractions aren't rocket science, it's way WAY more complicated then that. :)

EDIT: Which is why all you manbaw people need to keep looking.


#11



Kitty Sinatra

I'm gonna just go ahead and assume that one of these lousy beatniks stole the gal you're lusting after.


#12

Gusto

Gusto

You're supposed to go for the beatnik, starving accountant!
My ears are burning.


#13

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Why are some girls attracted to bad boys? The same reason that some guys are attracted hot slutty girls.
The bad boys case is testoterone.

Also, Freefall had a neat explanation, while it is hard to be a single mother, there is a advantage in having a kid from a promiscuous guy, the guys "promiscuity genes" might pass on, what means that he is more likely to have multiple with multiple mothers spreading more the original single mother own genes in the process.


#14



TotalFusionOne

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Wait, where are the girls attracted to fat guys?


#15

ElJuski

ElJuski

Wait, I thought people only fell for those types in the movies. I've never seen that in real life.

I have to start writing poems about girls now.


#16

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet



#17



GeneralOrder24

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Wait, where are the girls attracted to fat guys?
Of course! Everybody has different tastes.


#18

MindDetective

MindDetective

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Wait, where are the girls attracted to fat guys?
Of course! Everybody has different tastes.[/QUOTE]

Ah, but SOME people have the same tastes!:boink:


#19



TotalFusionOne

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Wait, where are the girls attracted to fat guys?
Of course! Everybody has different tastes.[/QUOTE]

nonono! WHERE are they?


#20



Chibibar

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Wait, where are the girls attracted to fat guys?
Of course! Everybody has different tastes.[/QUOTE]

nonono! WHERE are they?[/QUOTE]

They are around, but since America is "known" to be highest obesity in the world (so the commercial said) you got some competition :(


#21



TotalFusionOne

Per capita we're like third, yo.


#22

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

I'm gonna just go ahead and assume that one of these lousy beatniks stole the gal you're lusting after.
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.

Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.


#23

ThatGrinningIdiot!

ThatGrinningIdiot!

I'm gonna just go ahead and assume that one of these lousy beatniks stole the gal you're lusting after.
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.

Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.[/QUOTE]

You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.


#24

Troll

Troll

I'm gonna just go ahead and assume that one of these lousy beatniks stole the gal you're lusting after.
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.

Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.[/QUOTE]

You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.[/QUOTE]

:rofl:


#25



Chibibar

I'm gonna just go ahead and assume that one of these lousy beatniks stole the gal you're lusting after.
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.

Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.[/QUOTE]

You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.[/QUOTE]

Gamers can be beatnik :)

Second Life actually have quite a bit of artist (at least my friend at Lindin's lab tells me) cause of all the art and stuff in there.


#26



GeneralOrder24

Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Wait, where are the girls attracted to fat guys?
Of course! Everybody has different tastes.[/quote]

Ah, but SOME people have the same tastes!:boink:[/QUOTE]

Right, but sets of taste are like snowflakes, you may find two people with uncannily similar tastes, but never two with identical!


#27

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.
Just give me an easel and a Costco-sized bag of Starburst. The stuff I could regurgitate would beat the pants off any Emo beatnik's work.


#28

Troll

Troll

You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.
Just give me an easel and a Costco-sized bag of Starburst. The stuff I could regurgitate would beat the pants off any Emo beatnik's work.[/QUOTE]

Now, you just know some jackass with too much money would probably pay for that. I say do it.


#29

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Now, you just know some jackass with too much money would probably pay for that. I say do it.
Thanks, that totally made my night. I could probably put a "the making of" video on Youtube and get 100,000 views within 24 hours. Then I could be Internet Rich!

And when you mentioned the jackass with too much money who would pay for it, I thought of this guy.

One art, please!


#30



SeraRelm

I have nothing constructive to add to this conversation!


Oh wait, I do. Various people are attracted to various things, you just tend to single out the odd ones.


#31

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

*sigh*

You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
Sure you can, don't bother with guys at all. ;)


#32

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Sadly, I'm a non-starving artist... but I'm not successful either. I'm not a stereotype, how will somebody ever love me?!


#33

Timmus

Timmus

But seriously guys why do all the girls go for the guys who aren't me.

Don't they know they don't know whats good for them but I do?


#34



Iaculus

*sigh*

You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
Sure you can, don't bother with guys at all. ;)[/QUOTE]

There are no female beatnik starving artists?


