Disclaimer: I'm not accusing any of the guys here of being worthless beatniks. I've seen some forumite art and it's actually GOOD.
"I've lost my touch. Can you be my new muse?"
"I have to draw you!"
"I'm in such PAIN! I'm so ANGRY all the time! Only you can relieve this turmoil!"
Why in the world do women fall for these guys? The typical starving artist is an uneducated, scrawny, burned out stoner. Everything about them is angst and self-loathing. Add a laundry list of authority issues to that and you've got the recipe for a total loser.
I won't profess to being an artist, but I know art. And nothing they produce is worthy of being called art. Of course I realize tastes vary, but there's an enormous gulf between real art and stuff that can only be described as "Vomit on Canvas." Their poetry isn't much better and usually consists of endless verses about pain, hate, and anger. It makes me depressed just to read it, and I don't mean that in a good way. It doesn't rhyme, it doesn't even have structure. It's basically just "I'm hurting inside! Feel sorry for me."
No, I'm not a philistine. I enjoy art, theater, and poetry. Affinity for such things is the mark of an educated, cultured mind. But the stuff these morons vomit out make Baby Jesus cry. While I understand that some people might prefer Longfellow to Coleridge, or Monet to Han Chinese art, all those things have one thing in common: they're actually art. They're not something you can normally see on a 14-year-old emo's Livejournal.
Seriously, why are women attracted to them? Those "artists" spend so much time in their basement studios that they look like Gollum.
And they look like they shared a lot of needles, so any girl who sleeps with them is completely off the market afterward.
#2
HowDroll
*sigh*
You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
#3
Chippy
lol
#4
IronBrig4
Yeah, but dating a successful accountant can actually be understood. He probably isn't crawling with hepatitis.
#5
MindDetective
You're supposed to go for the beatnik, starving accountant!
#6
Chibibar
IronBrig4: it is the image or "oooo I can change this person" mentality of a woman (or man) but I have encounter some women that want to find a man they can mold (yea they do exist) maybe that is why they go after these people.
Of course there is also the mentality of "seeing a bad boy" that they normally don't see just to see what it is like. This explains that some hot women dating some real a-hole I have encounter. (when I use a-hole I mean these guys are rude, mean, even threaten to lift their hand against these women and yet they stay with them.......... so confusing)
There is a psychological thing on this one. I know that some abused women (not saying above women are abused) have this mentality so..... that is the best answer I can give from what I have experience and seen personally.
#7
Krisken
Lousy Beatniks.
#8
Bowielee
Why are some girls attracted to bad boys? The same reason that some guys are attracted hot slutty girls.
#9
IronBrig4
Yeah well the hot slutty girl is HOT. The starving artist looks like a pale hippie.
Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people. Some are attracted to tall ones, some to skinny. Some are attracted to assholes, some to people with big hearts. Some people just want someone to love, some just want someone to love them, and some, even still, just want to not be alone. Some are turned on by promiscuous ones, others are turned on by the more prudish.
Relationships and attractions aren't rocket science, it's way WAY more complicated then that.
EDIT: Which is why all you manbaw people need to keep looking.
#11
Kitty Sinatra
I'm gonna just go ahead and assume that one of these lousy beatniks stole the gal you're lusting after.
Also, Freefall had a neat explanation, while it is hard to be a single mother, there is a advantage in having a kid from a promiscuous guy, the guys "promiscuity genes" might pass on, what means that he is more likely to have multiple with multiple mothers spreading more the original single mother own genes in the process.
#14
TotalFusionOne
Some people are attracted to free spirits. Some people are attracted to fat people.
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.
Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.
Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.[/QUOTE]
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.
Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.[/QUOTE]
You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.[/QUOTE]
Almost two years ago, I lost a close friend to a lousy beatnik. While I had expressed some romantic interest in her before, it was pretty much gone by the time she met the guy. He fit the description in the OP (the guy was a complete scumbag). He had even picked her up on Second Life. I didn't like him, and neither did anybody else. So the girl pretty much dropped me and all her old friends.
Since I'm starting to date somebody else, that particular issue doesn't have much relevance anymore. But I never cared for those Gollum lookalikes to begin with. I look at their "artwork" and know I can make a better painting if I eat a king-sized bag of Starburst and throw up on the canvas.[/QUOTE]
You, my friend, are a terrible fucking liar.[/QUOTE]
Gamers can be beatnik
Second Life actually have quite a bit of artist (at least my friend at Lindin's lab tells me) cause of all the art and stuff in there.
