The Zoe Quinn sex-for-reviews scandal
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What issues are those?
GasBandit
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Don't forget a reddit post.
Apparently 4chan is getting involved now, basically because they've been accused of doing stuff by the Quinn camp. Their first move? Raise 5k for people trying to get female developers work.
Also, apparently someone broke into her drop box and found something incriminating? I got a re-tweeting mentioning that it happened.
Also, apparently someone broke into her drop box and found something incriminating? I got a re-tweeting mentioning that it happened.
oh no I fell into jay's trap. too bad being called a penis isn't an inherent insult because, oh yeah, the patriarchy.
GasBandit
Staff member
Oh no not the
Putting aside the "bitter ex" provided proof, there's also the person she doxxed, who was in charge of the women in gaming project she torpedoed, the video that did get taken down by a copyright claim from her, and the fake attack stuff is pretty well self-evident for the most part and corroborated where it isn't.
Or, conversely, forget about 23,000 of them.
Oh cool, 4chan is on the job.
http://levelsave.com/phil-fish-polytron-doxxed-phil-fish-quits-gaming-sells-fez-polytron/
Awesome, thanks guys.
http://levelsave.com/phil-fish-polytron-doxxed-phil-fish-quits-gaming-sells-fez-polytron/
Awesome, thanks guys.
GasBandit
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Good to know honky.
I'm not offended by that since it hasn't been used as a term of oppression or pretty much ever shouted while a mob hung a white man from a tree or lashed him while owning him as property. But it's good to know that you just really wish you could say "negro".
I'm not sure how you're getting that out of honky, after all it's not equivalent to negro, since there's no hundred year history of it has a term of oppression.
In the United States. Go tell white folks in Zimbabwe.
Seriously Charlie, this is an international board. I have family members (ok, in-laws) whose properties were seized, who were deported and tortured for being white. Stop being ethnocentric and only championing what you perceive to be the poor weak sorry lot in need of protection. Either it's all wrong and evil, and you should judge honky and penis just as much as negro and vagina, or you're just championing because you think these groups can't defend themselves, and you feel the need to hide your own insecurities by Championing their Cause. Yes, women and colored people still have a way to go until we can say they're being treated fairly in the USA. Yes, we need to watch out for discrimination and we need to enable them to defend themselves and change some aspects of society. No, you don't get to choose which discrimination or race-based insult is better or worse (except in circumstances).
hooooooooooooooooly shit this post
Necronic
Staff member
So aside from outing Phil Fish as a cock-goblin (which we already knew), this basically resulted in getting out the torches and pitchforks against someone whose only mark of notoriety is whats between her legs on baseless accusations.
gg gamers, we knew you had it in you to lower the bar once more.
gg gamers, we knew you had it in you to lower the bar once more.
I agree, any group that is predominantly white men is gonna usually be awful.
GasBandit
Staff member
This again? Ok, here we go, one more time.
You guys keep using this "baseless word."
I know there's a difference between a relatively small group in a small area being subjected to torture/discrimination/etc and black American history (and Arabian and Mediterranean for completeness sake - the majority of slavers weren't white, historically speaking)
I mostly made my post to point out your hypocrisy. You are a hypocrite of the worst order. I honestly and seriously believe you feel a need for white knighting because of issues pertaining to yourself, not to those you want to protect or help. You are very often on the side of good/right, I honestly agree with you more often than I disagree. But you're also a representation of much of what is going wrong on the left side of the political spectrum these days. In some ways, you remind me of the socialists in Belgium, who've fought for decades against catholic schools, and still do, and believe they should be abolished because of religion interfering with our youngsters' minds...But also supporting the opening of Muslim schools because "they have a right to live and explore their heritage". It's hypocritical, it's cultural relativism gone too far and transformed into self-loathing and self-denial.[DOUBLEPOST=1408721778,1408721635][/DOUBLEPOST]
Find/replace "white" with "black" and you'd be protesting and calling the poster racist. Replace "white men" with "women" and you"d call it sexist and stereotypical. Yes, white men are still in power in large parts of the world. Yes, this means we sometimes have to be more careful. No, this doesn't mean it's "ok" to be racist towards us. As long as you can't get that through your skull, you're not fighting for equality, but for oppression in the other direction, and you're as much a part of the problem as those you're fighting.
Hey now, some D&D groups I've been to are full of incredibly nice people.
You keep quoting this, but the only thing I've seen reference this is the video which just shows a reddit post. There's nothing else.
One of the other Polytron guys disagrees.
http://i.imgur.com/nIXi1Ss.png
Adam Sessler was apparently in a bar with Zoe Quinn watching people attempt to gain access to her stuff over and over again.
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/502633907817570306
GasBandit
Staff member
On August 19th, The Fine Young Capitalists released a soundcloud recording as their explanation as what to what was going on and why they were doxxed.
Code:
https://soundcloud.com/super-admin/tfyc-confessionhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/quinnspiracy
its so great that after 6000 recorded years of everyone being a shithead you still have the faith in humanity to see this as the behaviour of a specific subset of people. never lose that.
anyway, why the FUCK is this a thing? there are bigger problems to deal with in the gaming journalism scene than an amateur game developer sleeping around. as far as i know, all the big institutions are still basically taking handouts to review major titles on a 8-10/10 scoring system. that involves a shit ton more money, is a larger breach of ethics, and is far more detrimental to gaming as a hobby... and yet this zoe quinn thing is somehow the biggest shitstorm on the internet? wtf?
and where exactly is the proof that she slept around? or that she benefited from this alleged act? isnt the whole thing based on one obviously biased dude's blog post?
Guys, don't let Charlie know that pirates used to raid British villages to take whites prisoner and sell them as slaves to North Africans..
Going for drinks with another guy in the video game media eh?
GasBandit
Staff member
Because the parties involved were supposed to be the "we're not those corrupt guys" guys. It'd be like catching the NAACP doing human trafficking.
The proof she slept around was mostly on the Ex's blogpost, yes, but was corroborated by tweets from the wives/gfs of the "five guys." That she has benefited is simply a matter of observation - her "game" failed approval for Steam Greenlight until she manufactured an attack on herself, ginning up community "support" to push Depression Quest through, she's parlayed her limelight and "credibility" as a "game developer" to network more in the industry and increase her visibility in a great big cyclone of "I'm a victim, support me" leveraged to torpedo competition/critics and translated almost directly into pateron dollars. Right now she's pulling down $2300/mo, before taxes. Not exactly the high-roller bracket, but more than Depression Quest certainly merits.
Not anymore anyway. He apparently has a consulting company for game developers, but that really doesn't say anything about he DOES. Regardless, he's still pretty buddy buddy with folks in the industry.