#35

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

*sigh*

You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
Sure you can, don't bother with guys at all. ;)[/QUOTE]

There are no female beatnik starving artists?[/QUOTE]

Not starving. They're dating successful accountants.


#36

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Sadly, I'm a non-starving artist... but I'm not successful either. I'm not a stereotype, how will somebody ever love me?!
Alrighty, you need some makeup. Let's see here... turn your head for me, please. You need a clammy, pale complexion so you look a heroine junkie who never sees daylight... some gray and green blemishes on your forearm so it looks like you have sepsis from shared needles... some fake razor blade scars on your wrists and voila! You're now a beatnik starving artist!

Now go hang out in a community college's quad and bitch about how rainbows, sunsets, and puppies make you depressed because you're hurting inside. You'll have a girlfriend by the end of the day. :)


#37



Kitty Sinatra

Man, rainbows are horribly depressing. It's like the sun trying to break through a suffocating rain. Plus, that damn leprechaun killed my daughter.


#38

@Li3n

@Li3n

Plus, that damn leprechaun killed my daughter.
She shouldn't have tried to steal me pot'o'gold...


#39



chakz

You're supposed to go for the beatnik, starving accountant!
Thank you for this mental image.

Personally I think it's a bad idea go for the girls that go for beatnik starving artists types.


...

"I only do drugs to help me properly communicate my dark inner soul through my financial calculations."

"Why doesn't anyone understand the inner darkness of my financial advice?"


#40

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

You're supposed to go for the beatnik, starving accountant!
Thank you for this mental image.

Personally I think it's a bad idea go for the girls that go for beatnik starving artists types.


...

"I only do drugs to help me properly communicate my dark inner soul through my financial calculations."

"Why doesn't anyone understand the inner darkness of my financial advice?"[/QUOTE]

*snap* *snap*


#41

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Sadly, I'm a non-starving artist... but I'm not successful either. I'm not a stereotype, how will somebody ever love me?!
Alrighty, you need some makeup. Let's see here... turn your head for me, please. You need a clammy, pale complexion so you look a heroine junkie who never sees daylight... some gray and green blemishes on your forearm so it looks like you have sepsis from shared needles... some fake razor blade scars on your wrists and voila! You're now a beatnik starving artist!

Now go hang out in a community college's quad and bitch about how rainbows, sunsets, and puppies make you depressed because you're hurting inside. You'll have a girlfriend by the end of the day. :)[/QUOTE]

Tomorrow, my new life as an overweight starving beatnik artist will begin!


#42



makare

What attracts people is beyond me. I actually understand the women who like the starving artist character more than those attracted to the athletic jock guy with the emotional/intellectual depth of a dixie cup.


#43

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

The girls who are attracted to athletic jocks are just interested in looks, as well as the status that comes with dating an athlete (at least in high school). Plus there's always the highly unlikely but possible chance that the jock will land a $100 million contract with a major league team.

But the emo starving artists... they have absolutely nothing going for them. No looks, no smarts, no talent, no motivation to improve themselves, and no future. I've also met a few of them and they tend to be assholes. But yeah, I suppose women go for them because of that "fix it" mentality.

People like Silver Jelly are real artists, and they WORK at it. They take classes and lessons, and their art actually looks like something.


#44



Kitty Sinatra

You're talking about your stepfather now, aren't you?


#45

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Nice try, but I don't have a stepdad. My folks are still married.


#46

Chippy

Chippy

lol


#47



Kitty Sinatra

Then I'm lost. What the smurf was the catalyst for this thread? I mean, it's like it just came out of left field. I'm really just curious why you posted it.

Did one of these guys draw you taking a shower? :p


#48

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

he could eat a big bag of starburst and vomit a better nude portrait onto a canvas


#49

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

*sniff* He said I could be his light and inspiration! It would have been so perfect! So I let him draw me and he sent it to a porn site. Then he left me because I didn't understand his angst enough. I was such a sucker for my heart!

*dives into gallon of ice cream*

Haha, I got the idea for this thread after watching Forgetting Sarah Marshall (awesome movie, btw). It reminded me of all the times I'd seen otherwise rational, intelligent girls completely fall for the pain-filled, talentless artistic type.


#50

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I could eat a bag of starburst and vomit a better thread than this


#51

Gusto

Gusto

I'm gonna do it.

I'm gonna combine this forum's two ongonig artistic memes.

I'm gonna eat a big bag of Starburst and vomit a painting of a Godzilla breathing penises.


