THE HOBBIT
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Movie was incredibly mediocre, sorry. Just watched it this weekend and it was unbearably slow paced. That's not to say there aren't good parts about it: the acting was good, the set design was identical to the originating LOTR trilogy. But damned if they didn't drag things out immensely. Peter Jackson's fondness for excess like King Kong knows no bounds.
Are you really sorry?
How can something be incredibly mediocre? That's kind of an oxymoron.
"incredibly mediocre" can be interpreted as "Amazingly enough, it's mediocre"
Considering the pedigree of talent that went into it, from the composer to the director to the acting, it should have been equal in calibre to the LOTR trilogy. It ain't.
Hey, feel how you want about the movie, but the score was solid. And I say that when I didn't think it would be, coming off of LOTR.
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Interesting. I just saw this this morning: http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2013/01/apply-daughter-dating/
It's an application to date a geek dad's daughter, and in it, there's a question that more or less sums up why I (and apparently the writer of this application) thought the LotR movies were mediocre.
It's an application to date a geek dad's daughter, and in it, there's a question that more or less sums up why I (and apparently the writer of this application) thought the LotR movies were mediocre.
I just watched the Two Towers Extended edition last night... I friggin' love the LOTR trilogy.
Huge praise indeed!
I'm not talking from a personal perspective here for the record. Two Towers is my favorite as well, and I only watch the extended editions.
All that said, I still feel very comfortable saying that from a purely objective point of view that the theatrical cut of Fellowship is the best, tightest movie of all of them. It doesn't mean I like it best. Just that it is easily the strongest film in terms of story, characters, pacing and editing.
All that said, I still feel very comfortable saying that from a purely objective point of view that the theatrical cut of Fellowship is the best, tightest movie of all of them. It doesn't mean I like it best. Just that it is easily the strongest film in terms of story, characters, pacing and editing.
The EE for Two Towers has necessary scenes that make it pointless to watch the theatrical cut. That said, it also has unnecessary bits of dialogue that rehash stuff already gone over elsewhere in the movie, or just doesn't need to be said at all. It's not perfect, but I can't watch Two Towers without the Faramir flashback. I own all the theatricals and EEs except for the theatrical to this one.
ROTK's extended stuff never felt like they put in what used to be deleted scenes, but instead gives the movie as it's meant to be.
ROTK's extended stuff never felt like they put in what used to be deleted scenes, but instead gives the movie as it's meant to be.
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One other thing I didn't like about The Hobbit: Saruman. He's superbly powerful at this point in the story, and none of the White Council suspect him of anything. In the movie, though, they make him kind of a weenie, and it seems like Galadriel and Gandalf already suspect him, since they talk around him.
I got a different impression of Sauruman. He was talking down to Gandalf, and simply didn't believe that Gandalf would understand trouble if he saw it, so discounts his report. Galadriel and Gandalf have their little meeting to avoid making Saruman angry due to his pride. I don't know that they suspect anything, but it's clear he is not interested in the warning signs.
I can agree with that with one exception: they do the whole "ghosts charge from behind and through Aragon twice. It worked great in the theatrical cut because he was charging, which the enemy was almost laughing at...and then their expressions change on a dime when the ghosts shift into view.
The only redeeming bit of the other scene was seeing Peter Jackson get shot with an arrow and the whole Gimli shifting Legolas' shot.
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Oh man, I loved that bit. Peter Jackson really hammed up the death rattle XD
I have to agree with so much being cut from TT that the extended version is really the best version out there. Faramir and Aeowin's arcs being the most notable to be cut to shreds for the theatrical release. Unlike the Fellowship, where most of the EE stuff is all the boring ass shit in the shire.
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