Thanks, that totally made my night. I could probably put a "the making of" video on Youtube and get 100,000 views within 24 hours. Then I could be Internet Rich!
And when you mentioned the jackass with too much money who would pay for it, I thought of this guy.
One art, please!
#30
SeraRelm
I have nothing constructive to add to this conversation!
Oh wait, I do. Various people are attracted to various things, you just tend to single out the odd ones.
You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
You go for the beatnick starving artist and guys bitch that you're a drug user/dating a hobo/etc. You go for the successful accountant and guys bitch that you're a golddigger. Girls just can't win!
Alrighty, you need some makeup. Let's see here... turn your head for me, please. You need a clammy, pale complexion so you look a heroine junkie who never sees daylight... some gray and green blemishes on your forearm so it looks like you have sepsis from shared needles... some fake razor blade scars on your wrists and voila! You're now a beatnik starving artist!
Now go hang out in a community college's quad and bitch about how rainbows, sunsets, and puppies make you depressed because you're hurting inside. You'll have a girlfriend by the end of the day.
#37
Kitty Sinatra
Man, rainbows are horribly depressing. It's like the sun trying to break through a suffocating rain. Plus, that damn leprechaun killed my daughter.
Alrighty, you need some makeup. Let's see here... turn your head for me, please. You need a clammy, pale complexion so you look a heroine junkie who never sees daylight... some gray and green blemishes on your forearm so it looks like you have sepsis from shared needles... some fake razor blade scars on your wrists and voila! You're now a beatnik starving artist!
Now go hang out in a community college's quad and bitch about how rainbows, sunsets, and puppies make you depressed because you're hurting inside. You'll have a girlfriend by the end of the day. [/QUOTE]
Tomorrow, my new life as an overweight starving beatnik artist will begin!
#42
makare
What attracts people is beyond me. I actually understand the women who like the starving artist character more than those attracted to the athletic jock guy with the emotional/intellectual depth of a dixie cup.
#43
IronBrig4
The girls who are attracted to athletic jocks are just interested in looks, as well as the status that comes with dating an athlete (at least in high school). Plus there's always the highly unlikely but possible chance that the jock will land a $100 million contract with a major league team.
But the emo starving artists... they have absolutely nothing going for them. No looks, no smarts, no talent, no motivation to improve themselves, and no future. I've also met a few of them and they tend to be assholes. But yeah, I suppose women go for them because of that "fix it" mentality.
People like Silver Jelly are real artists, and they WORK at it. They take classes and lessons, and their art actually looks like something.
#44
Kitty Sinatra
You're talking about your stepfather now, aren't you?
#45
IronBrig4
Nice try, but I don't have a stepdad. My folks are still married.
#46
Chippy
lol
#47
Kitty Sinatra
Then I'm lost. What the smurf was the catalyst for this thread? I mean, it's like it just came out of left field. I'm really just curious why you posted it.
Did one of these guys draw you taking a shower?
#48
Allen, who is Quiet
he could eat a big bag of starburst and vomit a better nude portrait onto a canvas
#49
IronBrig4
*sniff* He said I could be his light and inspiration! It would have been so perfect! So I let him draw me and he sent it to a porn site. Then he left me because I didn't understand his angst enough. I was such a sucker for my heart!
*dives into gallon of ice cream*
Haha, I got the idea for this thread after watching Forgetting Sarah Marshall (awesome movie, btw). It reminded me of all the times I'd seen otherwise rational, intelligent girls completely fall for the pain-filled, talentless artistic type.
#50
The Lovely Boehner
I could eat a bag of starburst and vomit a better thread than this
#51
Gusto
I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna combine this forum's two ongonig artistic memes.
I'm gonna eat a big bag of Starburst and vomit a painting of a Godzilla breathing penises.
#52
IronBrig4
I'd actually like to see what such a painting would look like. But you'd need green. Are there green Starbursts?
Okay fine, I'll admit I was generalizing a wee bit. That thing about the "fix it" syndrome was in response to somebody else's post earlier in this thread.
I also know from personal experience that vomiting Skittles can produce some very vibrant colors as well.
A feature length movie focusing on a supporting character? This cannot end well.
#63
Bubble181
I wish I wasn't too lazy right now to go looking for the "I love this thread so much" gif. Just imagine I posted it.
#64
checkeredhat
I'm a starving artist, and DEFINITELY incompetent. And I can tell you I have NOT encountered this.
I don't think its the starving incompetent artist thing that women are attracted to so much as the unkempt beard. Women love them some grizzly man beards.
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