#52

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

I'd actually like to see what such a painting would look like. But you'd need green. Are there green Starbursts?


#53

Terrik

Terrik

Better than a Penis breathing Godzillas


#54

Chippy

Chippy

Better than a Penis breathing Godzillas
I'm not so sure about that.


#55

Gusto

Gusto

Absolutely.

And why does my Godzilla have to be green?

You don't understand what Real Art(tm) is!


#56

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

but if it's not green, is it still godzilla?


#57

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Wait, Aldous Snow wasn't an "emo", he was a vapid rock star/celebrity.


#58

Gusto

Gusto

Wait, Aldous Snow wasn't an "emo", he was a vapid rock star/celebrity.
And stole every goddamned scene he was in. :rofl:


#59

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Okay fine, I'll admit I was generalizing a wee bit. That thing about the "fix it" syndrome was in response to somebody else's post earlier in this thread.

I also know from personal experience that vomiting Skittles can produce some very vibrant colors as well.


#60

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Wait, Aldous Snow wasn't an \"emo\", he was a vapid rock star/celebrity.
And stole every goddamned scene he was in. :rofl:[/QUOTE]

I hope the movie about just him coming out doesn't wear the character too thin.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1226229/


#61

Gusto

Gusto

Wait, Aldous Snow wasn't an \"emo\", he was a vapid rock star/celebrity.
And stole every goddamned scene he was in. :rofl:[/QUOTE]

I hope the movie about just him coming out doesn't wear the character too thin.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1226229/[/QUOTE]

WAT


#62

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

A feature length movie focusing on a supporting character? This cannot end well.


#63

Bubble181

Bubble181

:rofl:

I wish I wasn't too lazy right now to go looking for the "I love this thread so much" gif. Just imagine I posted it.


#64

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I'm a starving artist, and DEFINITELY incompetent. And I can tell you I have NOT encountered this.

I don't think its the starving incompetent artist thing that women are attracted to so much as the unkempt beard. Women love them some grizzly man beards.

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I'd actually like to see what such a painting would look like. But you'd need green. Are there green Starbursts?
You could mix yellow and blue.


#65

Bubble181

Bubble181

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P


#66

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.


#67

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.[/QUOTE]

You're thinking of vegetarians.


#68

Bubble181

Bubble181

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.[/QUOTE]

You're thinking of vegetarians.[/QUOTE]

Nah, freemasons. Vegetarians have X-ray vision.


#69

Gusto

Gusto

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.[/QUOTE]

It's because of their nigh-endless supplies of Starburst.


#70

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

I'm a starving artist, and DEFINITELY incompetent. And I can tell you I have NOT encountered this.
That's because you don't look like the love-child of Nosferatu and Smeagol.


#71

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.[/QUOTE]

It's because of their nigh-endless supplies of Starburst.[/QUOTE]

vomit is known as artist rocket fuel


#72

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I once saw a vegan throw a nickel clear through a wall


#73

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.[/QUOTE]

You're thinking of vegetarians.[/QUOTE]

Nah, freemasons. Vegetarians have X-ray vision.[/QUOTE]

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081016090425AAdFWf7
Can someone tell me some facts about vegetarians?
Like how many there are currently or how many new ones there are a year.
FACT: All vegetarians can fly. They do not ever show this to anyone because it would cause widespread havoc.
See? Its written on the internet, so you know its true

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Women love them some grizzly man beards.
Untrue. it's the faux-emotional "woe is me" attitude :-P[/QUOTE]

wrong. it's because they can fly.[/QUOTE]

It's because of their nigh-endless supplies of Starburst.[/QUOTE]

vomit is known as artist rocket fuel[/QUOTE]

Only if you go to OCAD or similar school.
That's right, I went there, fine arts students. Take that!


#74

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

but did you get there by vomiting in the direction opposite of where you wanted to go?


#75

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

but did you get there by vomiting in the direction opposite of where you wanted to go?
No, I'm an animation student. When we want rocket fuel we just pass gas.


#76

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Or we do that.


#77

figmentPez

figmentPez

Baw! Women are always falling for men who are not me!


#78

Vytamindi

Vytamindi

Never was into artists or jocks. Always into the nerdy guys, though.

*thinks about current boyfriend*

HOLY SHIT did I hit the fucking nerd jackpot!!!


#79



chakz

Actually, I read somewhere that Godzilla is supposed to be charcoal gray.


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